Bought The Word mag before with the Bowie cover and feature inside.
Back in the day, Charles Shaar murray interviewed Bowie, and the journalist was wearing a t-shirt of a famous pop star of the day. Bowie looked at the t-shirt and said "He`s a CUNT, and one day ill tell you why"

This being 1973 i always wondered who this popstar was. I know i posed the question here a few years back, to see if anyone had any ideas who Bowie could possibly mean, and today, finally, Charles reveals it was indeed a pop star who is a right CUNT .... Elton John

Feel like a weight has ben lifted.
My guesses were always either Steve Harley or Rod Stewart.

Wonder why, even then, Bowie had the forsight to have Elton down as "a CUNT" ??

Love On.
Craig

a lot to do with Bowie's meeting with Elton at his home in LA in 1972.

Excellent work, Tony Day. I had kinda narrowed it down to being Elton John or Rod Stewart from the clues CSM gave in the 1993 Arena interview.

I guess you got the conclusive answer from the latest Word issue.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/8980/thread/1219103138/Who+Was+Bowie+Slagging+Off+Here+----

DocOck did tell you in August of last year that it was Elton John.

Actually I rather think that would make him an ARSEHOLE - not a C***

And in all respects, physically, emotionally - perhaps not intellectually - I believe he has proven himself (LOL)

If it was '73 it would've been due to Rocket Man.

LOL I forgot about this. I love Bowie and Elton, but even now when I hear "Rocket Man" the lyrics do remind me of something like this.. What makes the song for me are those dive-bombing/shooting star guitar licks and the melody.. I'll have to read up on whether or not there's some bad meeting at a party story or something. It's like anything, isn't it? A thin line between flattery and hate?

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andyrushworth (Login andyrushworth) Member. Re: the journalist had a t-shirt on with the face of a current pop-star August 19 2008, 11:57 AM ohttp://www.network54.com/Forum/8980/thread/1219103138/Who+Was+Bowie+Slagging+Off+Here+----

"In fairness i suspect Elton is the target , but he used to slag Bowie on a regular basis ! though having seen them chatting before the Freddie tribute gig , this is all in the past , and i suspect they just beg to differ musically and personally ?

Original, printed in full, because I was in the mood to be a respectful enough journalist wanna-be lol:

This is the big problem with being well known , i.e. people talking about some comment made some 34 years ago , i bet Bowie's cringing ?
In fairness i suspect Elton is the target , but he used to slag Bowie on a regular basis ! though having seen them chatting before the Freddie tribute gig , this is all in the past , and i suspect they just beg to differ musically and personally ?

Thanks andyrushworth. That makes a lot of sense what you said. Cheers.



gge

.....or a "fine line between pleasure and pain".............

Bowie has said he has remained close friends with lots of the people of that era who DON'T like his / he doesn't like THEIR music.

Yeah. I can see that. Especially after a few years pass and you grow out of this and into that.. Sobering up, the whole deal.

Don't understand why people are making up excuses. Elton is a cunt.
He is still the same bloke who a few years ago told a female journalist that he hoped "she develops cunt cancer".

He's fucking vile.

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Excellent news

I've also raised the "who could have he meant?" question a couple of times either here or at TW.

Now we just need Charles Shaar Murray's reason for wearing something as terrifying as an Elton John tshirt to begin with.

I trust Bowie's judgement.

is the magazine worth getting?

How many pages are there about DB?

I'm glad you found the answers. Cool that he finally told who it was!!!

Bettina

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arsehole

in yellow

10 page article of various journalist's recounting their encounters with Bowie. I found it quite insightful. Rather than the usual retelling of his career, it's more about his character. From what i've seen of Bowie being interviewed, they're bang on the money about a lot if things.

http://www.scottfullermusic.co.uk
http://www.myspace.com/scottfullermusic

I was just checking out your site there. I look forward to checking it all out more upon getting home from work. Thanks/take care,

gge

Charles Shaar Murray first interviewed Bowie in '72, not '73.

Can someone reprint the article here please?

sam

you need to have a months good behaviour here before we start doing you favours - you cheeky pip

I'd like to see it too, and I'm much more pedantic.
Still working on finding a copy in this country.

Don't look at the carpet

Reprint the article now! Or I will climb through your computer monitor like Samara Morgan. You have 7 days.

Bowie called it right....again

'A real life adventure, worth more than pieces of Gold'
http://www.myspace.com/spideyanddon

I'd say Mr. Bowie was remakably forbearing with Morrissey, who seems to have been so put out that Mr. Bowie wasn't opening for HIM. Were I to use the C-word to describe anyone, I might point to him.

Don't look at the carpet

Good.

This celebrity 'adopt a baby from the poor' malarkey should be stopped.

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He's too old!

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I was going to mention that Doc,it's all that madoggas fault.

Pity...motherhood might have steadied him.

Don't look at the carpet

It was an unusual thing for Bowie to say, but I think it has something to do with Gus Dudgeon, Marc Bolan, Tony Visconti, or 'Rocket Man'.

In fact, it might have something to do with all of them and Bowie's just focussed on Elton as his target at the time.

Mist.

I remember reading Elton was making comments to the press in the early seventies about Bowie and his drug use, much as he did later about George Michael.

I'm sure that didn't endear him to the mainman.

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I thought it might have been thus:

Gus Dudgeon produced the Space Oddity single, then went on to become the producer for Elton John and 'Rocket Man'

Tony Visconti produced the rest of the SO album but then chose to produce Marc Bolan over Bowie.

And.....Elton John played keyboards on a TOTP performance by Marc Bolan whom Bowie claimed later that his biggest rival was Marc Bolan.

In the middle of all this, is Elton John. He was getting all the breaks at the time, whilst Bowie was still struggling to get by until Ken Scott turned up and produced Bowies breakthrough albums which Elton and Marc Bolan then tried to emulate.

I have to agree with Bowie though. I think EJ is a cunt too, even after 30 or 40 odd years.

Mist.

As usual. Surely, this all has to do with the incident in Elton John's house in October or November 1972.

Nope. This has nothing to do with any incident in Elton Johns house in 1972. In fact, did Elton John actually have a house in 1972?

According to Bowie, they DID have a cup of tea in a rented bungalow in the grounds of the Beverley Wiltshire hotel in Hollywood where Bowie says he felt quite sorry for Elton John, left cordially after 30 odd minutes and went for a walk down Sunset Boulevard.

So if Bowie felt Elton John was a cunt, he would have had one of his entourage call Elton to inform him that Bowie was doing something and couldn't make it over for a cuppa.

These are the basic facts according to Bowie himself and before you say anything else, no, I'm not going to dig out the magazine and quote Bowie word for word just for your benefit.

Mist.

Of course I'm familiar with the meeting, the records piled up in the lounge etc.

I'm talking about when Bowie went to Elton's house.

That would have been after 1972 then, so it's been narrowed down. OK, we're discussing something which Bowie said roughly 35-40 years ago. A lot of water has passed under the bridge since then, that unless you were a fly on the wall at the time, it could well be a mish-mash of a quote or a misquote or indeed, artistic licence by the journalist.

Since Bowie said it to a journalist, then he, or someone else within Mainman must have been aware that it would be published somewhere, so the question for me is not what he said, but why he actually said it in the first place. Headline grabbing maybe, or as I said last night, maybe the Bolan/Visconti/Dudgeon triumverate?

Mist.

Rocket Man wouldn't that been a great song for Bowie to sing
All right I'm going though Withdrawals.
bats

Was this from the 'Bowie Experiment' interview from June 1973 for NME?
http://www.rocksbackpages.com/writer.html?WriterID=murray
as it's not listed here?
http://www.5years.com/articles.htm

N

All I can think to add is that if Bowie said 'one day I'll tell you why', it would seem to suggest the reason was not in the public domain, something Bowie assumes a rock journalist would not/could not already know. Just a thought.

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I remember reading in Buckley's book that Elton stormed out half way through the Rainbow show in disgust, claiming to anyone who would listen that Bowie had 'Blown it' and that he'd 'never mean anything anymore'.Ken Scott claims that at the time, Elton was at pains to keep his homosexuality a secret, so he was basically lambasting David for the overt sexual flamboyance of the Ziggy shows. It could have something to do with that.

Time takes a cigarette.....

Depends which interview CSM is recollecting. He did interview David after the second (or third?) Rainbow show, and Elton attended the first. So that's possible.

Thank the powers that be who stopped Elton John from adopting a child. He is, from what I can gather, an eogistic son of a (GOD KNOWS WHAT), hell bent on gettlng his own way. What's he gonna do with a child - teach him the true meaning Of "TRANTRUMS AND TIARAS" - for once someone with fame and fortune, talent - yet little else - has been denied their self indulgent desire. We all know money talks - particularly those of us who don't have it - for once, however, it has been shown that money doesn't talk bullshit.

I forgot to add - he's not a cunt - he's an arsehole - and cunts belong to women - not GAY MEN!!!!

Such language!!!

Straight to bed and NO supper for you

Elton John is a FAT UGLY cunt.

He certainly doesn't show well in yellow.

Do you remember your President Nixon?