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james brown cover on the ziggy tour

February 18 2017 at 4:35 PM
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a french music journalist said recently on the radio that Bowie covered james brown during the ziggy shows. I never never heard about that in 40 years.
is it true ?
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February 18 2017, 5:51 PM 

'If You Dont Work You Cant Eat' written by James Brown - Hit for Bobby Byrd - covered on early Ziggy shows in 72 - available on Kingston Poly & Hemmel Hempstead bootlegs, but incorrectly titled on both as 'Gotta Get a Job'

both are on youtube if you search for Bowie - Gotta Get a Job. happy.gif


    
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February 18 2017, 6:17 PM 

(already answered)

The original by Marva Whitney and James Brown (1969): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12sLp2MqNbU

Bobby Byrd version (1970): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBPd6YVpIFE

Ziggy tour 05 06 1972: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OleCswMx7xc

Ziggy tour 05 07 1972: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5bFpxwNCNs



    
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February 18 2017, 7:05 PM 

A long soul workout that didn't really work with the Spiders, would have worked better live in 1974/75.


    
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February 18 2017, 7:32 PM 

Not a bad job but without the horns it really doesn't have that swing.
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February 18 2017, 8:18 PM 

On first hearing on the Kingston boot years ago it was mind bowing that he was pulling in that direction even then. It's a lot of fun and I still regularly listen to it.

 
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February 18 2017, 9:36 PM 

I like both versions...the Kingston Poly recording has long sounded a little 'thin' to me, but Hemel is quite hissy (not always a bad thing, but,,,)

now, I spoke with Woody Woodmansey after his talk about his book in Reading last year. I asked him if there were any unusual songs the Spiders played that he could recall. He had to think for a moment, he couldn't think of anything, but then said that they did do a reggae version of Space Oddity.

That is interesting, as someone who was at the original Beckenham Festival said that David played a reggae version that day. Clearly the idea of a reggae version of the song is something that had a little intrigue for him then.

Anyway, I mentioned in reply, did he remember them doing 'Gotta Get a Job'? I told him about it, and he said he never remembered it, and I think he said he'd be interested to hear it.

I made a mental note to put it on a CD, in case I was able to run into him after the Holy Holy gig I'm seeing in Aylesbury this year, but this seems a good place to say, if anyone has any contact with Woody here (perhaps Paul K does? happy.gif), perhaps tell him about the youtube links in the meantime.
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* Any future live 1974 release MUST include a recording of Drive In Saturday from the early part of the tour, it's classic!
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February 18 2017, 10:59 PM 

Fantasticide!!!
Great thread. Just downloaded song now
for when I get back to my cell later on today.🙉
Thank you v much
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February 20 2017, 4:51 PM 

Yes, that's true. For a band of bass, drum and guitar played by white britain rockers, that's not ridiculous.

The JB shows had a 15 of the best jazz and R'nB musicians, with 2 drummers. One of the historic drummer, Clyde Stubbefield, has died last weekend. The funky drummer. RIP.

And Bowie is funny, trying to impersonate James Brown in the beginning. Almost singing "good god" on the beat.

 
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February 19 2017, 11:17 AM 

Thank you so much !

The Ziggy period is not one my favorites, but how is it possible that I don't know that ?

I'm so happy to discover something "new" from our man.

That makes another important mark in the DB/JB or the DB/R'n'B map of crossed influences. I know DB was deep into R'n'B in the sixties since he heard the 62 Live at the Apollo (one of his favorite records of all time). He talked about Parisian and London clubs where JB was very popular. I know of course that JB stole "Fame" for one of his late 75 single (DB was very proud of that), I know Carlos played few gigs for JB in late 60's, I know DB and JB met once in 99 or 2000 (did they chat or did they just do a photo ?I love JB, but I doubt his conversation could really feed DB appetite for things).

Anyway, the Ziggy live cover of JB "You Got To Get A job" is something to hear.

Of course - as Nicholas Pegg says - the spiders were not a funk band. No one on earth can compete the funk of the 60's JB show. OK, DB on sax is a million light years from Maceo Parker. OK, the bridge sounds poor. That being said, I find the main groove quite funky. Something like the typical "db funk groove" from "Fame" to "Girl Loves Me". It's touching to hear them try to be "on the one".

The early Ziggy shows had such eclectic set lists: Brel, Velvet, JB. That's perfect snapshot of Bowie's career and of what made him so exciting.



    
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February 19 2017, 12:15 PM 

It would be great to hear some of this stuff in its perfect glory, it will hopefully come out one day, maybe for the next generation knowing how slow these things come through this could take a while, meanwhile enjoy , unless someone out there had something better.
P.S the Hemel version is the better quality !

 
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February 19 2017, 10:33 PM 

I heard distinct strains of 1984 in the beginning of that clip
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February 20 2017, 2:24 PM 

I always thought Got To Get A Job was piss poor -
although it wasn't helped by me first hearing it while being one of the
5 million unemployed in Thatcher's sinkhole Britain!
Or the fact that my Kingston Poly Vol.II was on extremely warped vinyl, so it all sounded shite!
Cost me 13 quid in 1983, too - which was most of a week's dole money.
Ironic really, given the song title...


    
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February 20 2017, 5:37 PM 

Maybe we have found the measure against which to judge a fan's cred?

 
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February 22 2017, 6:59 PM 

Loved it , Bowie was always dropping little hints about where he might be heading and this is no different !!!

 
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February 22 2017, 9:10 PM 

David Bowie was born David Jones. FYI.

 
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February 23 2017, 12:07 AM 

@ larranga lol and i rarely do that...but yeah all my money used to go on beer and music...and when i ran out of beer i sold my music collection...

very cool just had a listen and i was listening to jb today...there must surely be more high quality shows from this tour it had such production values but i'm pretty sure everything after 1974 must be sealed away nicely...


    
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February 23 2017, 8:14 AM 

As I Feel Free was on RarestOne, I'm amazed that, and Job / Hot Pants haven't been added to a ZS reissue. Would add an extra layer to understanding Bowie mid '72

AS30 got the audience recording of DIS after all.

 
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August 8 2017, 8:30 PM 

Hot pants would be great.

Keep up this discussion
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