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Should the Hacker Have got Extradition?

July 31 2009 at 11:03 AM
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I don't think he should have, the guy has Asperger's Syndrome and is mentally vunerable. His niavity didn't help sure. But I think the whole thing is a bit heavy handed and America flexing it's muscle. The ywill probably use his case as an example to all other hackers.

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July 31 2009, 12:15 PM 

They should offer him a job working for them the numpties. The last they should do with people like him is imprison them, instead use their skills for the forces of good. He gets a good job and they get his talents. Its typical 'might is right' mentality from the chest beating fucks in the Pentagon.

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July 31 2009, 12:18 PM 

Didn't he discover his condition once he got caught?

Haven't really followed it so I don't really know.

I tended to ignore this once I knew Sting's wife had jumped on the bandwagon.

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July 31 2009, 11:27 PM 

Asperger's Syndrome doesn't usually affect peoples' ability to tell right from wrong. It makes it hard to read faces and non-verbal cues, making socializing hard.
I think that a lot of computer obsessives (like my late husband) and practically all the animators have at least a mild case, but people who have it tend to be very honest. So that argument smells like bollocks.

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July 31 2009, 11:29 PM 

He should have been fisted up the chuff...!

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August 1 2009, 2:34 AM 

That's your view Em. Knowing someone who has Aspergers I can see how easily they are led. Appoint yourself judge, jury and executioner why don't you?

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August 1 2009, 4:58 AM 

That's a good point (the husband used to enter every sweepstakes that came to the door) but if he had the condition to that debilitating a degree, shouldn't he have been supervised?

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August 1 2009, 5:16 AM 

I can see why the US are keen to get this guy to court, they don't want their military files hacked, but I can also see this guy was just looking for satellites.

It's a tricky one, they'll want to make an example of him and give him a custodial sentence as a warning to other would be hackers, yet sending this guy to prison just because his curiosity exposed their online security flaws seems very wrong.

Hopefully, they'll just ban him from ever entering the US.

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August 1 2009, 11:57 AM 

Well I know nothing about Aspergers but my immediate reaction was - if he is intelligent enough to be able to hack into the Pentagon or whatever, he must be intelligent enough to know he should not be doing it??? ?

 
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August 1 2009, 12:43 PM 

Asperger's has nothing to do with intelligence AJ. It's an autism spectrum disorder usually typified by an inability to correctly socially interact.
Many people are capable of exceptional achievements in their life. Its more about emotional difficulties which result from reduced empathy.

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What's he gulity of?

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August 1 2009, 2:20 PM 

Showing these American twat's that they have a serious flaw in their "security" systems.
Why were American military computers accessable via the internet?
They don't have to be.

If he did cause 487,000 pounds worth of damage (I don't belive it) then 487,000 pounds to highlight a serious security flaw is cheap at half the price.

Typical bloody Americans, misusing a law, the law was intended for terrorists, which he clearly isn't.

"if he had the condition to that debilitating a degree, shouldn't he have been supervised?"
You can't go back in time, Em, we should be protecting him now.

Of course he should not be extradited.

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August 1 2009, 7:15 PM 

That's another good question. A lot of hackers break into very secure databases just to see if they can, and they don't necessarily do anything with any information they collect - they're a rather competitive bunch.

Convicted hackers also frequently get subsequent jobs in computer security. Steve Wozniak was a notorious phone hacker way back when.

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August 1 2009, 7:32 PM 

I always start a Saturday night off, 8pm, by trying to hack into various accounts of various subjects ..... alas by 8.30pm, its back to youporn and BWW happy.gif

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August 1 2009, 8:35 PM 

Someone in an I.T. department once asked the husband: "Are you a hacker, or are you a CRACKER?" It was sort of equivalent to: "Are you a good witch or a bad witch?" He was quite skilled at breaking and entering, my boy was, but he used it for Good...and a necessary (and frequently enjoyable) part of his job.

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