Is there a mention of any music in the Bowie literature?
Apart from some versions of the Cleveland boot, I know of no other evidence that music was played (at least at some shows; no film in Paris apparently).
"Modern prints of the film feature a soundtrack consisting of excerpts from Richard Wagner's Liebestod, the concert version of the finale to his opera Tristan und Isolde, and a recording of the Argentinian tango "Ole guapa". This is the same soundtrack that Buñuel chose and played live on a phonograph during the original 1929 screening in Paris. They were first added to a print of the film in 1960 under Buñuel's supervision."
Can anyone confirm that it's "Ole guapa" on the Cleveland boot?
Maybe the version of the film projected was one with a soundtrack but not all venues had the facility to pipe the soundtrack through a house PA. This would have been a different system to the live PA - as demonstrated by the Boston '72 bootleg where Ode To Joy is heard in impeccable quality, followed by the live gig in lesser quality.
I am guessing that some nights it would have been possible to relay the sound as well as the vision of the film, and others it would have come across silently.
I do know that the band would wait backstage for the collective audience gasp during that scene, as their cue for five minutes to stage.
The Pixies haven't taken to showing that film before their shows. Unlike Bowie, they've projected scenes from the film before their shows as opposed to showing the entire thing.
"And when they rolled into Debaser, the opening track of the album proper, the room seemed to lift off the ground. Black, dressed in black, bawled out the lyric inspired by the Buñuel film Un chien andalou, scenes of which were shown before the band came on."
BTW, the bit about 'Black, dressed in black' is pretty funny. Are they referring to Black Francis, or Frank Black? If it's Black Francis, what would happen if he came out dressed as a Franciscan monk? That would be worth laughing at! He'd look like Friar Tuck!
Absolutely not. Never have and never will because I didn't like them first time around before they split, so why should I feel any differently about them now? Just because Bowie covered one of their songs? If that were the case, I'd be into Dinosaur Jnr because they were mentioned fairly frequently during interviews by both Bowie and Reeves when the first Tin Machine album came out, but apart from the single 'Freak Scene', I don't like their stuff either.
As I said, take it up with the Times/David Sinclair. He wrote and the Times published the review, not me. If they're publishing stuff nationally that isn't factual or correct, then it's them that you have issues with, so why not contact them and point out their error?
you're too mental, drunk and/or strung out on prescription drugs to face the outside world. Don't forget that.
But to get back to the original point, I have no interest in taking my case up with David Sinclair. I take issue with you, however. You are incorrect. And you have no basis for your argument other than a review which, as you wouldn't know because you *were not there*, does not tell the whole story.
Not for the first time, you have jumped into a conversation with ill-informed conjecture. Suggest you go back to your booze and stop worrying about the scary real world outside.
Barding, you are a complete fool. I copied a short passage of the most recent Pixies review from the Times and named the reviewer, yet you imagine that I was in the wrong? I have no idea of the circulation figures for the Times and have no idea how many people will read that review, but from where I'm sitting, it appears to me that you're right and the reviewer and readers are being fed the wrong information.
Again, if you have a problem with my post, then take the matter up with those who were at the show and who chose to publish the review and point out the error of their review to THEM because I honestly couldn't give two hoots about the Pixies, but I do have a copy of 'Un Chien Andalou', and that's where I came in because I've actually watched it.
I look forward to reading your version of events in the Times comments column in the morning .
So, the reviewer is indeed correct in saying that scenes from the movie were shown, but not the entire movie itself, which is exactly what I posted last night.
However, I am prepared to concede that you are correct and actually agree with you in that I'm not qualified to comment because as I explained last night, I wasn't at the show for my stated reasons.
I am qualified to comment on the review though, as is anyone else who reads it and your version is at odds with his review.
I read the comments at 9am this morning and there were only three posted. Even now, there are only 5 and not unsurprisingly, none of them are from you apart from your diatribe on this board.
Anyway IMO, the film in Bowie circles is only famous for the eyeball scene, which I don't find shocking, horrific, or even has artistic merit. It might have been shocking/horrific back in the day and without a doubt, Bowie used it to brilliant artistic effect in 1976 but truthfully, I'd take a Laurel and Hardy movie over a Bunuel/Dali movie anytime.
You are not qualified to comment. I have not commented on David's review because I do not take issue with it. In relation to the screening of the film before the show, his words do not tell the full story. But I do not have a problem with that.
You seem to have a problem with interpreting his words in any other way than your own, however. Is that a side effect of your drug abuse, alcoholism or violent behaviour, I wonder?
Barding, you talk so much shit! Sometimes it's laughable, sometimes it's annoying but ultimately, it's tiresome. You really don't have any comprehension of your own futility, do you?
Why don't you come to Marseille with Phil Glam? Oh, I forgot, it's easier sitting on your fat backside stirring things, telling lies about people in the desperate hope that people might actually believe what you say is gospel!!
IMO, you are BWWs version of Gary McKinnon.
Anyway, I don't have time for you just now. I have more important things to do before I go out, like take some drugs, get drunk and behave violently.
the tango music was definitely played at wembley and for some reason i can remember it almost note perfect to this day ... strange when i have virtually no memory of other things including a lot of detail about the actual shows...it is the same version that is on some of the prints on youtube.
I hope to get there one day if my dream comes true and I go back in time and follow Bowie around through his career.
I wouldn't change history but will have fun knowing his future!!!!!! Dam I'm awake now time for work....
only went to the one gig at wembley as i thought that you were only meant to see someone once in concert at the time little did i know. i was penpals, as they were in those days with a girl from london who went to all 6 nights and the victoria station welcoming db home . i didn..t take any photos as i didn..t have my camera with me although i have taken a few over the years but leave it to the profesionals now. we were right at the back in the cheap seats £2.75, from what i remember the sound was gt8 a giant speaker right high up in the middle of the venue, peeps dancing to fame and we had to leave early as the girl i was going out with at the time had an exam the next day and we had to get the last train home i had just turned 17. i remember the poster sellers posters all flew down the road for some reason and we managed to grab a few speaking with louie one night about the concert he too remembered the posters blowing down the road.i didn..t know him then, got the programme folded up. since got mint copies and a few copies of the recording. as we left after diamond dogs. the film was gt8 set the tone and the peeps dressed up as the duke , was good. i exchaged photos with the penpal and we lost touch after that haha. it was my 1st concert.but... not my last
Hi Sweety
Went to all six nights - alternated each night from cheap to expensive tix. Managed (by chance) to get 10th row on the final night !
Great memories
Stuart
I should've remembered you were there! Hope all is hunky dory with you? Please could you send me your email again at some point (to candydate@gmail.com)? Merci
i SO remember seeing that guy with the fur collar at the show !
i was quite impressed that he did not go the duke route and instead went for a literal interpretation of future legend.
i think i have told this story once before ... but hell it fits the thread so well.
for my first night at wembley (the second night of the run) five friends and i all chipped in and rented a giant daimler limousine. we were all dressed to the nines and our number also included a rather top notch duke lookalike named kenny bishop (also a young gary webb (later numan) if memory serves. when we got to wembley we decided to push our luck and drive around to the rear of the venue ... when we got to security we told the driver to say "bowie and his band" miraculously they let us through ! of course we could not actually get in the building that way so we went around front and enjoyed the show while the limo stayed out back.
after the show we all went to the back again got in the limo ... as we sped out through the gates kenny put the window down and started waving ... all of a sudden people started shouting "there's Bowie ! there's Bowie !" and within seconds there were people climbing all over the daimler trying to rip pieces off of it. it was quite terrifying and a small glimpse of what Bowie and his ilk must put up with all the time. we finally escaped but the car was scratched all over and someone had ripped the aerial off. we never got charged for the damage ... the next night it was back to travelling by tube.
i sometimes wonder if someone on one of the boards still has "Bowie's aerial" in a draw somewhere ...
Id be interested to know if the Fox stole, Billy Nevins is wearing, was inspired by Steve Harley, who wore a fox fur jacket for his TOTP appearance for Make Me Smile(Come Up And See Me)
since he had the shiny badge of sapphire and cracked emerald too (well a diamante version) i am thinking he was after a "ripping and re - wrapping shiny silver fox" kinda look.
"since he had the shiny badge of sapphire and cracked emerald too (well a diamante version) i am thinking he was after a "ripping and re - wrapping shiny silver fox" kinda look."
A young 16 year old kid from the sticks, dropped off outside Wembley by his Dad and Mum, nervously took his seat... tingling with excitement waiting for Bowie! The lights dimmed .... Un Chien Andolo .. then it happened ... the train slowly pulled away from the station. Its never got any better than this!
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