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  1. Jake and surprise.. T'Renn, Jun 5, 2017
    1. Mythbusters.... Snowtroll, Jun 5, 2017
      1. Artistic necessity.... Doc Nickel, Jun 5, 2017
        1. You could cover both. Bruce Bergman, Jun 6, 2017
          1. Best Solutions. PSadlon, Jun 6, 2017
            1. And. Khai , Jun 7, 2017
        2. Yeah, I know.... Snowtroll, Jun 6, 2017
          1. True. PSadlon, Jun 6, 2017
          2. Doubt that a child would be damaged by skunk spray or tomato juice. Jelsemium, Jun 7, 2017
            1. Poor kid gets nicknamed "Stinky" though n/t. eddi, Jun 7, 2017
              1. If the family is so far from everywhere and everyone. Jelsemium, Jun 8, 2017
        3. Ages ago. Zayden, Jun 7, 2017
  2. 8-20-2012 strip.... J.Cook, Jun 5, 2017
    1. A link for those who need it a nit to pick. Ferritecore, Jun 5, 2017
  3. Can we get an official statement. DemShadowwolf, Jun 5, 2017
    1. ... What?. Doc Nickel, Jun 5, 2017
      1. He talking about this video. Irregular Logic, Jun 5, 2017
        1. Let me say this about that. Typeminer, Jun 5, 2017
        2. Damn you all. Bruce, Jun 6, 2017
          1. Re: Damn you all. DemShadowwolf, Jun 6, 2017
      2. Sorry. DemShadowwolf, Jun 5, 2017
      3. How can you not know the narwhal video?. MarkT, Jun 5, 2017
        1. Re: How can you not know the narwhal video?. DemShadowwolf, Jun 5, 2017
        2. Excuse me?. Doc Nickel, Jun 7, 2017
  4. Nekkid Snow Leopard!. Doc Nickel, Jun 4, 2017
    1. Re: Nekkid Snow Leopard!. DemShadowwolf, Jun 4, 2017
      1. Translation:. T'Renn, Jun 4, 2017
    2. Will we be seeing this on Patreon shortly? N/T. Lord *redacted* the Censored, Jun 4, 2017
      1. Ha! No.... Doc Nickel, Jun 5, 2017
    3. The difference between nekkid and naked. Antknot, Jun 5, 2017
      1. Tim Allen.... Doc Nickel, Jun 5, 2017
  5. Eight months of machinery progress!. Doc Nickel, Jun 4, 2017
    1. Hey, is that the original Whiteboard in the background?. James, Jun 4, 2017
      1. That's the one!. Doc Nickel, Jun 4, 2017
        1. Curving a tag is easy.... James, Jun 4, 2017
  6. So, now I'm wishing I never pulled the head off this car..... Hans, Jun 3, 2017
    1. ...Sound plan but.... Lord *redacted* the Censored, Jun 3, 2017
    2. Strange. keantoken, Jun 4, 2017
      1. Pull sealant into the leak with shop vac?. keantoken, Jun 4, 2017
    3. What kind of engine?. Snowtroll, Jun 5, 2017
      1. Toyota 4AGE. Hans, Jun 6, 2017
        1. That's a cast iron thing?. Snowtroll, Jun 6, 2017
          1. Yep. Hans, Jun 6, 2017
            1. ...nobody makes 'em anymore, far as I can tell.. tmk, Jun 6, 2017
              1. That's why Pontiac doesn't exist any more. Dave H, Jun 7, 2017
                1. They don't exist any more primarily because.... tmk, Jun 7, 2017
                  1. Oh, I know.... Dave H, Jun 7, 2017
                    1. LOL XD. tmk, Jun 7, 2017
            2. Did you check the link I posted?. Snowtroll, Jun 7, 2017
              1. I did see the link..... Hans, Jun 7, 2017
                1. I see graphite gaskets on RockAuto a lot.... keantoken, Jun 7, 2017
  7. A strange mill posted on hackaday. Goldie, Jun 2, 2017
    1. Planer. Kunkmiester, Jun 3, 2017
  8. So when will Webcomcis get "discovered"?. Doc Nickel, Jun 2, 2017
    1. The Only One Epic Enough In Scope... Lord Reacted The Censored, Jun 2, 2017
      1. Re: The Only One Epic Enough In Scope... Dave H, Jun 2, 2017
        1. I disagree about Freefall. Jelsemium, Jun 2, 2017
          1. Disagree with your disagreement.... Doc Nickel, Jun 3, 2017
            1. How About... Electron Wrangler, Jun 3, 2017
              1. OTH. Chloe, Jun 3, 2017
                1. Over the Hedge movie and Freefall. James, Jun 3, 2017
            2. True, Freefall couldn't just be made into a movie as is. However.... Jelsemium, Jun 3, 2017
              1. Maybe.... ShneekeyTheLost, Jun 3, 2017
                1. Series. Kunkmiester, Jun 3, 2017
                  1. A TV Series would be great! n/t. Jelsemium, Jun 4, 2017
                2. The problem of a trilogy.... Doc Nickel, Jun 4, 2017
                  1. Yep.... J.Cook, Jun 5, 2017
                    1. D'oh!. J.Cook, Jun 5, 2017
                      1. You Should Be Embarrassed.... CF, Jun 5, 2017
                        1. I am.... J.Cook, Jun 5, 2017
      2. Doesn't have to be a direct translation.. Doc Nickel, Jun 3, 2017
      3. Netflix.... Kunkmiester, Jun 3, 2017
    2. Disney did option something recently. James, Jun 2, 2017
      1. Didn't know that!. Doc Nickel, Jun 3, 2017
        1. Re: Didn't know that!. Kendra Kirai, Jun 3, 2017
          1. Didn't know that, either!. Typeminer, Jun 3, 2017
            1. You *haven't* read Digger?!. James, Jun 4, 2017
              1. Amending that, gradually. Typeminer, Jun 7, 2017
        2. Agreed, DragonBreath or Hamsterprincess. Snowtroll, Jun 5, 2017
    3. My first thought is "when there's money involved". Jelsemium, Jun 2, 2017
      1. Clarifications.... Doc Nickel, Jun 3, 2017
        1. Two things. jwhouk, Jun 3, 2017
          1. Well... Chloe, Jun 3, 2017
            1. Voice of Schlock. Typeminer, Jun 3, 2017
              1. Speaking of Johns. DannyBeans, Jun 9, 2017
          2. Schlock. Kunkmiester, Jun 3, 2017
          3. Disagree.. Doc Nickel, Jun 3, 2017
        2. Marvel selling off rights. Nohbody, Jun 3, 2017
          1. Re: Marvel selling off rights. Kendra Kirai, Jun 3, 2017
        3. Re comic book fans in Hollywood. Jelsemium, Jun 3, 2017
        4. Re: The Titanic. Jelsemium, Jun 4, 2017
          1. The point there.... Doc Nickel, Jun 4, 2017
            1. Back to Freefall. Jelsemium, Jun 7, 2017
    4. Technically. Kendra Kirai, Jun 3, 2017
    5. When more books also get "discovered". Kunkmiester, Jun 3, 2017
      1. Monster Hunter International. Dave H, Jun 3, 2017
        1. Re: Monster Hunter International. Kunkmiester, Jun 3, 2017
    6. Re: So when will Webcomcis get "discovered"?. JSStryker, Jun 5, 2017
      1. Is that arc still going on?. Snowtroll, Jun 5, 2017
        1. No. Typeminer, Jun 5, 2017
          1. A pity.. Snowtroll, Jun 5, 2017
            1. That one's winding down. Typeminer, Jun 5, 2017
    7. You forgot Mystery Men. Snowtroll, Jun 5, 2017
  9. Jinx.... Kendra Kirai, Jun 2, 2017
    1. Jinx' payroll. Khan Fused, Jun 2, 2017
      1. 18. Can't remember which precise archive, but trust me :). ledamss, Jun 2, 2017
        1. The precise archive:. LostinAPhogg, Jun 2, 2017
  10. NEw Goggles!. Russell, Jun 2, 2017
    1. Looks like you need a team with them..... eddi, Jun 2, 2017
    2. They're not "new".... Doc Nickel, Jun 2, 2017
      1. Please NOT on the D-Day fields.... Snowtroll, Jun 7, 2017
  11. Advice, please?. Jelsemium, Jun 1, 2017
    1. That would by my thought too. MarkT, Jun 1, 2017
    2. Wrong guy to ask.... Doc Nickel, Jun 1, 2017
      1. Re: Wrong guy to ask.... Josh A, Jun 1, 2017
        1. "Send in the Fem'Hdar...". Lord Reacted The Censored, Jun 1, 2017
      2. precise reasons. Machtyn, Jun 1, 2017
      3. Re: Wrong guy to ask.... Moriniman, Jun 2, 2017
        1. + LOTS.... J.Cook, Jun 2, 2017
          1. Common courtesy.... beejay5169, Jun 2, 2017
        2. Re: Wrong guy to ask.... Retromash, Jun 2, 2017
      4. Hadn't thought about that. Jelsemium, Jun 2, 2017
        1. $4 for a ticket?. Snowtroll, Jun 9, 2017
    3. Old dude here..... Russ Kepler, Jun 1, 2017
      1. That sounds about right.... J.Cook, Jun 1, 2017
    4. No go on the clueless dude.. Z-man51, Jun 1, 2017
    5. This doesn't sound good. Typeminer, Jun 1, 2017
    6. maybe its just me..... paintballsycho, Jun 2, 2017
  12. Reasonable answer to a reasonable question (nt). PSadlon, Jun 1, 2017
    1. "You're wearing that?" - my sisters often enough. n/t. eddi, Jun 1, 2017
      1. Time to go shopping.. Z-man51, Jun 1, 2017
        1. Re: Time to go shopping.. Kandinsky, Jun 2, 2017
          1. On the other hand, for mid-summer, try this.... eddi, Jun 2, 2017
          2. Read the snowball fight.... Z-man51, Jun 3, 2017
    2. Similar to Jinx. OtterOfTheNight, Jun 1, 2017
      1. That's why.... Doc Nickel, Jun 1, 2017
        1. What could Cara wear? Why not ask Jinx? (n/t). beejay5169, Jun 1, 2017
        2. big and tall women. Machtyn, Jun 2, 2017
        3. Check out some online catalogs for fashion ideas. Jelsemium, Jun 2, 2017
    3. Jinx most likely has a number of "girl skills". Robert L Martin, Jun 1, 2017
      1. Re: Jinx most likely has a number of "girl skills". Kendra Kirai, Jun 3, 2017
        1. Re: Jinx most likely has a number of "girl skills". Dave H, Jun 3, 2017
  13. Doc, I found a car you might find interesting.. MephitMark, May 30, 2017
    1. Page expired. Machtyn, May 31, 2017
    2. I wonder if it was this car. Atomicvole, May 31, 2017
      1. That's the one.. Doc Nickel, May 31, 2017
  14. How old a polo shirt?. PSadlon, May 30, 2017
    1. I wondered about this earlier. Dave H, May 30, 2017
      1. Re: I wondered about this earlier. Eirik, May 30, 2017
        1. Re: I wondered about this earlier. Khan Fused, May 30, 2017
          1. Re: I wondered about this earlier. T'Renn, May 30, 2017
        2. I believe the term three piece suit doesn't include the shirt. Jelsemium, Jun 1, 2017
          1. I saw it in the window.... Bruce Bergman, Jun 1, 2017
    2. The reciprocal of that.... Doc Nickel, May 30, 2017
      1. Or a fire suit <nt>. MarkT, May 30, 2017
      2. Nomex Coveralls. ShneekeyTheLost, May 30, 2017
      3. Or a reciprocal that is properly sitcom'y. Khan Fused, Jun 1, 2017
        1. Another Sitcom Situation could be.... Jelsemium, Jun 1, 2017
    3. One Memorable Date.... Lord Reacted The Censored, May 30, 2017
    4. Your forgot his Hazmat suits. Ekuah (aka Hauke), May 31, 2017
  15. Memorial Day strip. Flying Wrench, May 29, 2017
    1. Red and Rover's Memorial Day Strip. Jelsemium, May 29, 2017
    2. Agreed. ShneekeyTheLost, May 29, 2017
      1. I've spoken with a few WWII veterans.... Snowtroll, May 30, 2017
        1. Re: I've spoken with a few WWII veterans.... Kandinsky, May 30, 2017
  16. Grinder Rebuild, almost finished!. Doc Nickel, May 29, 2017
  17. I like Swampy's version of Parcheesi!. Donkey, May 28, 2017
    1. I'm sure it is.. T'Renn, May 28, 2017
  18. Hey Doc. DemShadowwolf, May 26, 2017
    1. Gotta play it to photograph it.... Doc Nickel, May 29, 2017
      1. Re: Gotta play it to photograph it.... DemShadowwolf, May 29, 2017
  19. Parcheesi. Ron Bauerle, May 25, 2017
    1. India. PSadlon, May 26, 2017
    2. Forgot about that one.... Doc Nickel, May 29, 2017
      1. Well, one or two of those might work.. Deus Machina, May 29, 2017
      2. It could be worse.... Snowtroll, May 30, 2017
  20. So manyeuphemisms. PSadlon, May 25, 2017
    1. Re: So manyeuphemisms. Kendra Kirai, May 26, 2017
    2. Euphemism. BigNemo, May 26, 2017
  21. Working at the shop has been very educational for Jinx. lurker5253, May 24, 2017
    1. But.... Lord Reacted The Censored, May 24, 2017
    2. I have a feeling that when Jinx grows up.... MephitMark, May 24, 2017
      1. Two Words.... PSadlon, May 24, 2017
        1. Re: Two Words.... Antknot, May 25, 2017
  22. How we did at the first race - Car 9999. James, May 23, 2017
    1. Hot Damn!. Doc Nickel, May 23, 2017
    2. A little more good news. James, May 25, 2017
      1. Excellent work!. Derranged Gadgeteer, May 28, 2017
        1. A baseball analogy. James, May 28, 2017
          1. Re: A baseball analogy. JSStryker, May 29, 2017
  23. Between Pirta and Jinx.... FleetCommander, May 23, 2017
    1. Suspension of disbelief.... Doc Nickel, May 24, 2017
      1. Local stores/fields are starting to cater to airsoft now.. Jordan, May 24, 2017
      2. Have you seen the prices of model mechas?. Snowtroll, May 24, 2017
      3. More than PB store owners. Eggishorn, May 24, 2017
      4. the future of high street retail...... Kandinsky, May 25, 2017
        1. A couple of beers..... beejay5169, May 25, 2017
        2. Re: the future of high street retail...... Antknot, May 25, 2017
          1. Good lord you're going back many years!. Z-man51, May 25, 2017
            1. Service Merchandise. Nohbody, May 26, 2017
            2. They had at least one store in the Phoenix AZ area.... J.Cook, May 26, 2017
          2. Re: the future of high street retail...... Kandinsky, May 26, 2017
          3. Re: the future of high street retail...... JSStryker, May 26, 2017
          4. Boy howdy . . .. Typeminer, May 28, 2017
  24. TWB: 2017-05-23 - Coupla guys..... beejay5169, May 23, 2017
    1. Doc's dew.. Chloe, May 23, 2017
    2. 23/05. Welsh Rat, May 23, 2017
    3. hope he is not being paid by commission. Nevwyn, May 23, 2017
    4. Safe. Machtyn, May 24, 2017
      1. Jinx's skills with electro-whip and mallet keep the place safe. n/t. eddi, May 24, 2017
  25. Fun to look at. Mazak CNC Auction. How about a review Doc?. goldie, May 20, 2017
    1. Mazak sucks.. Lord *censored* the *bleeped*, May 20, 2017
      1. It was the operating companies. Kunkmiester, May 20, 2017
        1. Seconded.. tmk, May 21, 2017
          1. Thirded.... sniper1rfa, May 22, 2017
        2. Good to know!. Lord *censored* the *bleeped*, May 22, 2017
          1. yup - those are the kind of companies.... tmk, May 22, 2017
    2. Askin' the wrong guy.... Doc Nickel, May 20, 2017
    3. Mazak Lathes review. beejay5169, May 23, 2017
  26. So... is this a... Paintball gun? :). Doc Nickel, May 19, 2017
    1. It looks like one of those Mini-based guns.. Jordan, May 19, 2017
    2. Exactly my joke with a local friends.. Deus Machina, May 19, 2017
    3. Dangerous Power M3-A1 I believe.. Fubarius, May 20, 2017
      1. Well spotted!. Doc Nickel, May 20, 2017
        1. It does seem to have a scope on it. MarkT, May 20, 2017
          1. Wonder what?. Doc Nickel, May 21, 2017
            1. It's The Scotsman!!! 8D. tmk, May 21, 2017
            2. It makes me wonder why he didn't chop the ASA off. MarkT, May 22, 2017
              1. Identifier?. Doc Nickel, May 22, 2017
    4. Grindhouse- Planet Terror. Anonymous Coward, May 20, 2017
  27. Today's letter - B. Machtyn, May 19, 2017
    1. Miki. Welsh Rat, May 19, 2017
  28. Change your coolant, avoid PROBLEMS.. Lord *censored* the *bleeped*, May 18, 2017
    1. The price of stupidity is always high.... eddi, May 18, 2017
    2. Devil's Advocate.... Doc Nickel, May 19, 2017
      1. Maybe it was a bit over the top, but.... Snowtroll, May 19, 2017
      2. All good points.... Lord *censored* the *bleeped*, May 19, 2017
        1. The dumb thing about this. Irregular Logic, May 19, 2017
        2. Advocacy.... Doc Nickel, May 19, 2017
          1. Proactive Saves Money. Lord *censored* the *bleeped*, May 19, 2017
            1. Proactively planning pre Problems. kylekatern, May 20, 2017
          2. Unfortunately, it is the bad apples the ruin it.. MephitMark, May 20, 2017
            1. I've run into this.... Lord *censored* the *bleeped*, May 20, 2017
              1. Job ads. Kunkmiester, May 20, 2017
                1. Turnover.... Anonamoose cow-herd, May 21, 2017
              2. Yes, well .... Fish Preferred, May 21, 2017
      3. Coolant.... Kunkmiester, May 19, 2017
      4. Nonsense.... sniper1rfa, May 22, 2017
        1. That in fact would have shut me up completely.... Lord *censored* the *bleeped*, May 23, 2017
    3. It's usually not the coolant..... Russ Kepler, May 19, 2017
      1. And yet sometimes it IS THE COOLANT!. MephitMark, May 20, 2017
  29. a tool's unreciprocated love story. ledamss, May 18, 2017
  30. Rest in Peace, Antlercat.... Doc Nickel, May 17, 2017
    1. I'm very sorry to hear that, Doc. <n/t>. Dave H, May 17, 2017
    2. My Condolences. N/T. J.Cook, May 17, 2017
    3. Condolences. LostinAPhogg, May 17, 2017
    4. sad day. ydna-zds, May 17, 2017
    5. My condolences as well.. PSadlon, May 17, 2017
    6. Very sorry to see that Doc.. pilgrim3, May 17, 2017
    7. Really sorry to hear that. Russ Kepler, May 18, 2017
    8. I'm sorry for your loss. n/t. Flying Wrench, May 18, 2017
    9. So sorry. Steampunkhawk, May 18, 2017
    10. Sorry for your loss.... Daniel Meyer, May 18, 2017
    11. Sincerest Sympathies. Foxkatt, May 18, 2017
    12. Condolences. jwhouk, May 18, 2017
    13. I'm sorry for your loss. Jelsemium, May 18, 2017
    14. Awww. Liska, May 18, 2017
      1. Elderly cats.... Doc Nickel, May 18, 2017
        1. Re: Elderly cats.... Irregular Logic, May 18, 2017
          1. Males can be docile.... Snowtroll, May 19, 2017
          2. Docile males. Dave H, May 19, 2017
          3. My Females are more Aggressive!. Foxkatt, May 19, 2017
            1. They've all been female.... Doc Nickel, May 19, 2017
              1. Never pidgeonhole a Cat. Welsh Rat, May 19, 2017
        2. Hmmm. Liska, May 23, 2017
    15. My Condolences Doc (nt). Lars_B, May 18, 2017
    16. Sincerly my whole hearted comforts.. MephitMark, May 20, 2017
    17. RIP Antlercat, sorry for your loss, Doc n/t. JozsefC, May 20, 2017
    18. Damn, thats not how i wanted to start today. FireFrenzy, May 27, 2017
  31. Hey, the new sketchpad works!! (TWB 2017-05-17). beejay5169, May 17, 2017
    1. some twb jokes... smorizio, May 17, 2017
      1. Typo in May 17, panel 2.. SteelSterling, May 17, 2017
    2. Surrender. Timeheart, May 17, 2017
      1. A bed is not necessary.... beejay5169, May 17, 2017
  32. So, I went and looked at another lathe today.... Doc Nickel, May 15, 2017
  33. I think somebody has been sneaking peeks at TWB. Lars_B, May 15, 2017
  34. Anybody know a source for SMALL shaft seal repair sleeves?. Hans, May 15, 2017
    1. could you use. Renegade_Azzy, May 16, 2017
    2. Shaft repair?. Kunkmiester, May 16, 2017
    3. Dizzy repair. beejay5169, May 17, 2017
    4. Dizy repair part 2..... beejay5169, May 17, 2017
      1. All good thoughts. Hans, May 17, 2017
  35. Ermagherd! A Filler Sterp!!. Doc Nickel, May 15, 2017
    1. Excellent filler strip!. Typeminer, May 15, 2017
    2. Have you tried turning the comic strip on an off?. Nevwyn, May 15, 2017
      1. re. smorizio, May 15, 2017
    3. Tablet question. RandyXB9R, May 15, 2017
      1. Tablet question. RandyXB9R, May 15, 2017
    4. WTF is "he" using, an old Apple puck mouse?. PSadlon, May 15, 2017
      1. Logitech M325?. Snowtroll, May 16, 2017
    5. Paraguayan Navy. aairfccha, May 16, 2017
  36. The engine is a runner!. Hans, May 13, 2017
    1. And a bad parking brake cable. Hans, May 13, 2017
  37. Anyone up to speed on drawing tablet/monitors?. Doc Nickel, May 11, 2017
    1. Review videos. Machtyn, May 11, 2017
      1. UGEE 2150. Machtyn, May 11, 2017
        1. Not Sketchy AT ALL.... Lord Reacted The Censored, May 12, 2017
          1. Sketchy drivers. kylekatern, May 13, 2017
            1. Re: Sketchy drivers. Antknot, May 13, 2017
    2. sent you a smaller newer tablet last year or so.. smorizio, May 11, 2017
      1. Indeed you did.... Doc Nickel, May 11, 2017
    3. Yiynova repair service. LostinAPhogg, May 12, 2017
      1. 'Mailed 'em.... Doc Nickel, May 12, 2017
    4. Options. ShneekeyThelost, May 12, 2017
    5. Welp, I fixed it!. Doc Nickel, May 12, 2017
      1. Well, since it's already fixed real good... LostinAPhogg, May 12, 2017
        1. can we stick death whiteboard??. smorizio, May 13, 2017
    6. Im thinking hard. Renegade_Azzy, May 15, 2017
  38. So Swampy is a locovore.... eddi, May 10, 2017
    1. He's on a See-Food diet.... (n/t). beejay5169, May 10, 2017
    2. A Loco Vore?. Doc Nickel, May 11, 2017
      1. Locavore: One who eats locally sourced food.... eddi, May 11, 2017
  39. Re: 2017-05-09 -- Could Be Worse.... CF, May 9, 2017
    1. Re: 2017-05-09 -- Could Be Worse.... Dave H, May 9, 2017
      1. Re: Re: 2017-05-09 -- Could Be Worse.... CF, May 10, 2017
  40. doc how the new software doing??. smorizio, May 9, 2017
    1. New software.... Doc Nickel, May 11, 2017
      1. Re: New software. beejay5169, May 11, 2017
  41. Well-played, Doc! 2017-05-08. WolfenTech, May 8, 2017
  42. Possibility of printing books again?. Gergle, May 6, 2017
    1. The long and sordid tale of the books.... Doc Nickel, May 7, 2017
      1. Well... Chloe, May 7, 2017
  43. Hey, wait a minute, didn't I have a new mill around here somewhere?. Doc Nickel, May 5, 2017
  44. Cara obviously knows her man. PSadlon, May 5, 2017
    1. Wait, what?. Typeminer, May 5, 2017
      1. Depends on where the apartment is.... Bruce Bergman, May 5, 2017
        1. Either way I think Doc has established it'll be on the third floor. PSadlon, May 5, 2017
      2. That only works with guys.. PSadlon, May 5, 2017
  45. Latest MR2 video update - 'almost thaaaar'. Hans, May 4, 2017
    1. And then I snap off another bolt....... Hans, May 5, 2017
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