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  1. DOC I NEED U. J, Jul 17, 2013
    1. I would say.... Doc Nickel, Jul 18, 2013
      1. TWB up for central california as of 1330hrs PDT.NT. Maker of Toys, Jul 18, 2013
        1. Which one?. Doc Nickel, Jul 18, 2013
          1. Colored strip from 7/17/13 w/cow juice explosion.. Maker of Toys, Jul 18, 2013
            1. Same results here NT. Mawson, Jul 20, 2013
      2. my reply. j, Jul 18, 2013
        1. Hmmm..... Doc Nickel, Jul 18, 2013
          1. $. J, Jul 19, 2013
          2. If this is like sleeving a brake cylinder.... Bruce Bergman, Jul 19, 2013
            1. Sleeving.... Doc Nickel, Jul 19, 2013
              1. Ahh, so that's the wrinkle. Bruce Bergman, Jul 21, 2013
          3. cost?. J, Jul 22, 2013
          4. just send it in?. J, Jul 23, 2013
            1. If you'd like.... Doc Nickel, Jul 25, 2013
              1. address. J, Aug 1, 2013
  2. J4 marker MSRP guess. Kilroy, Jul 17, 2013
    1. Way off. TippmannFreak101, Jul 20, 2013
  3. TWB 7/17 Ha ha ha "cow juice" I like it - n/t. Louis-Paul, Jul 17, 2013
  4. The cast page.... Lurid, Jul 15, 2013
    1. Yes, but will it happen?. swiftblade13, Jul 15, 2013
    2. Ah, the cast page.... Doc Nickel, Jul 16, 2013
      1. Filler. Spike, Jul 16, 2013
      2. I always wondered what happened to the 'new' cast pictures.... WolfWings, Jul 16, 2013
        1. Framed.... Chloe, Jul 17, 2013
          1. Any chance we could see those framed cast pages? N/T. Kasper onza, Jul 20, 2013
        2. thats a good idea... ill have to do that. nt. Mawso, Jul 20, 2013
      3. Re: Ah, the cast page.... Shadowydreamer, Jul 17, 2013
  5. need help from the paintball experts. 50blues, Jul 15, 2013
    1. Im guessing a modified stbb frame.. ta2maki, Jul 16, 2013
    2. Centerflag Uprising..... Doc Nickel, Jul 16, 2013
      1. thats it. 50blues, Jul 16, 2013
        1. Interesting idea. Renegade_Azzy, Jul 16, 2013
  6. X-ray airgun. Le_KiD_Qc, Jul 15, 2013
    1. Helpful diagrams. Steve Ronin, Jul 15, 2013
  7. Barrel Length?. Steve Ronin, Jul 15, 2013
    1. There's not a theoretical optimum, really.... DK1, Jul 15, 2013
      1. My thoughts (for whatever you think they're worth). Spike, Jul 16, 2013
    2. I always reccomend. Renegade_Azzy, Jul 15, 2013
      1. who are you, Dave Youngblood?. Nobody, Jul 20, 2013
    3. The Palmer rule of thumb.... Jeb Hoge, Jul 16, 2013
    4. The extent of my learning.... Deus Machina, Jul 16, 2013
      1. Flatline. Spike, Jul 17, 2013
        1. Flatline & JJ comments. neocool00, Jul 17, 2013
    5. well.... Cyco-Dude, Jul 22, 2013
  8. TWB - Minor typo. MarkT, Jul 15, 2013
    1. Without coffee! (N/T). Shadowydreamer, Jul 15, 2013
    2. eddi was right. Bruce, Jul 15, 2013
      1. Yes, but.... Phoenix, Jul 15, 2013
        1. Next step-they ask Doc for help (insert evil laughter) N/T. eddi, Jul 15, 2013
    3. And this.... digi_owl, Jul 16, 2013
  9. Okay Doc, what part in all of this might you have in it?. MephitMark, Jul 14, 2013
  10. Also for any interested, I just published the Morlock firmware. Curt, Jul 13, 2013
    1. nice. ydna, Jul 15, 2013
      1. Predator code. Curt, Jul 15, 2013
        1. ah hah!. ydna, Jul 15, 2013
          1. Quick thought.... Doc Nickel, Jul 16, 2013
            1. All over it. Curt, Jul 16, 2013
              1. I really like this Idea. Swifblade13, Jul 16, 2013
                1. thats all the plan. Curt, Jul 16, 2013
                  1. wifi? or bluetooth?. isuckatmoney, Jul 16, 2013
                    1. Challenge accepted... Curt, Jul 19, 2013
              2. If you need Android or iOS help ping me. Azreal, Jul 16, 2013
            2. I have a patent pending on that :). ydna, Jul 16, 2013
              1. What exactly?. Tippmann101, Jul 17, 2013
                1. Re: What exactly?. ydna, Jul 17, 2013
                  1. So..... Doc Nickel, Jul 18, 2013
                    1. ehhh. ydna, Jul 18, 2013
  11. DNA board progress, just about there. Curt, Jul 11, 2013
    1. good luck. jkeyser14, Jul 11, 2013
      1. Patent License - Would like to know myself.. cmo, Jul 12, 2013
    2. "Standard" USB?. Timberwolf, Jul 12, 2013
      1. Re: "Standard" USB. Joni, Jul 12, 2013
        1. Yep.... fullofpaint, Jul 12, 2013
          1. As a matter of fact... Curt, Jul 12, 2013
            1. Yep.... J.Cook, Jul 12, 2013
    3. Looks Excelent!. Pirate, Jul 12, 2013
    4. bootloader q. ydna, Jul 14, 2013
      1. Nope. Curt, Jul 14, 2013
  12. Aaaand we're back, with a photo dump!. Doc Nickel, Jul 11, 2013
    1. 18th picture. Kasper onza, Jul 11, 2013
      1. It's an Empire Trracer. TargetIndy, Jul 11, 2013
      2. "Interesting".... Doc Nickel, Jul 11, 2013
        1. Not so interested int he cylinder location. Kasper onza, Jul 11, 2013
          1. That would be the pump handle on the Trracer.. Fubarius, Jul 11, 2013
        2. Everything old is new again. Spike, Jul 12, 2013
          1. Good automags.... Murph, Jul 12, 2013
            1. By good I meant "never used as a hammer, and has all it's parts.". Spike, Jul 15, 2013
          2. Trracer and SL68II. Pump Scout, Jul 13, 2013
            1. Trracer. Spike, Jul 15, 2013
              1. Got to handle teh pre-production model. Renegade_Azzy, Jul 15, 2013
    2. Re: Aaaand we're back, with a photo dump!. Shadowydreamer, Jul 11, 2013
    3. Re: Aaaand we're back, with a photo dump!. eddi, Jul 12, 2013
    4. I thought you died - last week or so Docs Machine did not exsist.. IDN, Jul 25, 2013
  13. Anyone getting blue ?? Where the web tabs used to be on doc web page??.. Smorizio, Jul 10, 2013
    1. Weird thought for a Halloween costume for Doc and Bruno... Vulpis, Jul 13, 2013
  14. TWB Doc are you felling OK?. Donkey, Jul 10, 2013
    1. So the polar bear understands.... Junk Box 99, Jul 10, 2013
    2. Pressure cylinder???. Attic Rat, Jul 10, 2013
      1. Water filter. Nighthawke, Jul 10, 2013
        1. That was my first guess, but then.... Attic Rat, Jul 11, 2013
          1. The commercial setups have gauges.. Nighthawke, Jul 11, 2013
            1. Re: The commercial setups have gauges.. sstabeler, Jul 12, 2013
              1. Re: Re: The commercial setups have gauges.. John, Jul 12, 2013
                1. Payment for Silence on the pantsless incident?? NT. fredb, Jul 12, 2013
      2. Re: Pressure cylinder???. Vulpis, Jul 11, 2013
    3. Seriously Doc... Are you OK?. Wolf, Jul 10, 2013
    4. Of course he's okay.. Anon E. Mouse, Jul 12, 2013
      1. DIY espresso. Doc's evilest plan yet.. eddi, Jul 12, 2013
  15. doc, email bounced. weber, Jul 9, 2013
  16. TWB 8 July 2013. WolfFan, Jul 8, 2013
    1. but will he?. John, Jul 8, 2013
  17. TWB always the optimus. Donkey, Jul 8, 2013
    1. Re: TWB always the optimus. sstabeler, Jul 8, 2013
      1. wrong equipment. Louis-Paul, Jul 8, 2013
    2. Always the optimist.. Attic Rat, Jul 8, 2013
  18. Aw, crap.... Doc Nickel, Jul 8, 2013
    1. My condolences. Louis-Paul, Jul 8, 2013
    2. Hoist a beer in his name for us Doc.. Nighthawke, Jul 8, 2013
      1. Here here. nt. Renegade_Azzy, Jul 8, 2013
    3. Really sorry to hear it, Doc.... Jeb Hoge, Jul 8, 2013
    4. My condolences. Grumley, Jul 8, 2013
    5. Re: Aw, crap.... Shadowydreamer, Jul 9, 2013
  19. Okay people, could this be the future for combat aviation?. MephitMark, Jul 7, 2013
    1. you mean like a reaper drone?. FireFrenzy, Jul 8, 2013
      1. Re: you mean like a reaper drone?. Vulpis, Jul 8, 2013
        1. Or the 1/10th scale B-29. joecrouse, Jul 9, 2013
        2. Military drones.... John, Jul 11, 2013
      2. Nope.. MephitMark, Jul 8, 2013
        1. Older than you think. Anonymous Coward, Jul 9, 2013
          1. We used RC controled B25s and B17s that were on last legs. joecrouse, Jul 9, 2013
            1. And the only result of that project was.... CF, Jul 9, 2013
            2. Mythbusters goes airborne? ;-). Vulpis, Jul 9, 2013
            3. First I've heard of that one.. MephitMark, Jul 9, 2013
              1. They weren't designed to do that, actually.. Scott Herman, Jul 10, 2013
                1. The correct data, thanks. MephitMark, Jul 10, 2013
              2. Operation Aphrodite. joecrouse, Jul 10, 2013
    2. Re: Okay people, could this be the future for combat aviation?. Vulpis, Jul 8, 2013
    3. Someone's likely running with that idea.... JunkBox, Jul 8, 2013
      1. Re: Someone's likely running with that idea.... Vulpis, Jul 9, 2013
  20. Okay Nickel, I think I found you a truck you'd like.. MephitMark, Jul 5, 2013
    1. And one of these days.... Doc Nickel, Jul 5, 2013
      1. Heh,. MephitMark, Jul 5, 2013
      2. Re: And one of these days.... Shadowydreamer, Jul 6, 2013
        1. Well, "Nickel" is an amateur Frodographer.... CameraGuy, Jul 6, 2013
          1. Re: Well, "Nickel" is an amateur Frodographer.... Shadowydreamer, Jul 7, 2013
          2. But this is Frodography:. Someone, Jul 8, 2013
    2. I ran across a convoy/unit of these guys.... Daniel Meyer, Jul 8, 2013
  21. You know... I think they do it deliberately.... Doc Nickel, Jul 5, 2013
    1. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh. tmk, Jul 6, 2013
      1. I agree.... Doc Nickel, Jul 8, 2013
    2. Might be time to get worried. . .. Maker of Toys, Jul 8, 2013
      1. Not yet.... Doc Nickel, Jul 8, 2013
        1. Ah. . .. Maker of Toys, Jul 8, 2013
    3. Im guessing your email is down too.... Renegade_Azzy, Jul 9, 2013
  22. A little tool gloat here as well - Die cutting machine. Renegade_Azzy, Jul 5, 2013
    1. Nice. MarkT, Jul 6, 2013
      1. Why not?. Renegade_Azzy, Jul 7, 2013
        1. Space. MarkT, Jul 7, 2013
  23. Injet anodized printing?. Renegade_Azzy, Jul 5, 2013
    1. Interesting... But.... Doc Nickel, Jul 5, 2013
      1. Some of them can adjust to curves. Renegade_Azzy, Jul 5, 2013
        1. Another option.... Doc Nickel, Jul 5, 2013
          1. I've seen those cakes.. Jeb Hoge, Jul 6, 2013
          2. The cake printers are common in Toronto. Louis-Paul, Jul 8, 2013
  24. Paintball in schools?. Vulpis, Jul 4, 2013
    1. High school used to have paintball as a PE unit. CameraGuy, Jul 4, 2013
      1. Myself, and my fellow PB players wanted to.... Wolf, Jul 5, 2013
  25. Wave Solder Machine: Part III. Hans, Jul 4, 2013
    1. Waxed Linen Lacing Twine is still used. Nylon too. And the tools.. Bruce Bergman, Jul 4, 2013
      1. Sounds like a plan. Hans, Jul 5, 2013
        1. Now for the hard part, the power supply wiring.. Hans, Jul 5, 2013
          1. Power. Kymation, Jul 5, 2013
            1. Probably not a bad idea. Hans, Jul 6, 2013
              1. Neutral bus?. Kymation, Jul 6, 2013
                1. Yep, Neutral bus. Hans, Jul 6, 2013
                  1. Go buy a replacement neutral buss for a power panel. Bruce Bergman, Jul 6, 2013
                    1. Ok, think I got if figured out..... Hans, Jul 9, 2013
                      1. Maybe. Kymation, Jul 9, 2013
                      2. Depends on if the heater circuits are 120V or 208/240V.... Bruce Bergman, Jul 27, 2013
                        1. Heaters are all 240v. Hans, Jul 29, 2013
  26. TWB - 2013-07-04 - Happy 4th of July!. Retromash, Jul 4, 2013
    1. Hire Doc and Roger, get the Fire Dept and EMTs as an automatic bonus. N/T. eddi, Jul 4, 2013
      1. Re: Hire Doc and Roger, get the Fire Dept and EMTs as an automatic bonus. N/T. Shadowydreamer, Jul 4, 2013
      2. i just wonder.... digi_owl, Jul 5, 2013
        1. Re: i just wonder.... sstabeler, Jul 5, 2013
          1. Also National Guard and maybe an exorcist N/T. eddi, Jul 5, 2013
    2. Bipedal locomotion arms counter-balance legs. Joe, Jul 4, 2013
      1. Arms and legs. Spike, Jul 5, 2013
      2. Re: Bipedal locomotion arms counter-balance legs. Anonymous Coward, Jul 5, 2013
      3. Artistic tradeoffs.... Doc Nickel, Jul 5, 2013
        1. Well.... Bergman, Jul 5, 2013
          1. I already draw it big.... Doc Nickel, Jul 5, 2013
            1. Yep. Go Big at the start.... J.Cook, Jul 5, 2013
              1. The original file.... Doc Nickel, Jul 5, 2013
                1. Ouch,. J.Cook, Jul 6, 2013
                  1. Printing large image files. Attic Rat, Jul 6, 2013
    3. Doc and Roger in charge of Fireworks..... Wolf, Jul 5, 2013
      1. At least they are not using nuke any more.. eighttailfox, Jul 5, 2013
        1. Re: At least they are not using nuke any more.. WolfFan, Jul 5, 2013
          1. Re: At least they are not using nuke any more.. eighttailfox, Jul 6, 2013
            1. Was that a good scream or a bad scream in the first strip? N/T. eddi, Jul 7, 2013
  27. Field Names.. Shadowydreamer, Jul 4, 2013
  28. Looking for some Machinist on-line books.. MephitMark, Jul 3, 2013
    1. Manuals. Red KIng, Jul 4, 2013
    2. Look For MR Rating not MM. MR2, Jul 5, 2013
      1. MR manual (Sept 93). Red KIng, Jul 5, 2013
  29. Can't connect to the-whiteboard.com. Puzuma, Jul 3, 2013
    1. Re: Can't connect to the-whiteboard.com. Shadowydreamer, Jul 4, 2013
      1. No go. Puzuma, Jul 4, 2013
        1. Re: No go. Shadowydreamer, Jul 4, 2013
          1. Bell is gone. Puzuma, Jul 5, 2013
            1. re: Bell is gone.. J.Cook, Jul 5, 2013
              1. Re: re: Bell is gone.. Shadowydreamer, Jul 6, 2013
  30. Aw, F**K!. Doc Nickel, Jul 3, 2013
    1. *low whistle*. Robin Bobcat, Jul 3, 2013
      1. Machine tools.... Doc Nickel, Jul 3, 2013
        1. Re: Machine tools.... Donkey, Jul 4, 2013
    2. nice compressor.... sniper1rfa, Jul 4, 2013
    3. Re: Aw, F**K!. Vulpis, Jul 4, 2013
    4. Call the guy back, and educate him a bit.. Bruce Bergman, Jul 4, 2013
  31. was Micro-Morlock, now the DNA board dev blog:. Curt, Jul 3, 2013
    1. looks pretty damn god so far n/t. weber, Jul 3, 2013
    2. I don't even think I have a use for this.... DK1, Jul 3, 2013
    3. LDO heat?. levi, Jul 3, 2013
      1. Heck no. Curt, Jul 3, 2013
    4. Only one complaint.... Joni, Jul 3, 2013
      1. We fear change.... Curt, Jul 3, 2013
        1. Re: We fear change.... Joni, Jul 4, 2013
          1. Re: We fear change.... Shadowydreamer, Jul 4, 2013
      2. Re: Only one complaint.... Shadowydreamer, Jul 4, 2013
        1. If you don't mind my asking.... Urban Werebear, Jul 4, 2013
          1. Re: If you don't mind my asking.... Shadowydreamer, Jul 4, 2013
    5. Whats the t-shirt say??. BigMatt-MadCustoms, Jul 3, 2013
      1. looks like.... tmk, Jul 3, 2013
        1. right on. Curt, Jul 3, 2013
    6. on board size. ydna, Jul 3, 2013
      1. .7" wide? that's how tall this board is :). Curt, Jul 3, 2013
        1. Would you like a quote?. CMO, Jul 4, 2013
          1. Absolutely. Curt, Jul 4, 2013
            1. Will do.. CMO, Jul 4, 2013
              1. schematic... Curt, Jul 4, 2013
        2. yes buuuuuut. ydna, Jul 5, 2013
    7. Schottky diodes, and have you tried oshpark?. Scott Herman, Jul 4, 2013
      1. Ah, got the layout figured out.. Scott Herman, Jul 4, 2013
        1. wow.. thanks!. Curt, Jul 4, 2013
          1. No problem. Scott Herman, Jul 4, 2013
            1. well ya see... Curt, Jul 4, 2013
              1. sorry no A2D. Curt, Jul 4, 2013
                1. Feature creep: solenoid current control. Or charge pump!. Scott Herman, Jul 5, 2013
              2. Ah, the light dawns! (P.S. connect R3 and osc power!). Scott Herman, Jul 5, 2013
                1. damn you don't miss a thing. Curt, Jul 5, 2013
                  1. Yes, exactly.. Scott Herman, Jul 5, 2013
              3. What makes "low-dropout". Scott Herman, Jul 5, 2013
          2. What I can't figure out is where USB comes in... Scott Herman, Jul 4, 2013
      2. May also want to panelize it all too. Hans, Jul 4, 2013
  32. oh come on. donkey, Jul 3, 2013
    1. Nope. The invoking of Murphy has occoured.. eddi, Jul 3, 2013
  33. Sewing machine lathe. Robin Bobcat, Jul 2, 2013
    1. Looks like a waste of a good motor. Anonymous Coward, Jul 3, 2013
  34. Help ID this old lathe part.... BigMatt-MadCustoms, Jul 2, 2013
    1. Yeah, looks like a radius turner.. Deus Machina, Jul 2, 2013
      1. So how does it work?. Curious, Jul 2, 2013
        1. From what I can tell.... Deus Machina, Jul 2, 2013
  35. Do we still like the pictures here?. Mr Sparky, Jul 2, 2013
  36. Saw this in the news today.... Greebo, Jul 2, 2013
    1. Delta Force. Not on this post!, Jul 2, 2013
      1. $VOTE$. Spike, Jul 3, 2013
  37. My Promaster is a blender, Help?. nerobro, Jul 1, 2013
    1. Eyes not working?. Jeb, Jul 2, 2013
      1. Eyes are working. Balls blow up in the breach.. nerobro, Jul 3, 2013
    2. It IS a ProMaster :D. RobAGD, Jul 3, 2013
      1. What testing revealed.. nerobro, Jul 7, 2013
  38. None of the links are working for me.... Jordan, Jul 1, 2013
  39. Salvagable?. Steve Ronin, Jul 1, 2013
    1. New generation BE Talon Ghost? nt. Renegade_Azzy, Jul 1, 2013
    2. Civic Good. Spike, Jul 2, 2013
  40. TWB 7/1/2013 : Needed Repairs...... Wolf, Jul 1, 2013
    1. That's a very short tiger... (n/t). The J.A.M., Jul 1, 2013
      1. Obviously a Toyger. Bergman, Jul 1, 2013
    2. It's obvious.... Urban Werebear, Jul 1, 2013
      1. Re: It's obvious.... Raven, Jul 1, 2013
      2. Well..... OmniMech, Jul 1, 2013
      3. BEs were proof you don't always get what you pay for. eddi, Jul 1, 2013
      4. You get what you pay for. Bergman, Jul 1, 2013
    3. another reason for destruction.... InteliWasp, Jul 1, 2013
      1. It was safe. Bruce, Jul 1, 2013
    4. fully support. tagcrea, Jul 1, 2013
    5. You just need to love them enough, then they'll work just fine.. Fubarius, Jul 1, 2013
      1. Coolness,. OXX, Jul 2, 2013
        1. Whatever did happen to Stingray Toters Internet Group?. Gambit, Jul 2, 2013
          1. Fe: Whatever did happen to Stingray Toters Internet Group?. CF, Jul 2, 2013
            1. Re: Fe: Whatever did happen to Stingray Toters Internet Group?. Vulpis, Jul 2, 2013
    6. I'm actually moderately surprised. I_V, Jul 2, 2013
      1. A5. Spike, Jul 2, 2013
        1. Re: A5. I_V, Jul 2, 2013
          1. 98C vs A5. Spike, Jul 3, 2013
    7. Re: TWB 7/1/2013 : Needed Repairs...... Vulpis, Jul 2, 2013
      1. Doc's likely over at the chrony station, keeping the line moving Doc style. N/T. eddi, Jul 3, 2013
    8. All depends on the mindset..... Hans, Jul 3, 2013
  41. Killer little project.... Doc Nickel, Jun 30, 2013
    1. that is AWESOME!!!!!. Nobody, Jun 30, 2013
    2. My dad drove NSU. a Danish Lurker, Jun 30, 2013
    3. What you SHOULD go for.... jwhouk, Jul 1, 2013
    4. For some reason I always want to see properly aged engines in these things.... WolfWings, Jul 1, 2013
      1. One of the limiting factors there.... Renegade_Azzy, Jul 1, 2013
        1. there is something. Nobody, Jul 2, 2013
          1. What I actually wish.... Someone, Jul 2, 2013
          2. Oh gods, no, GET RID OF THE CARBS!. WolfWings, Jul 2, 2013
  42. Smallest v12 working engine. Smorizio, Jun 29, 2013
    1. pretty sure i saw that one before but DAMN n/t. FireFrenzy, Jun 29, 2013
  43. KM2 is Making a new Electronics Board. KM2 considering making a new board, Jun 28, 2013
    1. Reposted over at MCB.... Doc Nickel, Jun 28, 2013
      1. Oh and...?. Doc Nickel, Jun 28, 2013
        1. You have no idea... Curt, Jun 28, 2013
    2. Well, If You're Taking Wishlists..... Jaccen, Jun 28, 2013
      1. Done and done.. Curt, Jun 28, 2013
    3. Battery. Kilroy, Jun 29, 2013
      1. "yes". Curt, Jun 29, 2013
        1. Updates here?. Kilroy, Jun 30, 2013
          1. 10A peak? pff.. try 38 amps :). Curt, Jun 30, 2013
      2. ehh.... ydna, Jun 30, 2013
        1. Good point. Kilroy, Jun 30, 2013
          1. oh yeah. ydna, Jul 1, 2013
    4. My thoughts. MarkT, Jun 29, 2013
      1. Safety?. Doc Nickel, Jun 29, 2013
        1. umm... ya. Curt, Jun 29, 2013
          1. Response. MarkT, Jul 1, 2013
        2. Better yet. Nighthawke, Jul 1, 2013
        3. Not quite as bombproof, but less prone to failure.... Scott Herman, Jul 1, 2013
    5. You'll get my money, at least twice.. nerobro, Jul 1, 2013
  44. Cheap 2D CAD?. Doc Nickel, Jun 28, 2013
    1. AutoCAD LT. Johnny Logan, Jun 28, 2013
    2. Nothing cheaper than free. Le_KiD_Qc, Jun 28, 2013
      1. thanks that actually answers someones question. joecrouse, Jun 28, 2013
      2. There is open source.. Nighthawke, Jun 28, 2013
    3. There are many cheap/free alternatives to AutoCAD. DavidB, Jun 28, 2013
    4. Here's what our shop uses. chaotter, Jun 28, 2013
    5. Draftsight FTW. LongRange360, Jun 30, 2013
    6. How about Visual CADD?. Irregular Logic, Jul 1, 2013
    7. Definitely DraftSight. GladMech, Jul 6, 2013
  45. Girls' tournament.. Shadowydreamer, Jun 27, 2013
    1. Wonderin' about that myself..? NT. Spike, Jun 28, 2013
      1. The tourney.... Doc Nickel, Jun 28, 2013
        1. Re: The tourney.... Vulpis, Jun 28, 2013
        2. Re: The tourney.... Shadowydreamer, Jun 28, 2013
        3. The obvious excusee.... jwhouk, Jun 28, 2013
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