I've beem looking for the single edit of Pretty Pink Rose. Amazon/Play only have the album version - Does anyone know where this elusive item is hiding? Is it on itunes? (I have apple-phobia but if they have it, I may download their software to get it).
I have it, way superior to the album version, IMO. Less noodling guitar, which brings the rythym guitar and bass to the fore & one of the verses is stripped out and replaced with another verse with a stronger vocal melody.
This message has been edited by BenderRodriguez from IP address 188.8.131.52 on Mar 24, 2011 4:47 PM
There are actually two single edits, one of which is excluisive to the US promo cd. Both are very similar though.
"this duet with Adrian Belew was released in edited form (4'10" vs 4'44") as a single (Atlantic A 7904) from his Young Lions album. A different 4'16" edit is found exclusively on a US promo CD-single (Atlantic PRCD 3294-2) and an Instrumental Remix on Adrian Belew's download-only album Dust. The latter features an immortal spoken intro by David: 'She had tits like melons/It was love in the rain'."
Details of all the variations of the cd-singles here.
This message has been edited by mkwant from IP address 184.108.40.206 on Mar 1, 2011 12:52 PM
so the actual uk cd single is this the normal album version featured or an edit of the album version or the remixed edit version i'm confused?
i would like to get the remixed edit version which is featured in this thread on cd.
i suppose it will cost a few quid on ebay for the cd single and the usa promo version?
Actually no - both the regular US and Japanese cd-singles have the album version. The UK issue and US promo have (slightly different versions of) the edit/remix.
So if you want the edit you should get either the UK cd-single (the one with the pink cover) or the US promo (digipack with a pink rose on the front). Both are less common than the US issue cd-single (white cover with boy on front).
The instrumental version of Pretty Pink Rose is for sale from Adrian Belew's site here, and the instrumental version of Gunman is for sale here.
They are $1.49 each. Sadly they are 96kbps only, which imho is terrible, especially for paid downloads.
thats clarified that now.
i will look out for it on ebay but expect to pay a fair few quid i should imagine as I don't expect the remixed edit is available on itunes for download.
did'nt know there was a promo video made for it either, featuring bowie and belew.
has no-one ever seen it then has this been officially confirmed or doing the rounds unofficially?
I saw it a couple of times on MTV when it was released. I remember it looked better than it sounded!
To quote Belew on Pretty Pink Rose:
David's idea of doing one of his new songs as a "duet" was of course a very exciting prospect. He had made a demo version of the song in L.A. with the back-up band of another famous singer, and that's as much as I can say. David 's office sent a cassette of the demo. Excitedly I opened it and played it. "Oh gawd", it was awful! Imagine how I felt.
Here I was on the verge of touring for a year with david bowie and thinking we might produce a duet of perhaps a "hit" song of david's only to be confronted with something which sounded lifeless, limp, and plodding. I didn't know quite what to do. but as I listened to the version again and again I realized underneath what was clearly a poor recording effort there was indeed another classic bowie song. soon I couldn't stop singing it. what a great chorus.
The problem was of course in the rendering. First, the rhythm was all wrong. it perplexed me for a while until I remembered something from the very early beatles records. often the rhythm paul and ringo would create sounded as though one of them was playing straight 4/4 while the other was playing closer to a shuffle feel. this gives the rhythm a unique "pulling" sensation that seems almost like half-time but isn't. using my old 1955 Ludwig drum kit and the growling sampled bass sound, this is the way I approached the tempo and feel of my version.
Second, I felt it needed an intro of some kind so I concocted a way of playing the chorus melody and then bursting forth into the "rock" song. There was one part of the demo I adored. it was a line being played under the chorus vocal. on the demo it was a keyboard sound, but I preferred the sound of a double-tracked guitar.
The way the melody sat through the verses allowed for a "call and answer" approach which I rarely get to utilize. the singer sings, the guitar answers; the singer sings again and the guitar answers. this has been the bread and butter of blues guitar players forever, but it's often applied in rock songs as well. (think led zeppelin or early jeff beck/rod stewart)
It takes a certain kind of guitar style to make that work. something melodic yet at times flashy. fortunately, I found a new "trick" while working on pretty pink rose. I was using stratocasters equipped with Kahler tremelos at the time (pictured below). I discovered you could adjust the tip of the Kahler tremelo arm downward facing the strings and then play the strings using the tip itself. like "tapping" only using the tip of the tremelo arm instead of your right hand fingers. it was the perfect bit of "flash" I was looking for. and it just happened! I had never seen it done before (or since).
The final step was to present my version to david and hope he liked it, which he did, and then to add our memorable vocal session. later that year while on tour it was decided we should do a video which was filmed in one day in an abandoned railway station in Germany. somehow fitting.
"later that year while on tour it was decided we should do a video which was filmed in one day in an abandoned railway station in Germany."
That's interesting. The video that most people (I assume) know, was filmed at the Fruitmarket Gallery, Market Street, Edinburgh. If Belew is saying Germany, there's some mix up somewhere in either mine, and/or other peoples memories, or there's two videos.
Yes i thought the video had been done in Edinburgh. Ill have to dig my fanzines out now, unless anyone else can get this info. Not that its important. Im sure Germany and Edinburgh merge into one when touring !