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| Youthful Worthies - How Can We Know Who They Are
August 30 2008 at 1:12 PM Bro. James (no login)
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Youthful Worthies—How Can We Know Who They Are.
"Question (1921)—How can we know who is a Youthful Worthy?— Answer: First we will answer with reference to those brethren who have consecrated since the Fall of 1914. Knowing from many reasons that spiritbegetting ceased by the Fall of 1914,
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Steam: Not even one scripture to prove this statement. Pastor Russell was alive in these years from 1914 thru 1916; Did he say that spirit begettal had ceased, that consecrations made then were not accepted? NO! This is a most blatant lie!
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we readily can know of all who have consecrated since that time that they could not be spirit-begotten; and that, therefore, their hopes lie in the direction of Youthful Worthiship.
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Steam: On the basis of what scripture please?
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With respect to those of them who consecrated since the general Call ceased in 1881 (F 156, 157), we cannot now be sure,
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Steam: He takes it back to 1881; Pastor Russell certainly never mentioned that spirit begettel had ceased in those years. That the Youthful Worthies were now in vogue. This is PSL's dream not reality. No scriptures given.
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though each individual by the various witnesses of the Spirit may be able to learn his position. It would not, however, at all surprise us, if there should arise a Youthful Worthies’ Movement, separating them from others.
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Steam: Now I wonder how he ever got that thought?
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If this should prove true, it would doubtless then become clear as to the Youthful Worthiship of all the unbegotten consecrated. ’21-78"
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Steam: Unbegotten consecrated? There is no such animal! If you make your consecration to God and are not accepted then you are not consecrated!
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Note that Bro. Johnson does not say anything about individuals from 1878...only from 1881. If you believe the "present view," then this quote does not make sense. For those who believe he had two views, please post an article where he explains why he changes his mind and when.
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Steam: Think of how this claim would affect the Truth Movement, the claim of no spirit begettel since 1878 or 1881; That means Pastor Russell's work was for naught. He was a false prophet, trying to bring people out of Babylon to nothing but lies. How can you people ignore these claims and buy into this ? Bible Students want scriptural support for any such claim as Johnson has made. He does not give one scripture! Go back to Russell and leave off reading Johnson forever! He was a false brother!
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