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  1. How to find the true Church... View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 16, 5:42 AM
    1. Acts 20:28 the church of Christ - ETE on Sep 19, 8:11 AM
    2. Roma 16:16 ... iglesia ni Cristo - ETE on Sep 19, 8:13 AM
    3. ETE, wasn't your church "Iglesia ni Cristo" founded by Felix Manalo on - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 19, 8:29 AM
    4. Did the church that Christ built apostatize or not? - Wayne on Sep 20, 11:16 PM
    5. The Church founded by Jesus cannot apostatize. Apostasy is contrary to the his promises. - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 21, 1:56 AM
      1. A Church that embraces demonic instructions certainly is an apostate church - Wayne on Sep 21, 3:08 PM
        1. Hey Louie!! eeerrrr Bruce Wayne!! - Father Ahihi Donovan, SJ, DTh, DMin, DD, DBS on Sep 21, 5:53 PM
    6. The RCC is a corrupted false man made cult - Jason on Sep 21, 3:52 PM
      1. No God's church is perfect, the RCC has more errors than others, but - Tomas on Oct 12, 2:42 PM
    7. So Jason and Wayne don't believe these promises of Jesus? - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 21, 6:08 PM
     
  2. The bible does not suggest nor imply that God had an eternal body. View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Aug 21, 1:35 AM
    1. Oh, yes it does. By the word LIVING, as LIFE REQUIRES A BODY. No body, no life, no living - Ed Chapman on Aug 21, 8:23 AM
      1. Are angels dead? Are evil spirits revived from death when - Tomas on Aug 24, 12:45 PM
        1. ANGELS "EXIST". They cannot live without a body. - Ed Chapman on Aug 24, 12:49 PM
          1. They don't exist as a corpse, they are alive. n/t - Tomas on Aug 24, 12:52 PM
            1. They don't have a corpse to begin with. They aren't alive. They exist. Difference. - Ed Chapman on Aug 24, 2:01 PM
              1. If they can talk and think, they are alive. n/t - Tomas on Aug 25, 9:15 PM
                1. Not without a body.... - Ed Chapman on Aug 25, 9:20 PM
                  1. Dead people can talk and think? No way. - Tomas on Aug 31, 2:52 PM
                    1. YES THEY CAN...YOU JUST CAN'T HEAR THEM. - Ed Chapman on Aug 31, 2:54 PM
                      1. Nobody can hear them, not even the angels or God, - Tomas on Sep 1, 10:55 PM
                      2. NO, Tomas, only the LIVING cannot hear them. - Ed Chapman on Sep 1, 11:01 PM
                      3. The Bible never says only the living can't hear them. - Tomas on Sep 14, 10:18 AM
                      4. YES IT DOES...Examples: - Ed Chapman on Sep 26, 12:23 PM
                      5. They were afraid, because they thought they saw some angel, - Tomas on Oct 12, 2:35 PM
    2. Mr. Chapman, nobody teaches that Spirit requires a body. Spirit is not storm or hurricane. - Dean O'Gowan on Aug 23, 6:08 AM
      1. Spirit is like storm or hurricane. It has no distinctive body. It moves - Dean O'Gowan on Aug 23, 6:09 AM
        1. THAT IS THE HOLY SPIRIT, DEAN...AND IT DOES LIVE IN BODIES...THE BODY OF CHRIST. - Ed Chapman on Aug 23, 7:12 PM
      2. JAMES 2:26...FOR AS THE BODY WITHOUT THE SPIRIT IS DEAD... - Ed Chapman on Aug 23, 7:14 PM
     
  3. The Bibles Buried Secrets Did God Have a Wife View Thread - kulafu on Sep 30, 9:35 PM
    1. Re: The Bibles Buried Secrets Did God Have a Wife - Karlos on Sep 30, 10:47 PM
    2. If Jesus had a wife, then it would be part of Sacred Tradition. - Dean O'Gowan on Oct 4, 7:04 AM
      1. Tradition is no longer sacred after 1 Cor. 4:6 was written. - Tomas on Oct 12, 2:20 PM
     
  4. "Did Jesus Exist?" View Thread - kulafu on Aug 17, 11:33 PM
    1. He should be, Kulafu. Why, he was even seen in India? - Kumag si Kulafu on Aug 18, 12:45 AM
      1. Isa is the Arabic word for Jesus, I doubt it is also Tibetan. - Tomas on Aug 24, 1:57 PM
        1. Since you believe that Isa is Arabic for Jesus, then... - Ed Chapman on Aug 24, 2:08 PM
          1. That is a funny argument. - Tomas on Aug 24, 2:25 PM
            1. Jesus is salvation. That is why Emanuel was not his name. - Ed Chapman on Aug 24, 2:54 PM
              1. a word unproven is just a word... - bornagain2 on Aug 25, 8:12 PM
                1. A proven word ignored is ignorance of the word - Ed Chapman on Aug 25, 8:17 PM
              2. Ed, Emanuel was another of his names. - Tomas on Aug 25, 8:37 PM
                1. No...THE DEFINITION of Emanuel is WHO JESUS IS. - Ed Chapman on Aug 25, 8:40 PM
                  1. Is. 7:14 says "and shall call his NAME Immanuel". - Tomas on Aug 25, 8:44 PM
                    1. But it wasn't, now was it? His name was JESUS...showing that... - Ed Chapman on Aug 25, 8:51 PM
                      1. So Jesus had more than one name. - Tomas on Aug 25, 9:04 PM
                      2. Yes...Jesus is Yahweh!!!! - Ed Chapman on Aug 25, 9:07 PM
                      3. There is no verse saying that Jesus is Yahweh. - Tomas on Aug 25, 9:13 PM
                      4. And the Bible states that Jesus is the Father. - Ed Chapman on Aug 25, 9:19 PM
                      5. AND jESUS is 50% God and 50% man, right, Edchap?? - bornagain2 on Aug 27, 8:47 PM
                      6. LOGIC....LOGIC, NOW....SAYS, YES. SON OF GOD = FIRST HALF...SON OF MAN = OTHER HALF. - Ed Chapman on Aug 27, 10:59 PM
                      7. did Jesus said about percentage of His Divine Nature & being human,NO forget that % - johnmatt on Sep 30, 1:36 AM
                      8. Ed, the Bible never says Jesus is the Father. - Tomas on Aug 31, 2:31 PM
                      9. This is the same old rehashed argument: - Ed Chapman on Aug 31, 2:36 PM
                      10. Mr. Chapman's logic: half of God is a monster, and half a man is gay. - Dean O'Gowan on Aug 28, 1:13 AM
                      11. A THREE HEADED GOD IS LIKE A BAD JAPANESE MONSTER MOVIE - Ed Chapman on Aug 28, 1:17 AM
                      12. BTW, where did you see "faith alone"? Not in the bible. - Dean O'Gowan on Aug 28, 1:19 AM
                      13. JAMES 2:24 IS NOT DISCUSSING SALVATION. - Ed Chapman on Aug 28, 1:30 AM
                      14. James wrote that faith without works is dead. - Tomas on Aug 31, 2:18 PM
                      15. James is NOT discussing salvation. - Ed Chapman on Aug 31, 2:30 PM
                      16. 2:24 says 'justified', that means saved. - Tomas on Aug 31, 2:40 PM
                      17. No, it does NOT. - Ed Chapman on Aug 31, 2:53 PM
                      18. Nobody is justified who is not saved, and nobody is saved - Tomas on Sep 1, 10:58 PM
                      19. James Chapter 2 has nothing to do with Salvation...PERIOD. - Ed Chapman on Sep 1, 11:02 PM
                      20. James 2 says faith without works is dead, so that means - Tomas on Sep 14, 10:16 AM
                      21. WRONG ANSWER: - Ed Chapman on Sep 26, 12:09 PM
                      22. The works are fruits of your repentance, and without repentance - Tomas on Oct 12, 2:16 PM
                      23. Peter said to them "Do penance and be baptized..." - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 14, 1:15 PM
                      24. NO, NO ONE EVER said anything about penance. - Ed Chapman on Sep 14, 1:44 PM
                      25. Chapman, the sailor man will not accept penance, but will accept repentance. - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 14, 2:13 PM
                      26. Penance does not mean repentance. - Ed Chapman on Sep 14, 2:23 PM
                      27. Who shall we believe? Mr. Chapman, the sailor man or the Church? - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 14, 3:13 PM
                      28. COMMON SENSE STATES TO STUDY WHAT WAS WRITTEN IN GREEK...NOT LATIN. - Ed Chapman on Sep 14, 6:56 PM
                      29. Wrong again. To find the intentions of the players, you must understand their thoughts - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 14, 7:32 PM
                      30. Negative. You disect what was written...not to second quess their thoughts. - Ed Chapman on Sep 14, 7:41 PM
                      31. It's Protestants like Chapman who guess the players intentions and they never agree - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 15, 2:47 AM
                      32. Traditions of Catholics are the same as Traditions of Pharisees. - Ed Chapman on Sep 15, 6:52 AM
                      33. The Church is the people, not an organization based in Rome - Ed Chapman on Sep 15, 6:56 AM
                      34. More nonsense by a sailor. Claiming the church is the people is like saving the U.S. Navy - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 15, 1:37 PM
                      35. Negative. The Bible declares that the Church is the people...not an organization in Rome. - Ed Chapman on Sep 15, 3:26 PM
                      36. Chapman ignores church organization inferred in the bible. - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 16, 5:41 AM
                      37. Not at all...There is organization in the church that I attend - Ed Chapman on Sep 16, 7:08 AM
                      38. Does this church you attend has bishops, priests and deacons like in the bible? - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 16, 10:28 AM
                      39. Since EACH ONE OF US ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST - Ed Chapman on Sep 16, 1:51 PM
                      40. Chapman ignores church organization inferred in the bible. - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 16, 5:41 AM
                      41. No, I don't ignore church organization. I ignore Catholic RE-DEFINITION. - Ed Chapman on Sep 16, 4:26 PM
                      42. Chapman didn't answer the question. We can deduce that he goes to the - Dude O'Gowan on Sep 16, 3:57 PM
                      43. Chapman's Oneness Pentecostal has no connection with the Church founded by Jesus. - Dude O'Gowan on Sep 16, 4:04 PM
                      44. Negative. He did not found a church based on Peter. - Ed Chapman on Sep 16, 4:30 PM
                      45. Protestant scholars agree Peter is the Rock. Chapman is inconsequential. - Dude O'Gowan on Sep 16, 6:21 PM
                      46. No, Dean...You are sorely misinformed. - Ed Chapman on Sep 16, 6:48 PM
                      47. That's like saying 4 out of 5 Dentists recommend DENTINE. - Ed Chapman on Sep 16, 8:11 PM
                      48. ADA does not promote Dentyne. It goes back to who has authority? - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 17, 2:23 AM
                      49. Jesus commissioned ALL DISCIPLES TO GO YE - Ed Chapman on Sep 17, 4:30 AM
                      50. Chapman, humans are basically temple of the Holy Spirit, but not the fulness of the H.S. - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 17, 3:53 PM
                      51. Really, Dean? Ephesians 3:19 disagrees with your Catholic IGNORANCE. - Ed Chapman on Sep 17, 4:27 PM
                      52. What you call my Catholic ignorance is actually brilliant and logical. - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 17, 5:13 PM
                      53. Again, your CATHOLIC IGNORANCE AMAZES ME: - Ed Chapman on Sep 17, 5:34 PM
                      54. some more - Ed Chapman on Sep 17, 6:19 PM
                      55. Chapman is referring to Catholic saints which are exceptional. - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 17, 7:50 PM
                      56. There is no such thing as Catholic Saints, as EACH INDIVIDUAL Christian is a saint. - Ed Chapman on Sep 17, 7:53 PM
                      57. You mean there is no such thing as Protestant saints. There hasn't been one since - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 18, 3:44 AM
                      58. No, there is no such thing as Catholic Saints...because... - Ed Chapman on Sep 18, 3:56 AM
                      59. The INCs called themselves saints and holy here on earth ! - Kumag si Edchap on Sep 18, 9:58 PM
                      60. two INC ministers are Violent Thugs (RenatoNorona, RizalinoOcampo) who CRIMINALLY Assault - Father Ahihi Donovan, SJ, DTh, DMin, DD, DBS on Sep 19, 4:25 AM
                      61. Religions of Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism and Protestantism have no miracles at all. - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 19, 6:25 AM
                      62. Acts 19:13-15 - Ed Chapman on Sep 26, 12:37 PM
                      63. Yet another inconsequential interpretation of a sailor. No different from bible references - Dean O'Gowan on Sep 27, 8:10 AM
                      64. The RCC has twisted doctrines. - cyrus2012 on Oct 4, 9:39 PM
                      65. List of Popes here. Cyrus tell us when your church was founded and who founded it. - Dean O'Gowan on Oct 5, 1:47 AM
                      66. You gave me a list. What proof that they existed? - cyrus2012 on Oct 5, 3:57 AM
     
  5. Jesse Romero Humiliated Jose Ventilacion View Thread - Cult Buster on Oct 8, 10:29 PM
    1. When I clicked on the blog, I got the message - Tomas on Oct 12, 1:32 PM
     
  6. what is death? View Thread - year2027 on Oct 8, 9:01 PM
    1. Re: what is death? - Karlos on Oct 10, 3:07 AM
    2. Re: what is death? - Karlos on Oct 11, 3:51 AM
      1. Karlos how does it not exist? - year2027 on Oct 12, 7:32 AM
        1. Re: Karlos how does it not exist? - Karlos on Oct 12, 8:08 AM
     
  7. Cyrus, research for yourself. Various books on History of the Popes View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Oct 5, 10:52 AM
    1. Dean, have a look at this. - PADRE DAMASO on Oct 6, 3:41 AM
    2. Damaso, the popes are not guaranteed to be free from sins. They are not indefectible. - Dean O'Gowan on Oct 6, 5:18 AM
    3. Who are the popes who diverted from the doctrines of Christ? - cyrus2012 on Oct 8, 6:07 AM
    4. Cyrus, you accuse, so you name the popes who allegedly "diverted from the doctrines of - Dean O'Gowan on Oct 8, 7:22 PM
     
  8. seeing yourself as what you are? View Thread - year2027 on Oct 1, 3:52 PM
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  12. Jesus Christ is God manifested in the flesh - Video View Thread - Jason on Sep 29, 5:29 PM
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