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The Iglesia Ni Cristo (Church of Christ) Doctrines

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  1. Tomas is like Jason. He thinks all that is needed to be saved is to believe in Jesus. View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Jun 22, 2013, 3:56 AM
    1. Tomas believes in Jesus? Maybe Jesus is God, maybe Jesus is not God is believing in Jesus? - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jun 23, 2013, 7:08 PM
      1. I very firmly believe in Jesus, and all the required doctrines - Tomas on Jun 28, 2013, 5:57 PM
        1. No, Sir, you DON'T believe in Jesus. Maybe God, maybe not God, that is having no faith in - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jun 29, 2013, 8:19 AM
          1. I believe in all the required doctrines about Jesus. - Tomas on Jul 5, 2013, 4:55 PM
    2. Dean, I am not like Jason. I believe - Tomas on Jun 28, 2013, 6:09 PM
      1. But you believe you'll be saved without having faith. Jesus. maybe God, maybe not, is - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jun 29, 2013, 8:23 AM
        1. I do believe that faith is required for salvation. - Tomas on Jul 5, 2013, 4:59 PM
      2. Can you fall out of the Grip of God? - Jason on Jul 2, 2013, 9:49 PM
        1. No one can snatch us out of Jesus' hand, but we can leave his hand. - Tomas on Jul 5, 2013, 5:27 PM
          1. No, the verses I quoted prove against this - Jason on Jul 7, 2013, 12:40 PM
            1. Those verses don't prove your theory. - Tomas on Jul 12, 2013, 2:02 PM
    3. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE BIBLEEEEEEEEE SAYS - Jason on Jul 2, 2013, 9:31 PM
    4. Jason, believing is only the beginning of salvation. Jesus also says you must obey his - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 3, 2013, 8:31 AM
      1. The beginning? False man made lies, A PERIOD IS A PERIOD - Jason on Jul 7, 2013, 12:43 PM
      2. Biblical proof that believing is only the beginning of salvation. - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 8, 2013, 3:53 AM
    5. Jason cherry picks 1% of the bible and ignores 99% of the teachings of Jesus. - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 4, 2013, 1:22 AM
      1. "Why do you call Me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say? - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 4, 2013, 4:57 PM
      2. Jesus commands "Confess thy sins one to another." - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 8, 2013, 8:06 AM
      3. Jesus also commands "Take, eat; this is my body. Drink you all of it. This is my blood." - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 11, 2013, 7:06 AM
      4. Jesus also commands "Take, eat; this is my body. Drink you all of it. This is my blood." - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 11, 2013, 7:06 AM
        1. If John 6:53 were to refer to the Lord's Supper, then - Tomas on Jul 12, 2013, 2:15 PM
        2. Tomas, which of these major churches do you belong now? - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 15, 2013, 7:09 PM
          1. Not any of them. I am a non-denominational Christian, - Tomas on Jul 19, 2013, 4:59 PM
          2. Then Tomas, you don't belong to the Church founded by Jesus. - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 20, 2013, 6:53 AM
            1. It is not relevant where the bones of Peter are. - Tomas on Jul 26, 2013, 3:14 PM
          3. Tomas, you are offering useless speculation. You are like the state attorney prosecuting - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 26, 2013, 6:43 PM
            1. I don't oppose the church founded by Jesus. - Tomas on Aug 2, 2013, 3:13 PM
     
  2. Theo Book, the common bible used in this forum is English, whether KJV, NIV or DRV. View Thread - Moderator on Jul 31, 2013, 9:47 AM
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  4. Biblical proofs that the Holy Spirit is God. View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 30, 2013, 4:34 AM
    1. The Presence of the Holy Spirit in the Incarnation, Baptism and Resurrection of Jesus. - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 30, 2013, 4:58 AM
    2. The Holy Spirit has attributes of God. - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 30, 2013, 5:02 AM
      1. You really need to get a grip, and get out of the commentaries - Theo Book on Jul 30, 2013, 1:30 PM
    3. In what commentary do you read your scripture, O'Gowan? - Theo Book on Jul 30, 2013, 1:10 PM
    4. Theo, they are not commentaries. They are biblical proofs that the Holy Spirit is God. - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 30, 2013, 6:57 PM
      1. Further evidence Darwin was right about some men. - Theo Book on Jul 31, 2013, 5:21 AM
     
  5. life and death View Thread - roy Perry on Jul 30, 2013, 7:08 AM
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  7. Tomas, you are wrong. The teachings of the Church founded by Jesus are required doctrine. View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 5, 2013, 9:50 PM
    1. Jesus also requires you to keep the commandments. - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 5, 2013, 10:04 PM
      1. The Ten Commandments were for the Israelites. - Tomas on Jul 12, 2013, 2:29 PM
      2. Tomas, the 10 Commandments is for all humanity and is timeless. - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 21, 2013, 10:06 AM
        1. Are you teaching scripture? or Catholic doctrine? - Theo Book on Jul 25, 2013, 4:43 AM
        2. Dean, Theo Book's response is excellent. So are you ceasing work - Tomas on Jul 26, 2013, 2:26 PM
    2. Tomas and Jason reject the Church Jesus founded to teach and do do-it-yourself salvation. - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 6, 2013, 9:09 AM
      1. I am in the church Jesus founded. - Tomas on Jul 12, 2013, 2:33 PM
      2. No Tomas, you reject the Church Jesus founded and became a Protestant. - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 12, 2013, 7:04 PM
        1. The words of Jesus are very clear "He who believes and is baptized will be saved. - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 12, 2013, 7:49 PM
          1. I believe all the required beliefs of the Bible and God's church. - Tomas on Jul 19, 2013, 5:14 PM
          2. Jesus did not say he who rejects the bible rejects me. He said he who rejects you rejects - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 21, 2013, 9:51 AM
            1. I don't reject the church, I am part of the church. - Tomas on Jul 26, 2013, 2:34 PM
    3. So our saviour is athanasius Christ? - Theo Book on Jul 20, 2013, 6:03 AM
    4. Theo, do you have any education? Did you finish high school? - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 20, 2013, 7:55 AM
      1. Re: Theo, do you have any education? Did you finish high school? - Anonymous on Jul 20, 2013, 9:08 AM
      2. I took you at your words - Theo Book on Jul 20, 2013, 9:12 AM
      3. How do you know Jesus never taught them? - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 20, 2013, 10:01 PM
        1. Paul taught them to hold to traditions already delivered, not newly made up. - Theo Book on Jul 21, 2013, 6:47 AM
        2. Paul taught them to hold to traditions already delivered, not newly made up. - Theo Book on Jul 21, 2013, 6:51 AM
      4. Theo, are you saying Paul is superior to Jesus? Jesus promised the Holy Spirit to guide - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 21, 2013, 9:40 AM
        1. You make a lot of claims for a church that was first to fall away into heresy. - Theo Book on Jul 21, 2013, 4:19 PM
      5. Theo, are you saying the Church Jesus founded fell away into heresy? - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 21, 2013, 7:24 PM
        1. Jesus rose from the gates of Hell, and lives forever.. - Theo Book on Jul 22, 2013, 6:27 AM
      6. So you agree that the Church Jesus founded did not fall away into heresy? - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 22, 2013, 7:59 AM
        1. no I do not. Satan usurped it. - Theo Book on Jul 22, 2013, 3:06 PM
          1. In Mt. 28:20 Jesus told the church he is with us always. - Tomas on Jul 26, 2013, 2:50 PM
      7. So Theo, you don't agree with Jesus. You are saying Jesus is a liar. - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 22, 2013, 7:42 PM
        1. No, I am saying [b]you[/b] are a liar. - Theo Book on Jul 23, 2013, 7:45 AM
      8. Sorry Theo. Jesus did not say "the gates of hell shall not prevail against ME." - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 23, 2013, 2:22 PM
     
  8. BILL THE CAT SAYS HI TO EVERYONE View Thread - Theo Book on Jul 21, 2013, 4:59 AM
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  10. A church, who's top ministers are telling lies, can't be the "only true" church, can it ? View Thread - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jun 20, 2013, 7:27 PM
    1. So Mr. Ventilacion made several errors, that does not mean - Tomas on Jun 21, 2013, 10:52 AM
      1. Tomas, Mr. Ventilacion didn't make a single error. He knew what he was saying, he - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jun 23, 2013, 7:23 PM
        1. So did he admit tampering to you? - Tomas on Jun 28, 2013, 5:54 PM
          1. You didn't understand a word I was saying. Ventilacion quoted the Bible, he quoted - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jun 30, 2013, 9:13 AM
            1. So did he say he is quoting John 10:16 word for word? - Tomas on Jul 5, 2013, 5:30 PM
          2. Also, "Thomas was wrong"..calling the word of God, the Bible, the true expression of an - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jun 30, 2013, 9:23 AM
            1. It is not satanic to believe that the apostles were sometimes wrong - Tomas on Jul 5, 2013, 5:39 PM
        2. Joe Ventilacion said that Thomas was wrong. If he was wrong, Jesus would have rebuked him. - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 1, 2013, 6:52 AM
          1. For the reason, the Iglesias and the Jehovah's Witnesses will not be saved. - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 1, 2013, 9:56 AM
            1. So Ventilacion was wrong, but then nobody is infallible. - Tomas on Jul 12, 2013, 2:43 PM
     
  11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7R5HeHqf-w View Thread - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7R5HeHqf-w on Jul 12, 2013, 5:25 AM
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  13. How authentic is your bible? Here is a clue that your bible may be corrupt. View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Jun 10, 2013, 6:32 AM
    1. So the earliest manuscripts also lacked Mk. 16:9-20. - Tomas on Jun 14, 2013, 12:24 PM
    2. The Latin Vulgate does not have it either. That's sufficient proof - Dean O'Gowan on Jun 14, 2013, 1:03 PM
      1. The Latin Vulgate does have Mark 16:9-20 which I mentioned above. - Tomas on Jun 14, 2013, 1:18 PM
    3. "Before 1599 nearly all Protestant bibles included the Deuterocanonical books... - Dean O'Gowan on Jun 14, 2013, 1:08 PM
      1. So do you think Jeri Nevermind the Amazon reviewer - Tomas on Jun 14, 2013, 1:29 PM
    4. And Protestants differ on the right interpretation of the bible. - Dean O'Gowan on Jun 14, 2013, 1:10 PM
      1. Of course, they are not infallible, nobody on earth is. - Tomas on Jun 14, 2013, 1:31 PM
        1. Only Tomas wants to be infallible, deciding on his own which church has the most false - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jun 16, 2013, 6:31 AM
          1. So I might be wrong on several doctrines, but - Tomas on Jun 21, 2013, 12:09 PM
            1. Those who are more fortunate than you, those who received the understanding from God, do - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jun 21, 2013, 5:31 PM
              1. God revealed the truth to me through the Bible. - Tomas on Jun 28, 2013, 6:41 PM
                1. If God would have revealed the truth to you, you wouldn't be saying "maybe" at all. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jun 29, 2013, 6:59 AM
                  1. God did not reveal to me whether Jesus had brown eyes, - Tomas on Jul 5, 2013, 6:12 PM
              2. What are the required doctrines? What others are not required? - Dean O'Gowan on Jun 28, 2013, 11:08 PM
                1. Of course, Tomas is speculating. Why else would he ever say "maybe"? - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jun 29, 2013, 7:02 AM
                2. Dean, there are only about 14 doctrines required for - Tomas on Jul 5, 2013, 6:26 PM
     
  14. Question for Tomas: If God cannot be tested, why did Peter ask the other Apostles at the View Thread - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jun 6, 2013, 9:48 AM
    1. James 1:13 says God cannot be tempted with evil. - Tomas on Jun 7, 2013, 5:48 PM
      1. You're understanding of the Bible is full of flaws, only little ones, but decisive ones - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jun 8, 2013, 2:42 PM
        1. I know enough German to understand what Luther wrote - Tomas on Jun 14, 2013, 3:47 PM
          1. Tomas, I wish you'd understand German better. There is no need to add "zu tun" when you - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jun 14, 2013, 6:38 PM
            1. So there is no 'to do' in the original Greek either. - Tomas on Jun 21, 2013, 1:16 PM
      2. Jesus was not tempted with evil, Jesus was tempted BY evil! - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jun 21, 2013, 5:14 PM
        1. Whatever, you can argue about prepositions, - Tomas on Jun 28, 2013, 7:00 PM
          1. I am not arguing about prepositions, what is important is the true meaning of a verse. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jun 29, 2013, 7:41 AM
            1. And the true meaning of some verses is just not so clear. - Tomas on Jul 5, 2013, 6:08 PM
     
 
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