Abandoned Realms General Forum

15 years

by Blackstaff

Reading this stuff 15 years later. Good times.

Posted on Jul 19, 2014, 3:28 PM

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Leaving AR.

by Kapruski

I deleted all of my characters already. He just put the icing on the cake by the stunts he's pulled on me for multiple occasions because he wanted to screw anyone related to fireballer over. This place is diseased.


<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>who
[ Avian ] [JUSTICE] Kyrsztak the Shapeshifter, Sergeant of Justice
[ Avian ] Anaphiel Adimus the Enchantress
[ 1 Gnome War] Gronshah the Grunt
Players found: 3
There are 3 characters on; the most on this past month was 21.

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>pray Nycticora banned my forum account citing a rule that didn't apply to me and then proceeded to spam my screen with mind wanders.
You pray 'Nycticora banned my forum account citing a rule that didn't apply to me and then proceeded to spam my screen with mind wanders.'

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>
An Immortal has transferred you.
The Throne of the Lord of Darkness
This awe-inspiring chamber is incredulously supererogatory. Huge,
twisted chandeliers illuminate daunting stalactites and cast shadows at the
intricate carvings of epic battles that adorn the sloping walls. Exquisite
dwarven craftsmanship resonates from every facet of this room, demanding
apperception. A large, pulsating ornamental rug, woven with cyan and maroon
thread, covers the floor in front of a huge throne constructed of bleached
bones and skulls. Mounted on a strange caged platform, dangling
precariously from the center of the chamber, is a bizarre viewing device
aimed down at the mortal realm of Thera.

[Exits: none]
A huge stack of bleached skulls is here, forming a crude throne.

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>
An Immortal says 'orly'

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>
An Immortal says 'tell me more'

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>say I can believe it wasn't Davairus.
You say 'I can believe it wasn't Davairus.'

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>
An Immortal says 'we are one team here. Nobody who is immed would ever do anything that another one has a serious problem with'

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>
An Immortal says 'It is just not conceivable'

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>
An Immortal says 'we've all been playing this game for 10, 15 years'

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>
An Immortal says 'together'

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>say that does not logically follow.
You say 'That does not logically follow.'

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>
An Immortal says 'are you or are you not fireballer? If you lie I will permaban you outright for 180 days'

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>
An Immortal says 'you will say no other words'

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>say I'm not.
You say 'I'm not.'

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>
You have been frozen, you can't do anything!

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>
An Immortal says 'wrong answer'

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>
An Immortal says 'maybe you think you're smarter than those of us who can see your fucking ip address'

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>
An Immortal says 'however that works in your head'

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>shake
You're totally frozen!

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>say The problem here is that you don't see myself and fireballer on the same IP address.
You're totally frozen!

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>say we might share the same ISP which covers an area of 250,000 people.
You're totally frozen!

<30hp 120m 100mv no opponent>


Nycticora should take CISCO networking classes at their local commU. Maybe he would understand that an ISP can blanket thousands of square miles. Same thing happened to AOL and BrandonU. Only difference is I never played a character that cheated or broke a rule.

See you chaps. It was fun fighting and gambling with you guys.

Posted on Apr 24, 2014, 9:08 AM

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Hey Dav

by Fireballer

Hi. In reference to your "inflammatory wall of quote text". I gave you every post where you flatly contradicted what youre currently saying regarding the state of hitroll being turned onto strength, and that it is "fine".

The entire point of forums is to discuss matters. Records of past discussions are as important in understanding where we're going as current arguments. I understand that it made you look like you were contradcting your own words you said previously about the viability of elf or drow warriors or paladins or dks, but if you feel that this is necessary grounds for a ban, I think the game is in more trouble than it's worth.

I put a lot of work into finding supporting evidence and claims, from other players to you yourself, and if that is inflammatory to you now, maybe there's a personal problem you need to work on.

Posted on Feb 1, 2014, 2:32 PM

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People become assholes when they think they're in charge.

by Eh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjKJ92b9Y04&feature=player_detailpage#t=4378

the problem with Dav and other players is they have so much ego that you can't call them on being self serving or deceptive in discourse. If you do, they rage and foam at the mouth and shout "how dare you!". Quite unlike rational conversation with people on a stage face to face. Trying to argue a point on the forums is like going to Jerry Springer hoping for rational counter-arguments.

Posted on Feb 23, 2014, 10:52 AM

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hey all!

by anonymous

Im just seeing how many people are using this logboard. Im new to AR. Hope to be killed by you all soon, lol...

Posted on Mar 8, 2013, 6:31 PM

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Re: hey all!

by sondisapoint

yeah, Ill get u

Posted on Jan 11, 2014, 1:19 AM

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mud address: abandonedrealms.com 9000

by

Hi guys, just wanted to post the mud address incase anybody was around looking for it. Thank you for your loyalty over the years.

Posted on Feb 23, 2013, 10:52 PM

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Checking this.

by Anonymous

So does this work still?

Posted on Dec 21, 2010, 10:07 AM

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Woah!

by Illander

Someone else checking this!

Posted on Feb 21, 2011, 5:17 PM

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Sup?

by Clifton

Yeah...

Posted on May 9, 2004, 1:05 AM

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fuc off =)

by lol

dsaf

Posted on May 9, 2004, 3:07 AM

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All your base are belong to us!

by Phostan

All your base are belong to us!

Posted on May 3, 2003, 3:03 PM

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hehe

by Magik^

I'm still here Muhahahahahaha

Posted on Nov 17, 2000, 1:33 AM

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still here?

by stuart

i'm still here! AAAH

Posted on Nov 9, 2000, 8:52 PM

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my god it can't be!

by Magik^ aka Zap

who the hell did you post as anyways? I was Zap obviously and Shadow Hawk grin

Posted on Nov 17, 2000, 2:05 AM

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what isp's won't get banned?

by looking for a safe isp

Does anybody know what ISP's the IMMs use? I like playing but realisticly speaking...how many are left. Maybe if I use one of their ISP's we won't have this prob. Why can't they just do character registration or something? This is getting rediculous.

Posted on Mar 2, 2000, 6:32 PM

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Holy Shit...

by Odoacer

heh well damn, people still posting over here?? hehe O K =)

Posted on Feb 6, 2000, 5:40 PM

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Sure, why not?

by

Hehe...it's surprising how this one is still up.

Posted on Feb 28, 2000, 3:47 PM

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damn.. lol

by

did all the gimps finally leave?

Posted on Mar 1, 2000, 7:49 AM

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lol damn

by Magik^

get with it odo old habits die hard

Posted on Nov 17, 2000, 1:34 AM

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Duel Rules

by

If a player is challenged for a duel, why are the traditional rules not applied. The challenged buy all civilized standards, should be allowed the time, place and choice of weapons. Otherwise, many duels are simply convienent assinations. Wouldn't be interesting if a Warrior Warlord was required to do combat with a Ranger near the pond using a staff as a weapon. Make things a bit more interesting, eh?

Posted on Jan 17, 2000, 9:28 AM

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Bard?????

by Evan

Why isnt there anything on this page about Bard.
There a class to you know. Even though there the newest.

I need to know what there overall good for and are they ok pkers?

Posted on Jan 16, 2000, 7:16 AM

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Just because...

by

I just wanted to post here for old time's sake. Call me a sentimental. Anyone ever read this old thing?

Posted on Jan 4, 2000, 2:04 AM

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I do

by

...from time to time, heh.

Posted on Jan 9, 2000, 7:31 AM

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Me too!

by Bartholomew

n/t

Posted on Jan 12, 2000, 10:35 PM

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Occasionaly (NT)

by Pragma

didnt I say NT?

Posted on Jan 13, 2000, 8:44 AM

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Untitled

by skyllar

Yes I come here now and then too!

Posted on Jan 31, 2000, 12:13 PM

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telnet abandonedrealms.net 9000

by the new addy for a.r. incase one of you didnt know



Posted on Sep 10, 1999, 3:57 AM

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cheapass sacrificing

by Sorak

I wont mention any names....but I consider the following to be a cheapass move. Im new to this mud, so i dont know if im speaking out of line.
Anyways, I was in a group. Guy comes in and attacks our leader. Myself and the 2nd cant attack cuz of pk difference, fair enuff. Before our leader is slain..he gets off a 'plague' spell on the attacker..nice one!

We track down the attacker and watch him suffer in pain as the plague quickly kills him. Before he dies tho..he sac's almost all the items he looted off the leader (and he looted everything).

DOnt get me wrong..i have nothing against pk or looting. But such a childish move to sac the items? very poor sportsmanship.

my 2 cents

Posted on Jul 3, 1999, 9:51 PM

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Anyone listening?

by Anonymous

Anyone know wtf's up with AR and how do I access the chat at www.psisys.net/~mountainboy/?

thanks

Posted on Jul 1, 1999, 1:35 PM

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Answers

by person

Can only access chat with irc now I think.. Dont use that thing often.

And you can get answers on the mud on the newer forum. Check the homepage ,

www.kharduin.net/~mudgroup there is a link on there.

Posted on Jul 13, 1999, 2:06 PM

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Stick Duel

by Stick-Man

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Here look i conjured up an ar_chat room for you to play with

by Damn i'm bored.....

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<head><title>Abandoned Realms chat forum</title></head>
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<table width=80% cellpadding=4 cols=3>

<tr>
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Abandoned Realms chat forum
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<html>
<head>
<base href="http://irc.webmaster.com:80/themes/default/">
<title>Welcome to ar_chat</title>
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<applet
archive="/java/cr.zip"
codebase="/java/"
code="ConferenceRoom.class"
name=cr
width=500
height=300>
<param name=cabbase value="/java/cr.cab">
<param name=ssp value="/params/def.prm">
<param name=channel value="#ar_chat">
<param name=nick value="Guest">
<center>
This application requires Java suport.<BR>
This server also available via IRC at:<BR>
<a href="irc://java.ca.us.webchat.org:7000/">irc://java.ca.us.webchat.org:7000/</a>
</center>
</applet>


Posted on May 10, 1999, 9:31 PM

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Heres the real one haha i messed up

by ROFL!!!! I forgot to press the html button

Abandoned Realms chat forum
Abandoned Realms chat forum
Welcome to ar_chat
This application requires Java suport.
This server also available via IRC at:
irc://java.ca.us.webchat.org:7000/


Posted on May 10, 1999, 9:33 PM

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What happened???

by Seil

What has happened to AR...

Havn't been able to connect for 4 days now... What is going on? Does anyone know...? I'm desperat :)

Posted on Apr 26, 1999, 2:04 PM

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The server is down

by go to the other forum for more info (link is below

Sucks :(

Posted on Apr 27, 1999, 1:00 PM

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[WARLORD]

by

Ok this may seem like a simple question, but it isn't to me.

How do you get your hand to hand skills to 100% without fighting bare hand for more than 10 hours without a group and without leveling past 25? I would really love to be in the Warlord Cabal, but I am stumped by this.

BTW, I already got the 100% in axe, and got it because of me being a minotaur. Is there a race that gets 100% hand to hand?

Posted on Mar 26, 1999, 7:26 PM

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http://www.netbabbler.com/goto?forumid=15292

by <-- Go here to learn, its the NEW forum

nt

Posted on Mar 29, 1999, 12:18 AM

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You got it first time

by Practicer

10 hours is a pretty good time to get 100% hand to hand normally it takes most warlords more time then that

Posted on Mar 31, 1999, 7:49 AM

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Lazy Ass

by no matter

The only way to get hand to hand up is through lots of practice, it takes most races more than 10 hours to get it to 100%. Btw your 100% axe that comes naturally with your race doesn't count, you got to learn a new weapon to 100% before you can get in. If it were that easy to get 100% hand to hand and weapon then this wouldn't be a very exclusive cabal. You got to have some requirements to know that the person really wants to get in and is dedicated.

Posted on May 27, 1999, 8:22 PM

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any joe bob knows

by

Any jo bob knows that the best way to get your skills up is to quest first...I have about 18+quests and to sparr everyone in the world....

Posted on Jul 8, 1999, 9:51 AM

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Just Wondering...

by Anonymous

Anyone know what a 'mail skirt' is? It's one of the leg accessories, and it doesn't make any sense to me...


Posted on Mar 25, 1999, 4:40 PM

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Mail skirt

by Anonymous

A mail skirt is a chain mail skirt that covers the legs.

Posted on Mar 26, 1999, 7:22 PM

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right below you

by

..look right below u it is listed there or email me

Posted on Mar 23, 1999, 10:05 PM

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New Realms

by

Hello friends. As this new world is frustrating,yes, but also interesting a new -- ok, I'll cut to the point. I want to make my character, but I'm at loss for the new race stats, and classes each race can be. If anyone knows where I can find this out-send me E-mail. Thanks.


---The self that is Khariath Angelbourne

Posted on Mar 23, 1999, 5:05 PM

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New Forum

by Anonymous

Can anyone who still posts here tell me the addie to the new forum please?!?!?!?!?!

Posted on Mar 23, 1999, 4:13 PM

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http://www.netbabbler.com/goto?forumid=15292 <nt>

by I know

nt

Posted on Mar 24, 1999, 12:40 PM

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Khylandrah and I

by Equinox

...anyone wishing to know go to new forum...

Posted on Mar 21, 1999, 7:27 PM

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New forum..

by Anonymous

This forum is dead! All hail the new Forum! http://www.netbabbler.com/goto?forumid=15292

Posted on Mar 21, 1999, 7:22 PM

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Just curious

by Pendrell

I tried to log on earlier and got the msg "Your site has been banned from Abandoned Realms." I was informed by someone I knew on icq, that lives in my area, and he said he pissed off some immortal, I was also informed there was some kind of player wipe, so I thought maybee it wasn't permenant, any ideas imms?

Posted on Mar 21, 1999, 6:26 PM

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Read above

by Equinox

...Read above post and go there and you will get all u need to know


Posted on Mar 21, 1999, 7:26 PM

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Huh?

by Anonymous

Read what above post where?

Posted on Mar 25, 1999, 4:42 PM

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It's all screwd!!!!

by Downy

Why is everyone now wanted. We don't even do anything and we become wanted. Now everyone has gone to that man and become lvl 50!! It's just pure chaos, and it SUCKS!! I hope the immortals and the creator do somthing about it!!!

Posted on Mar 21, 1999, 12:05 PM

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The upcoming purge....

by Anonymous

Since no one else has talked about this subject... What's this about a purge coming up??? Why are they deleting all the characters??? What happened to cause such a major event in the mud??? Anyways, if someone could post up some answers, hopefully and Imm, I'd be gratefull.

Posted on Mar 21, 1999, 8:38 AM

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Well now, this is interesting....

by Khylandrah

....I have not been around as much lately for many reasons. All of those reasons I will not talk about, however, Echo of my Soul, know that I did not lie to you. I am having problems, but at the same time I did grow tired of the wait for us to join Justice. That was one of the most influental things in my absence, among other things. Another was that I had totally deviated from my original concept of how Khy was susposed to be, and that angered me alot. I have been rp'ing for 10 years, and all of that has been time as a DM, so I know rp'ing when I see it. Khy went from a vibrant elven healer to stats on paper, and anyone with alot of rp experience knows what I mean. She also could not give the answers that I wanted to give, Khy was a meek passive healer. I think back now, and I should never have applied to Justice, she is just not that agressive and playing her like that took away from what she was, a healer who helped everyone. I have been on a couple of times, to try and see my friends, and have had a little luck. You all know who you are, and I miss you all very much!!! Another thing that drove me away from this mud was the senseless Pk'ing that is always happening. It just takes away from the game. There was only one person Khy really hated and that was, Pendrell. We had our rounds, and it was fun, but there is just WAY to much killing for my liking, at least the senseless kind, to many trash characters. I do have another character on AR I think many of us have them, so I have really have nothing to say about that. If I play my other character that is my business, if I want to play Khy, you will see her. As for an appology....hmmm....I dont see why I owe you one, and I will not just appologize without a reason, that just makes the hollow. If you remember I spoke to you OOC and OOC means out of character so how can it be bad rp'ing??? I have many of my problems settled, and you may or may not see more of Khylandrah in the near future...keep your eyes peeled and you will just have to see..

Khylandrah..


Posted on Mar 21, 1999, 12:13 AM

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Problems with internet connection

by Anonymous

If you are leveling and you die when your connection gets cut off, isn't it reasonable for the imms to reset your char back a bit?

One problem with that is people would lie a lot. One good thing is people don't die and perhaps lose eq for technical reasons.

Posted on Mar 20, 1999, 4:26 PM

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to anon below u missed the point

by

....my point is not about sex out of 300 hrs with khy and i probably less than 3hrs were spent fooling around and i dont care what the person looks like on the other end all i am interested in is GOOD ROLE PLAY of which i think khlandrah was guilty of not using in this situation and all that i wanted was a straight answer if she didn't want to do the part than say so but dont draw me on and waste my time when there are better and more interesting things to do rp'ing....

Posted on Mar 20, 1999, 4:09 PM

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Looting and pk levels

by Xewxlab

If you can't pk someone, you shouldn't be able to loot thier corpse. Nothing more annoying then having someone loot your corpse or a friend you were grouped with and not being able to touch them because the are out of the pk range.

Xew

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 10:41 PM

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Bounty works great, if you are evil though..

by Anonymous

If they are out of your pk and are usually belw, rank 20 or so go in to town and yell out a bounty for em but you get to keep the eq, then watch him scramble =P

Posted on Mar 20, 1999, 9:33 AM

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Tips and Tricks to get into Knights

by Squire Boy

I would really appreciate if a Knight would help me out here...

My lords seems to never be on at the same time I am...

I desire greatly to become a knight, yet I have little clue as to what would be frowned upon or encouraged... I choose not to disclose my Lord's name, it might not be appreciated by him. Yet if anyone out there would be so kind as to send a few tips or tricks to enter Knight-hood, I would really be thankfull.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 3:52 PM

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Untitled

by Anonymous

You can always ask me questions if you have any.

Frag


Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 6:43 PM

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Some ideas

by

Don't have the attitude of "what are some secret tips" or anything. Remember, the point of the cabals is to imcrease your roleplaying, to flesh it out a bit.

So I'd say, think up of an RP reason. Now, you're trying to be a Knight. Is your reason just so you can eradicate all the evil in the land? What if a neutral comes up to you and wants to talk to you about your reasons? Would you be able to defend yourself? Etc. etc. Why do you want to be a Knight? Do you believe that you can accomplish your goals more solely by being a Knight? What would you do if you decided to talk to William? How would you speak to him? What would you say?

I guess the point is, remember, this shouldn't really be something like secret tips for the SATs. Remember that the Knight cabal shouldn't be your final goal, but only something that improves your ability to accomplish it.

Posted on Mar 20, 1999, 12:49 AM

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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention...

by

Also, don't limit your interaction to just whoever's squiring you. Any Knight can help you. Also, remember to act like a Knight, even to non-Knights.

Posted on Mar 20, 1999, 1:56 AM

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Burzuk - watch out - this is now the Gimp forum...

by Anonymous

I don't care what that other IMM said - don't let 'em make you stay here. Come to the other forum...

;-)

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 3:44 PM

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Yeah the new forum is great!! No more little brats : )

by Person who likes other forum

I visited the new forum and I found it to be of more control than this one.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 6:52 PM

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Lay Off

by Stryth Supporter

I would just like to tell all of you winers to lay off. If it wasn't for Stryth this mud would have died a long time ago. Instead of bitching at him to leave why don't you thank him for staying. God knows he deserves to be here a hell of a lot more than the rest of us.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 1:35 PM

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Listen up, you BrandonU people.

by Burzuk

Personally, I've tried my best to be polite and helpful on this forum, but lately the posts from your site have been full of endless whining and unwarranted attacks. So I'm going to make it absolutely clear how things stand right now between you guys and AR.

First of all, in regard to your posts -- most if not all of them can be summed up in a single word, and that word is bullshit. To hear you complain about the time you've "wasted" on the mud is nothing compared to what the Imms, especially Stryth and the other Imps, have put into this mud. To put things in perspective for you: I'm one of the lowest Imms on the mud right now. But even in my mortal life, I spent 800 hours on my character, including 600 as a level 50, to RP and to make a difference in the realms. In my short time as an Imm, I've put in an additional 250 hours to answer player questions, help players with their descriptions, deal with problems with PK'ing and RP'ing, and work behind the scenes on the recent changes. And all this doesn't include the hours I put in posting stuff like this on the forum to address your concerns as well. Compared to this, your whining about your characters comes out to exactly that -- whining. And this is just from me, a lowly level 51 Imm. Compare this to how much more a level 60 Imp must put in to keep the mud running smoothly, and all your complaints are simply ludicrous when you put it all in perspective.

Also, none of you, and I repeat, none of you have any basis to complain about anything. None of you guys play the truly influential characters on the mud like Coven or Orcrist, or the truly outstandingly role-played characters like Elendiel and William. In fact, in my short time as an Imm, I've already seen what a cesspool of multi'ing and OOC garbage your site has become. We're sick of hearing garbage RP excuses when you "conveniently" heal and give eq to other people from your site, even out-of-align, and we will continue bust you for it. Frankly, it's not fair to those of us who play the game legit to watch you pull these worthless stunts. So no, Stryth didn't ban you guys because one person lipped him off -- it's because one person from a problem site with a bad history wanted to be a smartass, when you guys are already teetering on the edge of some real serious punishment. And the other other Imms will agree with me on this matter, so your complaints about how unfair this is just means that you are insulting us by insinuating that we have no idea of what goes on in the game. So to make this clear, you guys have earned everything tossed your way. Stop complaining.

Now, as far as your punishment goes, you guys should be thankful that Stryth is still permitting you guys to play on a limited basis. I want to remind you of one thing: Stryth IS AR. There is no AR if there is no Stryth. Period. Complaining about the leniency he has already shown for you guys is just asking for a more full and permanent ban. You guys have a second chance here, and if you blow it there will be no third chance. Those of you on the forum when it first came up will remember about the people who were banned for trying to hack into people's characters almost a year ago. They pleaded and begged on the forum and said they beat up the person responsible and everything, but they're still banned to this day. Permanent bans are exactly that here on AR. If you guys want one, you guys only need to keep things up. There are hundreds of people who play on this mud, even when only 50-80 of them are logged in at once. Compared to that, you guys are just a handful of bad apples. Even though your site might not be all troublemakers, we've had it with those of you from your site that continue to be asking for punishment. Behave now, or leave if you don't like the mud. And if we have to force you to leave completely, we're going to lock the door behind you.

I will answer your questions as long as they are civil and relevant. Garbage postings will be ignored.

Burzuk

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 1:14 PM

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I'm not complaining

by annoyed paladin

after Stryth gave me a second chance, I've
followed his instructions word for word. I do not want to be banned and the people making all these stupid ass notes are doing this because they didn't get to keep a character to use from the B.U. I'm not really sympathetic for them, but i do understand. However, there is not a lot I can do about them, so I guess what happens will happen

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 2:20 PM

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Acctually I'd have to agree with you.

by


There is no doubt in my mind that being an imm is one of the hardest most time taxing things there is on any mud.
I hope you don't see this as complaining, but not all of us are bad apples. Yes there are a few who are, but can you give us any advice as to what we should do with the bad ones?
As for the person who said they've wasted time on AR is completely mad. I don't think many people do "Waste thier time" on AR. There are so many things to do that the only way you could waste time is if you just sat there or went pking.
Although it pains me that I cannot play at the university I am willing to endure it in the hope that the "bad apples" will move on and plague a different mud.
I understand that there would be no AR without Stryth. The people who were mouthing Stryth in AR and on the forum have some serious problems, and were probably mad.
I acctually agree with the ban, It is thier own fault. Hopefully they will just move to another mud.
As for me, I can still play at home, and I will continue to Role Play to the best of my abbility.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 3:30 PM

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HELP???!!!

by Dravin


HOW DO I GET TO THE NEW FORUM????????????
???????????????????????????????????????

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 11:42 AM

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See "One Last Try" post not far below. (nt)

by Anonymous

nt

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 11:44 AM

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I tryed but it didn't work. help????????!!!

by Dravin

please

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 11:54 AM

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Perhaps

by Anonymous

You aren't entering in the address correctly. Try again?

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 2:12 PM

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Try this

by Anymous

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What really happened to Khylandrah

by

...O.k. folks here goes after 4-6 weeks of waiting and being asked in the realms i am going to take the time to clear up a few situations in my relationship with Khylandrah. When we first meet in darkhaven and began our joint venture when we were in our late teen levels and our story began there we began groupig all the time and building a real strong team. An elven healer and a elven paladin we had something good going and developed a plan of what we wanted to accomplish and set goals one of which was to join justice and eventually that worked out to be,we were going to be a husband and wife team. All the time we were doing some decent rp and were leveling(thank you tenaka) and all this time she indicated that things were fine and she was happy with the way things were working out. Then the bombshell dropped one night after she logged on and i went to greet her. She informed me we needed to have an OOC talk at which time she informed me that she had a very serious RL crisis, and that she had to leave the realms and that if things got worked out she would be back. Needless to say Equinox was shattered but accepted what he was told and began suffering his loss.Than all of a sudden 3 weeks latter after various Khylandrah sightings i find out that she had lied to me and had come back as another character almost immediately after telling me her sob story. I do know her new pc but have not used this info in the realm and do not intend to tell who her new character is, i guess the point of what i am trying to make after this long story is to me this is very POOR POOR rp, am i off base with this or am i right to be pissed off about being used and lied to.i am sory for the lenght of this message but i have grown tired of being asked what happened to or when will or where is Khylandrah and and all anwsers will be appreciated thanks.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 8:30 AM

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Sorry to here this

by Dyren

Nothing hurts more than losing a loved one.
Maybe sometime i can take you out for a drink, on me.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 8:43 AM

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not what i wanted

by

..my main reason for this is ooc not ic i want to know if this was a bad rp on her part.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 9:03 AM

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Here's a Theory

by Anonymous

I am not her, btw.

Let's say she (or he - if it was a guy player), was into the RP during the romance, but after the culmination of the wedding, they then felt like the interesting part of the story was over. After that, the striving for the marriage goal had been achieved. Lots of times, courtships are more exciting in real life than the day to day maintenance of a marriage. In real life, the maffiage is real. But here, it's a RP game where everyone's trying to escape into situations that excite and interest them.

I suspect that K started feeling this way - constrained or whatever, knew that E wanted to keep going with the marriage, and was trying not to hurt his feelings by saying that RL interfered. Being up front would have been better, but not everyone who lives much of their lives in a fantasy world as we do is good at confronting uncomfortable situations if they can escape from them instead.

If this theory is true - maybe K really did care about E in that way, if not in such a way as to want to continue RPing the couple.

I think you guys need to have a truly honest OOC discussion to get past the hard feelings. K owes you an OOC apology for not being up front. As for RP - I think the wedding was a big event, much talked about - the whole RP up to that point obviously was successful. If things have ended here - well, at least you can still say it was a success to that point.

(And, besides, she could be a fat bearded guy anyway.)

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 10:56 AM

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not really

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.. equinox and khylandrahhad a lot of hours in before the wedding some where 0ver 200 i think so it wasn't a let down after wedding as i stated i was never told the reason why just feed a mushroom's diet....bullshit

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 5:14 PM

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Anony's got a point...

by Anon

Equinox,

What you gotta understand is that Khy is probably some 5'4" 250lb guy(involved in computer programming and wearing a beard), with taco cheese stains all over the soiled, pit-stained wife beater that he is wearing. He is _not_, i repeat not, as he is leading you to believe, a fair Elven princess with breasts the size of volleyballs, long golden hair down to his/her ass, and good looks which would cause most mortals to faint. If you saw Khy on the street in "real life",(although if you're getting married on a MUD who knows what your "real life" means to you), you would probably be more afraid that Khy would ask you for spare change, or possibly proposition you in order to work for food. So don't sweat it, you had your bit of RP fun...real life got in the way. Khy obviously wanted to play another char because the RP got a bit too intense for him. Hell, who wants to marry someone knowing they are a guy anyways?? You two could do an episode of Jerry Springer or something, that's about all that could have come of it.
Then again, Elves always seem like the type that would bat for both teams soooooooo.....

Posted on Mar 20, 1999, 8:48 AM

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Maybe Khy meant little to her for some reason.

by Magenta

I don't know, maybe some people create characters that they don't care about. I personally don't really understand that philosophy, my RP's are very important to me, as is everybody I befriend through my character. I guess maybe she could have gotten impatient, as I know that no one was around to induct you guys to Justice for so long, or maybe the role wasn't as important to her as she led you to believe. As for her lying to you I don't understand that except that perhaps she wanted a new start. But to answer your question, yes you have a right to be pissed off, but you also have to keep in mind that anybody can do this and would lie and use you, because you don't really know them, only the character they portray. It's sad to say, but you really can't put your trust in people without getting that risk of being used. It's just something they will eventually prove over time, or else they will use you and leave. It's a poor way to RP in my opinion, especially for a 'GOOD' character.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 10:29 AM

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Not everybody is cold-hearted

by Laura


Although I am Evil and would not hesitate to kill an enemy on sight (while lvling) I would never betray You Equinox. Nor do anything to hurt you. You can trust me. You may choose not to, but I would never leave you. I despise Khylandrah for her actions. :)

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 11:15 AM

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Ooops!!! What was I smokin!!

by Laura

Where I said (while living) I meant
(while in town)
Sorry about that ;)

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 12:31 PM

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thanks magenta

by

...thank you i respect you greatl and appreciate your honest answer and to tll you that Khylandrah walked away from justice she was all ready to be guiled but turned it down.


Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 5:19 PM

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Well, you probably weren't good enough in bed..

by -Hyperion-

I mean, isn't that what every wife really wants? She probably lied to you and is now having an affair with drizztt. damn those elf maidens, they're too horny for their own good. :P

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 11:09 AM

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

by Laura


I find that whole speech amusing!
hehehehehehe.
elf maidens.......hmph!

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 11:11 AM

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I wish to ease your pain.

by Laura


That sounds like very bad rp on her part. I think something happend to her that fried her mind. hehe.
I wish to ease your pain. It hurts me to see you suffer. If there's anything I can do, let me know. anything *wink*
As for you, Khylandrah, the one that causes Equinox grief, you shall be punished. I don't know how, seeing how Stryth banned the place where I usually am on at. I won't be on as much, but it's only a minor set back. Actually I will be on almost as much, It will only be a slight difference. You won't even notice :)
Anything *wink*

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 11:10 AM

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don't trust her.

by Miruan

C'mon, is obvious she's just usiong you for some evil means. PRobably to get you to fall in love with you so that she can crush you and break your heart again. I wouldn't trust her, even if she wasn't evil.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 1:37 PM

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the dark side of the force

by

..remember even the great jedi knight darth vader was seduced by the dark side of the force.....

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 5:23 PM

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uh...

by anonymous

it doesn't really matter, but darth vader turned to the good in the end=)

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 6:23 PM

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The truth...

by

...wow I randomly found this just googling my old toons name and did not realize that it was this serious. Its many years after the fact and I don’t know if anyone will ever receive this message.

I had a lot of Fun in abandoned realms. However playing an elven healer at the beginning was a lot of fun. As the time went on it was not so much fun. It really just became repetitive.

Just before the wedding I was PK’ed and all of my stuff was taken and getting all the stuff back over and over again with a character who I had designed never to really participate in PK was not looking fun.

During the wedding I was given some wonderful gifts in an attempt to help replace the items that I had lost.

During the wedding I was also assassinated by Mogu which is something that I will ever forget. I don’t think he could have timed it better had he planned it.

I had also had a run in with some Illusionist who found it fun to keep charming me and having me attack the guild masters so I would die and have a HUGE amount of exp to level. This being my first mud at the time I did not know some of the stuff that I later learned that would have prevented the cheap use of Charm that he was using to kill me over and over.

I will say now that yes I did leave to play a different toon. Equinox I hurt your feelings then really I am sorry. However I figured it was easier than trying to explain to you that I was switching toons after we had accomplished so much together. Apparently I choose wrong. We did have a blaze and with Tenaka we did a lot of stuff. However I seriously doubt that you know which toon I played after Khylandrah. Again I am really sorry but I did not want to play her anymore.

I had a lot of good times on Abandoned Realms.

Thank you all.

Khylandrah
Elven-Healer


Posted on Jul 12, 2006, 2:40 PM

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Old Times~New Times

by

As you probally know I was just deleted the other day. I have taken a couple day break from Abandoned since then. Then I come on with a new character and I see what this MUD has become. I never really noticed this till now. With my lowbie I start walking to MS and I get PK'ed. Some moron starts calling me an asshole and threatens to kill my character from con loss. As I walked around the city I could here many screams of being attacked by group pk'ers. In the first few month of this game I can not recall having to put up with some newbie lipping me off. In the first few months I could log on and sit in my guild for a few minutes and not worry about being pk'ed by a group of level 45 duergar shaman's that are 12 year old punks. And they have killed me like 6 times in the past. Talk about bad RPlaying skills. Now a bunch of hackers are trying to hack this MUD. And the truth is that I really dont care if they suceed or not. This MUD has had a major downfall for a few months. I understand that the IMM's are trying to fix these errors but realizing that the more they try and fix them the more they screw up the mud(no offense) For example the new healing rules, now there is some bullshit about having to follow you to get a heal. And the healers now a day I have noticed seem to be less and less RPlay and more and more Powerlevel , Slaying evils ect. ect. You cant even count on them to heal you anymore. I remember the healer by the name of Elendiel. Did not attempt to PK anyone nor attempt to fight back. That is what I saw a a true DEFFENSIVE cleric. Plus even her roleplay was great , more than I could put past of many of you newbies. I'll admit it now , I have healed evils in the past and it not bother me. Just under the fact that they wouldnt pk with my magic still resting upon them. Then one day I had to listen to some serious bullshit about breaking some PK rule or something. That was one of the things in this MUD that I believe has brought some disturbing attitudes to AR.

And roleplaying , How do you expect us to RP when every body else doesnt. It is kind of hard to RP to when even the IMM's themselves dont roleplay. They just kind of sit there and scream at you play tag with you call you a moron ect. ect.
I can remeber when I first started this MUD and I actually had some fun being able to play it. Now I can't even put up with lowbies anymore.
Oh well I have other MUD's I can play/make. This mud has given me some fun but until this MUD cleans up its act I am going to stop playing AR. I now realize that I have wasted 8 months playing a game that is not even half decent.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 7:57 AM

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Response...

by Paige

Obsidian, I agree with some of your complaints, and without mentioning names, I think you did a pretty good job of getting your point across. But look, lowbies get killed off if thay can't RP well. At the upper levels, sure there's alot of PK going on, my people are pretty good (mature, if you will) about it.

Even people like those level 45 Shamans you talk about are very professional RP'ers. Yes, I have been attacked by them, too. But it's all in the name of RP. I'm a Healer, and Coven's Squire, which basically makes me have a big bullseye painted on me! =P

I guess the bottom line is, if your sick of people killing you, go on the offensive. That or be VERY defensive. If your sick of the yells, ignore them. If someone tells your something stupid, ignore it. Nothing/no one can bother you unless you LET it/them bother you.

*grin* And besides, I was with you and Candra when we attacked Xayvourales and Joboyogi. *grin* So don't EVEN tell me you're against Healers PKing. =P

Paige

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 10:28 AM

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gimme a break

by smartass

up until last week, the only thing i had ever seen you do was request from diana and give the plat eq to a lowbie who logged on while you had request lag. i saw this on multiple occaisions so i assumed this was your only purpose.

btw, i killed you a few times when you had that lag... hehe. then last week, i saw that you had actually ranked some and were hanging out w/ coven, etc. so i killed you yet again. anyway, i never thought much of your rp.

as for all of your insults of newbies, i still consider you a newbie. you cannot avoid pks, you have shit eq, and you just generally suck.

i would have kept this to myself if you didn't make all those comments but now i felt the need.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 1:39 PM

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You Stupid Dork

by Someone who knows.

Obsidian been level 44 for months now. And I know he wouldnt even touch that platinum crap. You probally havent even killed him, You probally dont even exist! All you little lowbies are Tool's you know that?

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 2:46 PM

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oh really?

by smartass

ask him which duergar dk bashed him to death while beating him down with an icy blue dagger through his barrier right in front of candra, coven, niktoo, and the captain of the guards in solace (who did more dam than obsidian btw)

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 10:43 PM

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smaterass

by Anonymous

Been suspecting for a while now, at least I Know I was right when I thought smartass=blackstaff big surprise, all you ever do is fuck up the mud.

Posted on Mar 20, 1999, 5:51 AM

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blackstaff=/smartass

by very smart

=/ means not equal to

Posted on Mar 21, 1999, 8:10 PM

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Yep everybody snaps one day ; )

by Person

Even Obsidian,


Posted on Mar 20, 1999, 1:06 PM

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this sucks

by Doesn't matter (Rastlin)


I started this game about 1 mounth ago, i've invested alot of my time into this game. Now my characters may not be in a very high level but I don't see how this is fair, just because some asshole mouths off a immortal (stryth) he bans everybody from this game. I don't even know the person who did it and I don't care. I think that you shouldn't ban everybody just because one person is a loser. If I could ask Stryth one Question it would be "Why do you have your head shoved so far up your ass?"

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 7:54 AM

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tact

by Predlestines

tact.

Tact is very helpfull in trying to persued someone else. Namecalling is seldom effective, in fact it usually makes the problem worse. Where as you may be thinking something like, "Styrth, why don't you shove your head up your ass" the more tactfull thing to do would be to prepare an actuall thought out argument and present it as respectfully as possible. Saying things like that get you no where in the real world--even in the business world--and likewise, they shouldn't get you anywhere on the mud.

pred

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 10:27 AM

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smile bigboy

by Rastlin


Oh I'm so terribaly sorry that I upset you. With that letter you wrote you showed me the light. How stupid I was, What was I thinking? Now I'm going to go out and be a all-around good guy. I would like to thank you personaly. Anytime now you can pull up your huggys and look at this mud. It's gone down hill for a long time and banning alot of people just because of one retard makes me mad. I wasted alot of time on this mud just to be abused because of a loser. I hope you understand my crappy aditude right now and don't take this message personaly.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 10:41 AM

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bow

by Carman (the all around warrior good guy)


I would have to agree I think that Stryth has done some bad things but for the most part he is a good imm. I would hope to see that us people that use the computers at the University will be able to come here and play this Mud in the near future
he has baned this site because of a idoit that was telling him off. I don't think that we should be punished for that. I have done nothing wrong, please, please, please let me play again.

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actually...

by -Hyperion-

I really doubt stryth actually has the time, or the patience to come and read the forums on a regular basis. In fact, with all this name calling and childness shit going on, i doubt he even cares about it. But lets get one thing straight. The pissed off immortal syndrome has kicked in. He thinks that banning and deleteing characters is gunna help mud, but it's really not. People will just get smart, play off other sites and break the rules on purpose because he pissed them off. Even with muds that have gods as dictators, people get really pissed at their unfairness and start to fuck around. Remember all the spamming some kid was doing in seringale? And how they had to impliment not having yells till like level 3?.. shit like that is gunna happen more and more. Until everyone figures out that it isn't worth playing the mud anymore or they will act like adults and deal with the shit.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 11:15 AM

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More actually..

by sondisapoint

Overreaching and pissed off immortal syndrome is like cutting off your nose to spite your face. it does more harm to the MUD than good, if you're expecting people to come play and only to find themselves banned as news players with no cause they're probably gonna think to themselves I'll just find someplace else rather than how can I get around this ban to play this game I know nothing about.

Acting out petulantly or childishly only gets you further in trouble no matter what side of the coin you're on be it staff of a business or mud or a consumer or customer.

Posted on Jan 11, 2014, 1:16 PM

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God damnit Stryth don't rain on my parade!

by Anonymous


Just because one fag mouths you off doesn't mean you have to bann the rest of us ROLEPLAYING people!

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 7:42 AM

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What are you doing!

by Laura


Stryth, there's no need to ban all of us because of one's own actions. We did nothing. There isn't really a point in banning all of us. Espesially those of us that ROLEPLAY. I am one of the ones that suffers because you decided to get rid of one brat by wiping us all out. If you ask people like equinox or hellion, they will tell you I roleplay. I'm on the brink of doing some really cool stuff
Please, Please don't take that away from me.
I know how Vixa and them got special privilages. Please let me share those. I DO roleplay. I always have. So please don't do this to me. If you let me back on you won't regret it, I'm not one to cause trouble with the immortals. Or Gods.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 7:28 AM

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zMUD

by Mr. Cheapo

I have zMUD, and I despise the stupid trial thing...if anyone has a registered version, can they help me out by providing a reg #? Thanks...

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 4:14 AM

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An useful tip

by Fremen

Get a 4.x version from zMUD website and use 5.x keygen (can get it at astalavista.box.sk, search for zMUD)

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 7:54 AM

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One last try...

by Hmm...

Well I said last time that it would be the last try but I guess I can't make up my mind =). Here it is. Last chance only, actually I'd like Mr. Old Bastard to come here. He knows what he's talking about and I enjoy his posts, but here it is. The Mature Abandoned Realms Forum at

http://www.netbabbler.com/goto?forumid=15292

If I don't have 125 visitors, (I've got a counter) by the end of the week then I guess I'd just delete it.. Its already at 75 so I only need 50 hits to it. Oh well, I'll just leave you guys here to bitch some more and tell everyone that they all have small penises.

Posted on Mar 18, 1999, 11:11 PM

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Keep the other forum. All non-idiots switch...

by Stryth Reporter

There's some good activity going on there.

Plus - any new Stryth Reports will be posted on that forum only (until Stryth visits it, then maybe I can retire).

Maybe I've become psychically linked to Stryth in my efforts to track him, but I tell ya - I'm sick of this forum too.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 5:32 AM

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Stryth is the only hope for this MUD.

by Miruan

All you annoying brats who say Stryth is so bad need to shut up and leave this MUD. You know why you don't like him? Because he's trying the hardest he possibly can to get rid of you. And do you know why? Its because of people like you who have ruined what once was a great mud. So you have a choice, start role-playing, stop acting like 12 year olds, and stop PKing everywhere, or leave. Don't just sit and bitch, none of this is Stryth faults, and I really doubt he likes acting like an ass-hole, you brought this about.

Posted on Mar 18, 1999, 9:52 PM

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Umm maybe you are Stryth.

by Mordomus

I think stryth is an ok guy, but he has done quite a few things to tick me off.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 8:50 AM

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What exactly?

by Tired of the Crap

What exactly has Stryth done to tick you off? Maybe it was starting a MUD for you to play FOR FREE? Maybe it was paying out of his own pocket for a sight to put a MUD that you can play FOR FREE. Maybe it was putting a lot of time and effort into making changes and improving a MUD which you get to play FOR FREE. Is my point coming across? He puts in everything and you just get to play and enjoy. So how about backing off and giving Stryth some gratitude and backing? You guys obviously enjoy playing(Lord knows you've been told enough that we don't mind if you leave), cause you're still around. So show a little support and maturity. And by the way, Thanks Stryth and all the other IMMs who put in their time(again FOR FREE) to make this a place we can all enjoy.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 11:14 AM

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Bah, what's this for free shit?

by -Hyperion-

Ok, you might be used to this pay mud shit, but in actuallity, there are hundreds of muds that are for free. All you need is a server, some room, and access to run the mud code (diku, smaug, ect.). Once you have that, the HARD part is to customize it. It doesn't come with cabals, zones (besides the stock ones), mobs, items, ect. ect. ect. That's where all the work goes. You wanna see a mud that's extreemly huge with a user base of like 1000+?.. goto sojourn. sojourn.toril.org 9999.. that's a huge non-pk mud. It's for free too, not like it's worth mentioning that it's for free. If stryth feels like paying $30 a month to have it on kharduin, that's his perogative. There are probably places that he can have it on for free, but they're probably a lot less stable. And $30 bucks a month is nothing. If you work like, 5 hours min wage, that's $30. One word to stryth, the mud should be fun, not annoying. If you don't like it, just kill it.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 11:25 AM

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by Tired of the Crap

And if YOU don't like it, just go somewhere else. Sure, maybe Stryth could have put it on a free site. But like you said, they are probably less stable. You think it's bad now, imagine the bitching if the damn thing was crashing all the time, with people getting set back all the time. That's exactly what I'm talking about, Stryth decided to spend the money to have it stable, and puts in the time to make it better, and you still get to play for FREE. I'm not saying that other MUDs aren't free, I'm just saying you have no room to bitch, when you really put nothing into the MUD other than just playing and enjoying.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 12:31 PM

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bah

by -Hyperion-

ok, i'm sorry, but you remind me of some idiot who likes to type in caps to get his point across. In anycase, I didn't mean that it would be less stable in crashes and whatnot, I meant that since it's for free, it could go down and he'd have to move the site. It would just be a pain in the ass for him. And yes, people very much do have a right to bitch and complain when they don't like things. Sure i can go to another mud. Sure, I can start my own mud, which i might very well do. But to say just because he pays/owns and codes the mud, that i don't have any rights is just totally off. How do you think changes got to be? because people complained, it's called feedback, and for every good thing, there's usually corrections that had to be made. All these bitches screaming about stryth, they're all idiots. If i say something like, the god's attitudes lately are fucking annoying and they should find out what's up their asses, I have every right to say that. I mean, they tell us to roleplay, but they also write notes in which they say they're angry at all the users, that stryth is gunna squeeze on people's balls and whatnot, that's just out of line. Deleting characters, baning sites, that's also out of line. People worked very hard on some of them and to just delete that on a whim because you're pissed off is wrong. Don't tell me that it's their right. If they were at all sensible, they would ask the person to stop or give them a warning, take away their eq, lower their level, ect. Not delete and ban. Of course they're too dimwitted to see the logic in that. But whatever, i digress. Muds that aren't free are the exception to the rule. Muds should be fun and entertaining, not a hassle to play and to administer. They're taking their role as imms a bit too far, thinking too highly of themselves. That's where they get in trouble.

-Hyperion

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 1:08 PM

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Yep Your Stryth

by Mordomus

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Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 1:11 PM

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by smartass

"But to say just because he pays/owns and codes the mud, that i don't have any rights is just totally off" HELLO!?!? You have no right to use this mud. Stryth is not obligated to listen to bitching either. You have NO rights on here. The mud is the intellectual property of the imms, imps, builders, and those who did the stock coding. The server is on a private company and Stryth enters into a rental contract with them for memory, bandwidth, service, etc. with them. That's it! You are not even involved. You simply happen to benefit from it because you found the site. You have no rights here. It is generous of the imms to do the job they do. You're gettin' something for nothing so just shut up!

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 1:21 PM

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heh, that's where your wrong

by -Hyperion-

see, the site is open to the general public. That's where i get my rights from. If it was only for certain people and i got access (aka, if it was private) then i would have no rights and that would be final. Besides, the rights i'm talking about are the ones to complain. Everyone has that right about everything, unless you're in fucking cuba, china or someother ass backwards country. If i don't like what i see, then i will damn well speak my mind. If you don't like it, please, feel free to tell me what you think. That's what this forum was created and meant to do. I know what the deal is. Stryth practically owns the mud, so what? I give kudos to him for providing me with entertainment, but i don't care for his attitude lately. simple as that.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 1:48 PM

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by smartass

this site is not "open to the general public". as a privately owned 'organization' (wish they would come up with legal terms more suitable to net), he has the right to exclude anyone he wants. No gays in Boy Scouts, No dumbasses on mud. Simply as that.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 11:58 PM

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Your rights as players.

by Burzuk

You're partially right, but mostly wrong about how changes came to be. Changes are implemented mostly because of the Imms -- for example, the new cabal Assassins isn't from player feedback. The spells and skills for monks aren't from player feedback. To be perfectly fair, the Imms are the most responsible for the changes that happen on the mud, not the players.

Having said that, bug-fixing and play-balance issues ARE partially determined from player feedback. However, as you will note, we as the Imms are the ones that decide whether what you say has merit, and we are the ones who will choose whether to act on or ignore what you have said. If you think the job of Imms on the muds is to cater to every player's whims, good luck on finding a mud like that. We do, and we will continue to do, what we believe to be best for the mud, whether it's by punishing people who are out of line or by implementing new things. It's the Imms that keeps everything straight, so that the mortals can do their things and create their memorable roles, feared killers, or whatever.

Lastly, if you believe the Imms on AR to be acting out of line, then you're free to find another mud. We do our best to answer player concerns here on the forum, and we do read every note written to Immortal even if we don't respond to them, but we realize that we can't make everyone happy. AR might not be for you. But if you think you're pretty special in that you can mouth off the Imms and complain when you get punished for it, then you're just not being realistic. The people who disrespect the Imms are the same people who disrespect the rules that the Imms have made. If you think you can do better than we could, you're free to start your own mud. That's how AR was started, and it has grown considerably since its beginning because obviously we're doing at least a few things right. Good luck to you if you are willing to try the same thing, because I'm sure you'll hear these sorts of complaints from your own players as well.

Burzuk

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 1:29 PM

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heh, stop adding stuff that i didn't say

by -Hyperion-

yeah, this post would of been nice if you had actually read what i had posted. I didn't say all of the mud's new code was due to the players. All the ideas didn't come from the players. That's being stupid assuming that. I never said that the imms have to cater to anything. But please, go read the last couple of notes to all from stryth and zafrin. He's practically yelling at the players in general instead of the ones that actually cause him trouble. Besides, like you've said before, you're a level 51 imm. Your job is to answer questions and read stuff. Stryth and zafrin have been the ones doing the coding. I don't think that you've done much of it yourself, though i could be totally off. I don't think i myself would do as good of a job as stryth has been. But cut the hostility. You should know as well as i know, that without the players, a mud isn't a mud. It's the player interaction which makes it what it is. Sure the imms set the rules, code it and keep it running, but players are a very important part. Just try and remember that next time you guys write a message to all saying that everyone's an idiot and you're gunna ban anyone who makes a mistake, ect. ect.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 1:59 PM

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Actually, I addressed that already, but let me clarify.

by Burzuk

You said that the changes come from players. I said that the changes come from the Imms. Again, we have the forum and note to Immortal so that we can take feedback from players, but credit should be given where it's due -- to the high level Imms like Stryth. The bottom line is, a bunch of good players on a crap mud still makes a crap mud. It's the Imms who truly make the mud what it is.

As for the players, if you do something wrong on the mud, you've put yourself at the mercy of the Imms. If the Imms decide to take action to slay/deny/ban you, then you've obviously done something wrong to deserve it. You might think the punishment doesn't fit the crime, but unfortunately the Imms are the only judge and jury when it comes to punishments. Our rules are clearly described in HELP RULES, HELP ROLE-PLAYING, HELP PK, and the notes and MOTD. Of course we value our players (and that's why I'm here replying right now), but I know the Imms, especially the higher Imms, won't stand for people telling them what they should/shouldn't or can/can't do, especially from someone about to get busted for breaking a rule. When you are in the wrong, you really have no right to complain about how we choose to punish you, unless we come out of nowhere and slay/deny you just for fun when you've done nothing wrong.

It's a two way street. The more you disrespect the Imms and try to tell them how to do their job, the more they will come down harder on you for whatever it is you did wrong. Unless you fall into this catagory, I personally think we've taken a lot more steps than we needed to in listening to addressing mortal concerns and the such. We could totally ignore the forum, for example, but because we value player feedback we try our best to answer all of the legitimate concerns on the forum.

Again, Stryth and Zafrin doesn't write notes just for their health, they write them to warn you guys not to abuse the system. They do it to address the concerns of those who have had good reason to complain because of some of the immature players we have. If they're grouchy or irritated, you can probably figure out why by looking at what you've done to cause them to be that way. No Imm writes things just antagonize their players for no reason.

Burzuk

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 3:18 PM

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Again you add things..

by -Hyperion-

I don't fit the description of the normal rule breaker. I've only been in trouble once. I don't tell the imms what they can and what they can't do. I'm just saying i don't like their attitude to the general users who don't break rules. Like i said, read the last couple of notes to all. It's to everyone. Whatever are in them should be saved to the players who are a problem. Not to the general public. I don't like being treated or addressed like that at all, and i'm just stating that.

Posted on Mar 19, 1999, 3:53 PM

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So you must deserve it if the imm punishes you?

by Hahaha nope

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/half-of-us-prison-sex-crimes-involve-staff-toward-inmates-fed-study

just because you're in an authority position DOES NOT mean everything you could ever do is right, morally or ethically speaking, even if you have the final say and your word is law.

See, this is a kind of might-makes-right attitude. In other words, your might makes your decisions right even when they're wrong, because who oversees you if you're the top of the imm chain? Noone.

Actually believing that kind of egocentric self-talk is what kills muds, not one or two misbehaving people that may actually deserve punishment.

You don't have the right to have people play your MUD just as much as they don't have the right to complain. Give a little, give a little.

Posted on Jan 31, 2014, 7:53 PM

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Deep Thoughts

by Jack Handy

Are all original imm's gone insane because of all the stress? Sur ehtey did a good job but they have all seemed to snap and go crazy eg. Azonere,Stryth. this has been depp thoughts by Jack Handy

Posted on Mar 18, 1999, 8:26 PM

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final thoughts

by Slayer of Hope

It amazes me what will be said when no harm shall come to you for saying it. An annonymous forum is a great thing. But, unfortunately, most the people still posting here have decided to abuse annonymity. I guess if the only way you people can feel good about yourselves or feel tough is by acting like assholes here, more power to you. Nobody important reads this forum anymore... Except for a couple of the Imms, and it looks like they're gettin' sick of it, too.
Old Bastard was right on with just about all of his posts... The Imms are doing a damn good job. Don't really understand why you think saying that is ass-kissing, since he wasn't using the name of any of his characters, so he had nothing to gain from it. You people, on the other hand, are just pathetic. Grow up.
I got nothin' else to say. At least not on this forum.

Posted on Mar 18, 1999, 8:19 PM

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