I agree, Also David should have made the announcement him self on Bnet and give us the real info. instead of that bull shite announcment that Total Blam Blam wrote.
it's not a health issue. If not, then DB certainly should have made a public announcement - maybe they were worried the ticket sales would drop - if they were then that's disgraceful.
Sound, sound the clarion - fill the fyffe - throughout the sensual world proclaim - one crowded hour of glorious life is worth an age without a name.
i hope not. i was a bit disturbed by the MOJO suggestion that David was near deaths door when he had a heat attack in 2003 and that doctors have told him never to tour again.
"and that doctors have told him never to tour again."
It doesn't actually say that, it says there are rumours going around that doctors have told him never to tour again.
It was always on the cards anyway, he's 60 and the most songs he's performed in one go since 2004 is three! You can't really expect him to go travelling around the world, stand on stage and sing for 90 minutes, 5 nights a week!
even though that is closer to where I am, but Bowie is not a lounge singer or Celine Dion. please.
but this thing, with the whole not going public bit, makes me very edgy. I don't care if you have to log in on BowieNet to read it, thanks to some cocnerned fans Speed of Life picked it up as well. Fans deserve an answer, especially because it's a travel situation.
Has Mr. Kinder made mention of anything? He's in good standing with the Bowie news circle.
Just fly boys...
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Vegas is no longer the 'Celine' type thing it used to be. Many artists have discovered that playing Vegas pays off...gains new fans and is very convenient. I don't wanna see him go all 'Fat Elvis' on us...but, he could do something.
I feel really bad for those who have booked hotels and/or flights ( Sommer 2004 back again ! ) or have got holidays "fixed".
Unbelievable the way the cancellation is done indeed ! Yet there WILL be a drop in the sales, who would want to travel there now, apart from those living in NY ?
Since three years BowieNet only brings bad news in laconic messages. It also denies rumors.
It would be about time we have some news from the sailor himself.
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Ehm! Excuse me, but Bowie has already played TWO shows in Vegas - at the Hard Rock. I know 'cos I was at the first of them, and a crap show it was an' all.
And I LIKE Tom Jones - cheesy but entertaining. Saw him years ago at RAH.
And as for "who would want to travel there now, apart from those living in NY ?" There are plenty of other artists playing this gig besides Bowie you know. Not that we know WHO yet! Much as we might like to think differently, some people actually prefer other artists to Bowie.
And much as I feel sorry for anyone who has already booked their flights, they really should know better since Bowie has a habit of changing his mind, and tickets are not even on sale yet.
This message has been edited by DearieMe on Jan 24, 2007 9:25 PM
To be honest i was upset when I read that bit in Mojo and thought they should have left that bit out. I said they 'suggest' I didn't say they stated as fact. Semantics possibly. But rumours or not I hope it isn't true and just hope Bowie keeps well
Don't want to be picky, but, the heart attack was in 2004.
:P
Anyway, my mom and I were going, and she is a fan, too, but she had this gut feeling that David wasn't going to perform. I also hope he's ok, health wise. You never know though. Maybe he was sicker then we know and his doctor/doctors really don't want him to risk having another one if he does tour again. He might be able to do three or fours songs and that's it.
We already know how information filters out and even then rumours abound. I hope more than anything that db is well.
I would prefer it if people could just be straight or else keep shtum until they have something definitive to say. I agree though, the cancellation info should have been made available to all fans as soon as poss.
The whole way this has been dealt with is very shifty. Not like Bowienet at all. Nobody seems to have any answers leaving us to speculate. This is shabby work by Bowienet. It reeks of deceit. ...
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Agree entirely. If it's "news" it's PUBLIC, so put the announcement where non-paying and paying fans, alike, can see it.
And . . . for the love of God, if you're going to bow out of something, have the grace and the dignity to hire someone who provides a PLAUSIBLE reason. If you don't, you look like you're grappling for excuses.
Saying he's doing "ongoing" work on a "new project" is self-contradictory, vague, and doesn't pass the smell test. It's like the ol' "I'm washing my hair that night" or "I've got a previous engagement" shtick you tell someone when you want to get out of doing something you have NO VALID REASON to get out of other than you'd just simply rather not be arsed to do it.
Now, I'm not saying Bowie has no valid reason. But the badly written explanation makes it SOUND as though he has no valid reason. I really do wonder who wrote that insincere piece of bollocks.
Look, I agree it's a bummer that there will be no Bowie gig, but it may wel be a question of health (let's hope not) and if that IS the case, then I think nothing is more important than that... no matter what blend of indignance and regret we may chose to greet the announcement with.
As to the way B'net released the news... unfortunate perhaps, but worthy of great shame? Methinx not. I mean let's ask ourselves....... how long was it there before we got wind? Eh, a day p'haps?, hours ?? There is plenty of crossover in membership there and posters here or wherever. Given db's recent health problems, I think it's undignified to be quite so churlish until all of the 'facts' emerge... and who knows what they may turn out to be?
Bowie didn't quit smoking after his heart attack, so he's effectively guaranteed he'll not recover fully and will deteriorate. Even if he doesn't care about himself, he should have quit for the sake of his family. His promotion of smoking has nettled me for a long time. We no longer live in an age where a blind eye can be turned to this kind of thing. We're not that innocent or gullible any more. Jones Senior died of a heart attack in his late fifties. This should have served as a memento mori. There's a limit to what expensive healthcare can do.
I've been trying to find that pic. Not here, because I know it was in a mag I didn't buy, but on the shelves of Asda and WHS. I couldn't find it, but I am fairly sure it was last month's Uncut.
of course he had already quit smoking by the time of his heart OP!
Either even already 2002, or at least half a year before the incident, as he later stated....
xSimone
PS: I think its odd too that they only announced it on the Bnet news members page....and i sure hope it´s not a health issue.
At least in November he really seemed absolutely fine....The health question now of course also crossed my mind last week after I read the news...but by now I guess it could really just be a project he´s working on...maybe a new CD which he thought would be finished by then, but maybe isn´t quite coming along as he thought...
Or whatever.
Gotta wait and see
Hm, about that Mojo thing...eeek. I sure hope that´s not what the doctors told him. Of course I would never expect him to make a big world tour again, but at least some small shows here and there...pretty puhhleeasse!
I agree, the cancellation should've been public news. Yes, information filters out eventually, but when you're dealing with people making travel plans, booking tickets, etc. you don't want to mess around too much.
A friend of mine had already scheduled the vacation time and now she can't change it. If we'd booked plane tickets like we were planning to do soon, we would've been out a chunk of money with the cancellation penalties.
I've got to agree that its DB's decision and he doesn't owe anyone an explanation but surely the news should have been accessible to all. A bad decision to make it exclusive I think by Bnet. I would of been well chuffed off if Id spent that amount of money on seeing the man to instead have a nice day out.
Just checked, it was about 25 minutes, I was having my supper.
I am sure TBB was not that pleased with having to give out the news, after all he is a fan too. The wording sounds like he just posted what was given to him. Why it wasn't made public, I cannot say, it is strange, but there you go. It was posted here 25 minutes later.
This isn't a nice episode, but everyone has to get past it. There are worse things that could happen. It is a shame for those who already booked, and I am sure that DB didn't make this decision lightly.
Well if I'd have been in charge not only would have the news been available but I would have tipped off people like Paul with the same announcement. At least give people a chance to flog their tickets and cancel transactions asap.
Then again its a fault. Like Ken I'm too good to people. LOL!
He did do those two [??]songs for his Wife [hard for Bats to write]
for that Children's Charity,,and how everyone said how good he looked
But I was a bit surprised how quiet it has been for his 60th..made a
BIG thing on his 50th..
And I do agree,,he really should tell the fans about his coming Concerts
I know there was a big write up about Bowie doing a concert in New Zealand
with Crowded House to welcome in the year 20000,,I started to save up,,but
that was a Fizzer,,,and nothing more was said ?????.
bats
maybe he's just psyching us out, then again it's a little early for any April Fool's pranks.
as irritating as the whole ordeal is, we should be keeping our head's above water. it's not just Bowie who makes these decisions remember- managers, coordinators, fellow workers, timing- I gaurentee that there was a butt load of factors that went into this.
yes, it was one of my new eyar's resolutions to stay/think positive, so I'd like to think we're all in for something amazing, and he's purposefully building tension.
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Well if it's true that the cancellation is due to 'ongoing work on a new project' then I think it's a good thing. I'd rather Bowie not perform this date and work on a new album (live dates would be sure to follow) than for the festival to be a one off performance. Still sad news though.
you know maybe we should go a little easier on blam blam. could be they are treating him like a mushroom too (keeping him in the dark and feeding him bullshit)
"you know maybe we should go a little easier on blam blam. could be they are treating him like a mushroom too (keeping him in the dark and feeding him bullshit"
Go on easy on him? LOL the guy is an idiot one reason why i left bnet. I still hope David will give us an up date within the next few days or weeks. Only good thing about this is tickets weren't on sale yet. Festivals don't give refunds cause the band you like pulled out.
Go on easy on him? LOL the guy is an idiot one reason why i left bnet.
Can you give us 2 really decent reasons why he's an idiot? Or is it just that you don't like him?
I've found him to be totally the opposite, unlike most others (fans) at Bnet. The lengths he has gone to for some fans that he doesn't even know is so far above and beyond the call of duty it's ridiculous.
And in regards to "Shame on bowienet" - couldn't agree more (for once, Ardent )
A friend here in Melbourne had almost booked flights and accom. Fancy not letting everyone know that - why is this one piece of Bowie news so "secret"?
well i admit i left b-net too......but just because $60 seemed a lot on my "starving artist" wage. especially when there was good info and even better people at BWW and B-ZONE. but blammo always seemed like a straight up guy to me. and BTW any of you that dont work for yourselves do you challenge your corporate masters or do you just shut up and take the check.people in glass houses etc etc....
Chris, I was at Bnet for a year and couldn't justify the $60 (at the time it was AUS$120 per year) so didn't hang around either for the same reasons as you (not the starving artist bit, but the other communities in free areas online bit).
Blammo was amazing while I was there but there is always so much petty bitching going on about him which is obvious that people are just jealous of his standing with Bowie. Deep down, most fans want to be in his shoes, but in reality - who would want to be when you see the flack he cops just by doing what he's told at his part-time work!
I work for a boss, I question him all the time. I'm renowned at work, at home (and online) for not sitting back and shutting up, but always wanting to know the reasons for everything
I don't think you are taking this seriously enough
January 25 2007, 11:22 AM
What do you mean by "25 minutes in the Dark" ?
It would have been a lot more than that, if not for the fact that some members here are silly enough to have a subscription to that steaming pile of dung.
Re: I don't think you are taking this seriously enough
January 25 2007, 12:14 PM
How can I possibly take it seriously ?
We are discussing news that is still under wraps ???
I mean...... 25 minutes is how long it took to reach this board via Pablo.
You cant have it both ways.......either its as worthless as a pile of dung OR there is news on there that you cannot bear to wait 25 minutes for and if that IS the case ......then perhaps it's time to get a subscription.
Re: I don't think you are taking this seriously enough
January 25 2007, 1:54 PM
Stop being silly.
It should simply be on the BowieNet News page, accesible for all, and yes, pressreleases should have been sent out so more media would have reported it.
Re: I don't think you are taking this seriously enough
January 25 2007, 5:11 PM
"Well to be honest I think quite a few people don't know,
after all if you're not an "online" Bowiefan, you miss this news."
Right, Ardent. I had quite a few friends who didn't know even after the leak, because they don't spend as much time online and when they do, they don't read this message board.
I've tried to alert the people I know who were planning on going, but no doubt there will be many who slip through the cracks with no public official announcement.
Re: I don't think you are taking this seriously enough
January 25 2007, 5:24 PM
I am not arguing with you, where have I said that it should be hidden?
It is on the news page here now, for people who don't visit the message board. It SHOULD be on the news page of Bnet. But everyone biting at each other here, on Bnet and presumably elsewhere isn't going to do any good. And until tickets for the event are on sale, it would be a bit previous to make bookings etc. After all, if the online community know barely anything about what is happening at Highline, the offline community are going to know even less. Don't you agree?
Re: I don't think you are taking this seriously enough
January 25 2007, 5:29 PM
No comment after the initial statement really. Reactions are like here, there are people who are angry, there are people who are resigned, there are people who are calling the ones who booked idiots, there are people who are saying Wow, isn't Bowie cute?
Re: I don't think you are taking this seriously enough
January 25 2007, 5:34 PM
Yes, it had, but when the silence coming out was deafening, I think I would have held out before putting money out for it. You cannot blame people who have booked flights etc, although I don't think that many have booked yet. After all, we are talking Bowie fans, always expect the unexpected and don't believe anything will happen until you have the album/tickets in your hands.
Re: I don't think you are taking this seriously enough
January 25 2007, 5:43 PM
Without Bowie playing, is there anyone else on the bill who's a big enough draw to attract people? Bowie maybe pulled out for a good reason, that the promoters were using him as a cash cow and for publicity because without him, it doesn't seem very appealing.
In fact now that I come to think about it, who actually announced that Bowie was playing? Was it Bowie, or was it the festival organisers?
It'll probably go ahead this year with the organisers taking a big loss, but I doubt it'll take place again next year.
Re: I don't think you are taking this seriously enough
January 25 2007, 7:22 PM
coughs Yes, well. Some of us are relatively new fans and got a little overexcited at the prospect of our first Bowie concert. :-}
I didn't book anything, but we were close because I like to have things planned out ahead of time. It makes me feel less nervous. And one person had to put in for her vacation time far in advance where she's employed, so she couldn't help but schedule that before more info was known about the festival or concert itself.
Just for the record, I'm not mad at Bowie or TBB, I just think the announcement could've been handled a wee bit better. Can't be helped now, I suppose. I'm gloomy, but resigned.
Maybe Mister Bowie wasn't given the creative leeway that he was promised at the outset of this l'il venture.
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Here, everbody! Email this guy and see what's up. david@davidbinderproductions.com He's the big cheese right?...............well ....If that email address still works. It did last June.
Hmmmmmmmm, I'm going to have to inform my NyC connection, yes , oh yes I will . (gigglin')
For those who booked a flight.. i wanted to go too but because it was a little Too expensive i not booked a flight. I do hope it's not is healt like i have read in some rumours
interesting that you say that about his healt, spidey. the mojo special really does make out that it was a major life-threatening incident, not just a 'scare'. what's really happening, i wonder?
If it is not made public, maybe is a rumour only?? Let's hope so!
Last year it seemed official news that David will PERFORM at the festival!
I am not a Bnet member, so I cannot verify all informations.
