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The Iglesia Ni Cristo (Church of Christ) Doctrines

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  1. Why be Catholic? View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 25, 2013, 3:02 PM
    1. Baptist pastor becomes Catholic. - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 25, 2013, 3:34 PM
      1. Baptists have more doctrines correct than Catholics. - Tomas on Apr 26, 2013, 12:46 PM
     
  2. "Go to hell?" View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 26, 2013, 12:24 PM
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  4. The INC fits the pattern of a cult. View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 17, 2013, 5:56 AM
    1. Jesus' church when it started was the number one cult! - Jim on Apr 17, 2013, 6:06 AM
    2. Based on these descriptions, the Catholic church is a similar Christian cult. - Tomas on Apr 19, 2013, 12:35 PM
      1. Tom, cults are the same. - cyrus2013 on Apr 25, 2013, 8:28 PM
        1. shallow - dirtvader on Apr 26, 2013, 2:28 AM
     
  5. The One True Faith established by Jesus. View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 26, 2013, 2:12 AM
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  7. We should not be like the men who bombed the Boston marathon. View Thread - Tomas on Apr 19, 2013, 2:03 PM
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  9. The difference between a Born Again and a Christian. View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 12, 2013, 2:01 AM
    1. The Iglesia ni Cristo is just one of the thousands of man made churches. - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 12, 2013, 4:45 AM
      1. They were permitted by God to found churches if within - Tomas on Apr 12, 2013, 8:53 AM
    2. Dean, I thought you Catholics believe you were born again when - Tomas on Apr 12, 2013, 8:50 AM
    3. Tomas, you are wrong on two points. Again! - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 12, 2013, 12:49 PM
      1. See, so you acknowledge you are born again after all. - Tomas on Apr 19, 2013, 1:34 PM
    4. The Catholic Church is too rigid? - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 12, 2013, 2:35 PM
     
  10. Jesus is God in his own words. View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 5, 2013, 7:25 PM
    1. God is spirit, Jesus is not. If you will say Jesus is spirit, He might be God. - emmanuel on Apr 5, 2013, 10:51 PM
    2. God is spirit. No question about that. But where does God the Spirit dwell? - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 6, 2013, 3:32 AM
      1. Does it mean all Christians are Gods? - Jim on Apr 6, 2013, 9:14 AM
      2. Wait a minute Jim. Do you admit that the Holy Spirit is God? - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 6, 2013, 4:13 PM
        1. What happened to your first premise now? - Jim on Apr 7, 2013, 5:48 AM
      3. So Jim, if the Holy Spirit according to the INC teaching is NOT God, how can - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 6, 2013, 4:21 PM
        1. Twister, get back back to your own topic, stop curling like a serpent. - Jim on Apr 7, 2013, 5:55 AM
        2. Dinuguan, your confuses yourself already! - Jim on Apr 9, 2013, 9:07 PM
      4. 1 Cor 6:19 Temple of the Holy Spirit. - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 6, 2013, 8:57 PM
        1. Hehe! get back to the topic, we are not talking about the holy spirit yet! - Jim on Apr 7, 2013, 5:59 AM
      5. Jim is stymied. He introduced 1 Cor 3:16, now he wants to back away from it. - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 7, 2013, 6:17 AM
        1. Okay fine let us play with you now if you really want to avoid you first premise! - Jim on Apr 7, 2013, 6:32 AM
        2. This is a post of a confused man. - Jim on Apr 9, 2013, 9:08 PM
      6. Jim is inventing a new premise. The Premise is that Jesus is God in his own words. - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 8, 2013, 9:17 PM
        1. Hello Mr. opinionator! - Jim on Apr 8, 2013, 9:28 PM
        2. Let's see! - Jim on Apr 8, 2013, 9:30 PM
        3. Anoter one! - Jim on Apr 8, 2013, 9:41 PM
        4. This is fun! - Jim on Apr 8, 2013, 10:03 PM
        5. Another one! - Jim on Apr 8, 2013, 10:19 PM
          1. You baptize him with a new name? lol. - emmanuel on Apr 8, 2013, 10:31 PM
            1. do you have any suggestion? - Jim on Apr 8, 2013, 10:36 PM
            2. His other name is Beatrice77 - Jim on Apr 8, 2013, 10:58 PM
        6. in Conclusion: - Jim on Apr 8, 2013, 10:32 PM
        7. Jim is getting desperate. As Socrates says when the debate is lost, the slander becomes - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 9, 2013, 9:44 PM
    3. JESUS ACCEPTED WORSHIP. - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 11, 2013, 6:28 AM
      1. Jesus said no one should be served except God. But - Tomas on Apr 12, 2013, 9:00 AM
      2. Tomas, don't you serve anybody? Don't you serve your parents? - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 12, 2013, 9:46 PM
        1. The Greek word was used for religious service, - Tomas on Apr 19, 2013, 1:20 PM
     
  11. Iglesia ministers push that Jesus is man, which nobody disputes. View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 3, 2013, 8:14 AM
    1. But they ignore bible passages pointing to Jesus as God too. - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 3, 2013, 8:15 AM
      1. Dean, Jesus is the Son of God, NOT God. Do not exceed to what is written. - emmanuel on Apr 3, 2013, 12:15 PM
      2. Emmanuel, you are illiterate. Finish high school first. - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 3, 2013, 2:18 PM
    2. Jim, these bible passages directly point to Jesus as God, not just Son of God. Why do you - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 3, 2013, 2:20 PM
      1. VITW stop twisting what is written! - Jim on Apr 3, 2013, 3:24 PM
    3. Jim, these are bible passages. BTW. what is VITW? - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 3, 2013, 5:08 PM
      1. just look into the mirror, you can see VITW. - Jim on Apr 4, 2013, 3:30 PM
        1. You put us in a maze. lol. - emmanuel on Apr 5, 2013, 1:34 AM
          1. It's VoicedInTheWilderness! - Jim on Apr 5, 2013, 5:19 AM
            1. It's clear now. lol. - emmanuel on Apr 5, 2013, 9:55 AM
              1. That's what I suspected too. VITW disappeared, and soon after - Tomas on Apr 5, 2013, 3:47 PM
      2. Jim, you can bash VWTI all you want, but you are just evading the question. - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 5, 2013, 7:18 PM
        1. There is no direct passages! - Jim on Apr 6, 2013, 9:07 AM
    4. Dean, I dispute it. He might not be a man now. - Tomas on Apr 5, 2013, 3:43 PM
      1. The Book of Revelation described clearly. In Rev. 1, - cyrus2013 on Apr 9, 2013, 9:36 AM
        1. Jesus power came ffrom God..... it was given to him. - Jim on Apr 9, 2013, 9:35 PM
          1. It is not a concoction. It is all there in the Bible. - cyrus2013 on Apr 10, 2013, 6:59 AM
            1. He emptied himself, but not necessarily of being God. - Tomas on Apr 12, 2013, 9:45 AM
              1. The verse clearly says; He emptied himself. - cyrus2013 on Apr 12, 2013, 4:22 PM
              2. We are not in the position to infuse a doubt in a very clear statement - cyrus2013 on Apr 13, 2013, 5:57 PM
                1. If it were clear, I would admit it was clear. - Tomas on Apr 19, 2013, 1:12 PM
     
  12. We are Catholic! And we are proud! View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 14, 2013, 3:30 PM
    1. Nothing to be proud of. No salvation to those who worship stone/lifeless God. - emmanuel on Apr 14, 2013, 8:36 PM
      1. You still don't get it emmanuel, do you? - Joe_516 on Apr 15, 2013, 3:45 AM
      2. They don't worship those stupid crucifixes. - Tomas on Apr 19, 2013, 1:02 PM
     
  13. Jesus in His own words that He is God. If He's not God, He commits blasphemy. View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Jan 3, 2013, 8:03 AM
    1. The true God said, I am God. If Jesus is God, He should also say I am God. - emmanuel on Jan 3, 2013, 10:14 AM
      1. Jesus did say "I am the Lord thy God." in Isaiah 43:3. - Dean O'Gowan on Jan 4, 2013, 6:40 AM
      2. Felix Manalo admits the true church is the church founded by Jesus. - Dean O'Gowan on Jan 4, 2013, 6:46 AM
        1. I have other sheep not of this fold. - emmanuel on Jan 4, 2013, 9:35 AM
        2. Emmanuel, are you an aeta or negrito? Jesus says I have other sheep. (Present tense.) - Dean O'Gowan on Jan 4, 2013, 10:16 AM
          1. Isaiah 41:9 - emmanuel on Jan 4, 2013, 10:38 AM
            1. Then you must agree that Christians are servants chosen by God - Joe_516 on Apr 12, 2013, 9:02 AM
          2. Emmanuel, you are funny. Isaiah is the story about the Jews. Nothing about Filipinos. - Dean O'Gowan on Jan 4, 2013, 11:28 AM
            1. ends of the earth - emmanuel on Jan 4, 2013, 9:18 PM
              1. end of the earth or ends of the earth? - huli_ka on Jan 12, 2013, 8:34 PM
                1. ends. with an 's'. - emmanuel on Jan 12, 2013, 9:45 PM
                  1. Ends means distant places, not one distant time. - Tomas on Jan 13, 2013, 4:47 AM
          3. I agree... Good logic... - Joe_516 on Apr 12, 2013, 8:58 AM
        3. Emmanuel is wishful dreaming again. The Isaiah story and the Old Testament itself is about - Dean O'Gowan on Jan 5, 2013, 7:10 AM
      3. The Father saysl Jesus is God. - cyrus2013 on Jan 11, 2013, 7:54 PM
        1. You used a wrong translation of the bible. - emmanuel on Jan 12, 2013, 12:39 AM
          1. How can you say that your translation is the correct one? - Joe_516 on Apr 12, 2013, 8:52 AM
            1. By checking the Greek text. - Tomas on Apr 12, 2013, 8:56 AM
              1. And I've learned that the INC uses bible translations - Joe_516 on Apr 12, 2013, 9:05 AM
                1. No church is perfect, that is why we should check the Greek - Tomas on Apr 12, 2013, 9:10 AM
                  1. Are you sure you really check the Greek text? - Joe_516 on Apr 12, 2013, 9:22 AM
                    1. Every translation is wrong sometimes. - Tomas on Apr 12, 2013, 9:29 AM
              2. I was able to watch some of INC's TV programs trying to - Joe_516 on Apr 12, 2013, 9:16 AM
                1. You can't stick to one, because no translation is perfect. - Tomas on Apr 12, 2013, 9:25 AM
                  1. So you are sure that your ministers use the right one? - Joe_516 on Apr 12, 2013, 10:30 AM
                    1. There is also another Greek version that says church of the Lord. - emmanuel on Apr 12, 2013, 10:52 AM
                      1. What is the exact text? - Joe_516 on Apr 12, 2013, 11:21 AM
                      2. Church of the Lord. - emmanuel on Apr 12, 2013, 11:29 AM
                      3. It is Lord Jesus because He has blood while God has no blood. - emmanuel on Apr 12, 2013, 7:45 PM
                      4. And I say to you, Jesus is the incarnate God... - Joe_516 on Apr 12, 2013, 9:01 PM
                      5. If you will show to me the word incarnation from the Bible, I will believe you. - emmanuel on Apr 12, 2013, 9:47 PM
                      6. I know what you are trying to point out... - Joe_516 on Apr 13, 2013, 12:05 AM
                      7. Jesus and the apostles never said Jesus was God. Only Catholics said that. - emmanuel on Apr 13, 2013, 12:49 AM
                      8. Jesus and the apostles never said Jesus was God. Only Catholics said that. - emmanuel on Apr 13, 2013, 12:51 AM
                      9. Thomas said... "My Lord and my God..." - Joe_516 on Apr 14, 2013, 1:02 AM
                      10. Whoever says Jesus is God is wrong. - emmanuel on Apr 14, 2013, 1:21 AM
                      11. The original text was not written in English... When the evangelists were - Joe_516 on Apr 14, 2013, 9:49 AM
                      12. Haven't you studied sentence patterns? - Joe_516 on Apr 14, 2013, 9:54 AM
                      13. Did the sentence pattern allows to have three gods. - emmanuel on Apr 14, 2013, 10:02 AM
                      14. Only you INC's says that the Catholics has three gods... we say... there is only ONE God.. - Joe_516 on Apr 14, 2013, 10:17 AM
                      15. Probably you are going to bring up the teaching on Trinity - Joe_516 on Apr 14, 2013, 10:24 AM
                      16. Catholics said Trinity was a mystery. When was it revealed. - emmanuel on Apr 14, 2013, 7:20 PM
                      17. It was already revealed by Jesus Himself... and it's a mystery - Joe_516 on Apr 15, 2013, 3:51 AM
                      18. Trinty is not a mystery. It is FICTION. - emmanuel on Apr 15, 2013, 7:40 PM
                      19. You know what, in understanding the Scripture... - Joe_516 on Apr 14, 2013, 10:15 AM
                      20. The context of those difficult verses does not clarify it either. - Tomas on Apr 19, 2013, 12:55 PM
                    2. Joe 516, our ministers exist in many denominations. - Tomas on Apr 19, 2013, 12:52 PM
                2. Because some verse in some translation have a contradiction to other related verse. - emmanuel on Apr 12, 2013, 10:51 AM
        2. Arian Goodspeed bible teaches that God is a throne! A FURNITURE! - Dean O'Gowan on Jan 12, 2013, 1:16 AM
          1. To avoid being bias. INC do not have their own bible. - emmanuel on Jan 12, 2013, 9:52 PM
          2. So is it wrong to refer to Jesus as the Lamb of God, or the bread of life? - Tomas on Jan 13, 2013, 4:50 AM
    2. The words of Jesus are clear. You will be damned. "He who believes not will be damned." - Dean O'Gowan on Jan 4, 2013, 12:40 AM
      1. The INC members believe too. - Tomas on Jan 13, 2013, 4:45 AM
      2. You Tomas and Emmanuel believe in another gospel. - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 13, 2013, 3:23 AM
        1. The apostles and Jesus Himself preached He's a Man. - emmanuel on Apr 13, 2013, 10:07 PM
        2. Emmanuel, nobody disputes that Jesus is man. But Paul says Jesus is God as well. - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 14, 2013, 4:51 AM
          1. John calls Jesus God. Jesus is himself God. - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 14, 2013, 4:54 AM
            1. All you got are spurious verses! - Jim on Apr 14, 2013, 5:09 AM
          2. Thomas calls Jesus in Greek "the Lord of me and the God of me." - Dean O'Gowan on Apr 14, 2013, 3:05 PM
            1. So I guess he was addressing both of them. - Tomas on Apr 19, 2013, 12:58 PM
     
 
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