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Pretty Pink Rose - Single Edit

February 27 2011 at 11:46 PM
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I've beem looking for the single edit of Pretty Pink Rose. Amazon/Play only have the album version - Does anyone know where this elusive item is hiding? Is it on itunes? (I have apple-phobia but if they have it, I may download their software to get it).


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Re: Pretty Pink Rose - Single Edit

February 28 2011, 9:55 AM 

I have it, way superior to the album version, IMO. Less noodling guitar, which brings the rythym guitar and bass to the fore & one of the verses is stripped out and replaced with another verse with a stronger vocal melody.

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Love that song

February 28 2011, 12:44 PM 

Should have made it on a 'Best of Bowie' by now.

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Re: Pretty Pink Rose - Single Edit

February 28 2011, 10:00 AM 

Email me, and ill send it over.

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Re: Pretty Pink Rose - Single Edit

February 28 2011, 10:21 AM 

nice pic


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Re: Pretty Pink Rose - Single Edit

February 28 2011, 10:24 AM 

Ya clever sod Roger happy.gif



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5.15
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Re: Pretty Pink Rose - Single Edit

February 28 2011, 3:04 PM 

Thanks very much for the replies and help guys - I'm now a very happy bunny indeed.

 
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I like the song. Adrian Belew: please lose the pony tail, if you haven't yet.

February 28 2011, 4:15 PM 

And stop hopping around so much wink.gif .
And soundin' all noodly with your guitar tone.
Just be cool wink.gif .

Poor Bowie, enduring Frank Zappa calling him "Captain Tom" for being caught nicking Adrian from Frank's band for Bowie's LOL wink.gif .

Ahh! Memories wink.gif .

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That, and I am Sawah Connah ...I think! wink.gif

ELECTRIC MOMBIES RULE ALWAYS! Come To 'Pigeon Park': They Await You... wink.gif

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Re: Pretty Pink Rose - Single Edit

February 28 2011, 3:57 PM 

Thank you Roger. happy.gif

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Re: Pretty Pink Rose - Single Edit

February 28 2011, 5:35 PM 

yeah adrian and some foundation happy.gif

no seriously the ponty tail was a mistake.

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how many loved your moments of glad grace
with a love false or true
but one man loved the pilgrim soul in you
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Ahh! Your Wokness! Top O' The.-Day On Ya, M'Dear!

February 28 2011, 5:37 PM 

wink.gif

happy.gif



"This whole acting thing is just bullshit, right? Actors are just bullshitters that get paid. Where do I sign up? wink.gif "

The coolest line Bette Midler ever uttered in a movie! wink.gif

That, and I am Sawah Connah ...I think! wink.gif

ELECTRIC MOMBIES RULE ALWAYS! Come To 'Pigeon Park': They Await You... wink.gif

Calexticamo wink.gif .

 
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pretty pink rose remix

February 28 2011, 10:34 PM 

wow thats excellent never heard that before
didnt realise there was another mix of this
where can you find that to buy commercially
was this version on the cd single in the uk?

should have put this on a best of yes

 
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Re: pretty pink rose remix

February 28 2011, 10:53 PM 

Yes, go here and see the various releases of this. Came out in 1990, but is actually an Adrian Belew featuring David Bowie release.

http://www.illustrated-db-discography.nl/cdsingle/cdsingle.htm#ppr

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pink

March 1 2011, 12:13 AM 

Thanks Titch!

 
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lee
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pretty pink rose versions

March 1 2011, 9:35 AM 

am i right in saying that the remixed edit version is only available exclusive to the promo cd?
and its the album version on all other releases?
that single remix is agreed far superior.

 
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Re: pretty pink rose versions

March 1 2011, 11:32 AM 

ok... maybe it's just b/c I haven't listened to the original version in YEARS (I've never liked the track)

but this version actually sounds pretty good!

I always hated how the original mix of it started off with that slow intro - then SLAMS into that horrible horrible guitar

 
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Re: pretty pink rose versions

March 1 2011, 12:49 PM 

There are actually two single edits, one of which is excluisive to the US promo cd. Both are very similar though.

From here:
"this duet with Adrian Belew was released in edited form (4'10" vs 4'44") as a single (Atlantic A 7904) from his Young Lions album. A different 4'16" edit is found exclusively on a US promo CD-single (Atlantic PRCD 3294-2) and an Instrumental Remix on Adrian Belew's download-only album Dust. The latter features an immortal spoken intro by David: 'She had tits like melons/It was love in the rain'."

Details of all the variations of the cd-singles here.

 
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Re: pretty pink rose versions

March 1 2011, 6:56 PM 

There's a nice live version from the Milton Keyes gig.

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I'm not too down with the 'Sound+Vision' reenditions.

March 1 2011, 7:28 PM 

Who cares what I think wink.gif ?
I barely do about this subject, so moving on then!

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uk cd version

March 1 2011, 9:14 PM 

so the actual uk cd single is this the normal album version featured or an edit of the album version or the remixed edit version i'm confused?
i would like to get the remixed edit version which is featured in this thread on cd.
i suppose it will cost a few quid on ebay for the cd single and the usa promo version?

 
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Re: uk cd version

March 1 2011, 9:43 PM 

Just get the regular CD single. They all have the single edit on them happy.gif

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Re: uk cd version

March 1 2011, 11:58 PM 

Actually no - both the regular US and Japanese cd-singles have the album version. The UK issue and US promo have (slightly different versions of) the edit/remix.

So if you want the edit you should get either the UK cd-single (the one with the pink cover) or the US promo (digipack with a pink rose on the front). Both are less common than the US issue cd-single (white cover with boy on front).

 
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Re: uk cd version

March 2 2011, 1:19 AM 

Sorry Maarten, you`re completely right. Being a brit, i was talking of the regular UK release....the pink cover. Thanks for clarifying happy.gif

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March 1 2011, 10:58 PM 


 
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INSTRUMENTAL

March 2 2011, 12:05 AM 

Instrumental version please!!!!!!!
I never heard it

 
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Re: INSTRUMENTAL

March 2 2011, 7:31 AM 

The instrumental version of Pretty Pink Rose is for sale from Adrian Belew's site here, and the instrumental version of Gunman is for sale here.
They are $1.49 each. Sadly they are 96kbps only, which imho is terrible, especially for paid downloads.

 
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thanks maarten

March 2 2011, 9:40 AM 

thats clarified that now.
i will look out for it on ebay but expect to pay a fair few quid i should imagine as I don't expect the remixed edit is available on itunes for download.
did'nt know there was a promo video made for it either, featuring bowie and belew.
has no-one ever seen it then has this been officially confirmed or doing the rounds unofficially?



 
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Re: thanks maarten

March 2 2011, 10:02 AM 


 
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Re: thanks maarten

March 2 2011, 10:10 AM 

I saw it a couple of times on MTV when it was released. I remember it looked better than it sounded!


To quote Belew on Pretty Pink Rose:


David's idea of doing one of his new songs as a "duet" was of course a very exciting prospect. He had made a demo version of the song in L.A. with the back-up band of another famous singer, and that's as much as I can say. David 's office sent a cassette of the demo. Excitedly I opened it and played it. "Oh gawd", it was awful! Imagine how I felt.

Here I was on the verge of touring for a year with david bowie and thinking we might produce a duet of perhaps a "hit" song of david's only to be confronted with something which sounded lifeless, limp, and plodding. I didn't know quite what to do. but as I listened to the version again and again I realized underneath what was clearly a poor recording effort there was indeed another classic bowie song. soon I couldn't stop singing it. what a great chorus.

The problem was of course in the rendering. First, the rhythm was all wrong. it perplexed me for a while until I remembered something from the very early beatles records. often the rhythm paul and ringo would create sounded as though one of them was playing straight 4/4 while the other was playing closer to a shuffle feel. this gives the rhythm a unique "pulling" sensation that seems almost like half-time but isn't. using my old 1955 Ludwig drum kit and the growling sampled bass sound, this is the way I approached the tempo and feel of my version.

Second, I felt it needed an intro of some kind so I concocted a way of playing the chorus melody and then bursting forth into the "rock" song. There was one part of the demo I adored. it was a line being played under the chorus vocal. on the demo it was a keyboard sound, but I preferred the sound of a double-tracked guitar.

The way the melody sat through the verses allowed for a "call and answer" approach which I rarely get to utilize. the singer sings, the guitar answers; the singer sings again and the guitar answers. this has been the bread and butter of blues guitar players forever, but it's often applied in rock songs as well. (think led zeppelin or early jeff beck/rod stewart)

It takes a certain kind of guitar style to make that work. something melodic yet at times flashy. fortunately, I found a new "trick" while working on pretty pink rose. I was using stratocasters equipped with Kahler tremelos at the time (pictured below). I discovered you could adjust the tip of the Kahler tremelo arm downward facing the strings and then play the strings using the tip itself. like "tapping" only using the tip of the tremelo arm instead of your right hand fingers. it was the perfect bit of "flash" I was looking for. and it just happened! I had never seen it done before (or since).

The final step was to present my version to david and hope he liked it, which he did, and then to add our memorable vocal session. later that year while on tour it was decided we should do a video which was filmed in one day in an abandoned railway station in Germany. somehow fitting.

 
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Re: thanks maarten

March 2 2011, 3:17 PM 

thanks tony
never seen that video before
quite a strange one but enjoyable shame it hasnt had an official release
love the song always have done.


 
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Re: thanks maarten

March 2 2011, 5:00 PM 

Bryan Adams backing band.

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Re: thanks maarten

March 2 2011, 10:39 PM 

"later that year while on tour it was decided we should do a video which was filmed in one day in an abandoned railway station in Germany."

That's interesting. The video that most people (I assume) know, was filmed at the Fruitmarket Gallery, Market Street, Edinburgh. If Belew is saying Germany, there's some mix up somewhere in either mine, and/or other peoples memories, or there's two videos.

Mist.

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I always liked that song. A great single, too.

March 2 2011, 3:45 PM 

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I remember the video. I always wondered why Bowie didn't claim it as his own.

March 2 2011, 3:47 PM 

He's cool that way, though happy.gif . He's a true musician's musician, and to me and my friends who are, he means everything to us all. Thanks for it All, David!

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Re: I remember the video. I always wondered why Bowie didn't claim it as his own.

March 2 2011, 10:04 PM 

INSTRUMENTAL?

 
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Re: I remember the video. I always wondered why Bowie didn't claim it as his own.

March 2 2011, 10:59 PM 

As I said before the instrumental is for sale on Adrian Belew's official website.

 
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Re: Pretty Pink Rose - Single Edit

March 3 2011, 11:12 AM 

Yes i thought the video had been done in Edinburgh. Ill have to dig my fanzines out now, unless anyone else can get this info. Not that its important. Im sure Germany and Edinburgh merge into one when touring !

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