This is new to me...March 4 2008 at 10:25 AM
|jumerski (Login mervy)|
There's this young beautiful INC lady in our place who just married an INC "Manggagawa" or INC Ministerial Students. I was surprised when my wife told me that the young lady is a "Hiling" (Wish/Request->don't know if this is the correct English term INC uses) from the Manggagawa she married. My wife said that this "Hiling" thing is a privelege given to INC ministerial students or "manggagawa". Would any INC here like to explain further what this "HILING" thing is???
sure i will gladly tell you
|March 4 2008, 10:36 AM |
all womans are haves wishes before they will get merried but before you jump to any conclutions,why dont you go ask your wife first before she merried you what is her wishes also... and did her wish come true...
and its the same thing to any man that we dreams of having a beautiful wife as we wish will come true was it not dont tell that you didnt dreams of having a beautiful wife
I cannot see this in the bible...
|March 4 2008, 9:27 PM |
please enlighten me jerrlyn...
see how ignorant you are
|March 4 2008, 9:44 PM |
first of all his question was not base on the bible.
it is base on a human standard.for we all have earthly wisdom and desire
and dont tell me that you never fantacies anyone in your life and dream off
to be your lovers..
his question is clear wish.what is it mean wish??????
was this in the biblical teachings or school.where you learned????
jerrlyn, it is part of the INC...
|March 4 2008, 9:52 PM |
It is what you call it is..the Church...everything in it...you have been claiming, should be in the BIBLE! Hiling is defined in your Church's dictionary...
better look what the bible says about the Wisdom of men...
well see you are dumb????
|March 4 2008, 9:55 PM |
the words hiling it differs on what it means and how they.
i hope you see the differents
but it never a part of our Churcg's Teachings....
|March 4 2008, 10:44 PM |
I do not know how you handle these issues.....
well is the questions is regards in the bible
|March 5 2008, 12:15 AM |
did you see what you are missing or you just playing dumbass!!!!
are you a woman/man.now lets view this.
when or if you were merried!on the day you were getting merried
dont tell me that you dont have wishes!
nor did not ask your partner/lover something
Im not asking what the general meaning of "Hiling" or Wish is..
|March 5 2008, 6:13 AM |
I'm asking what is "Hiling" in INC terms.
This is what I assume it means and please correct me if Im wrong..."Hiling" is a privilege given to INC ministerial students (don't know if ministers also has this privilege). This is the privilege to choose and marry any INC lady that he likes. Of course, this is only my assumption and and I may be wrong. So I'll be glad if you can further enlighten me on this matter.
was it not clear to you yet!
|March 5 2008, 9:09 AM |
let me do it again and again go ask your wife if she has also a wish to be merried also to someone she desired to be love with and is that wish come true.did you get it.
now those minister wife has a wish to have a minister husband,andher wish comes true,was it difficult for you to see the point of view.
so im not asking you but rather im telling you.you need to go back and ask your wife if her wish was you all along.and was it ment to you her loving husband.!
Please read carefully...
|March 5 2008, 9:36 AM |
Hope you understand this time.. the one who's doing the wish/hiling is the INC ministerial student and not the girl.
By the way, can you confirm or deny what Michael said?
"it is just like a preset marriage, specially if a manggagawa already ordained as minister...if the minister/manggagawa likes somebody or any girl, they are wishing to the administration for the hand of that particular lady and it's the administration's duty to talk to that lady for them to be married..." Is this how the "Hiling" is done in the INC?
And to Michael, do you know if this INC practice is recorded anywhere in the doctrinal lessons, pasugo or any other official INC documents? This is the first time I learned about this matter.
well well well
|March 5 2008, 10:32 AM |
let me see when you like someone specialy woman and you want to meet her or merry her would you rather tell your friend/parent/your pastor/minister/priest
that i want her to be my wife would you do it like that...
nonesense and im sure man will go and talk to that particular woman and ask her what this man feel inside..
again if im a man and i like this woman i would not tell no one until i walk with that person and get to know her.and then ask her to be my loving wife if she is willing she will not turn down my offer.
i dont see anyone get married against their will but if they do they end up getting divorce because of what they feel in the first place was not really sincere.and its sad that this separations is been going on for the 50yrs.
as we speaks.and who are this people are. was it not your people the people of these world.
was the divorce should follow the marriages was god pleased to this divorce
what god has join together let no man separated it.
Out of topic... diversions...
|March 5 2008, 12:01 PM |
You're not in anyway answering the SIMPLE questions asked to you... just explain how does Hiling is use in INC. Do you agree with Michael on how he described it?
|July 1 2017, 10:14 AM |
Is it a requirement for INC Manggagawa to get married before ordination as Minister of the Gospel?
As the privilege, maybe he can make the request (hiling) through INC admin (?) to marry that girl.
Just a guess and that's what Jerrlyn is trying not to give an answer directly.
hi, mervy. glad to see you still around.
<i>Estranghero</i> here... since the forum started.
|July 1 2017, 10:20 AM |
|Michael (former INCM)|
i am a former INCM, but i know about that HILING or wish...
|March 5 2008, 8:55 AM |
it is just like a preset marriage, specially if a manggagawa already ordained as minister...if the minister/manggagawa likes somebody or any girl, they are wishing to the administration for the hand of that particular lady and it's the administration's duty to talk to that lady for them to be married, usually 99% of the girl agrees because of faith and fear of the administration...
but it's not only for "a lady", a manggagawa gets anything they want (WISH), materials like trips, etc, but it's the administration who will decide that's why it's called wish...
|March 5 2008, 9:14 AM |
first of all my cousin is merried to one and let me tell you that they were inlove first when her husband deside to become a miniter inside the true church so and i know and herd so many story like what you are saying,and those who are telling story are those people like
A true reflection of a hard core INC
|June 16 2017, 8:25 PM |
Name calling people who disagree with their teaching.
In my own knowledge
|June 11 2017, 11:50 PM |
Hello :) Im only a "binhi" (younger than 18) so Im not sure if what my answer to your question is correct but yes, "mangagawa" are allowed to "hiling" the inc girl they like, but not for marraige, but to simply court her first. The girl can of course, allow him or regect.
If she does allow it, through time, when their relationship grows, the "mangagawa" can "hiling" to marry the girl.
I think they only have that privelage once they're at their peak(?) or they're near to becoming an INC minister.
Even if they've already finished their studies/training and become a full pledge INC Minister.
But if an INC Minister has no wife for so long and he doen't have any one in mind (a girl he wants to marry) the other older ministers will help him find one, and set them up or something.
Im from Philippines, english is only my second language. And Im still learning the english terms of titles/names in INC :)
I hope you find my answer useful ^^
Hiling is 'Ask/Request'
|July 5 2017, 11:08 PM |
Hiling is not restricted to ministers. If any member wants to marry someone in the church after a failed courtship or 'busted', they can ask their local leader/minister for help. They will try and help but no guaranty that it will work. If you are a minister, however, if you need help finding a bed mate, the church will choose one for you. They will choose the one who truly believe of the doctrine. The one who understand, accept and support the life of a minister. But again, the marriage is no guaranty to last forever. I know few ministers who are divorced.