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The Iglesia Ni Cristo (Church of Christ) Doctrines

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  1. The Kingdom of GOD is the Catholic Church! There is none other. View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 15, 2013, 1:26 AM
    1. The Kingdom of God will last forever. The Catholic Church is the oldest institution in - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 15, 2013, 1:33 AM
    2. You show a verse with the word INCARNATE. - emmanuel on Apr 15, 2013, 1:48 AM
      1. Then might as well show a verse with the word BIBLE... - Joe_516 on Apr 15, 2013, 3:53 AM
        1. Books is Biblia in Greek and Bible in english. Check the link - emmanuel on Apr 15, 2013, 10:38 AM
      2. Re: You show a verse with the word INCARNATE. - karlos on Apr 15, 2013, 7:47 AM
        1. FYM is the another angel ascending from the east. - emmanuel on Apr 15, 2013, 7:13 PM
          1. Re: FYM is the another angel ascending from the east. - karlos on Apr 16, 2013, 6:59 AM
            1. The name of Jesus was not in the O.T. but we believe He was the one being prophesied. - emmanuel on Apr 17, 2013, 2:02 AM
              1. Re: The name of Jesus was not in the O.T. but we believe He was the one being prophesied. - karlos on Apr 17, 2013, 8:38 AM
      3. Re: You show a verse with the word INCARNATE. - karlos on Apr 15, 2013, 7:50 AM
        1. You found incarnate. Good job. - emmanuel on Apr 15, 2013, 10:46 AM
          1. Re: You found incarnate. Good job. - karlos on Apr 16, 2013, 6:58 AM
            1. FYM was hidden in a pseudonym. The pseudonym is 'another angel'. Rev. 7:2. - emmanuel on Apr 16, 2013, 9:21 PM
              1. Re: FYM was hidden in a pseudonym. The pseudonym is 'another angel'. Rev. 7:2. - karlos on Apr 17, 2013, 8:31 AM
          2. Jesus warned of false prophets like Felix Manalo. - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 17, 2013, 2:25 AM
            1. Reverse psychology by the devil! - Jim on Apr 17, 2013, 5:47 AM
              1. That's a lot of history. - emmanuel on Apr 17, 2013, 6:01 AM
            2. OK let's check the fruits of the INC. - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 17, 2013, 6:39 AM
              1. So what about your fruits? - Jim on Apr 17, 2013, 2:50 PM
              2. Dino, check your local bishops name here! - Jim on Apr 17, 2013, 2:54 PM
     
  2. Miracle cures in the Catholic Church. Are there any in the INC? View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 16, 2013, 1:07 PM
    1. Your miracle was created by the Devil so he can deceive you. And the Devil succeeded. - emmanuel on Apr 16, 2013, 8:05 PM
      1. You will notice folks that Emmanuel has respect for the devil. He capitalizes his name. - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 16, 2013, 8:33 PM
        1. I capitalize it because it is a name. - emmanuel on Apr 16, 2013, 9:19 PM
          1. Devil is not proper name. Even the bible does not capitalize it. You honor the devil. - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 17, 2013, 2:12 AM
            1. Check the link. Devil is another name for Satan, your best friend. - emmanuel on Apr 17, 2013, 2:27 AM
    2. Jesus is also accused of working for the devil. No miracles ever happen for the Iglesias. - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 16, 2013, 8:31 PM
      1. Dino! Don't be so proud of your fake miracles - Jim on Apr 17, 2013, 5:35 AM
     
  3. Glenn Cessor vs. Edward Watson Debate: Rev 7:1-3 View Thread - ewatson - RESERVED THREAD on Nov 18, 2002, 7:44 PM
    1. First short reply (copied) - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 19, 2002, 10:19 AM
      1. Response from eWatson (copied) - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 19, 2002, 10:20 AM
        1. Response from Glenn on Jeremiah 4 (copied) - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 19, 2002, 10:21 AM
          1. Correction Glen, the wind or war in Jeremiah is not about Europe (copied from eWatson) - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 19, 2002, 10:22 AM
            1. I didn't say it was about Europe. The chapter is most certainly about Jerusalem. (copied) - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 19, 2002, 10:23 AM
            2. The above isn't my post - ewatson on Nov 21, 2002, 6:57 AM
              1. sorry - - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 21, 2002, 9:46 AM
        2. Next question (copied from Glenn) - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 19, 2002, 10:25 AM
          1. Numerology based on 2 Pet 3:8 doesn't work - ewatson on Nov 21, 2002, 6:56 AM
            1. "God does not view time using human standards." Get a cup of coffee for this one... - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 21, 2002, 9:22 AM
              1. A note on that reply - - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 21, 2002, 3:43 PM
              2. Sorry, I disagree - ewatson on Nov 21, 2002, 6:40 PM
                1. Nice try, Ed - but don't break out the cubans just yet, for the creations of God are... - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 22, 2002, 11:21 AM
                  1. Fine, have it your way - frames of reference it is - ewatson on Nov 22, 2002, 1:49 PM
                    1. No, Ed, apparently you still didn't get it... - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 22, 2002, 3:24 PM
                      1. Surprise Glenn! I concede - you're correct on the point - ewatson on Nov 22, 2002, 5:21 PM
    2. Concerning your post on 'Michael' and the 'Orthodox Church' (copied) - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 19, 2002, 10:27 AM
      1. True enough - ewatson on Nov 19, 2002, 6:53 PM
        1. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." I agree absolutely! - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 20, 2002, 10:15 AM
          1. Identical response - ewatson on Nov 21, 2002, 7:00 AM
            1. On Isaac Newton and the SDA (no relation to each other, of course) - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 21, 2002, 9:36 AM
        2. And when it comes to your reference to that Orthodox church... - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 20, 2002, 10:47 AM
          1. No worries - I'm patient - ewatson on Nov 21, 2002, 7:17 AM
            1. Ed - please take your time - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 21, 2002, 9:44 AM
    3. Concerning Rev. 8:2 and later... (copied) - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 19, 2002, 10:28 AM
      1. I agree - ewatson on Nov 21, 2002, 7:13 AM
    4. Next statement of belief - on the 'four winds'. (a very long post) - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 26, 2002, 12:44 PM
      1. Rev 7:1's four winds of the earth not in reference to war - ewatson on Nov 26, 2002, 10:54 PM
        1. Concerning those destructive winds... - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 27, 2002, 11:57 AM
          1. Not once out of 186 NT cases of aggelos is used in reference to mortals - ewatson on Nov 27, 2002, 3:18 PM
            1. ...except for the cases you yourself listed (and Rev. 7 in my belief too, of course) - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 29, 2002, 10:54 AM
              1. ...except to messengers - ewatson on Nov 29, 2002, 1:59 PM
                1. Confusion compounded.... - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 29, 2002, 3:03 PM
        2. Second reply on the destructive winds....(an even longer post) - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 27, 2002, 2:58 PM
          1. Impossible for the earth to lose its atmosphere from asteroid impact - ewatson on Nov 28, 2002, 8:21 PM
            1. Okay, I admit exaggeration - but the atmospere would still not be breathable... - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Nov 29, 2002, 1:19 PM
              1. Use a mask! The ppm is like Los Angeles on a bad day - ewatson on Nov 29, 2002, 6:09 PM
                1. Nope. Much worse - here's why. - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Dec 2, 2002, 4:58 PM
                  1. <bump> for a reference for Jasbir. - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Feb 14, 2003, 3:13 PM
                2. But here's a more logical response - - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Dec 2, 2002, 11:13 PM
                  1. Different argument - turning the tables - ewatson on Dec 4, 2002, 7:36 PM
                    1. Re: Different argument - turning the tables - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Dec 5, 2002, 2:56 PM
            2. Ah, now I understand.... - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Dec 7, 2002, 9:15 PM
    5. <bump> so I could find it for Francisco's benefit - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Jan 27, 2003, 6:23 PM
    6. Re: Glenn Cessor vs. Edward Watson Debate: Rev 7:1-3 - deleted on Jul 1, 2004, 11:17 PM
      1. Ed? - Bro. Glenn Cessor on Jul 2, 2004, 11:47 AM
        1. ain't you find this mormon thing silly? - Rocky on Jul 4, 2004, 11:55 PM
          1. Yes, it's silly. This 'deleted' guy just attached himself - Tom on Jul 5, 2004, 6:03 AM
    7. I mauled your INC deacon. Destroyed your stupid angel of the east doctrine. - eWatson on Apr 16, 2013, 1:11 AM
      1. 'Mauled' you mean physical? - emmanuel on Apr 16, 2013, 1:23 AM
     
  4. But I am the pope. Sit down! View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 15, 2013, 7:17 AM
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  6. Emmanuel, do you worship your wife or girlfriend too? View Thread - Ed_Watson on Apr 14, 2013, 11:27 AM
    1. Haven't you adored your wife? - emmanuel on Apr 14, 2013, 12:19 PM
      1. So you worship and adore your wife? - Ed_Watson on Apr 14, 2013, 2:31 PM
        1. So you haven't adored your wife, is that it? - emmanuel on Apr 14, 2013, 7:22 PM
          1. I knew it. You are an imbecile. You cannot answer questions. - Ed_Watson on Apr 14, 2013, 7:31 PM
            1. Ed Watson do you beat up your wife! - Jim on Apr 14, 2013, 8:23 PM
              1. This is a possibility. - emmanuel on Apr 14, 2013, 8:33 PM
                1. I guess so, and lashed out his frustration on us! - Jim on Apr 14, 2013, 8:39 PM
            2. You also didn't answer my question. We're even. - emmanuel on Apr 14, 2013, 8:33 PM
            3. Ed Watson, pretending to be what you are not is hard to conceal. - Jim on Apr 14, 2013, 8:37 PM
              1. You already concluded he hates his wife. lol. - emmanuel on Apr 14, 2013, 9:14 PM
     
  7. a tale of View Thread - year2027 on Apr 12, 2013, 3:45 PM
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  9. Rep. Peter King Compares North Korean Government to ‘Organized Crime Family’ View Thread - Dude O'Gowan on Mar 31, 2013, 10:17 PM
    1. The North Korean organized crime family does not allow freedom of religion. - Tomas on Apr 5, 2013, 4:05 PM
    2. Tomas is wrong again. The Iglesia ni Cristo of Felix Manalo does not support marriage of - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 6, 2013, 3:20 AM
      1. VITW, we are just following what is written in the bible! - Jim on Apr 6, 2013, 8:57 AM
      2. Dean, they have the wrong concept of Church, but they are right - Tomas on Apr 12, 2013, 10:01 AM
      3. It is Catholics who forbids marriage even with co-members. - emmanuel on Apr 12, 2013, 10:49 AM
     
  10. Dean O'Gowan: Do you believe that God chose people to save? View Thread - Michael on Feb 4, 2013, 1:27 PM
    1. If He predestined them, He should have chosen them - Ricky Martan on Feb 4, 2013, 7:33 PM
      1. Hey Rick, do you believe the 5th Angel of Rev 7:1-3 is a Human Being - SWATTY on Feb 6, 2013, 8:48 AM
    2. God does not predestine people to be saved. He gave everyone free will and intellect. - Dean O'Gowan on Feb 4, 2013, 10:46 PM
      1. Do you believe all of the Bible? - Jason on Feb 4, 2013, 11:58 PM
        1. You a Calvinist? - Ed Chapman on Feb 5, 2013, 1:42 AM
      2. The Bible says God does. - Michael on Feb 6, 2013, 11:10 PM
        1. Rom. 2:7 is one of the verses proving you can lose salvation. - Tomas on Feb 8, 2013, 10:30 AM
          1. Rom. 2:7 is not about losing one's salvation. - Michael on Feb 8, 2013, 2:15 PM
            1. You misunderstand John 6:37-39. - Tomas on Feb 15, 2013, 2:12 PM
              1. Re: You misunderstand John 6:37-39. - Michael on Feb 17, 2013, 12:41 AM
                1. Easy. God gave us free will. - Tomas on Feb 22, 2013, 3:52 PM
                  1. In view of the fact that verses John 6:44,65 follow 37-39, - Tomas on Feb 22, 2013, 3:59 PM
                    1. You confused me. - Michael on Feb 23, 2013, 1:07 PM
                      1. It is quite simple. When a person comes to God temporarily, - Tomas on Mar 1, 2013, 10:15 AM
                    2. TOMAS: No such thing as temporarily saved. - Michael on Feb 28, 2013, 9:43 PM
                      1. They too were true believers, but did not belong to us, - Tomas on Mar 1, 2013, 10:19 AM
                    3. SALVATION IS A PROCESS. It can be lost. - thesinner on Mar 1, 2013, 2:18 AM
                      1. Though Salvation is a process, it is sure, for it is God who chose and saves. - Michael on Mar 1, 2013, 4:34 AM
                      2. Thesinner, baptizing infants is futile. - Tomas on Mar 1, 2013, 10:28 AM
                    4. "But he that shall persevere to the end, he shall be saved." - Dean O'Gowan on Mar 1, 2013, 6:23 AM
          2. If you are saying so, then God did not choose who to be saved - Joe_516 on Apr 12, 2013, 5:37 AM
            1. Not necessarily rebellion, some are unsaved due to ignorance. - Tomas on Apr 12, 2013, 8:44 AM
      3. up for Dean - Michael on Feb 12, 2013, 11:58 PM
      4. up for Dean - Michael on Feb 18, 2013, 12:21 PM
      5. Dean O' Gowan can you respond to my reply to your post? - Michael on Feb 26, 2013, 8:55 AM
      6. up for Dean - Michael on Feb 28, 2013, 7:21 PM
    3. Jason, you have Calvinist interpretation of the Bible. It differs with Berean and Catholic - Dean O'Gowan on Feb 5, 2013, 1:38 AM
     
  11. Emmanuel, this is the closest image of Jesus Christ. You worship him as man, which is View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Mar 30, 2013, 7:56 AM
    1. We worship Jesus because it was commanded by God. - emmanuel on Apr 1, 2013, 10:13 AM
    2. Where does God command man to worship man? - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 1, 2013, 3:53 PM
      1. Yes - Jim on Apr 2, 2013, 6:24 PM
    3. Every knee should bow. Does that mean worshipping? - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 2, 2013, 8:19 PM
      1. If bowing was referring to God and Jesus, yes. - emmanuel on Apr 3, 2013, 12:21 PM
    4. So Jim, does you knee bow to the name of Jesus? When and where? - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 3, 2013, 2:15 PM
      1. VITW, did you finish high school? - Jim on Apr 3, 2013, 3:17 PM
      2. VITW is Vancouver Island Travel Watch? What's the relevance of a travel agency? - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 3, 2013, 5:14 PM
        1. Honesty will lead me to where I am heading to. - Jim on Apr 5, 2013, 4:17 PM
    5. Jim, answer the question. Does you knee bow to the name of Jesus? - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 3, 2013, 5:06 PM
      1. Bowing or kneeling is figurative to worship. - emmanuel on Apr 4, 2013, 7:21 AM
    6. So Jim, you never bow your knees before Jesus, do you? - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 5, 2013, 7:13 PM
      1. Of course I do! - Jim on Apr 6, 2013, 9:00 AM
     
  12. Emmanuel, do you or don't you agree with what Felix Manalo says? Yes or no? View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Mar 30, 2013, 7:23 AM
    1. Yes I agree. INC is the prophesied other sheep of Christ. - emmanuel on Apr 1, 2013, 10:12 AM
    2. Emmanuel, did you graduate in high school? - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 1, 2013, 3:54 PM
      1. What's wrong with my answer? - emmanuel on Apr 2, 2013, 9:39 PM
     
 
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