(Login Thylacine8) BW Member from IP address 184.108.40.206
I love the 95-97 shows, so I thought I'd cobble together my own version of Liveandwell. A collection of my favorite recordings from the period, tied together as one CD.
I'm going to use the original Liveandwell as the backbone, since I think most of Bowie's choices are pretty darn good.
What I'm looking for from you all are recommendations for standout tracks and places to find a lossless version, so I can master them all at the same sound level and tie them together without degrading the audio.
For me, what makes a standout performance/recording is:
Clarity/Source: No echoing audience recordings, although I will use audience recordings if they sound alright. Lossless recordings from broadcasts are probably best if possible.
Bowie's Performance: In some shows he gets a little chummy or flowery, which I'm not fond of. A good example would be his Dracula pronunciation of "Blood" on the "Hearts Filthy Lesson" from Liveandwell. Bits of that are okay, but if he goes off on a tangent, then I'd rather not include it. However, it's this same animated quality that makes these shows so great.
Reeves: If he's on the track, then he's supporting the song, not playing over it.
Garson: Up front and awesome.
Gail: She's always a bonus.
Something else awesome that you jut like: A good example would be Enoish backing vocals on the "Man Who Sold The World" rerecording. (Is that really him?)
So I'll put up my playlist as it stands right now.
01) O Superman - Toronto 97
02) Look Back In Anger - Wembley 95
03) I'm Afraid Of Americans - Liveandwell
04) Hearts Filthy Lesson - Liveandwell
05) Hallo Spaceboy - Liveandwell
06) The Man Who Sold The World - B Side (Strangers When We Meet)
07) The Motel - Liveandwell
08) The Voyer of Utter Destruction - Liveandwell
09) Strangers When We Meet - Wembley 95
10) Battle For Britain - Liveandwell
11) Seven Years In Tibet - Liveandwell
12) Under Pressure - B Side (Hallo Space Boy)
13) Moonage Daydream - B Side (Hallo Space Boy)
14) Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps) - Saturday Night Live: 25 Years, Vol. 1
15) Teenage Wildlife - Wembley 95
16) Little Wonder - Liveandwell
I'm thinking about adding the acoustic version of "Aladdin Sane" from the 50th Birthday BBC preshow, and I'm sure there are other gems. So what do you all think? If anything, I hope Bowie Camp spots this, and considers doing something like this themselves. I'd love to see Wembley and Toronto get proper releases, they're both very good shows.
'Strangers When We Meet', 'Moonage Daydream' & "Heroes" from Phoenix Festival 1996 are my favourite live versions of those songs.
'Hallo Spaceboy' from Jools Holland, never sounded better to me.
'Hurt' with NIN from 'Closure' is a gem
'Dead Man Walking' from Conan O'Brien is nice as an acoustic number
How about 'Is It Any Wonder' & 'O Superman' from CyberLive gig?
The 2 Tao Jones tracks from Amsterdam (expanded Earthling)
Ooh, you're both right about V2, I'll have to fit that in. The acoustic Dead Man I do have, I'll see if I can fit it in somewhere. I'll give a listen to the phoenix ones again- there is a great version of Heroes from one of these concerts, I forgot about that.
To me - the BEST version of "O Superman" is from the "Dancing on Angels" Bootleg
Disc 2 Nantes (16 Jun 97)
the audience actually stays quiet during Gail's speak-singing portion on the intro (no hoots or hollers, which is rare)
I would AVOID anything off of the "Cyberlive" Bootleg, as it's recorded from a RealPlayer / RealAudio internet stream, so the bass is extremely lacking, sounds incredibly tinny, and distorted
My favorite version of "Fame" was from the Paradiso Bootleg (to me, it sounds like they played the track slightly faster on this night, so it doesn't 'plod' along as much as it does on other bootlegs)
I kind of prefer "Pallas Athena" as on the "L Dopa" bootleg over the officially released version, because you can actually hear Bowie's saxophone playing (which wasn't included in the mix as found on the official b-side release)
Also - "the Last Thing You Should Do" from the "Voyeur" bootleg is pretty cool (as he throws in lines from 'Sound & Vision)
plus that performance of "the Supermen" is nice
(although - I always thought the sound quality on that bootleg sounded a bit... off)
As a side note:
The "Live Mix" of 'The Man Who Sold the World' (as on the "Strangers When We Meet" single)
is not really a live performance. It was done in-studio... It was just labeled in a rather confusing manner
(quoted from 'The Illustrated DB Discography')
Live Version on the 'Strangers When We Meet' CD-single (RCA/BMG 74321 32940 2). This remake was included on the 2003 US reissue [...] as Brian Eno "Live" Mix
(quoted from Enoweb)
"mixed by Brian in the studio; Brian sings along with David"
...so to me - that's saying -> Brian Eno did a special remix / version with (or just 'for') Bowie to use on the Outside Tour, instead of it being simply called "Brian Eno Remix" - it was called "Live Mix" as in... "this is the version that is used for when we play the song live"
Personally I wouldnt include any 95-96 Outside tour stuff and start with the 96 Summer festival tour. 95-96 was a different band, different arrangement of songs, had much more synths in its sound and Reeves was using a very different guitar set up. From the festival tour onwards the stylistics were more the same; Reeves vg8 guitar, the drum&bass influenced reworked older songs and the same musicians.
yea... I just realized - all of the tracks in your compilation are either from the 'proper' Outside or Earthling tours, and no tracks from the 'festival band' / 'festival tour' (whatever you'd call the '96 tour... which on one hand - you could still call it 'the Outside Tour' but on the other, it's the "earthling band" ...and they change the set-lists quite a bit, did re-redo some songs (Andy Warhol, for example - which has added drum loops and percussion))
...although I will say - I did prefer the '95 version of Andy Warhol over the later one, which seemed just a touch too busy
Loreley is a great bootleg, especially if you only want to use soundboard or broadcast quality material (yes, I know there's also the Phoenix Festival, but I thought - at least my copy - sounded a bit too treble-y
I'd say that I listen to either "1.Tokyo" or "10th June Outside Tour"
more often than Loreley. Even though both are audience recordings - they're FANTASTIC audience recordings (I've seen both mislabeled as soundboard) - the audience is very polite, and there's no hooting / chatter while the songs are played
plus - the "10th June..." bootleg has a totally unique version of "My Death" - the first verse (or so) is completely acapella (no guitar on the intro), then it goes into a version that's kinda like the later "Earthling Tour Version"
well as ever biro has it. i would have to agree that the jools holland version of spaceboy is great but the one from Bastille Day seems to be circulating in better quality (a good idea would be to source something from the TV is King boot) there are a couple of pristine man who sold eno style on there which are truly live...(well withe cool backing tracks but not tweaked)
yea - as far as bootlegs go... I definitely collected mostly Outside and Earthling -era stuff
it seemed like during that period, there was significantly more variation between performances than on other tours
like, for instance - "The Last Thing You Should Do" would be different depending on where it was in the set-list. If it was during the main "rock set" - you'd get more live drumming, and Zach would throw in a few more random 'fills' ... but if it was during the 'dance set' - it'd be more kick-drum centered and stream-lined
or how (as I mentioned before) "Andy Warhol" was changed between the Outside and Festival tours
and "jean genie" had loads of different intros (incorporating a 'blues-y' version of JG, Heaven's in Here, Width of a Circle, Good morning little school girl, etc etc etc)
I have / had loads of bootlegs, but most are in storage now (and I lost quite a few thanks to a HD crash)
but I managed to save some of the better ones, which I'd say would be a good starting point if you were going to make your own 'live and well'
1996 - Osaka Castle Hall (AUD) -> I've already mentioned this and 1.Tokyo before... both great performances and in nice sound quality
1996 - Fuck You All Night Long (Bridge School Benefit)
ChangesNowBowie (08-01-97) -> the acoustic 50th B-day performance.
1997 - Save the Children (50th Birthday) - "save the children" supposedly is direct from the soundboard... It definitely sounds a bit 'crisp' at times, but I've always preferred it to the other boots that were recorded from the broadcast. There's a pre-fm version, but all the tracks are re-ordered, and bundled together... so it's a bit of a pain in the ass to deal with.
1997 - Song And Dance Hanover Grand (AUD) -> sure, they play many of the same songs twice... but it's because it's still early in the tour, and they're 'trying things out' (which also means cool alternate versions - like Gail singing "Outside" or having both versions of "Last Thing..." played at one show)
1997 - L Dopa+
Paradiso Live '97 (actually my FIRST bootleg EVER) -> I don't think I've heard a single performance of "Stay" "Fame" or "Quicksand" sound as good as on this boot.
1997 - Werchter 5th July 1997 re-work (SBD) -> at least "Looking for Satellites" is cool b/c he sings "Life on Mars" at the end
1997-10-14 Port Chester -> not too keen on the main performance, but the pre-broadcast songs are quite good (Voyeur, Supermen, Panic in Detroit)
1997 - the Chaos Girls (Toronto) 28_9_97 (AUD)
1997 - Dancing on Angels (AUD)
1997 - Panic in Detroit (AUD) - one of the (if not the) longest Earthling shows
1997 - Voyeur - just now noticed it's strangely missing from my external HD... but it's got some cool slightly different reworkings of many songs
Dead Man Walking - David Letterman Show (It has a long-ish outro, similar to the album version)
* It's been a while since I've listened to it, but - from what I recall... it pretty much has EVERY song performed on the UK/EU leg of the Outside Tour, and has the ONLY decent recording from the super short "Ballroom Tour" (he even announces that the album is going to be called EarthlingS - there's also a unique version of "Little Wonder" & he says that "Baby Universal" is going to be on the new album
+ I haven't listened to this in years (it's in storage), but I remember it being pretty cool