Hi every1,
I would like to know which colour was used to paint her funnel bases. I´ve seen different colours on several models (light grey, grey, brown, white) and I wonder if that colour was changed during her career (perhaps differences in her trooping-, cruising- or hospital-appearance?).
Any answer appreciated,
Cheers, Olaf
Hi every1,
are there any pics of Maury´s/Lusy´s funnel tops? I´ve no idea how to fix these 1/600 yawning holes...
Pics of the Gunze funnels would also be very helpful - if Gunze Sangyo did them accurate... Some time ago I´ve seen a Gunze Lusy with the same funnel top configuration like the Minicraft Titanic. Right or wrong?
Any help appreciated,
thanks in advance,
Olaf
Hi Olaf ,
contact me at my email adress , I have the John Brown's plans of RMS Lusitania at home , I can scan the funnel rigging view for you , if you wish so , but I have no idea if the rigging of Maury's funnels was identical to Lucy's ...
Hi Guys:
So far as I can tell, Mauretania's funnel bases were painted brown as were the deckhouse skylights on the top of house. I don't think this changed thoughout her career. Of course, black and white photography has limitations so far as colour interpretation goes, but it would seem that the shades of grey around the funnel bases matches the "grey" of the deckhouses. I have consulted the various books I have on the subject and haven't noticed any variation.
I know that the Gunze version of the Lusitania has the funnel tops braced by two bars across the top as opposed to Titanic's three. It is likely Mauretania had a similar configuration, but I cannot say with any certainty. I can check the funnel rigging for you: I have the Shipbuilder reprint of the Cunard QSTS Mauretania from 1907.
Cheers,
Mike M.
so as I´m building a HMHS-Maury with white deckhouses I´ve painted the funnel bases grey - looks quite good. Repainting them in brown would be no problem - perhaps I´ll test it at one of the four bases.
Funnel tops:
I remember a top view of Lusy or Maury but I´ve no idea were I saw it. Would be nice to know if the Gunze kit is correct. Next week I´ll have a look at this kit at my local hobby store.
Thanks again for your help,
Regards, Olaf
Hi Olaf:
I have since had an opportunity to check out the Shipbuilder edition of the Mauretania and can say with accuracy that the funnel tops had two transverse braces across their ellipses. (There is a picture of the funnels being assembled in the yard and in the foreground is a large metal ellipse with the two transverse braces.) Given the black-on-black nature of paint & soot and the fact that there are very few photos taken at an elevation above the funnel tops, they are very hard to notice - they may have rested slightly recessed in the funnel caps.
Another point about the funnel rigging is that all the funnel stays seem to have been anchored to the roof of the deckhouse along the outer edge - although there may have been a pair of stays that tied down to the bridge house. This differs from Lusitania where half of the funnel stays (namely, the upper ones) were anchored to the boat deck.
Cheers,
Mike M.
As far as I've been able to tell, her deckhouses (most of them, anyway) were painted white at least on her maiden voyage. I chose this scheme when examining a photo of Maury in the book "The Only Way to Cross". I suspect that her deckhouses were painted brown later, possibly because of problems with soot.
As for the funnel bases, I've heard brown (and tend to agree with it,) but also gray, at least on her maiden voyage. It's worth researching, anyway.
The points of attachment for the funnel stays up on the funnels themselves was the same on both ships. The BIG difference is where the stays attached on the decks below: On the MAURY the funnel stays attached to the outer edges of the Sun Deck, while on the LUCY, the funnel stays attached to the edges of the Boat Deck below, which gave the deck a "cluttered" appearance compared to that of the MAURY. The LUCY was completed first, so I am certain that Cunard ordered the change to have the funnel guys attached out of the way on the deck above, which also meant shorter stays, which presumeably were stronger. I'm sure that on the LUCY, the stays had to be carefully places so they would not interfere with the lifeboats; on the MAURY, this was not an issue since the stays were limited to the Sun Deck above. Pictures of both liners clearly show the difference. Pete
When you look at any photo's of the Boat Deck and Sun Deck areas on both ships, notice that all the funnel stays are terminated at the deck attachment points with two pulleys and a large spring; these devices allowed for the "working" of the funnel stays and the ship as it moved through the sea as well as allowing for thermal expansion and contraction of the guy cables themselves. On the LUCY, these spring-loaded ends are all on the Boat Deck, while on the MAURY they're all at the edges of the Sun Deck. Pete
it´s great to hear (eeh, see) others opinions. As for the funnel bases I think I´ll leave them grey. (´cause I´ve no idea which hue of brown I should use...LOL).
Thanks also for the info about the two crossing bracings inside the funnel tops - now a pic of it would be great - to see the correct location (more fwd, more aft or in the middle across the funnel opening).
Best Regards, Olaf