wv

wv:I thought we were having a civil discussion here. Your response suggests to me that you realize you don’t have a satisfactory answer, and you are resorting to a personal attack to divert attention away from this fact. Either that or you feel threatened by what I posted. Just keep in mind that this is what I believe - I'm not trying to force it on you.

jon: sorry you didn't get that... it came from Job... you need to seek to discern between an attack and a little tongue in cheek. You are trying to be civil (?) "Obviously you don't understand this, and I am not sufficient to make it clear to you." Sounds more like you are not presenting your opinion... but you "know" you're right about it all, therefore I must be wrong. Let's see if we can find one single person who agrees with your theory... so far you have admitted that Bible Students of every hue cannot see what you see. can you see the humor in that?
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wv: Actually, according to the parallels presented by Bro. Russell in the second volume, 1881 is the year that the General Call ceased. This knowledge didn’t come from me, but from Bro. Russell - but I have verified this truth in my own studies. I assume your idea came from PSL Johnson.

jon: actually, he shows in volume 2 that this is a process that began in 1878 and ended in 1881 as to the closing of the general call. There were no begettals between these years... just a testing on the begotten... as the testing on them was part of the ending of the general call.

if it came from psl Johnson, then it wasn't my idea... he was appointed by Bro Russell... not by me. This all happened before he came in the truth. Bro Russell showed that the replacement process came beginning in 1881.

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wv: Well, I have already explained this. You still hold the mistaken idea that the Harvest and the Call of the New Creation are the same thing. They are not. Obviously you don't understand this, and I am not sufficient to make it clear to you. I know you follow PSL Johnson's teachings. That is your choice - I do not bear you any ill will.

jon: the call began in the beginning of the Gospel Age... in the Jewish Harvest... The Gospel Harvest is the end of the call... you have admitted the genereal call ended... the reaping ended... all by 1914... you are twisting the picture that shows the gathering of the grains in the harvest. There are other harvest works that took place in these last members after 1914, but it could not be done to any who weren't actually reaped. Reaping signifies a removal from ones former place of growth... the fields were white to harvest IN THE HARVEST... all who made the LF were already there. You were not even born. and by the way... yes, this is my opinion please chill