Brett (Login BrettAnderson) BW Member from IP address 18.104.22.168
Morrissey was once quoted as saying that no one over the age of 55 ever produced anything worthwhile (hence his planned retirement). I have a feeling that
Moz is going to be VERY jelous of The Next Day.
Incidentially...does anyone know when the video for Stars was filmed?
"Morrissey is literally a genius, despite the feud with David and such things"
Yeah right. Running to multiple media sources crying because Bowie didn't let him use his photo on his new album, (which Bowie has absolutely nothing do with) isn't something genius a would do. It's something a classless attention seeker would do.
Look at the thousands of headlines Bowie has made the last few months and even the last decade. They have all been focused around his music. He never made headlines for taking shots at other artists, no racists remarks, no comparing meat eaters to Nazi's. Never shoved his political views down peoples throats. Bowie is classy and Moz is the playground bully.
Moz is pretty essential for me. Very valuable in any discourse cos he takes an extreme or contrarian position and gets people to argue and think about it. He's blunt and not always right but he shakes things up...writes good songs too!
Genii aren't noted for playing by the rules or being consistently courteous either.
This message has been edited by tippidog from IP address 22.214.171.124 on Feb 27, 2013 7:19 PM
He's definitely rubbed his faire share of people up the wrong way in the past, but his heart is true and good and he has produced some incredible music. A great deal, in fact. And I don't think he compared meat eaters to Nazis - he compared the meat industry to Nazi death camps, didn't he?
David Buckley (Login DavidKB) BW Member 126.96.36.199
February 28 2013, 9:54 AM
I don't take everything Mozza says as literal truth. He's mocking JR more than he is critiquing Bowie... Mozza is an obvious Bowie fan. There couldn't have been a Morrissey without Bowie first and he knows this.
Pop stars are all luvvies bitching and dissing each other and then falling in love with each other again. One day when all the rock stars are dead, and I am still alive, I'll do a book about what people told me 'off the record'!
exploding man (Login BossofYou) BW Member 188.8.131.52
February 28 2013, 10:10 AM
I'm less forgiving than you about Morrissey. Everybody did everything for Bowie indeed! Well everyone does everything for everybody. Johnny Marr did a fair bit for the Smiths. The point is that Bowie chooses his influences, his friends, his obsessions and makes something new with them. Bowie wrote All the Young Dudes - himself. He wrote Lust for Life. He wrote Ashes to Ashes. He wrote John I'm only Dancing. He wrote Sweet Thing. He wrote Hunkydory when he was only 24. As I've said before, it's tempting to think that just because Bowie very rarely plays instruments on stage that he wasn't involved in creating the music. He is much, much more of a craftsman than people give him credit for. He has been observed numerous times writing songs in front of people, the anecdote from Dave Grohl of Bowie constructing lyrics out of a collage he made on the spot is one of many testaments to this.
"David Bowie is far and away the cleverest man I've ever worked with. Far and away. Absolute walking genius, David Bowie was, to work with. I did about 2,000 sessions in four years, and of all those sessions the person I learned more from, was David".
I know that saying this is considered a huge crime in today's world. But I think that The Smiths is the most overrated band of the world. Their music sounds so boring to me. Morrissey's personality is not boring though. He seems like a terrible person but some things he says are quite entertaining.