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August 28 2009 at 6:37 PM

Hubert Toejam  (Login Fantastic_Voyage)

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My view is simple really.

The man who is accused of her kidnap fell in love with her and has actually cared for her.
He housed her in a beautiful landscaped garden in California and even gave her the wonderful gift of children.
Unlike most kidnappers who enslave their victims or even drug them and use them as prostitutes this guy gave her a life, clothes and food.

It is a love story and she should be grateful for his love and adoration.

She could have met a wife-beating drunk who abused her daily.

This guy sounds a lot like Softvinyl, I mean that sincerely.


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Re: Kidnap victim

August 28 2009, 7:29 PM 

Jaycee Lee Dugard: How her garden prison' was
hidden from outside world.

To the outside world, Jaycee Lee Dugard's garden prison seemed like any other suburban backyard in Antioch, California, but the true horror had been carefully hidden.

The second backyard, at the rear of convicted sex offender Phillip Craig Garridos garden, was concealed from neighbours behind a series of fences, sheds and tents.

It could only be reached through a piece of tarpaulin, which had been innocently hung, while trees and shrubs made it near invisible.


The backyard compound had electricity from extension cords and a rudimentary toilet and shower, "as if you were camping", police said.

Police also found hidden in the backyard a car that matched a description originally given of the vehicle driven by Miss Dugard's kidnappers.

Miss Duggard had been kept in the backyard compound, where at least one of the structures was soundproofed, since she was snatched from her school bus stop back in 1991, when she was 11.

Miss Duggard, now 29, lived there with Garrido a 58-year-old registered sex offender and religious fanatic, who lived in the house with his wife Nancy, 54 and his mother.

She was discovered after a chance encounter between police and Garrido, who has a string of offenses dating back to 1971 and was a registered sex offender on parole in California.

Police said her captors kept Miss Dugard, and her two daughters, aged 11 and 15, that she allegedly had with Garrido, in a "backyard within a backyard".

It was shielded from the outside world and protected them from the outside world," said Fred Kollar, El Dorado County undersheriff.

"The tents and outhouses in the backyard were placed in a strategic arrangement to inhibit outside viewing and to isolate the victims from outside contact.

"It is like she has been camping for the past 18 years.

He added: (Miss Duggard) was in good health, but living in a backyard for the past 18 years does take its toll.

Authorities have been forced to defend their handling of the case after it emerged they visited the home on several occasions because Garrido was on the local sex offenders registry and even searched the backyard.

Local reports also suggested that police had been told about the hidden backyard before.

Neighbour Erika Pratt said that two years ago, she called police after seeing what looked like a living compound with tents and sheds.

"I always wished someone could do something about it," she told the San Francisco Chronicle.

"It was like he was charging people to live there."

A local sheriff's spokesman Jimmy Lee confirmed to the paper that his agency had dealt with Garrido before, but he was not able to provide details.

"We need to investigate it further to determine what that contact was," he said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6094769/Jaycee-Lee-Dugard-How-her-garden-prison-was-hidden-from-outside-world.html



 
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Eggburt Thomas
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Re: Kidnap victim

August 29 2009, 4:21 PM 

~religious fanatic~


Creepy!

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Re: Kidnap victim

August 28 2009, 7:35 PM 

Your f**ked in the head!!

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Ignore them Nick

August 28 2009, 7:37 PM 

It does sound like the worlds 'sickest' theme park!

BBQ on the go if you wanna pop over, bin full of beers on ice too.

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Nick
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Re: Kidnap victim

August 28 2009, 7:39 PM 

Obviously you are one of the morons that keep hiding under differant logins. You don't know me and you say things that are uncalled for. Have some respect. My kids often look on here and when they the kind of trash you morons write...it is disturbing. So, why don't you just quit hiding behind other names and have the balls to go one on one. Coward. (not you Sean)

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Sean
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Re: Kidnap victim

August 28 2009, 7:43 PM 

Goodness..I thought for moment!

There's a whopping lump of meat with your name on Nick, I will save it till you get here.

Don't eat en route now

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Nick
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Re: Kidnap victim

August 28 2009, 7:48 PM 

LOL. That's why i jumped back to edit that in. Didn't want you to think i put you in the...idiot, pathetic, moron, foolish, asshole, coward group!

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Sean
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Re: Kidnap victim

August 28 2009, 7:51 PM 

I am like you Nick...

A good Bowie fan and I only defend myself if people attack me.

All my scrapes on here have been due to morons having a go.

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Hope all is well your way.

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Em
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Re: Kidnap victim

August 28 2009, 7:48 PM 

Makes David Lynch look like Ron Howard, doesn't it?

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Re: Kidnap victim

August 28 2009, 7:51 PM 

That poor girl and her kids are going to be suffering the rest of their lives with mental issues.

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August 28 2009, 7:55 PM 

You can have a lot more normal an upbringing and still be scarred for life. An awful thing from the story was that the girl's stepfather actually saw her being taken, but all he had to pursue them was a mountain bike. So he's scarred too.

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Re: Kidnap victim

August 28 2009, 11:03 PM 

My view is simple really.

Hang the fucker.

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Re: Nibbler

August 28 2009, 11:15 PM 

--"My view is simple really.

Hang the fucker."


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Re: Nibbler

August 28 2009, 11:36 PM 

I love the bit that goes...

"like my dear departed friend used to say...
I used to want to change the world, now I just want to leave the room with a little dignity"

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August 28 2009, 11:48 PM 

Lotus Weinstock?

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August 28 2009, 11:37 PM 

Fantastic!

 
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Sean
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Sweety...!

August 28 2009, 11:40 PM 

you're fantastic..sexy...and...and...and

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Sean...

August 28 2009, 11:46 PM 

You know you're my favourite?! The ginger biscuits will prove it!

 
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Sean
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Re: Sean...

August 28 2009, 11:50 PM 

I shall ponder as I sleep with the happiest of chins

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methinks

August 29 2009, 1:03 AM 

I really think it's so tragic that Girl was robbed of her Life,family
friends,, etc
These Creeps do have a way of having a mental hold on their Victims and
the pain her Family endured,,even the Step-Father,,saw the kidnapp chased
them,he was even thought he did it,,and the rest of his life he still will
thinking ''I could have done something better to save her ..
And the Wife how could she I hope they spend the rest of their lives
in a Rat Infested Cell'.
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Re: methinks

August 30 2009, 10:15 AM 

He is a first class wacko and should be sat in the electric chair and force fed smashed prawns in a milky basket.

adios sexton splint

 
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August 30 2009, 10:37 AM 

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methinks

September 1 2009, 12:40 AM 

FV isn't that a great photo of Mr Spock,,a real looking SF Alien
no one hasn't really lived up to Dr Spock.
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Nick
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September 2 2009, 6:22 PM 

You can thank the deplorable and disgraceful liberally permissive American Judicial System! What this country needs is smash mouth discipline and a return to morals and values. I suggest a major overhaul of the judicial system which should be the NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

Toss all the pervs into Alcatraz, WITH NOT GUARDS. Let them fend for themselves, and IF they can swim through those waters, let them. If they stay, they will all die there, either by killing each other, or themselves. This country would be better off, either way.

Oh, if you are concerned about their well-being, drop them food, whenever needed.


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Bill" O'Reilly's number one fan

September 2 2009, 6:48 PM 

Still trying to provoke?

Liberalism is the only way forward for America.

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Go on Nick! have a jerk off!



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September 2 2009, 7:03 PM 

Blah, blah, blah. I'm not trying to provoke anything. This kidnapping mean ANYTHING to you??? I guess you are one that believes the guy should be slapped on the wrist and set free to do it AGAIN? I think you just like to debate with me and try to get me angry (which doesn't work because you are a MORON!).

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September 2 2009, 7:23 PM 

*I think you just like to debate with me and try to get me angry (which doesn't work because you are a MORON!).*


Still ranting on.


    
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September 2 2009, 7:24 PM 

Ignore em Nick.

Sticky toffee pudding on the go here if you are peckish!

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September 2 2009, 8:02 PM 

Sean, i just find it funny how the 'multiple login' people write such moronic shit. LOL. I just wonder how much shit they would talk if a kid of theirs was kidnapped and raped from a repeat offender. I'm sure they will reply to this with MORE moronic gibberish. LOL.

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Agreed Nick

September 2 2009, 8:11 PM 

It's sock puppetry most foul!

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Number one BIG MOUTH of the USA

September 2 2009, 8:36 PM 

You take on the feelings of her mother and stepfather?

What happened was terrible of course.

But we don't need your fake rightwing views plastered all over a Bowie forum.

Keep on topic Space Cowboy wink.gif

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Re: Number one BIG MOUTH of the USA

September 2 2009, 9:00 PM 

But we don't need your fake rightwing views plastered all over a Bowie forum.

Keep on topic Space Cowboy


Fake rightwing???? LOL!!!!!

And...i do believe that this thread is about the kidnap. Your a joke!

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Rightwing Moron

September 2 2009, 9:03 PM 

*Your a joke!*

It's you're.

And as for me being a joke! I think you need to looky in the mirror Piggy Princess.

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September 2 2009, 9:21 PM 

Piggy Princess?? And...you correcting my grammar just let us all know who you are....MORON! YOUR replies are always the same. Debate?? You don't even know how to debate. YOUR always ranting gibberish and avoiding my points by name calling and such.

YOU ARE A MORON !!!!!!

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Re: Number one BIG MOUTH of the USA

September 2 2009, 9:04 PM 

And...you STARTED this thread, moron! LOL!!!! Is the topic NOT the kidnapping?? Wow, multi login...you ARE a moron!

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September 2 2009, 9:15 PM 

It's called debate.

Now go to your crib and cry.

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Nick

September 2 2009, 8:41 PM 

are they TWers coming over here?

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September 2 2009, 8:43 PM 

PianoCraft (sam) is the culprit from TWatlife.

I wouldn't be a member of that place for all the nylon in Brentfords.

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Goodnight y'all

September 2 2009, 8:45 PM 

I am about to watch 'Demon In Lace'

old Kolchak episode.

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September 3 2009, 8:30 PM 

Good episode Sean.

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September 3 2009, 7:35 PM 

Jaycee Lee Dugard's aunt, Tina Dugard, says the family is reconnecting and renewing family bonds that she says have not been broken in the 18 years that Jaycee has been missing.

In a press conferene in Los Angeles, Tina Dugard read a three-minute prepared statement in which she said Jaycee and her two daughters are spending time with her mother, Terry Probyn, and her younger sister. They are at an undisclosed location. She said she spent several days with them also and they spent the time laughing and crying and getting to know each other. She said the smile on her sister Terry's face is "as wide as the sea."

Jaycee Dugard's daughters, 11 and 15, were allegedly fathered by the man now charged with her kidnapping, Phillip Garrido, 58.

"This is a joyful time for my family," she said. "We spent time sharing stories and getting to know each other again. Jaycee remembers all of us and she's enjoying getting to know her younger sister."

Jaycee's sister was a baby when she was kidnapped from her South Lake Tahoe neighborhood while walking to the school bus stop. Jaycee, now 29, was 11 when she was abducted.

Tina Dugard did not provide any details about Jaycee's captivity. She said Jaycee's daughters are bright, curious girls.

"Jaycee did a truly amazing job with them with the limited resources and education she had and we are so very proud of her," she said.

It's been a week since Jaycee Dugard and her daughters were discovered after the three walked into a northern California parole office with Garrido and his wife, Nancy. Police say Dugard was imprisoned since her abduction in a hidden squalid encampment of tents, sheds and outhouses in the backyard of Garrido's Antioch, Calif. home.

Phillip and Nancy Garrido, 54, have been charged with 29 counts, including rape, false imprisonment and kidnapping. They face a bail hearing on Sept. 14.



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September 3 2009, 9:45 PM 

"Phillip and Nancy Garrido, 54, have been charged with 29 counts, including rape, false imprisonment and kidnapping. They face a bail hearing on Sept. 14."

The phrase "you're doomed!" springs to mind. They had better not drop the soap in the shower for the rest of their lives.

 
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Re: Kidnap victim

September 3 2009, 9:48 PM 

Having 3 kids of my own, i can't stop thinking about this!!

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September 3 2009, 9:54 PM 

All those years locked away from the outside world. I don't know if its possible to de brainwash those kids

 
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Re: Kidnap victim

September 3 2009, 9:59 PM 

There's loads of stuff going on in the UK at the moment just as bad Nick.
All over the news at the moment is two kids who tortured two others, a little girl who was strangled by Mummy's boyfriend, two other lads planning a Columbine at their school and a psycho killing someone and eating their brain.

The World's gone mad!

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September 3 2009, 10:24 PM 

I'm unconvinced that people are less sane now than when they believed that if they formed a line and whipped themselves that God would take the plague away (tried it and Britney's still here!). We just get more news about it.

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September 3 2009, 10:40 PM 

There is the strange thing about schizophrenia not being half as prevalent in other cultures but then again that could be because its not being diagnosed?
Stress levels also rise in crowded cities but could that contribute to the madness in western society?

Look into it for us Em. wink.gif

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September 4 2009, 2:40 PM 

The aunt was on one of the morning news shows this morning. Glad to see the family welcome her back without a ton of questions and such. She may never speak about it...or she could tell her story and support other girls that have been through that type of horror!!

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September 4 2009, 4:20 PM 

The news reports are saying the kidnap victim is apologizing to everyone for bonding with her kidnapper. The neighbors are stating that during backyard get togethers the kidnap victim was seen happily horseplaying with her captors and seeming very comfortable.

 
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Re: Kidnap Victim

September 4 2009, 4:24 PM 

Is it called Stock Aitken and Waterman syndrome?

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September 4 2009, 4:29 PM 

I don't know but I was kidnapped by a ventriloquist once. I volunteered to be his dummy for 15 years.

 
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September 4 2009, 4:29 PM 

I hope he washed his hands Sam!

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September 4 2009, 6:55 PM 

> Is it called Stock Aitken and Waterman syndrome?

Seems to be. The paedo obviously told her he was "Never Gonna Give You Up".

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September 5 2009, 3:58 AM 

The guy should be tortured. People should be terrified of the punishment that will come to them if they commit these kinds of crimes. Also it's ridiculous the man only served 10 years of a prior sentence for rape. Legal systems in the western world have become far to kind to criminals. How can someone rape a woman for hours and be punished by having a home and food provided for them at no expense for 10 years? That's practically what prison is.

If torture isn't an option, I think rape and child molestation should be punishable by death. It'll never happen though. I'm just a hate mongering bigot who wants to protect women and children.


    
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Re: Kidnap Victim

September 5 2009, 4:09 AM 

Very well put!

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Re: Kidnap Victim

September 5 2009, 1:24 PM 

Aren't we supposed to be better than these people though?

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