Re: Sister Kelly

"To consecrate one's self to the doing of God's will unto death, requires the giving of your earthly life right which was obtained by Jesus's death; as your ALL. That means you can not possibly be brought back to human life on planet earth. This would be true if accepted and spirit begotten."

I believe it is God who calls us and not the other way around. If God is calling us and not having multiple calls, then you are saying there is ONLY the heavenly call - door still open, this is the only way. Then, you are no different than any other church out there that only believes in heaven - heaven, heaven, and only heaven, as if God would just put everyone there in there and that's it. But, we know the Bible says the earth "abideth forever" Eccl. 1:4, and we also know that God will give us a body that pleases him.

God made the earth for mankind to live on. God has planned his government - with a hierarchy. "You are a chosen generation, a Royal Priesthood." 1 Peter 2:9 They are also "church of the firstborn" and "firstfurits" They will be rulers as noted quite clearly by "Royal Priesthood." Firstfruits implies afterfruits....others. Not everyone can be part of the heavenly calling, and why does everyone feel that they should. There are 144,000, "a Royal Priesthood" the "Little Flock" (implies other flocks), etc., etc. One of those is the "great multitude" which came out of the great tribulation. "Lo, a great multitude...which came out of great tribulation." Rev. 7:9 The time of trouble came in 1914 - the great tribulation, and this multitude was manifested. And there are other places in God's government. That's why Jesus tell us in John 14:2 - "In my Father's house are many mansions." - NIV says "many rooms." In Jehovah's Kingdom, there are many places - opportunites - not just one.

And...not everyone received spirit begettal.

And...what happens to mankind on earth if everyone who is "good" goes to heaven. Who rules on earth. Where is the rest of the company flow chart? Mankind who did not give their lives to God in this life will have no one to direct them? They're on their own. That is not logical. 2Pet. 3:13 "Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness." What does God define as new heavens and new earth - places where righteousness will dwell. Both places will have this. Mankind will have to learn righteousness and God must be developing some groups, some people, some authority in this life to work with mankind to bring about this change. And, how beautiful this change will be to all. One of my very favorite scriptures: Isa. 2:4 - "And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nations shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more." No more war. No more madness. Tools of war will be put aside for the use of good instead. "And God will wipe away all tears from their eyes." Rev. 21:4

Jesus ransomed everyone - EVERYONE from the Adamic death sentence. That's what he did. "As all in Adam die, even so all in Christ will be made alive," 1 Cor. 15:23. All will be brought back from the Adamic death state. Those running for the High Calling had a special calling as all the scriptures dealing with them suggest - they had an opportunity ahead of the world and ahead of those non elect callings.

So, no I not believe I am spirit begotten or am running for that High Calling - many of whom were so very persecuted. I would feel quite blessed, and thrilled in every sense of the word, if God felt I was worthy to help others on the earth in his Kingdom. I would feel honored. I don't have to wish for an honor that others had opportunity for. I am happy wherever God places me.

If you have never (and I know you are not) been a fan of Bro. Johnson - by far his best book (in my opinion), if you read no other - is The Millenium. Truly awesome. You see how God used word pictures to show us the structure of the Kingdome. Beautifully done. My favorite chapter - Old Testament Testimonies. Wonderful because so many Christians have no idea what to do with the Old Testament. NT is all about the Gospel of Christ and the call to the Church. OT is about the earthly Kingdom and the "restitution of all things." I have used so many scriptures from the OT about the earthly Kingdom - scriptures that they don't even know exist. And, I have Bro. Johnson to thank for that. Many people find him quirky to read and difficult and deep, but wow....some of his stuff is just wow. Just try that book if you never try another.