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Some questions about db releases

June 3 2009 at 10:47 AM
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First, I am aware of the super duper discog at bassmans site, but I have a few quick questions about Bowie releases. It will probably be less painful to just ask people who have the knowledge off-hand.

1.Let's Dance, Tonight, Never Let Me Down...have these CDs ever been released with bonus tracks (Too Dizzy doesn't count!) I suspect some Japanese issue ones have been, but just wondering if they got a ryko-style treatment at some point.

2. I know that uk editions of tm1 came with a bonus track (bus stop live country version), but did tm2 ever have anything extra on it? and oy vey for that matter?

3.buddha of suburbia seems to have 10 tracks regardless of which cover it has. any release with an extra track?

4. apart from resequencing the shows and adding a couple of tracks do the new editions of david live and stage have everything on them, that the ryko ones did? in other words are these the definitive editions?

5. black tie cd editions generally have 3 bonus tracks, are these all included on the multi-disc version with remixes?

thanks for your help!

 
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sonofsilence
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June 3 2009, 11:02 AM 

1. yes they did but the selection was sooo dull and lazy.

Let's Dance had Under Pressure only.
Tongight had - Absolute Beginners, This is Not America and When the World Falls Down.
NLMD had Julie and Girls (I think)

These came out around mid 90's sometime. TM1 came out the same time with Bus Stop live as you mentioned.

2. TM2 to this date has not seen the light of day since it's initial release. Though a couple of tracks have appeared on the S+V boxset.
Oh Vey Baby - well thats history aswell.

3. no bonus tracks

4. Stage has moon of alabama and live has band intro and here today gone tomorrow. They are not definitive by any means. Where as the newer re-releases of them are (well that's debatable too)

5. yes they are.

 
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June 3 2009, 11:02 AM 



1. Yes the Virgin reissues from around 95 had bonus tracks.

Let's Dance - Under Pressure
Tonight - This Is Not America, Absolute Beginners, As The World Falls Down
NLMD - Julie, Girls, When The Wind Blows

2. TM2 has an uncreadited track in the form of an instrumental edit of "Hammerhead"

3. No album release with extra tracks

4. Yes the new editions have everything the old one's had plus more. Note that the "Band Intro" from the original David Live is now just incorporated into one of the songs.

5. The Jump They Say (Alternate Mix) is NOT found in the 2-disc edition.


BTW, check out the Illustrated db Discography:

http://www.illustrated-db-discography.nl/



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June 3 2009, 11:05 AM 

And it's worth noting that the video issue of Oh Vey Baby contained a complete and different gig to the CD.

 
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June 3 2009, 11:03 AM 

1. Yes, Virgin reissued them with bonus track around 1995. Not really rare stuff, but non album tracks from the respective eras (Under Pressure, Absolute Beginners, etc..).

Although, NLMD has Julie & Girls (but omits Too DIzzy). Someone here was thinking of selling their copies.



2. TM2 has an unlisted edit of Hammerhead tagged on at the end, otherwise no bonus tracks that I'm aware of.



3. No



4a- the newest version of Stage has the original running order, enhanced sound, the bonus track Alabama Song from the 1992 Ryko / EMi reissue & the new bonus tracks, Stay & Be My WIfe. So it's the definitive version.


4.b - David Live? The 1990 Ryko / EMi reissue has 2 bonus tracks over the original, Time & Here Today, Gone Tomorrow. The 2005 Emi reissue has the same tracks, but like Stage, it also has improved sound and the original running order.





5. Don't know, but it sounds like you need to consult the db releases oracle:

http://www.illustrated-db-discography.nl/
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EDIT, 3 answers done at the same time, hah, don't I look stoopid!



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June 3 2009, 11:04 AM 

1

Yes
lets's dance had cat people and under pressure as bonus
Never let me down had Girls, julie and When the wind blows as bonus tracks
And tonight, can't remember happy.gif

2. no

3. no

4. yes

5. yes


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June 3 2009, 11:20 AM 

Even better than Bassman ishttp://www.illustrated-db-discography.nl

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wokwokwok
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June 3 2009, 11:39 AM 

thanks for the help, should have remembered illustrated discog, but it was still good to have a few pieces of the puzzle illuminated upon

 
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June 3 2009, 12:00 PM 

. apart from resequencing the shows and adding a couple of tracks do the new editions of david live and stage have everything on them, that the ryko ones did? in other words are these the definitive editions?

David Live is now a definitive release, but even tho there was room, STAGE still omitted Rebel Rebel.
Great sound on both those releases now btw !

Love On.
Craig

 
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anonymous
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June 3 2009, 12:49 PM 

I'm still irked by the sequencing on the new David Live. I only listen to the Ryko one.

 
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June 3 2009, 3:44 PM 

I prefer the Ryko one too!

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A bit off-subject...

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June 3 2009, 7:58 PM 

...but I just jumped over tohttp://www.illustrated-db-discography.nl/ and noticed that our man had been on Top Gear a couple of times, in '67 and '68. I watch the show as it is now, but what was it like then? Did they make him drive a cheap car around their test track and mock him?

It was definitely murder - but was it art?

 
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ROCKET MICK
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Top gear

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June 3 2009, 8:14 PM 

was a RADIO programme back in the 60's....

 
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Baal
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June 3 2009, 8:24 PM 

Priceless!

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June 3 2009, 8:40 PM 

Good one Em!

Wonder how Bowie would do in the 'star in the reasonably priced car'?

Hope he wouldn't lose it round Gambon...

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Always crashing in the SaMe car...

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June 3 2009, 8:44 PM 

i should coco........

 
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Some questions about db releases

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June 4 2009, 9:14 AM 

"5. black tie cd editions generally have 3 bonus tracks"

Which is the third, after Jump They Say (alt) and Lucy Can't Dance???

I don't have the vinyl so can't check.

PS Just checked Illustrated disc, so it was only the two I think?


    
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