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February 9 2009 at 6:56 PM
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It is inoperative. Is that ongoing or is it temporary? I wanted to verify that a C6PF-H carb was a parts counter, one size fits all replacement.

I hate it when people mis-represent what they have for sale. If it is in fact a parts counter replacement, then I suppose someone could say that it was for a given model and not be held to account.

 
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I found it listed

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February 14 2009, 2:10 PM 

as a 66 Mustang 289 carb here http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Kford.htm

and a 64-66 352 carb here http://www.carburetion.com/Kits/ford.htm

I cant get to the Master Parts Catalog now, but I'm sure Bill or Ed will be along soon.

 
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I found the same..

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February 20 2009, 10:00 PM 

So i'm not really sure what is correct.

Ed Jenkins

Ford Galaxie Club of America member #3350
1966 Galaxie 500 Convertible built in Chicago Illinois, will have a stroker 390( 429 cid?). 780 Holley?, built C6, Crites Aluminum radiator, and a rust free frame from the south. Work continues.

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C6PF-H

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February 20 2009, 8:27 AM 

Aahhhh, our old favorite.....

YES and NO, how about that, YES the C6PF-H is a ford factory replacement carburetor, You can tell that by the P in the part number, and in fact this carb was available at the FORD dealerships thru the mid 70's (and in some cases longer) as a DIRECT FACTORY REPLACEMENT FOR THE FORD 4100.

The EXACT carburetor it was based on is the 1966 Fairlane GT 390 California emissions carb, if you look at all of the available specs these two carbs are identical.
And in fact the C6PF-H is a 1.08 California emission carburetor.

Now for the NO part of the answer.....

As you can see if you compare a 1966 Fairlane with a 390, to the entire rest of FORD's line that they ever installed a 4100 carburetor on then that mid-size fairlane is probably pretty middle of the road as far as weight and probably a pretty good compromise. Now the engine a 390 california emission is probably not the best comromise but all things considered probably the best choice out there especially when you consider it from all the possible 4100 carbs out there and remember there are at least 4 to 1 (or more)in the favor of big block 4100 cars (1.12 carbs).

But now we get into reality, most people these days who are looking for 4100's are looking to install them onto a small block mustang, if we looks again at the entire line-up of 4100 cars you can see that is at one extreme end of the spectrum and if we consider the C6PF-H carburetor a compromise carburetor at best then now you can see the problem.

The other big problem is this particular part number (Because it was a factory replacement for so long) there are a HUGE amount of this particualr part numbe out there, and most people get confused with the 1.08 and the california emission portion and think its a regular 1.08.

Yep, It really gets me upset when people who should know misrepresent something they are selling in order to make it "more valuable" but then they way automotive cross references work it is easy for them to get away with that.

You type in or look up 4100 carbs especially the C6PF-H and they list for all applications Small blocks, FE's everything that ever had a 4100 on it, A little bit of common sense and part number knowledge quickly dispells the myths however.
I know people Poo-poo me when I start talking about physics but it comes down to real world the ideal carburetor for a mustang 289 is not the same animal as a 390 thunderbird, AND FORD KNEW THIS WELL.

My feelings about this carb: "When you try to be everything for everyone, you end up being nothing for nobody" I have had some of the hardest time getting carbs to behave using this particualr carb and usuallly its in the extremes examples like I gave above.

Bill White
White Automotive
Bill White
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