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Station to Station colour cover - genuine vs counterfeit

January 29 2007 at 12:01 PM

Maarten  (Login mkwant)
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Courtesy of John Larkin (johnleonard on Bowienet) here is a very cool comparison of the genuine vs counterfeit colour Station to Station covers:

http://www.larkin.net.au/bowie/stsfcs/index.html

The original has much better colours IMHO.

 
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sunrise
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Re: Station to Station colour cover - genuine vs counterfeit

January 29 2007, 12:04 PM 



Nice one !!

 
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Stevee
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Yep ...

January 29 2007, 12:10 PM 

... and John has some gorgeous photos of Bowie onstage in Sydney on 25th November 1978 here.

 
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Re: Yep ...

January 29 2007, 4:54 PM 

Very nice pics indeed !

 
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Ray S
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Re: Station to Station colour cover - genuine vs counterfeit

January 29 2007, 12:10 PM 

Nice One Maarten, wouldn't knock back a counterfeit if I was offered one though.


 
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sonofsilence
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Station to Station colour cover - genuine vs counterfeit

January 29 2007, 12:20 PM 

But is the original RCA in black and white with a white boarder?

 
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Re: Station to Station colour cover - genuine vs counterfeit

January 29 2007, 12:21 PM 

Great find, Maarten. I was going to make a page discussing the STS colour sleeve, but I wouldn't have had access to these photographs, so it's great that someone has made this reference guide.

There's one thing that caught my eye, though. At the pic on the link below, you can clearly see ring wear on the sleeve, where the impression of the vinyl inside has been pressed to leave an impression on the sleeve.

As far as I've been able to find out, the original STS colour sleeves weren't glued together and therefore, didn't have any vinyl inside them.

http://www.larkin.net.au/bowie/stsfcs/source/sts_fc_03.html

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Re: Station to Station colour cover - genuine vs counterfeit

January 29 2007, 12:35 PM 

That was brilliant, great find, and so good to see a real copy of the colour sleeve. Well it confirms that mine is a counterfeit, but I always knew that. Such a difference in the colouration, the real one is so much richer.

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Re: Station to Station colour cover - genuine vs counterfeit

January 29 2007, 12:47 PM 

Well spotted! It could of course be that someone stored an album in the cover, or that the ringwear was caused by another album pressing against it.

 
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Re: Station to Station colour cover - genuine vs counterfeit

January 29 2007, 12:48 PM 

He mentions that it was stored with a UK promo copy inside it.

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Wonderful, merci!

January 29 2007, 12:41 PM 

It's a designer's delight comparing print. You'd think the counterfeit could've at least positioned the logo and credits in the right place?!

 
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Re: Wonderful, merci!

January 29 2007, 12:43 PM 

It's funny, I always thought they did a admirable job until I saw the original. I wonder what the colouring of the Ryko vinyl edition is like. I've never seen one in real life.

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Print is a funny old thang...

January 29 2007, 12:51 PM 

Colour can vary massively just based on the ink drying at different temperatures alone! Years ago I worked on a couple of Sade albums and what a faff it was to get the colour consistently the way she wanted it!

 
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Re: Print is a funny old thang...

January 29 2007, 12:54 PM 

If Sade was pronounced 'Shar-day', why weren't Slade pronounced 'Slar-day'?

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I thought they were?

January 29 2007, 1:03 PM 

I'm sure Leo knows the correct way though.

 
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No, Leo can't spell...........

January 29 2007, 1:18 PM 



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Re: No, Leo can't spell...........

January 29 2007, 2:28 PM 

Fascinating. Thanks Maarten

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Re: Station to Station colour cover - genuine vs counterfeit

January 29 2007, 4:52 PM 

Very cool Seems the original is more blue

 
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Re: Station to Station colour cover - genuine vs counterfeit

January 29 2007, 4:54 PM 

and there's nothing the counterfeiters can do.

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January 29 2007, 6:40 PM 

Interesting stuff!

Grant

no worries


 
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so which came first

January 29 2007, 6:45 PM 


RCA color or black and white?

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Re: so which came first

February 1 2007, 7:50 PM 

Hi,

John has asked me the post the following update here:

"This page started out as "a comparison of the RCA UK full colour Station To Station album sleeve with a counterfeit of the RCA USA full colour Station To Station sleeve". That site generated considerable and most enlightened debate on a number of message boards dedicated to the collecting of Bowie discs, etc.

Based on those discussions I have learnt that it was inappropriate to call the "genuine item" a record sleeve. It is a 24" x 12" mock-up. It was not glued. It was produced in the UK. If I may be so bold to quote one of the respondents. "It was never issued in a color sleeve. There's only USA proofs and a UK mock-up ( i.e. 24" x 12" card). There were no completed glued up sleeves made." So it seems to me that I am fortunate enough to possess a 24" x 12" UK mock-up. I purchased this mock-up in Manchester from a record dealer and Bowie collector during the mid 1980's. It came with a test pressing of the album. I purchased the counterfeit copy from the same gentleman during the late 1980's.

Regards, John."

 
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Re: so which came first

February 1 2007, 8:04 PM 

Maarten, ask them if you can post the entire thing here and see if we can get a discussion going on it.

Coloured Vinyl STS discs??

How many people have heard of them?

Ask if you can copy the thread here and start a new thread. If you don't do it, I'll ask them.

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