Great news! I'm not going to lose any more money and they have come to some sort of agreement ( I await to read the details with interest ) regarding the local OFFICIAL! ( not wildcat like the media will tell you ) regional strikes I have been involved in throughout the summer.
Bad news! Reading between the lines sod all really been sorted, both parties UCW & RM have agreed to a period of calm after which they will both get down to the nitty gritty of modernisation (which will take Royal Mails workers views and interests into account) with the joint involvement of ACAS and another independent party? ( why the fuck couldn't they agree this before I lost money ) the period of calm will mean any more strike action will not happen until after Xmas,( just what Royal Mail wanted ) the strike mandate is still in force should strike action be required then. ( memo to UCW! after Xmas you don't have a bargaining chip and I'm NOT!!!! going on strike after Xmas if things aren't agreed and lose money for what will then be a lost cause) and finally our pensions are still fucked and the solving of this major problem caused by successive governments are not in anyway included in today's compromised initial agreement.
I tell you what! I'm well over two grand out of pocket, and once again I have lost all that money in return for no proper resolution to all the problems facing the postal industry.
Conclusion! I'm glad the strike has been called off, I'm glad people will get a temporary postal service once again especially for Xmas, but as far as I'm concerned Royal Mail can go and fuck itself and die. I really couldn't give a shit what happens to it or whether people have a decent and cheap postal service or not. As for the union! as a former UCW rep and long standing trade unionist, for the first time ever I'm seriously considering throwing in my union membership.
So its all off for the time being, but rest assured people its going to happen all over again in the near future!!
It's because of smart arses like you with your smart arsed comments that I will be taking great I told you so satisfaction when fuckers like you start bleating in time about how you are getting ripped off price wise and service wise by whoever is tasked to replace Royal Mail.
Oh! and by the way is tossers like you that sums up everything that is wrong with the UK today, because the sodding place is filled to overflowing with short sighted, smart arsed, spineless, all accepting idiots you yourself. At least the Postal workers went down fighting if the worst happens and the company goes under, if we had to rely on people like you to fight for any rights or justice in this world then we may as well all roll over and give up on everything right now.
Oh! and by the way there's truth in the old saying, what comes around goes around, because its only a matter of time before you get crapped on if you haven't already.
<<So when you need anaesthetising for a terminal illness, I should go on strike for more pay? >>
If I have a terminal illness sunshine, then last thing I'd want is anaesthetising, because I'll be off to Switzerland to Dignitas to put myself out of my misery from having to put up with ignorant muppets like you. And besides Royal Mail is no longer classed as a totally essential service these days unlike something like the NHS because by all accounts others are now allowed to offer the same service as Royal Mail i.e. you now have a choice.
Perhaps TNT, DHL, or whoever can run the health service as well ( I assume that's who you work for? ) after all every body is doing everybody else's jobs these days.
If you have a terminal illness you may well need frequent anaesthesia (you ignorant muppet subject matter expert). Switzerland is a useful last resort but terminal does not mean the end is now (muppet).
Depriving the general public of a public service is inexcusable. If your salary or pension isn't good enough, negotiate to your satisfaction or change your job. Leave the innocent public out of your squabble.
"Ah, you need a medical procedure to save your life? Sorry, I am on strike because I am a callous bastard who cares nothing that you will die/my petty postal strike will result in your business/livelihood going down the toilet".
<< If you have a terminal illness you may well need frequent anaesthesia (you ignorant muppet subject matter expert). Switzerland is a useful last resort but terminal does not mean the end is now (muppet). >>
The end is when I say it is, and no I don't claim to be an expert in your profession ( unlike a hell of a lot of people in this world who seem to think they are an expert in mine ) but if I need the odd dose of anaesthesia for a terminal illness and I need it that bad, then I will just have find the money and go private if you were to go on strike for a just cause or if the NHS folded, just like your going to have to do when you are forced to pay exorbitant postal prices via the private postal operators in the future. This is the world everyone seems to want so good luck to everybody I say.
< Depriving the general public of a public service is inexcusable. If your salary or pension isn't good enough, negotiate to your satisfaction or change your job. Leave the innocent public out of your squabble.>>
And you think its that easy to just change your job as you put it, like there isn't 30 years (in my case ) worth of service and all that goes with that to weigh up and consider you dozy twonk, not to mention that I'm 49 now which is hardly the ideal time of life to go looking for alternative employment. If it was all that simple don't you think some of us would have done it by now. Also its not that our pension isn't good enough, but more a case of we are wanting the government to put in what they owe us because they opted out of paying their share for 13 years, after all its them that own the bloody company. Perhaps they would do so if I was a car worker or a corrupt banker eh!
< "Ah, you need a medical procedure to save your life? Sorry, I am on strike because I am a callous bastard who cares nothing that you will die/my petty postal strike will result in your business/livelihood going down the toilet".
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Why should we care about you?>>
Well in case you haven't worked it out by now, you should care because we have been on strike to save what should be a bloody good postal service ( as well as many other issues ) for ungrateful twats like you! why should you care? well! if you are a small business for instance who is struggling to make ends meet today, what the fuck do you think is going to happen when you have to pass on exorbitant postage costs to your customers, not to mention having to explain to your customers why certain company's wont deliver to wherever, and when you want them to simply because it's not profitable for them to do so. Don't forget if RM goes belly up or is severely downsized they wont be able to rely on the publicly paid for RM infrastructure to bale them out, whilst they make maximum profits for their private ( usually foreign ) shareholders, via lucrative bulk mailing business contracts.
Are you saying that anybody these days who has the guts to stand up for themselves or fight for their rights are to be forever branded as Arthur Scargill or 70s trade unionists dinosaurs. Give me strength!
With attitudes like yours which seem to be in the majority here in the UK these days, we had better hope that as a nation we never have to fight another Hitler in a conventional type 3rd world war. I wouldn't fancy our chances much.
Hope TNT or DHL do a better job of delivering post than the shitty Royal Mail. They can't do worse. Seems the Royal Mail only employs thieves and lazy bastards. Rubbish.
Hope TNT or DHL do a better job of delivering post than the shitty Royal Mail. They can't do worse. Seems the Royal Mail only employs thieves and lazy bastards. Rubbish. >>
I suggest you read replies properly and interpret them correctly, I wrote that I would like to get out of the country not that I was actually going to. Personal circumstances and my close families views and wishes obviously have to be respected, so the cross is mine to bear where by unfortunately I'm going have to continue living in a country for the time being which is full of misguided, spineless, politically correct dicks like you
As for your view that DHL & TNT would do a better job than RM? well! like I've said to both you and people like DiamondDoug in the past, by all means feel free to sod off and use them, but again like I've already said in other replies we all know that people like you will still continue to use RM for as long as it exists because misguided and ignorant so called customers like you will always choose the cheaper option over your so called views and principals.
< I agree. >>
Well yeah! I agree that both you and RhonadB are a couple of pricks to be honest.
Edit.... < Seems the Royal Mail only employs thieves and lazy bastards. Rubbish. >> It seems we agree on something though RhondaB because if current clueless RM management who were never brought up through the ranks of the Royal Mail have their way, then they will! they are called unvetted casual / part time labour usually from the immigrant labour market who will work for peanuts, thus adding to the constant driving down of wages terms and conditions in every type of employment and industry through out the UK. Of course don't labour under the misguidance that the private carriers you so champion won't be doing the same. That's just one of the reasons amongst many why we have been taking strike action, not that I expect people like you to have the intelligence or more importantly the GUTS! to be able to understand that.
<< Stop disrupting our mail service, you bone idle leecher. You get paid more than you deserve as it is. It's not exactly difficult is it? >>
Its not exactly difficult? your welcome to try it, they are taking on extra temporary staff at the moment in all areas by all accounts so be my guest. I notice you are saying to stop disrupting our! as in your! mail service, your very concerned for it all of a sudden, shame your concerns don't extend to supporting those who are trying to save it. Besides why should any disruption matter to you? you say Royal Mail is rubbish and the staff are thieves and lazy ( I assume you mean all staff as in full time, casual, and part time ) etc and that you and others are going to use the private postal operators anyway, it would seem we are an important service to the public after all despite the naysayers like you. BTW since you obviously can't keep up to speed with current events, the strikes at this moment in time have been called off. As for what I get paid in relation to what I do, unless you work where I work then you don't exactly know what my job fully! entails or indeed what I get paid because I have never fully told you. Oh yeah! your yet another pillock who thinks they know every detail about the industry I work in. I'll give you a tip don't believe everything you read in the gutter press.
< I do hope your superiors get to read this board >>
Why is that then? anything I have said here isn't any different to what they already know, views that are echoed by every other member of the UCW around the country via various forums (both official and unofficial) who have been on strike losing hundreds of pounds in wages. Besides this is still a country of free speech ... just! Free speech and thought is obviously something you and your kind would like to see curtailed.
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