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  1. FOR TF: Scriptures that proves that the Holy Spirit is God. View Thread - Michael on Mar 30, 2:20 AM
    1. nahhh.those circumstantial verse proves nothing - tf on Mar 31, 11:00 PM
      1. Obviously, you can't refute, and now this frustrated attempt. - Michael on Apr 1, 8:10 PM
        1. it is already refuted by john 17:3 the primary reference - tf on Apr 2, 12:39 AM
          1. Scriptures will not refute scriptures TF. - Michael on Apr 2, 6:01 PM
            1. we e still in the primary verse john17..think about this - tf on Apr 2, 11:54 PM
              1. There is no such thing as primary verse, nor is there a secondary or tertiary verse TF. - Michael on Apr 3, 9:15 PM
                1. there is of course - truthfinder on Apr 3, 9:35 PM
                  1. So, that is your reason why you evade the scriptures I cited? - Michael on Apr 4, 12:08 AM
     
  2. 2 Corinthians 8:9. TF, how did FYM explained this verse? Christ was rich and became poor? View Thread - Michael on Apr 3, 9:40 PM
    1. you claim that he never looses his mega powers? - truthfinder on Apr 3, 9:42 PM
      1. I think this is not supposed to be under this thread. - Michael on Apr 3, 9:44 PM
     
  3. michael boy..is the human nature part of the trinity now? View Thread - tf on Mar 30, 1:35 AM
    1. What's the point of this? If you're just out for personal issues, I'm out. - Michael on Mar 30, 1:38 AM
      1. ohh boy....you cannot don't feel the heat - tf on Mar 30, 1:42 AM
        1. I beg your pardon, I'm not into personal stuff. It's not the way to talk about scriptures - Michael on Mar 30, 1:44 AM
          1. now back to the issue my man - tf on Mar 30, 1:46 AM
            1. Re: now back to the issue my man - Michael on Mar 30, 2:11 AM
              1. therefore - tf on Mar 31, 10:13 PM
                1. Ok. If you want this low level of conversation, let me try to go low. - Michael on Apr 1, 9:29 PM
                  1. Re: Ok. If you want this low level of conversation, let me try to go low. - tf on Apr 2, 12:36 AM
                    1. I tried. Sorry, but I can't go low any further. - Michael on Apr 2, 6:04 PM
     
  4. Some clear scriptural unrefuted proofs that God is a Trinity View Thread - Michael on Mar 20, 6:45 PM
    1. The words of Jesus written in John 17:3 and John 8:40 PREVAIL - INCquisitor on Mar 21, 4:43 AM
      1. The words of God, through His angels, His prophets, and His Son prevails. - Michael on Mar 21, 5:38 AM
        1. you ask who is thw he in verse 6? - tf on Apr 1, 12:03 AM
          1. How about giving a complete answer? - Michael on Apr 1, 7:27 PM
            1. there is a he also for moses does that make moses god? - tf on Apr 2, 12:29 AM
              1. If you have not noticed, the question refers to the "He" not "he" in the quoted - Michael on Apr 2, 11:21 AM
                1. go back to the originsl greek if there is capitalization or not - tf on Apr 2, 11:44 AM
                  1. Well, the question would not be like that if I would cite the Greek text. - Michael on Apr 2, 12:25 PM
      2. Can INCQUISITOR, overseer of FCCC, refute the truth presented at the OP? - Michael on Mar 21, 9:06 AM
        1. Jesus says, the Father is the ONLY true God. - INCquisitor on Mar 22, 7:31 AM
          1. And so, the overseer of FCCC can't refute the OP. FCCC take note of this. - Michael on Mar 22, 9:25 AM
    2. INCquisitor, Re:John 8:40 - Dean O'Gowan on Mar 21, 5:56 AM
      1. John 17:3 - Dean O'Gowan on Mar 21, 6:10 AM
        1. Jesus' reason for identifying the Father as the ONLY true God - INCquisitor on Mar 21, 3:44 PM
        2. dean..christ was oraying for his disciples already.. - tf on Mar 23, 10:39 PM
      2. No human reasoning can PREVAIL over what Christ - INCquisitor on Mar 21, 3:36 PM
    3. is john 17:3,1 not a scriptural proof? - tf on Mar 22, 4:47 AM
      1. Did you know that geocities.com is no longer available? - INCquisitor on Mar 22, 7:01 AM
      2. Of what TF? That the Father is the only true God? - Michael on Mar 22, 9:28 AM
        1. if u agree that the father is the only true god.. - tf on Mar 23, 10:34 PM
          1. Because that's how you want to understand what I'm saying. - Michael on Mar 24, 2:22 AM
            1. so Christ the statement of Christ is not complete based on your understanding - TF on Mar 24, 3:20 AM
              1. Should I tell that to Christ? Must I say that Christ erred and lacks? - Michael on Mar 24, 9:03 AM
                1. you are putting your own understanding before Christ - truthfinder on Mar 24, 10:30 PM
                  1. How could that be? Hope you are still in you consciousness. - Michael on Mar 25, 11:42 AM
                    1. The Father is Christ's God as well - tf on Mar 26, 3:32 AM
                      1. Of course, for He took on humanity, becoming a man. - Michael on Mar 27, 1:14 AM
                      2. so the only human nature of Christ recognizes his Father as God? - tf on Mar 27, 4:04 AM
                      3. Of course the whole person of Christ recognizes His father as God. - Michael on Mar 27, 6:40 AM
                      4. so Christ has two wills human and divine working simultaneously - tf on Mar 28, 3:34 AM
                      5. Never really run out of logical issues. I hope you'll address the OP properly after this. - Michael on Mar 30, 9:19 AM
                      6. so there was a tme when gid do not know the end of the world? - tf on Mar 31, 10:21 PM
                      7. None. I hope you also answer my questions. That is, if you can. - Michael on Apr 1, 7:06 PM
                      8. So TF, can you answer the questions? Why do you evade the questions? - Michael on Apr 2, 11:25 AM
                      9. u said none..so christ is lying then for u? - tf on Apr 2, 11:45 AM
                      10. And why is that? And so, you evade yet again? You can't answer my questions, right? - Michael on Apr 2, 12:28 PM
                2. michale is a classic example of twisting the meaning of scripture to suit him - truthfinder on Mar 25, 2:39 AM
                  1. Perhaps this is descriptive of you, not me. - Michael on Mar 25, 11:46 AM
                    1. is magdalene an idol worshipper? - tf on Mar 26, 3:04 AM
                      1. Perhaps not. Why asked? - Michael on Mar 27, 1:19 AM
                      2. that means you alibi is wrong - tf on Mar 27, 3:46 AM
                      3. What alibi are you talking about? Read and understand. - Michael on Mar 27, 6:46 AM
                      4. i'm telling you your premise is wrong - tf on Mar 28, 3:05 AM
                      5. You have to study why Jesus here in John 17:3 prays for this. - Michael on Mar 28, 9:05 PM
                      6. NOTHING can alter the truth of what Jesus said - INCquisitor on Mar 30, 5:05 PM
                      7. Definitely. - Michael on Apr 2, 12:04 AM
    4. you cannot prove trnity by stitching verses..on that subject - tf on Mar 31, 11:31 PM
      1. The proper thing for you to do is refute the OP, because that is what is before you. - Michael on Apr 1, 8:00 PM
    5. his truth is not weitten in the bible so he has to explain it - tf on Mar 31, 11:51 PM
      1. Refute properly TF. Don't get down to such low and cheap level of discussion. - Michael on Apr 1, 8:03 PM
        1. that is a refutation - tf on Apr 2, 4:06 AM
          1. What? That's your refutation? In that case, you can't refute anything at all. - Michael on Apr 2, 11:37 AM
            1. that is not main proof my friend - tf on Apr 2, 11:39 AM
              1. So, clearly you evade and can't refute. That's it I guess for you in this thread. - Michael on Apr 2, 12:48 PM
     
  5. jhn 17:3 the whole truth about who God is...hi michael View Thread - truthfinder on Mar 26, 10:02 PM
    1. hey mike care to refute sentence by sentence..word for word - tf on Mar 27, 4:03 AM
      1. Gladly TF. - Michael on Mar 30, 8:58 AM
        1. What Jesus said in John 17:3 is absolute. - INCquisitor on Mar 30, 5:56 PM
          1. Re: What Jesus said in John 17:3 is absolute. - Michael on Mar 31, 5:38 PM
            1. Re: What Jesus said in John 17:3 is absolute. - INCquisitor on Mar 31, 7:27 PM
              1. Re: What Jesus said in John 17:3 is absolute. - Michael on Apr 1, 11:15 PM
        2. this part you said gets my attention for now - tf on Mar 31, 10:10 PM
          1. Ok. But I hope you get back soon to the other parts. - Michael on Apr 1, 8:22 PM
    2. Incomplete understanding of John 17:3. - Dean O'Gowan on Mar 31, 10:32 AM
      1. jesus is the sent one - tf on Mar 31, 10:55 PM
     
  6. does the person of god change?hi michael View Thread - tf on Mar 26, 5:13 AM
    1. hi mikey...which of your previous answers you will choose now? - tf on Mar 27, 4:03 AM
      1. Clarify your question if you want answers. - Michael on Mar 27, 4:33 AM
        1. dont play dumb now... - tf on Mar 27, 12:05 PM
          1. I never play dumb. I ask to be clarified, so I could respond correctly. - Michael on Mar 27, 12:42 PM
            1. you have one being with three persons all with the sme nature - tf on Mar 28, 3:03 AM
              1. He never change as being the Triune God, having 3 persons within the Godhead, - Michael on Mar 29, 1:23 AM
                1. is the human nature of the 3rd person included in the Godhead now? - tf on Mar 30, 12:45 AM
                  1. You don't seem to run out of your logical issues. - Michael on Mar 30, 1:16 AM
                    1. God did not change into a fire? - tf on Mar 30, 1:35 AM
                      1. See for yourself. - Michael on Mar 30, 2:02 AM
                      2. have u not seen it? - tf on Mar 31, 10:19 PM
                      3. I did. That's why I want you to see it yourself. Perhaps a second look will do it. - Michael on Apr 1, 9:05 PM
     
  7. TF, what ancient manuscripts where your Acts 20:28 translated from? View Thread - Michael on Mar 30, 1:36 AM
    1. nice you started a topic - tf on Mar 30, 1:40 AM
      1. Was that a translation or not? - Michael on Mar 30, 1:42 AM
        1. it was lamsa's translation - tf on Mar 30, 1:45 AM
          1. I'm referring to the Peshitta. Was it a translation? - Michael on Mar 30, 1:49 AM
            1. Care to give your answer here TF? If you don't know, just say so. - Michael on Apr 1, 7:19 PM
          2. Before Lamsa completed his translation of Acts 20:28, what version did FYM used? - Michael on Mar 30, 4:08 AM
            1. the version that says church of the lord - tf on Apr 1, 12:05 AM
              1. So Acts 20:28 in FYM's time says "church of the Lord" - Michael on Apr 1, 7:18 PM
     
  8. michael...why do you deny that the father is the only true god? View Thread - tf on Mar 23, 10:47 PM
    1. I don't. - Michael on Mar 24, 12:25 AM
      1. you have other god other than the Father - TF on Mar 24, 3:22 AM
        1. I don't. In fact what I have is God as my savior, not a mere man. - Michael on Mar 24, 7:46 AM
          1. but the son is also your God? - truthfinder on Mar 25, 2:41 AM
            1. Such statement really is not right. - Michael on Mar 25, 7:05 AM
              1. r u trinitarian or oneness believer? - tf on Mar 26, 3:02 AM
              2. but that is your belief - tf on Mar 26, 5:07 AM
                1. I've already explained that to you. If you refuse to understand, there's not much I can do - Michael on Mar 28, 12:11 AM
                  1. if u accept that the father is the only true god... - tf on Mar 28, 1:14 AM
                    1. Father is not a name as to say "the Father is the only true God". You have to qualify - Michael on Mar 29, 2:46 AM
                      1. so that is how you twist the meaning right?? - tf on Mar 30, 1:28 AM
                      2. Other people will judge. - Michael on Mar 30, 2:05 AM
    2. tf is misinterpreting John 17:3. Why did Jesus say that the Father is the only true God? - Dean O'Gowan on Mar 25, 5:59 AM
      1. Whatever reasons Jesus had for saying what is written in John 17:3, - INCquisitor on Mar 25, 6:34 AM
        1. even sthanadiusbwad excumunicated - tf on Mar 26, 3:18 AM
    3. That's why Jesus warns: "You will die in your sins." - Dean O'Gowan on Mar 25, 7:43 PM
     
  9. john 1:18 --the downfall of michael View Thread - tf on Mar 28, 3:28 AM
    1. this is lessons learned for michael..pityful.. - tf on Mar 30, 12:49 AM
     
  10. Truthfinder, I see you are still lost and havent found the truth yet View Thread - Jason on Mar 29, 8:17 PM
    1. so the truth is in your church..what is your church jason - tf on Mar 29, 11:51 PM
     
 
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