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Am I Missing Something?

November 1 2007 at 10:47 PM
  (Login jetta1967)
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I do have to say that I feel a bit weird posting. It seems like it has been a while because I don't have much to say and nothing seems to really change within me. I am still having a hard time and still have those moments where everything gets bottled inside and I pop with tears. It seems to me that H is becoming immune to it. No more tears from his eyes. What does that mean? Does it mean he is over it? Does it mean that he is ready to leave because I can't "try"?

I'm not sure how he wants me to try. I am afraid that I can't meet his physical needs the way he wants me to. He needs sex and how do I do that when all it does is make me cry? It makes me wonder if there is something wrong with me or him? If meeting his "needs" is very painful for me, how can he expect that from me and complain about it (and be upset) because he doesn't get it? Is he really being selfish and that just won't change in him? Or am I just a lost cause in that department of my life since it has been so deeply damaged.

So now I live with the treat of him having another A because he's not getting it at home. I can't put myself through the emotional pain that the sex causes me at the moment. It has made me feel cheep and used the few times we have been intimate (although he does tell me he loves me after...but is that what he also told her?). I just feel that all the damage and pain that he has caused us in our M is just too much for him to begin to repair. I say begin because, isn't it him who caused it? Isn't it his actions that helps the healing begin? Or am I just completely off in that? Am I looking for something more that is not possible for a WS to give? Am I expecting too much? Help!

Jetta

 
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Jerry Bond
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Re: Am I Missing Something?

November 2 2007, 2:22 AM 

Jetta, I am trying to listen to my body more and what it tells me.  As a man I have to listen hard (in general I believe women are better at this).  I notice more and more these days how my body is telling me things and is more reliable than my stupid mind (where I can make anything ok).  My problem is that I can't seem to communicate my feelings to wife.  I find it very difficult to get us into that place where inside and intimate feelings are expressed and I see this as a big habit between us.  I want to open but it does not seem to happen when we are together and I feel I want to move away from her physically.  I feel fear much more these days and I always thought nothing and no-one could make me fearful. 
I am not sure this is much help but I wanted to share that you should trust your body - and try to communicate somehow how you feel.  Now I must try to take my advice!

may you be safe and well


 
 

(Login hatsoff)
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Re: Am I Missing Something?

November 2 2007, 4:37 AM 

You need to worry about what you need. You don't feel comfortable being intimate. Then don't. Will he "go else where"?
Maybe. But you can't control that. His H wasn't about anything you did or didn't do. Nothing you do now can stop him from doing it again.

I don't say this to take away hope. He can also choose to not have another A. But you need to acknowledge what you can and can't control. You can only control you. You need to heal. You can't do that while you focus on him.

I support what Jerry says about listen to your own body. There is a reason you feel this way. It is not a failing in you it is just what is now. It will likely not alway be this way. The human body cannot maintain this level of pain indefinitely so it will natuarly fade over time but the key is to find the source of the problem now. Even is the pain does fade the problem will still be there if you don't.

Trinity

 
 
Ami
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Re: Am I Missing Something?

November 2 2007, 7:10 AM 

(((Jetta)))

I hear your torment, I am so sorry you are hurting so much. As I read your post I wondered what it was that you were looking for from your H. I don’t know whether he gets it or not, so to help I thought I would compile a list of some of the things “I” felt were/are necessary to determine if your spouse truly gets it or not.

1. A profound understanding of the dramatic wrong they committed.

Now this does not mean they look sorry, or that we as the BS have empathy for what we believe must be going through their head, but that they convey to you in words and deeds. Meaning they are willing to discuss every aspect of the A with you as you need. When they see your pain, they have compassion and do not shy away from it, but own it as something they caused. They discuss their introspection into what lead to the A in the present and what in their past, ie growing, past relationships, how these helped to make infidelity something acceptable under certain conditions (they should understand those conditions and explain them to you and how they view it now differently and why, and not just because they had an affair).

 

2. True empathy for your pain.

Not only are they willing to witness it, but they should encourage your sharing of it with them. When you do, they should validate the pain to the point that they understand as much as possible exactly what you are feeling each and every time they are with your pain.

 

3. An understanding that it will take as long as it takes.

Not just understanding, but a desire to be there to the end, no matter how bad it gets.

 

4. Total accountability.

This should come from them, because they want to, not because you need it, but because they want to regain trust.

 

5. Radical Honesty.

On every front, you can not be too honest.

 

6. You must be able to see from them a gradual building of sound boundaries that protect them against a repeat performance.

And Jetta, this has nothing to do with whether they are getting enough at home.

 

7. A willingness to seek help that comes from them not the BS.

Counseling, Marriage encounters, books, articles, etc…

******************************************

Now what about the BS.

We have responsibilities too.

1. An understanding that we have been hurt to the very depths of our being and to allow ourselves to hurt.

We as BS, pressure ourselves to get over it, because lets face it, we just don’t want to feel this way anymore. But we must embrace the pain, and allow the pain its rightful due. We should hurt, we have darn good reason to. Nothing to be ashamed of, or shy away from, or see as a weakness.

 

2. An understanding that it is going to take along time, and let it take its course by not forcing ourselves to walk on broken legs.

So many BS, Mwa included, want to be strong and see themselves as different from others. We believe we have some super human power to heal quicker, when the truth is we have no such magical ability. We are no different from any other hurt BS.

 

3. That healing has to do with personal growth, and is in the end, a solitary journey.

Having a remorseful WS is beneficial to the healing of the marriage, but it has nothing to do with the BS. Our healing is our responsibility and we must own it and take charge of it. We have to face our inner demons too, examine our past just as much as the WS does. Understand our views of relationships and where they are unrealistic, and if still in the marriage discuss all of this with our remorseful WS. If not still in the marriage then a counselor or spiritual leader will be helpful.

 

4. A willingness to seek help.

Counseling, Marriage encounters, books, articles, etc…

When reconciling…

Both the BS and the WS must recomit to the marriage at some point. It needs to be something that lays out expectations of both husband and wife in plane speak.

Most of all, couples reconciling need to work at restoring intimacy. This does not mean just physical intimacy. Intimacy has so many levels, and if these are met restoring the physical aspect will not be as difficult.

But Jetta, in my opinion, the physical part is just plan hard no matter what. I attacked this with a vengeance, as if I were at war with the disgust, images, and fear. We all have to find our way. But as I said if you and your WS have worked, that means both of you working together this is not a onesided thing, on all the other areas of intimacy that will help in the physical somewhat.

I have some excellent articles on intimacy just email me for them cbsy@msn.com

Ami


 
 

Anonymous
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Re: Am I Missing Something?

November 2 2007, 7:51 AM 

What an excellent post Ami

(((Jetta)))
I am sorry you are hurting. I can tell you from experience that even if a man is getting it every day at home it will not keep him faithful. If you are having sex for the sake of sex and you are not ready to make love, it is going to hurt emotionally. Like Ami said, if you work on the intimacy, and feeling safe in the marriage, the physical aspect will follow. If you are having images share them and let him know why you are hurting...it will bring you closer together. Take it slow. If he is remorseful he may be frustarted but he will understand he caused this and he will try to help you work it out by being there for you. Marriage really does take two fully commited people...the two of you can work this out together....with love, patience, and kindness toward one another...but most of all Jetta, be kind to yourself...dont push yourself too hard...we all get where we get in our own time.

~ CAL
"You, yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection" ~ Buddha

 
 
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