Ages ago I helped during our local CERT Training. The trainers were showing us how to move people by using stuff around like chairs and such. They said they could lift anyone. So I volunteered. The ARES EC snorted loudly. Reason being is that I am not a light fellow. I'm over 440lbs on a good day. Needless so say they got me off the ground in the chair. But you could hear the metal bending and complaining in the process. Ah the fun times of helping with training.