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  1. And God said worship Me, my son AND the holy spirit (NOT the administration!) View Thread - Chandra on Nov 25, 2015, 8:03 AM
    1. Where in the Bible did God say to worship the Holy Spirit? - Tomas on Dec 5, 2015, 6:11 AM
     
  2. Were there TWO Gods in the beginning? View Thread - INCquisitor on Sep 7, 2015, 6:35 AM
    1. In the beginning was one God, who could have been more than one person. - Tomas on Sep 12, 2015, 4:08 AM
      1. Could have been? Don't you trust John 17:3? - INCquisitor on Sep 21, 2015, 8:09 AM
        1. I definitely trust John 17:3. Jesus said that the Father is the only true God, but - Tomas on Sep 21, 2015, 7:49 PM
          1. Tell us honestly Tomas, how many "persons" is the Father? - INCquisitor on Sep 22, 2015, 4:54 PM
            1. The Father is one person. But he might not be all of the only true God. - Tomas on Sep 22, 2015, 8:00 PM
              1. Yes, Peter is no idiot. But maybe you are! - INCquisitor on Sep 24, 2015, 5:31 PM
                1. Obviously Jesus would never give Peter non-kosher animals or blood to eat - Tomas on Sep 26, 2015, 9:03 AM
                  1. Jesus did not have to give Peter blood to eat to prove Mark 7:15 true. - INCquisitor on Sep 26, 2015, 2:30 PM
                    1. Don't you see? Peter protested that he won't eat such animals, they are unclean. - Tomas on Sep 26, 2015, 7:26 PM
                      1. Everyone has the freedom to choose what one wants or does not want to eat. - INCquisitor on Sep 27, 2015, 7:48 PM
                      2. Yes, this country's laws are not God's laws. So you're free to fornicate and eat blood, - Tomas on Sep 29, 2015, 9:17 PM
    2. No. There is only one God, who is the Father of Jesus, the God of Abraham, and of Moses. - Michael on Nov 22, 2015, 10:44 AM
      1. The Father of Jesus does not exist and subsist in three distinct persons. - INCquisitor on Nov 22, 2015, 2:38 PM
        1. If you listen to your own human understanding, you may be right. - Michael on Nov 23, 2015, 7:20 PM
          1. The "word" was not "embodied" in flesh. The word BECAME flesh (John 1:14). - INCquisitor on Nov 26, 2015, 9:48 AM
            1. Yes the Word became flesh. If you don't like the word incarnate, then no problem. - Michael on Nov 27, 2015, 8:33 PM
              1. Using the word "incarnate" for the word "become" is TWISTING the word of God. - INCquisitor on Nov 29, 2015, 9:26 AM
                1. So you don't like the word "incarnate". Perhapas you like - Michael on Dec 3, 2015, 7:02 AM
                2. So you don't like the word "incarnate". How about the word "egeneto" or "g - Michael on Dec 3, 2015, 8:38 AM
     
  3. God is the "Beginning and the End." Jesus is the "First and the Last." View Thread - INCquisitor on Nov 15, 2015, 7:14 AM
    1. Do you know who the "Alpha and Omega" is? - Michael on Nov 15, 2015, 8:50 PM
      1. God (Rev. 1:8) and Jesus (Rev. 1:11) are BOTH the alpha and the Omega. - INCquisitor on Nov 16, 2015, 4:45 PM
        1. There is only one God and there is NONE like Him. He is the Alpha and the Omega. - Michael on Nov 17, 2015, 12:53 AM
          1. Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega too. Yet, Jesus, the MAN is different from God. - INCquisitor on Nov 17, 2015, 1:29 PM
            1. And not because scriptures says that, but because that's what you believe. - Michael on Nov 17, 2015, 9:20 PM
              1. UP INCqusitor - Michael on Nov 23, 2015, 4:46 PM
     
  4. INCquisitor said he is a disciple of Christ and that John 15:15 applies to him. View Thread - Michael on Oct 25, 2015, 11:03 AM
    1. Being a disciple of Christ does not necessarily mean being an apostle too. - INCquisitor on Oct 25, 2015, 1:24 PM
      1. That is not the issue, but your claim to be one among the "you" in John 15:15 - Michael on Oct 26, 2015, 3:49 AM
        1. Re: That is not the issue, but your claim to be one among the "you" in John 15:15 - INCquisitor on Oct 26, 2015, 4:37 AM
          1. You sure claim infallibility on all the things that Jesus heard from His Father. - Michael on Oct 26, 2015, 6:29 AM
            1. UP for INCquisitor - Michael on Nov 17, 2015, 8:17 AM
     
  5. How do true worshipers worship the Father in spirit and truth? View Thread - INCquisitor on Oct 3, 2015, 8:37 AM
    1. We true worshipers worship the Father in the Holy Spirit, and in truth, we seek - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 10:58 AM
      1. Are Jesus-worshipers "true worshipers of the Father?" - INCquisitr on Oct 4, 2015, 8:35 AM
        1. Yes, indeed. - Tomas on Oct 10, 2015, 7:01 AM
          1. Does the Father seek true worshipers to worship Jesus? - INCquisitor on Oct 10, 2015, 7:09 AM
            1. Sure, besides worshiping the Father, we should worship Jesus too. - Tomas on Oct 10, 2015, 10:28 AM
              1. Show me scripture that says the Father seeks true worshipers to worship Jesus. - INCquisitor on Oct 10, 2015, 5:45 PM
                1. No need for the Bible to say that. But the Bible is clear, Jesus said what - Tomas on Oct 10, 2015, 6:18 PM
                  1. It's dangerous to ASSUME things that Jesus did not actually teach or say. - INCquisitor on Oct 11, 2015, 7:02 AM
                    1. Jesus surely taught it, since when they worshiped him, he did not object. - Tomas on Oct 11, 2015, 5:44 PM
                      1. I see that you don't understand any of the scriptures I cited above. - INCquisitor on Oct 11, 2015, 6:01 PM
                      2. No, I believe you misunderstand those verses. - Tomas on Oct 17, 2015, 12:24 PM
                      3. What are NOT written are simply your ASSUMPTIONS! - INCquisitor on Oct 17, 2015, 2:48 PM
                      4. Sorry that you think such biblical truths are just assumptions. - Tomas on Oct 17, 2015, 10:31 PM
                      5. Don't fool us. Only those WRITTEN in the Bible are "Biblical truths!" - INCquisitor on Oct 18, 2015, 8:46 AM
                      6. Enough is written about these in the Bible that we know they are biblical truths. - Tomas on Oct 24, 2015, 7:41 AM
                      7. Re: Enough is written about these in the Bible that we know they are biblical truths. - INCquisitor on Oct 25, 2015, 8:06 AM
                      8. It is biblical truths, it ought to be clear to you from the Bible. - Tomas on Oct 31, 2015, 10:23 AM
    2. What does worship "in spirit" and "in truth" means? - Michael on Oct 23, 2015, 9:25 AM
      1. True worshipers "fear God and keep His commandments." - INCquisitor on Oct 24, 2015, 5:01 AM
        1. Nobody is sinless. But a true worshiper will quickly repent of his sin, - Tomas on Oct 24, 2015, 11:12 AM
        2. But how do true worshipers worship the Father in spirit and truth? That is the OP issue. - Michael on Oct 24, 2015, 11:55 AM
          1. Faith, hope, love are spirit? Are faithlessness, despair, hate, also spirit? - Tomas on Oct 24, 2015, 12:57 PM
            1. Yes they are Tomas. - Michael on Oct 24, 2015, 8:34 PM
              1. What, words of Jesus are spirit? Where do you see that? - Tomas on Oct 24, 2015, 11:13 PM
                1. Yes Tomas, words of Jesus are spirit. - Michael on Oct 25, 2015, 12:43 PM
                  1. You are right, the words of Jesus are spirit, whatever he meant by saying it, exactly. - Tomas on Oct 31, 2015, 10:35 AM
                    1. Re: You are right, the words of Jesus are spirit, whatever he meant by saying it, exactly. - Michael on Oct 31, 2015, 10:16 PM
                      1. So do you mean then that worshiping in spirit is worshiping in the words of Jesus? - Tomas on Nov 1, 2015, 1:06 AM
                      2. No Tomas. I can't even comprehend what is to worship in the words of Jesus. - Michael on Nov 3, 2015, 10:11 AM
                      3. OK, so that is not what you meant. - Tomas on Nov 7, 2015, 1:08 AM
                      4. That's right Tomas. Find meaning and joy in worshiping God, Tomas. - Michael on Nov 7, 2015, 7:42 AM
                      5. Yes, it is wonderful to worship our wonderful God. - Tomas on Nov 7, 2015, 7:49 AM
          2. You worship God "in spirit" if you FEAR Him and "in truth" if you KEEP His comma - INCquisitor on Nov 1, 2015, 6:01 PM
            1. Let's consider what you say INCquisitor. - Michael on Nov 3, 2015, 10:46 AM
              1. Re: Let's consider what you say INCquisitor. - INCquisitor on Nov 4, 2015, 4:22 PM
                1. The matter is HOW is to worship God in spirit and truth. - Michael on Nov 5, 2015, 5:10 AM
                  1. Re: The matter is HOW is to worship God in spirit and truth. - INCquisitor on Nov 5, 2015, 4:47 PM
                    1. Fear is different from love, hope and faith ..... - Michael on Nov 6, 2015, 8:48 PM
                      1. Fear, love, faith, and hope are ALL "invisiblet" and "immaterial." - INCquisitor on Nov 7, 2015, 7:13 AM
                      2. Yes they are the same in that sense INCquisitor, but not in meaning. - Michael on Nov 7, 2015, 9:26 AM
                      3. Nobody is saying that fear, faith, hope, and love have the same meaning. - INCquisitor on Nov 8, 2015, 3:26 PM
                      4. That's good then, INCquisitor. - Michael on Nov 11, 2015, 1:26 AM
     
  6. Tumpak, since you are Catholic, let's discuss the fact that Mary did not remain a virgin. View Thread - Tomas on Sep 19, 2015, 4:38 PM
    1. where is your proof that Mary is not a virgin anymore? - Nom on Sep 21, 2015, 7:16 AM
    2. Re: Tumpak, since you are Catholic, let's discuss the fact that Mary did not remain a virgin. - Nom on Sep 21, 2015, 7:30 AM
      1. Mary was married to Joseph, not to the Holy Spirit. Why would she refuse - Tomas on Sep 21, 2015, 8:18 PM
        1. why sex? is that a new religion? - Nom on Sep 23, 2015, 7:03 AM
          1. It's not a new idea. Many Protestants agree with me, probably most - Tomas on Sep 26, 2015, 6:49 AM
            1. yep, you and other protestants! are you all infallible? - Nom on Sep 28, 2015, 11:35 PM
              1. Nobody here on earth is infallible. So we need to study the Bible carefully. - Tomas on Sep 29, 2015, 7:32 PM
    3. the problem with you is that - tumpak on Sep 26, 2015, 6:31 AM
      1. And Tumpak, I answered you about 1 Cor. 4:6 below, and Michael also asked you - Tomas on Sep 26, 2015, 9:05 AM
    4. the problem with you is that - tumpak on Sep 26, 2015, 6:36 AM
      1. Disrespectful? Do you think most Protestants are disrespectful of Mary when - Tomas on Sep 26, 2015, 6:55 AM
        1. Jesus is happy about TRUTH? - Nom on Sep 28, 2015, 11:44 PM
          1. Yes, the happy truth that Mary had a good and fruitful marriage with Joseph, - Tomas on Sep 29, 2015, 8:01 PM
            1. so Tomas, NO Bibe verse? just assumption? - Nom on Sep 29, 2015, 10:42 PM
              1. I gave you verses. What do you want? A verse saying 'sex'? - Tomas on Sep 30, 2015, 12:34 AM
            2. do you know Clopas and Mary? - Nom on Oct 1, 2015, 9:54 PM
              1. Mary, wife of Clopas, is mentioned only in John 19:25, and there is no mention - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 2:54 AM
      2. The truth is that you dwell - tumpak on Oct 21, 2015, 3:41 AM
        1. What do you mean by S thinking? Anyway, Jesus wants us to read or listen to the Bible, - Tomas on Oct 24, 2015, 8:57 AM
      3. God want us to spread the gospel , the good news - tumpak on Nov 3, 2015, 12:00 AM
        1. I believe in spreading the good news, the gospel. - Tomas on Nov 3, 2015, 9:35 PM
    5. this is INC forum, get out from here and goto Catholic forum! - Nom on Sep 28, 2015, 11:36 PM
      1. This is an issue where INC disagrees with Catholics, Orthodox and a few - Tomas on Sep 29, 2015, 8:05 PM
     
  7. FYM The Movie View Thread - anne on Sep 10, 2015, 8:37 AM
    1. The talking in the films is mainly in Tagalog, so it is not very useful for - Tomas on Sep 12, 2015, 3:48 AM
     
  8. "The Rise and Fall of the INC View Thread - guest on Aug 30, 2015, 11:58 AM
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  10. EVM's Airbus View Thread - Saleem Sinai on Aug 5, 2015, 8:15 PM
    1. Re: EVM's Airbus - Mervy on Aug 8, 2015, 10:06 AM
    2. So what? - Mickey on Aug 14, 2015, 10:18 AM
      1. What detractor would be evil enough to cause a commotion on the plane when seeing - Tomas on Aug 15, 2015, 6:57 AM
        1. Wrong - MIckey on Aug 16, 2015, 9:49 AM
          1. Well, if somebody around me made an allegation about misconduct, - Tomas on Aug 22, 2015, 9:13 AM
     
  11. The "gospel" that the INC preaches every worship service. View Thread - INCquisitor on Jul 26, 2015, 8:38 AM
    1. Heb. 10:25 is primarily about worship. - Tomas on Aug 8, 2015, 8:33 AM
      1. You are thinking beyond what is written. Heb. 10:25 is not about worship. - INCquisitor on Aug 13, 2015, 3:27 PM
        1. If they assemble together, why would they refuse to worship God? - Tomas on Aug 15, 2015, 7:09 AM
          1. The Father seeks true worshipers to worship Him in spirit and truth. - INCquisitor on Aug 16, 2015, 6:39 PM
            1. Yes, that's what we Christians do, both individually and in groups, like congregations. - Tomas on Aug 22, 2015, 9:01 AM
     
 
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