Hopefully now you OSU fans who want Tressel out know how ridiculous you all sound!

I can't remember the last time Tressel lost to a team that he was supposed to beat. Carroll loses at least once a year to a team he should beat.

Then again, in defense of you wack jobs, Tressel did lose to a team that lost to Washington (which was 0-12 in 2008), so maybe he should be fired!?

Ask So-Cali. I called this last week. Maybe not the actual loss, but I old him U-Dub had talent and Jake Locker was a decent QB.

3 fumblkes later and now OSU is really embarrassed...

"Falc, just because I respond, please dont take it to mean that I give a sh!t about you. I respond because you are the type of person that needs to be told what a whack job you are or else you will go on thinking your behavior is normal and accepted. "

Hats off to Washington and Steve Sarkisian, a Pete Carroll descendent...Carroll did not roll off a turnip truck, he coached under Earl Bruce in his very, very early days.

Now everyone knows why Aaron Corp did not start the season as the #1 QB...not laying the loss at his feet but clearly, Barkley has got a lot more game between the two.

I posted that what I saw in Columbus was not a #3 in the nation team. I was not kidding. USC could easily lose in South Bend and maybe a couple more Pac 10 games. We ain't that good. UCLA fans are jumping for joy in these parts.

Although the loss makes my Buckeyes look like a bunch of school girls, I am estatic over the loss. Any day USC loses is a GOOD day. In fact, whatever has the worse outcome for USC is what they should do. As for whether that is firing Carrol, I can't say.




USC LOST!! LOL.

The USC defeat hurts the Buckeyes big time and it hurts Notre Dame big time.
The last thing either team needed was USC losing to a bad football team.

Irish must be watching Bengal film...they try to make things hard at the end for no reason.

Plus...I think the Irish AD needs to stop creating games with the Big Ten and having Big Ten officials.
2 weeks in a row, that officials have been pathetic.

Floyd catches the ball, both feet in...no catch...review...no catch...no reason for calling it a no catch.
Either they are too old to be officials or there is something wrong.

19 flags in 2 games vs big ten schools....and they are comming at the most perfect time to help out the other team.
Notre Dame has his qb punched under the helmet...nothing...
Irish get 3 Per. Foul. flags and then one was just a straight up tackle by the ankles...
mind blowing...

"The last thing either team needed was USC losing to a bad football team."


Washington isn't bad at all this year. Last year had a bunch of injuries. Jake Locker was gone for almost the entire year. And they had Willingham giving up on them. Yeah, he's working the freezer in a Seattle-Area Grocery Store now since that's pretty much all he's qualified for.

I believe that Washington could be 8-4 or better this year--and could be headed to a bowl game. Shark's turning out to be a decent coach.





"So he got fired? Big deal. It's happened to the best of us. So he got kicked out of his house by his 400 lb'ed wife?!?!? That's probably better for him anyways."-OldSchooler on ChrisMBHater's absence

Better than last year...yes...a team that should beat the #3 team in the country...not yet.

willingham got fired by Washington...bunch of racist bast@rds...lol

I gotta say its kind of pathetic that there is talk about getting rid of Pete, and for what? For coming out and beating a top ten team and then having one loss? Granted, they don't look the best, but come on!! At least have the curtesy of letting one year go by in which he does not either win a NC or a Rose Bowl before throwing him to the wolves.

What a bunch of cry babies.

[quote]I gotta say its kind of pathetic that there is talk about getting rid of Pete, and for what? For coming out and beating a top ten team and then having one loss? Granted, they don't look the best, but come on!! At least have the curtesy of letting one year go by in which he does not either win a NC or a Rose Bowl before throwing him to the wolves.[/quote]

I agree completely. USC was in bad shape when he took over (the second tenure of John Robinson was unspectacular, and the Paul Hackett hire and era was a joke). Pete has built the Trojans into basically an NFL team. Unfortunately, they have the sense of urgency of an NFL team (in that they play to the level of their opponent too frequently).

Carroll and Tressel are both two of the best in the game. It is amazing how spoiled/stupid some fans are.

And Murf, right now UW worries me as a ND fan. This one is no longer going to be looked at as an 'automatic win.' The Huskies by that time may even be favored against the Irish. It would be nice to end the drought against USC, but there is no reason to label Washington as a 'bad team' yet. They certainly aren't Syracuse, and, of course, Syracuse beat the Irish at ND Stadium last year...

I am not saying that they are a bad team, just not a team that should be beating USC.

Notre Dame never has a given.
They are like the Bengals...teams they should beat by 30---close game..almost every time.

The Irish defense is pathetic..no db's that can cover one on one.
The offense took a huge hit with Floyd going down...that hurts.
He was probably a top five wideout...

We will see, they have to beat USC or the season is done.
Even if they run the table after losing to USC, the sports writers will make sure that they get some sh!t bowl.

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I did read the other day that the Big 10 and the Big East are both trying to make a push to get Notre Dame.
I think they need to join the Big East for several reasons...

#1 TV REVENUE--Big East will allow Notre Dame to keep thier tv contract and tv revenue...the big 10 wants control of schedule and split the money...that is not going to happen and should never happen.
Notre Dame created thier own revenue and they should never be forced to share that revenue with other teams.
As far as the tv schedule...as a fan, I say kiss my azz to the Big Ten wanting control...I want to watch the Irish every week, not some bottom feeder game or Ohio State vs Toledo game..
So the Tv contract and Tv schedule...Big East.

#2 Recruiting-- You already compete with the both in this area, so it is a toss up.

#3 Strength of Conf--Big 10 is slighty higher, but not that much..After the big 3 in the big 10, it is a toss up.

#4 Bowl Bids--Both are in the same category, so that is nothing major..

The bottom line is the Tv revenue and Tv schedule...if the Big 10 wants Notre Dame, they have to allow them to keep the NBC contract.
It would be suicide for the Irish to allow the Big 10 to dictate tv coverage...and in this region, a huge Irish market, we will be forced to watch Ohio State every week...
That would suck..

Point taken and right on most accounts.

I'm still a fan as staying independent, but when you see Big Ten teams schedule MAC teams 1-3 times per year while Notre Dame is playing BSC conference teams on a weekly basis, it does make me wonder how ND would do against a Big East or Big Ten schedule. And with one of those schedules, if they would keep the traditional USC and Navy games and then schedule another team or two (and if they join the Big East that would maybe mean an end to the Michigan/Mich St/Purdue rivalries, and any affiliation would make it difficult to keep BC and Stanford).

3 games are a must no matter what..but would be hard to pull off ever year.
Navy--this a must game....no other option.
USC--great rivalry, but would have to be an early game every year.
Michigan--great rivalry and would have to be an early game...

I think the irish would do very well in either.

I just think if the Big 10 is serious, they back off the NBC contract and sharing of the revenue.

I am all for staying as is...nothign wrong with it..

I think if Utah wants to be taken seriously, they should leave the WAC...
You don't have the freedom to build, you are restricted by dorks sitting behind the desk...
If you are on your own...you create your schedule, you dictate your tv revenue and your recruiting is wide open.

The problem with that theory is the nielsen ratings don't back Notre Dame up anymore. Look at the last 10 years versus the time before that. Each year, they keep getting lower and lower (I think they had a rise in the 8-0 season of Tyrone and Charlie cheeseburgers first years).

The domers may be losing their NBC contract. Its too much to pay out for to little return. This was a good arguing point about 9-10 years ago...

"Falc, just because I respond, please dont take it to mean that I give a sh!t about you. I respond because you are the type of person that needs to be told what a whack job you are or else you will go on thinking your behavior is normal and accepted. "

Granted, I don't follow college football as closely as most here but I don't remember the last time I gave a damn about Notre Dame.

While I know it's tradition, I find the idea of independent teams ludicrous. The problem I have with following an independent is: if it isn't playing for the national title, what is it playing for?

At least with conference teams, there's always the conference title to shoot for so that you can say you're aiming to be the champion of something. With Notre Dame, it's national title or bust. And there's no playoff to bail them out from not being #1 or #2. Thus it has been so far removed from the national title chase since it's first loss of 2002 that I don't see the relevance of their games.

BMN