...all i have seen in here is saying that we should be out and about to get noticed by imms and cabal members all javert did was spend 2 weeks sitting in guild and yelling very impressive and now that zap has passed on gestalt is on all the time sorry gestalt djalzi has inside track to elder maybe if you sit in your guild and hollar all the time you might get it i mean have you leveled in the past 2 weeks javert...????