Hi, Much is being made on these boards about facism, homophobia, and the gay lifestyle. I would like to weigh in with my thoughts. This is a BWW editorial.
Does the gay lifestyle contribute to ill health and untimely demise? Yes, I feel it does. Here's why.
God is our creator. He knows us and understands us. When he says fornication is sinful and it is a sin against the body, he knows what he is talking about. Consider these analogies.
You purchase a beautiful Leica camera. The owner's manual says don't submerge it in water. You immerse it in water to clean it. Suddenly, the camera works no more. Or, consider this.
You purchase a nice Porsche. The manual says to change the oil. You don't change the oil for 100,000 miles. The engine freezes up. Why? Because you ignored the designer's instructions.
Guys, when you ignore the owner's manual you run into problems. Consider George Michael, Boy George, Elton John and Freddie Mercury. These men live in steadfast opposition. Suddenly, it catches up with them.
Thank you for allowing me to voice my opinion. I know you may not agree with me, but you will fight for my right to respectfully share my thoughts. This have been a BWW editorial.
What? Just asking what Sweety meant about her reply. I think the editorial is just asking for trouble...even though they have the right to express their opinion like everyone else (no matter how twisted it is...and it is!).
'You start out wrinkled and you cry...you end up wrinkled and you die.'
If you really believe in God you will know that the Bible is a record of God's acts. God did not create once and for all then cease: He is constantly re-creating men and women in Christ. In the Bible Sam we also learn that man is to be created as God's 'free subject', and that he is in fact in a state of rebellion against God, and how God deals with it.In a way therefore Sam, man with his pride is constantly trying to make himself equal with God, and is always frustrated by the fatal division in his own nature caused by sin.
God did not make a car or camera in his own image therefore your post is pointless and without substance. I am feeling that with most of your posts Sam
And on the forgotten, eleventh stone tablet carried down the mountain by Moses...
October 28 2009, 2:22 PM
...thou said that anything with a pulse is entitled to hump anything else with a pulse, gender regardless . In fact, did you know when The Red Sea was being parted, a pansexual orgy was occurring on the revealed sandy beds of the sea? It was really something. You should've been there! That, and in
Luke 24:44-45 it clearly states that if your old lady isn't around to copulate with you at a moment's notice, than to go ahead and suck the d*** of the guy right next to you; whether they're gay or not. You'd be surprised about the wrinkles and spaces that offer such open-mindedness in such an old relic as the Old Testament ! Jesus himself said, "Gays? Feel free to suck as much c*** and plug as much arse as you see fit. Do it for me: I couldn't do much of anything in my days seeing how I was nailed to the oak like a cheap tapestry on a tenement apartment wall. Everyone f*** each other and don't bother keeping score of the gender!"
This has been a BWW exclusive revelation (no pun intended )
LOL
gge
-"Since I'm going to Hell, bet ya $20.00 it looks like a Rob Zombie production ."
Re: And on the forgotten, eleventh stone tablet carried down the mountain by Moses...
October 28 2009, 4:23 PM
<< If you really believe in God you will know that the Bible is a record of God's acts. God did not create once and for all then cease: He is constantly re-creating men and women in Christ. In the Bible Sam we also learn that man is to be created as God's 'free subject', and that he is in fact in a state of rebellion against God, and how God deals with it.In a way therefore Sam, man with his pride is constantly trying to make himself equal with God, and is always frustrated by the fatal division in his own nature caused by sin.
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God did not make a car or camera in his own image therefore your post is pointless and without substance. I am feeling that with most of your posts Sam >>
If you are a Christian you will know that whilst the Bible is a record of Gods acts it is also a book of eye witness accounts that's whole purpose is to explain the lead up events to the coming, and the subsequent ministry of Jesus which deals with Gods standards and rules even though God has given man free will. If you genuinely repent and follow God and live by his rules through Jesus then you will be saved. Since Homo sexuality is against Gods wishes then the challenge is to suppress gay feelings whether currently practising or not if you have them, truly repent and then you will be forgiven. Whilst God himself did not make a car or a camera in his own image its through the will of God and Gods grace that such things exist presumably to operate as the maker intended, therefore God is the creator of a car and camera even if indirectly.
Therefore if you are a practising gay you can not be a true Christian at least that's my understanding of it all.
P.s. Don't shoot the messenger BTW, I'm just putting forward my view of how I understand it when it comes to defining a true Christian.
Edit.... What I'm trying to say is to answer Sam's question which was "Does the gay lifestyle contribute to sickness and death?" then one has to assume that it does if the person Sam is asking is a true Christian, because a true Christian would believe that it leads to sickness of the spiritual kind and the death of a gay persons relationship with God / Jesus.
"The Holy Spirit, in 1st Timothy, writing through Paul, called it the work of every "good servant of Jesus Christ to expose Godless errors and profane myths." accordingly; this view, through the truth of God's Word, of homosexuality's history, occult spirituality and inherent destruction of man, should not be dismissed as "hatred," for it is written in obedience to the God of Creation, and with love and concern for the physical and the eternal spiritual well being of all men and women."
My view though Trevor(may I call you Trevor?) is...
It comes to Abraham's knowledge that S&G, the two chief cities in the area where Lot has gone to live, are becoming notorious for the vice practiced by their people. (they are traditionally supposed to be the original home of homosexuality: that is symbolically what they stand for) He is worried. He communicates with God. what is the truth about these people who do what they know outrages God and humanity? do they all die? No they don't all die becuase it is Abraham who has trouble wrestling out the truth! People who are innocent(homosexuals) should not be made to suffer because their neighbours are guilty of the sin of homophobia. It is crude and simple but there you go.
Bruce
This message has been edited by Boowee on Oct 28, 2009 4:52 PM
the bible was written by men and not by god....it simply reflects the prejudices and beliefs of that very backward time. sadly we have not come very far since then and the bible (or the koran for that matter) and people who take it at face value are largely to blame for that.
The bible was written by men in a time when authorship was not of concern really. The only authorship within the Bible that is clear really are the Epistles of Paul; and even here there are disputes about some of them. Those who makes statements about Biblical matters in the manner which Sam posted are at a clear disadvantage - as it is clear that the Bible is puzzling to them. It is hard to accept a work that glorifies aggressive war, that tells me the world was created in six days, that the almighty approves of swindlers and harlot but then punishes Saul for not hewing Agag into pieces.
Hi Bruce, yes you may call me Trevor I don't mind, some people often call me a lot worse
< "The Holy Spirit, in 1st Timothy, writing through Paul, called it the work of every "good servant of Jesus Christ to expose godless errors and profane myths." accordingly; this view, through the truth of God's Word, of homosexuality's history, occult spirituality and inherent destruction of man, should not be dismissed as "hatred," for it is written in obedience to the God of Creation, and with love and concern for the physical and the eternal spiritual well being of all men and women." >>
As I understand Christianity, then a true Christian wouldn't shun, look down on, ostracise etc, etc, etc, a homosexual and they definitely would NOT! judge them because it's only God who can do that, they would however engage (not literally! LOL! ) a gay person, be concerned for them, and explain / convince them why such a practice is wrong in Gods eyes. Yes you are correct it is a Christians duty to expose Godless errors and try to put them right with God, but whether the Bibles views on homosexuality are profane myths depends on whether a person has a relationship with Jesus and whether they have chosen to have him in their life and understand what Jesus and God requires of them. God hates man who breaks his rules with a vengeance whether its homosexuality or whatever, but whilst he can be a vengeful God in the justice he can meter out, he is also a loving God which is why he sent Jesus to die in the Cross to carry everyone's sins and enable people to find a way back into a relation ship with him. To a non Christian then the Bible and what it contains probably is a book of myths.
< It comes to Abraham's knowledge that S&G, the two chief cities in the area where Lot has gone to live, are becoming notorious for the vice practiced by their people. (they are traditionally suppossed to be the original home of homosexuality: that is symbolically what they stand for) He is worried. He communicates with God. what is the truth about these people who do what they know outrages God and humanity? do they all die? No they don't all die becuase it is Abraham who has trouble wrestling out the truth! People who are innocent(homosexuals) should not be made to suffer bacause their neighbours are guilty of the sin of homophobia. It is crude and simple but there you go.>>
A true christian fully understands the feelings of homosexuals and understands that it isn't the fault of a particular person for innocently feeling that way, which is why a true Christian should not be homophobic, the challenge in a Christians eyes is for that person with gay feelings to fight those feelings, repent and put God first. The people in your example didn't die because God made allowances for them, also its from the old Testament before the arrival of the true King of man, Jesus ( God in human form ) but were they to do it after Jesus had come and died on the cross in order for them to be forgiven, and they refused to fully repent and ask for forgiveness, then a fate worse than death would await them once they had been judged in death. The old Testament and the New Testament often conflict with each other, but its the New Testament which deals with the arrival and death of Jesus which is the conclusion and final for which read must be obeyed guidance of the Bible.
BTW I'm no expert! this is all my understanding of how a true Christian thinks and how its been explained to me.
<< strange logic afoot ... if god hates gays why did he create them ? >>
It probably has something to do with Eve goading Adam into eating that apple from the tree of life in the Garden Of Eden thus extracting Gods vengeance by making a perfect world into an imperfect one where man has to toil and sweat and make the proper decisions via free will when it comes to doing the right thing in Gods eyes, that plus the Devils influences.
I guess if you are wanting the proper answers to such questions you had better attend church
you would have to drag me kicking and screaming into a christian church service ... although i occasionally drop in to admire the archtecture. infact i am a total atheist these days. i have studied buddhism and TM in the past and all though i found the meditation useful and these guys are a lot less judgemental ... i could still not accept the more fantastic theories that have been attached over the years.
The shape and function of a man's penis suggests we were not 'designed' to have just the 1 sexual partner. This contradicts the teachings of the Bible, with regards to monogamy and fornication, whichever way you interpret it.
I suppose the moral of the story is if you insist on sleeping around with several partners within a short time frame of each other, then make sure both parties have had a bloody good wash or trouble could ensue, either that or wear a condom
Re: And on the forgotten, eleventh stone tablet carried down the mountain by Moses...
October 28 2009, 7:28 PM
No you are wrong about that, you can be gay and be a Christian also. The idea you expressed would mean nobody can be a christian because we are all sinners. So, if a sinner cant be a Christian then there are no true christians.
The bible does not make one sin greater then another, it is all sin in gods eyes.
Re: And on the forgotten, eleventh stone tablet carried down the mountain by Moses...
October 28 2009, 9:01 PM
<< No you are wrong about that, you can be gay and be a Christian also. The idea you expressed would mean nobody can be a christian because we are all sinners. So, if a sinner cant be a Christian then there are no true christians.
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The bible does not make one sin greater then another, it is all sin in gods eyes >>
Is this aimed at me?
Oh well! if it isn't then I shall attempt to answer it anyway with regards to how the Christian faith was explained to me.
You are correct we are all sinners whether we carry out a sinful act or inadvertently think impure thoughts. Stealing from a shop or coverting the neighbours wife would apply as two random examples off the top of my head, the only perfect human who was totally free of sin was Jesus. However even though we all constantly sin and will always continue to do so, the key to becoming a Christian is getting a relationship with God via Jesus and trying to live a Godly life by repenting, acknowledging your sinful acts and thoughts, praying for forgiveness and meaning it! going to church to worship (although that's not an absolute requirement but a true Christian would want to worship with other Christians anyway) and associating with fellow Christians in their everyday life, by doing all this and more it's perfectly possible to be a true Christian despite the constant failing of humans to sin. As such if you are a homosexual and continue to practice it without acknowledging that in Gods eyes it's wrong, then in a case such as that you are unable to be a Christian. Acknowledge it and do whats required and you can.
You are correct when you say God doesn't differentiate between different levels of sin, because all sin is equal from what we would consider the most heinous to the casual if it doesn't abide by Gods rules and the way of life and thinking he wants his people to follow.
Jesus never denounced homosexuality; that was his hung-up, recovering-Pharisee publicist. He didn't believe in human reproduction either. My husband believed the only sin was selfishness and that in the long run, we'll all be saved. I'll go with that.
And I don't notice that straight society is living all that healthily either.
I used to wake up the ocean
This message has been edited by crackedemerald on Oct 28, 2009 11:37 PM
I see the fundemental flaw with the way Christianity was explained to you as this.
No person can ever truely repent all of our sins, sometimes we dont even know when we have sinned. Your explanation, when carried out to its end, would have zero "true Christians" as followers of the faith. Jesus was sent because God saw and knew we could never live by the laws put forth in the old testament.
Yes, we are to repent our sins and try to do them no more, but as a person who works in a church, I can tell you, from the greatest Pastor to the janitor, not one of them is free from any sin they repent. Try though they may, we humans always fall short when it comes to sin.
<< Yes, we are to repent our sins and try to do them no more, but as a person who works in a church, I can tell you, from the greatest Pastor to the janitor, not one of them is free from any sin they repent. Try though they may, we humans always fall short when it comes to sin >>
I'm not really disagreeing with you perhaps I never explained myself properly, like I said I'm no expert but the way I understood it when I had it explained to me was that yes no one is ever free from sin even if they truly repent because as you say humans will always fall short when it comes to sin. The key is in genuinely trying to avoid it by praying for forgiveness, trying to live a godly life etc. God knows that even those who do this will still fall short but if he sees a person making a genuine effort %100 of the time and not trying to bluff it, then they have an eternal gateway back to him via the death of Jesus on the cross.
First of all, shut up Nick. I really enjoy having a conversation without all the anger you like to whip up.
Now MT, thanks for a reasonable response to me.
How I understand it is that Jesus said the only way to salvation was through the true acceptance of him. Not our deeds in any way, the idea being that if you accept him, you will want to change your ways anyway. But that is not required for salvation. Christianity claims to be the only Non-karma based religion. If it was as how you explained it, then that claim would be meaningless.
On the other hand, most christians agree and act as if what you said is truth, which makes so many people hate them, because we all know that even the most pious man is living with secrets and sins, and his good deeds cannot outweigh his bad.
I am stunned that a fellow Bowie fan could make such a narrow minded myopic observation about gay lifestyle. SHAME SHAME!
HIV kills far more hetrosexuals than gays
homosexuality is a NORMAL expression of human sexuality. IT IS FOUND IN NATURE. It is a biological and has nothing to do with religion.
People who quote the bible in modern contexts are on VERY shakey ground. If you read the old testiment then we would all be living in a Taliban like conservative society.
YOU GOD IS NOT MY GOD. I am so sick of God and religion tainting humanity. Because you believe in the Bible and your version of Christiantiy does not mean I should have to live my life according to your beliefs. I am a buddhist and that IS NOT A RELIGION, but a philosopy on how to live life.
Being gay is a gift that is constantly persecuted and terroized by GOD fearing folk who are plain scared.
I am stunned that a fellow Bowie fan could make such a narrow minded myopic observation about gay lifestyle. SHAME SHAME!
He's not a Bowie fan. He's a psychotic twat who writes these filthy pieces (or copies and pastes other people's writing) in the delusion that they're some form of art supposedly designed to encourage/provoke discussion.
He's best ignored (since all efforts to have him banned seem to fall on deaf ears). He doesn't really care what you have to say, he just wants to throw a proverbial cat of obnoxiousnous into a bunch of liberal-minded pigeons and then step back and laugh at the outrage he's engendered. Fucking psychos.
It must be noted, rather than stirring up strife, I expressed my opinion knowing that others might disagree with me. I respectfully stated this. Morever, when comments unrelated to me got out of hand, I tried to close the thread.
Nonetheless, nibbler took the first opportunity to jump in with hateful comments toward me after I tried to end the strife. He again called me a psychotic and again mentioned a ban toward me.
Nibbler is a coward and a phony. Rather than seek peace, he does all he can to stir up hatred and name calling. He is filth and a hypocrite.
Moreover, stating "I am not a Bowie fan" is another lie told by nibbler. Considering I just wrote a treatise on Bewlay Brothers, it is obvious he is a false witness.
As a scholar Sam you would know that a 'treatise' is considered longer than an essay. And your Bewlay Brothers post was an allegory to your empty head. I would say metaphor but I rather like the fact it is clearly outside of your box!
I think Nibbler may have a point about certain facets of your character. Have you ever considered some counselling or taking a break from yourself? It is a shame you cannot stand back to witness your turmoil Sam. The gaps in your writing suggest some falsehoods and if we are to be determined by ourselves as whole then you appear to be less than triumphant. I for one do not appeciate your dishonesty as it comes from and is directed back to yourself. Why do you have such low esteem Sam?
Does the gay lifestyle contribute to sickness and death?-
October 31 2009, 10:27 AM
Another classic thread from Sam.
What a load of nonsense.
But i raise the question....
"Does A Homophobic / Hetrosexual lifestyle contribute to sickness and death ??". Ha !
The stars seemed aligned for supporters of gay marriage. They had Maine's governor, legislative leaders and major newspapers on their side, plus a huge edge in campaign funding. So losing a landmark referendum was a devastating blow, for activists in Maine and nationwide.
In an election that had been billed for weeks as too close to call, Maine's often unpredictable voters repealed a state law Tuesday that would have allowed same-sex couples to wed. Gay marriage has now lost in all 31 states in which it has been put to a popular vote a trend that the gay-rights movement had believed it could end in Maine.
"Today's heartbreaking defeat unfortunately shows that lies and fear can still win at the ballot box," said Rea Carey, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.
With 87% of the precincts reporting, gay-marriage foes had 53% of the vote. They prevailed in many of Maine's far-flung small towns and lost by a less-than-expected margin in the state's biggest city, Portland.
"The institution of marriage has been preserved in Maine and across the nation," declared Frank Schubert, chief organizer for the winning side.
Attention will now turn to other states, including California where Schubert was an instrumental strategist a year ago in the successful campaign to overturn cost-ordered same-sex marriage.
Gay-rights activists have been planning to go back to the ballot in California, either in 2010 or 2012, in another attempt to legalize gay marriage. But the Maine result was not the victory they had been hoping for to fire up their troops.
Brian Brown of the National Organization for Marriage, a conservative group that steered substantial funds to fight gay marriage in both California and Maine, was elated by Tuesday's result, saying it shows that "that even in a New England state, if the voters have a chance to have their say, they're going to protect and defend the commonsense definition of marriage."
At issue in the referendum was a law passed by Maine's Legislature last spring that would have allowed gays to wed. The law was put on hold after conservatives launched a petition drive to repeal it.
Five other states have legalized gay marriage starting with Massachusetts in 2004, and followed by Vermont, New Hampshire, Connecticut and Iowa but all did so through legislation or court rulings, not by popular vote. In contrast, constitutional amendments banning gay marriage have been approved in all 30 states where they have been on the ballot.
Brown said "out-of-touch legislators" are a principal reason same-sex marriage has taken hold in New England.
"What we're saying is give us a chance to take our message to the people and let the people decide," he said. He also suggested that the outcome in Maine will give pause to lawmakers in New York and New Jersey, where gay-marriage legislation is pending.
Richard Socarides, who was an adviser on gay-rights issues in the Clinton administration, said the loss in Maine should prompt gay-rights leaders to reconsider their state-by-state strategy on marriage and shift instead to lobbying for changes on the federal level that expand recognition of same-sex couples.
In Maine, gay-marriage supporters conceded early Wednesday.
"We're in this for the long haul," said Jesse Connolly, manager of the pro-gay marriage campaign. "For next week, and next month, and next year until all Maine families are treated equally. Because in the end, this has always been about love and family and that will always be something worth fighting for.
A similar note was sounded by Democratic Gov. John Baldacci, who signed the bill into law last May and spoke out in defense of the law.
"If we don't get to the top of the mountain tonight, we've made a significant stride. And we're going to get there," he said late Tuesday. "We will get to the top of the mountain."
Both sides in Maine drew volunteers and contributions from out of state, but the money edge went to the campaign in defense of gay marriage, Protect Maine Equality. It raised $4 million, compared with $2.5 million for Stand for Marriage Maine.
Stand for Marriage based many of its campaign ads on claims disputed by state officials that the new law would mean "homosexual marriage" would be taught in public schools. That was the same theme used to persuade Californians to reject gay marriage.
Elsewhere on Tuesday, voters in Washington state voted on whether to uphold or overturn a recently expanded domestic partnership law that entitles same-sex couples to the same state-granted rights as heterosexual married couples. With half the precincts reporting, that race was too close to call.
In Kalamazoo, Mich., voters approved a measure that bars discrimination based on sexual orientation.
'You start out wrinkled and you cry...you end up wrinkled and you die.'
Civil unions and/or legal benefits of marriage to any and all people, things; all of 'em.
November 4 2009, 10:45 PM
It'd be the biggest all-on-one-level statement since the invention of the porcelain, sit down toilet : kings, queens, bums, scum, scholars, et. al: everyone's on the same level when you picture them on the throne, no pun intended, yet just a tad lol . Equal rights is equal rights, goddamnit! If everyone had that one universal right in common and as an aside being protected legally and financially, et. al, then what kind of do*che would object to that? For anyone really? It'd make the world a bit more laid back if people just set the book down and used the mind that's actually at work there, if you know what I mean. Thanks, peace, later a go-go, gge LOL.
-"Since I'm going to Hell, bet ya $20.00 it looks like a Rob Zombie production ."
This message has been edited by greengrassend on Nov 4, 2009 10:46 PM
"Does the gay lifestyle contribute to sickness and death?"
.... well yeah it has to contribute to that what you are saying, Sam.
I mean, just look at all the dead-gay people all over the place.
Great mental process Sam. How do you ever manage it? Perhaps ye were dropped
on yer' little head as a wee one?... sounds about right to me, by the sounds of you.
I debated back & forth on whether or not I should respond to anymore of this. I prayed about it some and decide: "What the hell? I'll make some kind of comment."
I believe that everyone has a right to his/her viewpoint. no matter if I agree with them or not
Now, if you agree, fine & if you do not agree, that's fine & dandy too. Because frankly, I don't give a damn one way or the other. I won't be bullied or coerced into anything. Btw, name-calling doesn't work on me either.
I know what I believe & why.
Basically, if you don't want my opinion/view on something then don't ask me. Because if you ask, I'll probably answer. I ain't afraid to state my viewpoint(whether it's a popular one or not).
now onto the topic at hand
To Bending Sound:
"Before you can be taken seriously!"
And before I can take you seriously, you need to show me some common courtesy/respect & knock off the name-calling.
"How do you come to these assumptions of yours?"
Do you want to honestly know or are you just looking to bash something?
I just don't see the point of explaining my beliefs when all you seem to want to do is name call. If you want to have a Serious Respectful Mature Adult conversation & maybe try to see/understand my viewpoint, then by all means, Let's get this. But name-calling is just petty, immature & childish.
"A reply this side of Christmas would be appreciated."
I was gonna wait until New Year's Eve but I thought that'd be pushing it...
"Perhaps it is afraid to answer? It obviously cannot back up it's bigoted views and must be more retarded than I first thought!"
#1: I am Not afraid to answer see above comment & I am certainly not afraid of you.
#2: My views are not "bigoted". Are your's perhaps?
#3: Are you "afraid" of someone who doesnt share your exact viewpoint/opinion?
"And what's this?"
in reference to my new avatar
I thought you were suppose to be a "genius".
My new avatar even has a slight Bowie connection... seeing as how he named dropped them in a song
Maybe I should make it a contest:
First person who figures out what my new avatar is, gets a cookie.
To Sean:
"MB is just plain stupid to think that! I would say inbreeding would lead to ill health and untimely demise."
"Stupid inbred FREAK"
"Don't expect an intelligent answer from Miss Whooping her Cousin"
I promise to grow up if you promise not to breed with any of your cousins. We cant have the world full of little MBs running around with backward views.
'I just don't see the point of explaining my beliefs when all you seem to want to do is name call. If you want to have a Serious Respectful Mature Adult conversation & maybe try to see/understand my viewpoint, then by all means, Let's get this. But name-calling is just petty, immature & childish.'
Merc, you will NEVER be able to get a mature conversation with BendingSound/RhodaB/London! They (one and the same) are actually homophobes that belong to an ant-gay cult that also blow up abortion clinics and offer under aged children as a sacrifice to their god.
'You start out wrinkled and you cry...you end up wrinkled and you die.'
+++Merc, you will NEVER be able to get a mature conversation with BendingSound/RhodaB/London! They (one and the same) are actually homophobes that belong to an ant-gay cult that also blow up abortion clinics and offer under aged children as a sacrifice to their god.+++
Get it through your thick skull that BendingSound/RhodaB/London are all seperate members, not quite sure where London went?
'Get it through your thick skull that BendingSound/RhodaB/London are all seperate members, not quite sure where London went?'
You iz fullin' no one bout dat! We nose you iz one and da same. What iz da name of your cult? I herd dat ya screw livestock at your meetings. Iz dat tru?
'You start out wrinkled and you cry...you end up wrinkled and you die.'
In the places where HIV infection is truly epidemic, like Africa and parts of Asia, the virus is mainly transmitted by heterosexual sex. It doesn't differentiate between 'lifestyles'. My husband had a disease as deadly and communicable as HIV, and another disease that required daily injections - all interaction was a calculated risk. I think that the idea that love is sin is a pile of crap. Love may be the one true sacrament.