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Of course they are scriptures.

May 22 2017 at 8:51 AM
Michael  (Login tong2012)


Response to How about Deut. 24:16 and Ezek. 18:20? Aren't these scriptures too?

 

Isaiah 53 is a prophecy spoken of Christ, and clearly spoke of him as to bear our iniquities, as an offering. And this goes well with the clear testimony about Jesus, as being the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.

While Deut. 24:16 and Ezek. 18:20 which are scriptures as well, they are laws given to Israel. They are not prophecies, nor are a shadow or type, of the death of Christ on the cross.

You speak of the law in Deut. 24:16 and Ezek. 18:20, being fulfilled by Christ. That is far from even being applicable to the death of Christ. These laws says that "The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.", and that "Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor shall children be put to death for their fathers, that a person shall be put to death for his own sin".

The bottom line of these laws is that a person shall be put to death for his own sin. You sinned, I sinned. According to these laws, we, individually, will be put to death, for our own sin. That our fathers shall not bear the guilt of our sins, nor they be put to death in our stead. Jesus is far from fulfilling these laws. He can't. Firstly, Jesus is not our father nor he is our son. And even if he is, these laws do not allow him to die for us.

Now, I understand that you make the church and Christ into an imaginary man, Christ being the head part and the church being the body part. But be that as it may, the man that they become is not wholly Christ, but is him and the church. So, this imaginary man could not be Christ, as you want it to be.

And finally, no scriptures prophesy of this nor there is a testimony in the NT about this.

 
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  1. "According to the Scriptures" means "In compliance with the Scriptures.." - INCquisitor on May 23, 2017, 5:54 PM
    1. Re: "According to the Scriptures" means "In compliance with the Scriptures.." - Michael on May 26, 2017, 8:32 AM
      1. Re: "According to the Scriptures" means "In compliance with the Scriptures.." - INCquisitor on May 26, 2017, 4:55 PM
        1. A new Christ? - Michael on May 27, 2017, 2:43 AM
          1. Re: A new Christ? - INCquisitor on May 27, 2017, 4:56 PM
            1. Re: A new Christ? - Michael on May 27, 2017, 7:37 PM
              1. Re: A new Christ? - INCquisitor on May 28, 2017, 4:22 PM
                1. Re: A new Christ? - Michael on May 30, 2017, 4:56 AM
                  1. Re: A new Christ? - INCquisitor on May 31, 2017, 7:48 PM
                    1. Re: A new Christ? - Michael on Jun 1, 2017, 1:21 AM
                      1. Re: A new Christ? - INCquisitor on Jun 3, 2017, 6:35 AM
                      2. Re: A new Christ? - Michael on Jun 3, 2017, 9:44 AM
                      3. Re: A new Christ? - INCquisitor on Jun 3, 2017, 8:04 PM
                      4. Re: A new Christ? - Michael on Jun 7, 2017, 7:21 AM
                      5. Re: A new Christ? - INCquisitor on Jun 11, 2017, 7:00 AM
     
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