As the season heads down the back stretch, we need one of the high school teams to knock off Boise.

After watching Texas-Oklahoma...Ohio State-Purdue...Notre Dame-USC....
Seeing clips of Florida and about a half of the Bama game yesterday....

The Bearcats can play with the Big Dogs. (with a healthy Pike)

Vtech going down like they do every single year...was a huge break.
Boise has to lose, it would be a travesty to watch the Bearcats get bumped by a team that will play not a single top tier team in college football...ok 1 team.

Florida and Bama will take care of that debate on the field.

Buckeyes need a qb, it is that simple.
Good defense, nice run game, weapons on the outside...no qb..TP is bad!

Irish---
I am not upset at all at what I watched yesterday..shows the talent gap has closed a bit.
Notre Dame still needs play makers on defense, too many wide open/busted coverages.
The o-line played like little b!tches in the first half, but came out in the second half and played rather well.
#22 Smith..got benched and the defense played better after he got his azz waxed on the sidelines.
How many times can you allow a 6-7 Tight end, release and run down field and you forget to cover him?
#93 I believe his name is Griffin, the D-end for USC...a force..that guy is a beast.

I think claussen is still a Heisman favorite.
He is playing injured and when given time...is about the most accurate passer in college football and with what he did yesterday in the second half against that defense...he should be up on top of the list...

Just glad to see the Irish making huge strides here.
A total of 8 yards away from being undefeated against a very strong schedule.

Keep predicting the Irish to be great Nostradamus... once in 20 years you will be right on (see bengals thread)... life is good.

If Boise State looses it is their own fault. They should win out, and that being the case, they will stay ranked higher than the Bearcats. I'd love to see Boise State take on UC in a bowl game, don't think either team will get invited to the big dance...which will be a shame if they are both undefeated. I can't really be a UC fan, I didn't go to college there, didn't care about them when I was a kid (although I did go to one game) and just don't feel right for picking up a team...even my hometown team... when I never cared about them when they were bad.

That being said, I'm rooting for them to do well because they are my hometown team.

"Well, it ain't braggin' if it's true
Yes sir, yes sir
It ain't braggin' if it's true
Muhammad Ali said that
Back when he was a young man
Back when he was Cassius Clay
Before he fought too many fights
And left his brain inside the ring"

I have been a UC fan since the days when they played ay Riverfront. They were getting blow out by Miami and PSU and WVU.....of course I remember a few upsets in there,.

btw - I went to the Red River game yesterday. Was that ever ugly. But the ladies there were faaaar from it. Nothing better than a bunch of texas and oklahoma women together in their short dresses and boots.

Did not try the fried butter...or anything fried for that matter,.

...Haven't seen much of your boys at ND but the little I have, it seems to me Claussen needs to learn how to step up into the pocket. Sees a rush from the outside and he retreats. Bad habit.

Dacow...I said the same exact thing...that is scary.
He tends to have happy feet, but when he stands in there and is comfortable, he is a deadly accurate.

Boise should never play for a National Title..sorry but you can't play a 3rd tier schedule and cry to paly a National Title.
They might be good enough to play, but you seriously that schedule is silly.

Irish...
They had 2 bad football coaches back to back..
It takes time to rebuild a destroyed program, let alone at Notre Dame where education and academic standards are slighty higher than your average football factory.
Not an excuse, just the truth.


Buckeyes need to say to Pryor...learn how to play wideout..your days as a qb are over.
He might cause that program to fall under the radar for a few years.

muyrf - I agree with you that pryor needs to go to WR....however Tessel is going to be the cause for them to fall under the radar now. I think scUM beats up on OSU for the next few years as they have figured out the spread (and we stick to big 10 slow football)  Tressel will get the boot and we hire Brian Kelly away from UC.

T

Boise gets the shaft schedule wise because nobody will play here. They have to schedule a home game once in a while so when they try to get the big teams in they negotiate for a one home one away over two years. Nobody will play here.

I can't wait till we get into the Mountain West.. we will be better just by playing BYU, TCU and Utah.

"Well, it ain't braggin' if it's true
Yes sir, yes sir
It ain't braggin' if it's true
Muhammad Ali said that
Back when he was a young man
Back when he was Cassius Clay
Before he fought too many fights
And left his brain inside the ring"

Belko, they would be better atleast from a schedule stand point.
I am not a Boise basher, they might be as good as any team in college football, I don't know, never get to watch them in this region, but, I could never cheer for them in a National Title games based off of thier schedule.

If Boise wins out and Cincy, UT and Iowa all lose, Boise should be in the BCS championship.

"Falc, just because I respond, please dont take it to mean that I give a sh!t about you. I respond because you are the type of person that needs to be told what a whack job you are or else you will go on thinking your behavior is normal and accepted. "

"If Boise wins out and Cincy, UT and Iowa all lose, Boise should be in the BCS championship."


BCS'ers would put in a 2-loss USC and a 1-loss Florida Team then put in Boise State. It's not happening, sir. Not this year, not next year, not even the next year. And why Boise State thinks they're any better playing Mountain West Teams? I have no idea. What's the difference in playing Fresno State and Nevada or Utah and BYU? Mountain West still isn't aligned with the BCS. So what's the difference in playing Utah State and Wyoming? NOTHING. It still sucks.

If Boise really wants to go somewhere--then apply for PAC-10 status. They have proven that they can beat PAC-10 Schools--so go for something really spectacular--not a falsehood. Play all the Hawaii's and UTEPs you want--it still isn't taking you anywhere whatsoever.




"So he got fired? Big deal. It's happened to the best of us. So he got kicked out of his house by his 400 lb'ed wife?!?!? That's probably better for him anyways."-OldSchooler on ChrisMBHater's absence

If we got into the pac 10 that would be astounding and I would be overjoyed.

"Well, it ain't braggin' if it's true
Yes sir, yes sir
It ain't braggin' if it's true
Muhammad Ali said that
Back when he was a young man
Back when he was Cassius Clay
Before he fought too many fights
And left his brain inside the ring"

Bronco--with that schedule Boise should not even play in a BCS game, let alone the championship.
Sorry, but you can't allow a team to play that high school schedule and then thump their chest like they are something special.
Texas won a national title a few years back and they should have never played in that game.

Take the schedule as is...this year, not based on conference or anything else...take the games on that calendar year and compare the quality of the teams vs other schedules and then decide.

All conferences have bad runs, I will say that the Big 10 is in a bad funk right now, but the top 4 teams in that league would be undefeated against Boise schedule..

place Boise in any major conference...and tell me where they would finish.
ACC might be the best case for them..

Murph,
we have a week schedule correct... But you are simply incorrect in your assumption that we can't compete. We beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl after a schedule year just about the same as this years, and we have beaten Oregon twice in the last two years. You can't tell me that you think the top 4 teams in the big 10 would be Oregon... and we beat them twice in two years. Yes we need a tougher schedule... but can we compete... you better believe it.

"Well, it ain't braggin' if it's true
Yes sir, yes sir
It ain't braggin' if it's true
Muhammad Ali said that
Back when he was a young man
Back when he was Cassius Clay
Before he fought too many fights
And left his brain inside the ring"

I am not sayign that you can't compete against solid programs, what I am saying is that it would be harder to compete week in and week out against solid programs.

Seriously, do you believe you can win any confrence right now.
Big East--no, but willing to go 50/50
ACC--maybe..pretty sad year
Big 10---no
Big 12---no
SEC---HELL NO
Pac 10--No

They simply are not there yet...that is not their fault, I give you that, but it is still a problem when talking about a national champion.

Right now as a UC fan....we need
Ohio State to beat Iowa or someone in the Big 10.
Texas to lose.
USC to go down again...don't know why, but the media loves to give USC a ton of love for losing early.

Would help matters even more if Florida would go down and then beat Bama in the SEC championship game, but that is crazy talk.

You are just hard headed...

who is winning PAC 10 right now at 5-1 and 4-0 in the Conference? Who beat that team the last 2 years.

I don't know about this year.. but who beat the 06 Big 12 conference champions?

Murph... I agree conference schedule is week.. it is..it sucks... but you can not lay down a blanket and say just because we don't play in one of those conferences we can't beat the teams in them...that has been proven incorrect.



"Well, it ain't braggin' if it's true
Yes sir, yes sir
It ain't braggin' if it's true
Muhammad Ali said that
Back when he was a young man
Back when he was Cassius Clay
Before he fought too many fights
And left his brain inside the ring"

You are not reading what I am saying...

Of course the can beat a team from time to time...do you believe they can win in that conference year in and year out?
I don't think so.

I don't think they can win week in and week out in any of those besides the ACC and for debate sake, the Big East.
I don't see Boise rolling thru the Big 10, even though I don't think the Big 10 is all that special of a conference right now.
I don't see Boise playing on the road at Michigan/Ohio State/Penn State or even Michigan State or Iowa.
the SEC....seriously, you believe that they can win 9 or 10 games in that league and win a Conference Championship game after that brutal season?

I am not being hard headed, I am being realistic.

I don't think Notre Dame or Ohio State or even Texas or Oklahoma could pull that off this year.
The National Championship should be the SEC Championship if Florida and Bama are playing.

Murf May.....if your Irish were playing in the SEC, they'd lose 10-12 games a year. you Irish are as Overrated as the Buckeyes. the football team doesn't have the stones to play REAL teams. their schedule consists yearly of eight or nines they have a better chance of beating, namely Standford and Wash St. the only team they have blown out this year was.....lemme see...Nevada 35-0. the mighty Nevada Wolfpack. USC should quit playing them, but they probably like having someone to beat up on before they play a key game. Notre Dame is USC's punching bag just Ohio St is the SEC's punching back. the football team probably doesn't have the stones to play in a conference like all the other teams do. now...go back to practicing the Victory Clog for your wife

Steelerlove...I love debating idiots like you.
Instead of bashing the other teams, talk about your taeam and lets comapre scheduels on a yearly basis.
Out of conference schedules and conference schedule...

I didn't think so...now get back to the penis, your boydfriend is not done yet!

I firmly believe this--that if you put Boise State in the PAC-10 RIGHT NOW--then they contend for the PAC-10 Title. And yeah--that means giving USC a run for their money too. They have the right coach, the ballz, and the right players to contend. What bugs me about Boise State is the Fresno Game. They couldn't stop the run to save their azz.

However, they beat the PAC-10 Conference LEADER in the 1st Game of the Year--SOUNDLY. That's why I say they contend. And how is Boise able to recruit? Because Boise is underrated. It is actually a very mild winter. It has a decent nightlife. And the nature is unbelievable. The Coach works his azz off recruiting. He has to.

Plus, look at this for the PAC-10--look at everyone else besides USC and Oregon. You have messes. Total messes. Washington State? California? Even Washington and Arizona State? I think Boise States kills all those teams.

Boise State could be a real contender in the PAC-10. Trust me, Murf.





"So he got fired? Big deal. It's happened to the best of us. So he got kicked out of his house by his 400 lb'ed wife?!?!? That's probably better for him anyways."-OldSchooler on ChrisMBHater's absence

Falc.. sometimes you hit a homer


Boise is underrated by the way. Here it is sunny all year long, all women are beautiful and downtown is thong central...

Belko, its high time for a Bronco visit. I must see these thongs on these beautiful women. I assume there are a good number of cougars up there, no?

"Falc, just because I respond, please dont take it to mean that I give a sh!t about you. I respond because you are the type of person that needs to be told what a whack job you are or else you will go on thinking your behavior is normal and accepted. "

You have to be very wary about making judgements about teams from one or two games. First of all, the games are not bowl games. This makes a tremendous difference. For example, USC loses to a token bad team every year but then bounces back into a BCS bowl and then proceedes to destroy their opponent by 30 points or more. Also, it is very hard judging a team like Florida barely making it past Arkansas. If I remember correctly, the same thing happened right before OSU played them in the NCG and I was licking my chops. I never considered the fact that Arkansas could probably destroy OSU, simply because of the retarded ranking system.

Take it from someone who learned the hard way, most of the SEC probably belongs in the top ten rankings. Of course, they won't do this to help create an illusion of parity.

Having said that, Boise state plays pretty well in Bowl games...

"Falc, just because I respond, please dont take it to mean that I give a sh!t about you. I respond because you are the type of person that needs to be told what a whack job you are or else you will go on thinking your behavior is normal and accepted. "

Bronco...they call it cougaropolis

"Well, it ain't braggin' if it's true
Yes sir, yes sir
It ain't braggin' if it's true
Muhammad Ali said that
Back when he was a young man
Back when he was Cassius Clay
Before he fought too many fights
And left his brain inside the ring"

Oregon Ducks 47
Southern Cal Trojans 20

WOW!

USC got b!tched slapped!
Iowa should have lost, the Big 10 officials are as bad as the SEC's.
Score should have been 28-7 going into the 4th qtr.
The guy caught the football, had a foot and part of his leg down, no bobble...complete control...INCOMPLETE?
Just like the Notre Dame-Michigan game---Floyd makes a great catch, foot down, no bobble...INCOMPLETE...
The Big 10 officials review it and apologize, but the record still stands...
Get some real refs in the BIG 10!

UC should be 4th in the BCS standings...no excuse for them not to be.

Frank: "We Are Trying On Every Front To Increase The Role Of Government"

Stepping back and reflecting about USC's loss, I can't help but sadly reflect that the Big 10 is not Big Time. At least it hasn't been for a generation.

USC knocks off the best Big 10 team in Columbus. Michigan has been a national laughingstock for a decade. It goes on and on.

The Big 10, the MAC and Notre Dame should colloborate on a second tier, regional set of Bowls, and not embarrass themselves by trying to compete on the national scene come December and January.

I grew up an adamant Big 10 defender and an OSU fan. Facts have wore me down over the last couple of decades.

From what I have observed thus far, I would say that Oregon should be in the top 5 and probably contend for the title. However, if things go as they always do, Texas will play Florida for the NCG and meet the same fate the Big Ten meets when facing them. In fact, I would say that the best in the Big 12 is comparable to that of the Big 10......at least that has been the case every time OSU faces Texas just as it was last year.

I know all you guys are just itching to have Cincinnati play Florida, but come on. Who or what has Cincinnait ever beat of significance in their entire history? The SEC is the league to beat and this has been the case for a very long time now. In fact, OSU has an 0-9 record against them. Just add to the equation that USC has beaten every big Ten team they have faced for the last 30 years by an average point spread of about 30 points and what you wind up with is the conclusion that perhaps the SEC and PAC 10 should be facing off every year in the Rose Bowl or NCG.

Of course, the Big East and ACC are less predictable. For example, when WVU destroyed Oklahoma in a BCS bowl a few years back, I was shocked. But then again, it is like playing the Big Ten.

UC is playing awesome. They have made me forget OSU this year.

I flipped back and forth of the UC and OSU games yesterday.

OSU - That was the ugliest and worst 45-0 blowout I have ever seen. TP is not a QB and never will be. He has eyes only for Posey. The buckeyes Offense is predictable and inept. I hope Tressel makes some much needed changes.

T

"Falc.. sometimes you hit a homer"--Tom


Not only that--but I also predicted that Boise would beat the sh*t outta Oregon--then Oregon gets their sh*t together--and kicks the sh*t outta USC in October. That was 2 weeks BEFORE the BSU Game. Mark McGwire and Barroid Bonds ain't got sh*t on me. LOL!!!!!!

So, since that all happens, I'll go ahead and say these two things:

1. I've been saying all along that Oregon is underrated. I wonder if the pollsters will start paying more attention to Oregon now?

2. Boise State has bested the Pac-10, AGAIN. I believe that they SHOULD compete for the National Title, if it comes to that.

BONUS: IF BOISE STATE AND OREGON PLAYS NEXT WEEKEND, WHO WOULD WIN? I think this game would be different now. Oregon is white-hot--and could be one of the hottest teams in the country. Did you see how easy they were making their offensive drives look against USC? The one offensive drive in the 3rd quarter was PERFECT. They didn't make one damned mistake on that drive. I haven't seen a drive like that in a while. That's pretty scary to me. If I were even TEXAS OR ALABAMA--I wouldn't wanna face a team like this. They are hot.





"So he got fired? Big deal. It's happened to the best of us. So he got kicked out of his house by his 400 lb'ed wife?!?!? That's probably better for him anyways."-OldSchooler on ChrisMBHater's absence

If Boise State goes undefeated a second time...then you have to give them title game consideration in the future to avoid any more controversy. If they go to another BCS game and beat a "real team," it will then be too much to ignore. Even if they typically have a cupcake schedule.

With Hawaii a few years back, it was dead-easy. They went undefeated, their backers complained "why no title game?" but then UGA exposed and annihilated them and that was it: no more controversy. But right now, Boise State can at least say they beat (nay, dominated) Oregon and Oregon beat (nay, dominated) USC...so who's to say they don't warrant mention among the big boys until someone proves otherwise?

BMN

Not only that, but Boise has proven it can play with the big dogs (Oklahoma) and win. They have their signature win and every week that win looks better and better.

As much as I love UC, the Big East is having a down year. Cincy and Pitt are good to great. WVU is ok but falling fast. USF, UCONN and Rutgers are jokes. I wont even bring up 'Cuse and Louisville.

"Falc, just because I respond, please dont take it to mean that I give a sh!t about you. I respond because you are the type of person that needs to be told what a whack job you are or else you will go on thinking your behavior is normal and accepted. "

Who or what has Cincinnait ever beat of significance in their entire history?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The past history has nothing to do with this season.
Right now, this year, they have played a harder schedule than Boise St.
If Iowa runs the table, they should trump Texas, b/c Texas has a weak as schedule as well.

What would be great is if...
FLORIDA/TEXAS/BEARCATS/IOWA all go undefeated.
That would send the playoff lawsuits into full attack mode.


Frank: "We Are Trying On Every Front To Increase The Role Of Government"

The history of who they have beaten has no significance? Why not then just put an undefeated high school team in the NCG? Of course the teams they beat bears all the significance in the world . After all, it is why Boise State NEVER gets any respect. Respect is earned, not assumed. If teams like Cincinnati and Boise State want respect, they must earn it. In fact, Cincinnati failed miserably in the Orange Bowl last year and this should weigh heavily on future bowl match ups.

I never even considered Iowa beating out Texas for the NCG. LOL. Believe it or not, I think OSU might knock them off simply because OSU thrives on defensive scoring and the Iowa QB turns the ball over more than TP. Of course, the difference is that the Iowa QB can actually throw the ball. If it all comes down to dollars and cents, as most everything does, I say Texas gets the nod ahead of Iowa if Iowa goes the distance simply because they should travel better and generate better revenue overall.

Oregon will jump Boise State in the polls within 2 weeks...   I agree Oregon is white hot, I agree that if they played tomorrow, then the result may be different.  That being said... they are not playing tomorrow and all you have to go on is that when the two teams played Boise State beat them.  Leap frogging is just plain B.S.

"Well, it ain't braggin' if it's true
Yes sir, yes sir
It ain't braggin' if it's true
Muhammad Ali said that
Back when he was a young man
Back when he was Cassius Clay
Before he fought too many fights
And left his brain inside the ring"

Oregon wont jump Boise. Neither the coaches nor the writers would do that. If they did, it would be a fraud.

"Falc, just because I respond, please dont take it to mean that I give a sh!t about you. I respond because you are the type of person that needs to be told what a whack job you are or else you will go on thinking your behavior is normal and accepted. "

In 2007, the University of Missouri was denied a spot in a BCS bowl even though it defeated the (1-loss) University of Kansas and the (3-loss) University of Illinois, which were both granted BCS bowl bids. Missouri was ranked higher than both Kansas and Illinois in the BCS poll before bowl selection.

 

I bet they are ahead of us in 2-3 weeks.

"Well, it ain't braggin' if it's true
Yes sir, yes sir
It ain't braggin' if it's true
Muhammad Ali said that
Back when he was a young man
Back when he was Cassius Clay
Before he fought too many fights
And left his brain inside the ring"

If you are saying that the history of the teams should play into the this current season to determine the National Champion, then I will tell you that College football is a fraud and there is no such a thing as a National Champion.

That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard, considering college teams change over year after year.
The 2005 Buckeyes have nothing to do with the 2009 Buckeyes...same helmet, but different players.

THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME SHOULD BE PLAYED BY THE 2 BEST TEAMS IN THAT CURRENT YEAR.
IF THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SPIT IN THE FACE OF THE FANS AND PROGRAMS BY NOT USING A PLAYOFF SYSTEM.

I don't care what your record was last year...
what is your record this year...who have you played...

Stength of schedule has to be the biggest factor behind record.





Frank: "We Are Trying On Every Front To Increase The Role Of Government"

"Strenght of schedule has to be the biggest factor behind record"

So according to your own standard, Cincinnati has no business being in the NCG. After all, who have they played?

UC began the year unranked - playing against a Rutgers team (At Rutgers mind you on a Memorial day night) in which they were favored to lose by 10.  Rutgers was projected as the #2 team in the Big East. UC came in and embarrased them.

2nd week - they put up 70 on SWMS...a team that put up 70 the week before on their opponent.

Week three brought them to Oregon facing the Beavers. A team that was ranked #23 I believe. A team that beat USC the year before. A team that had not lost a non conference home game in its past 28 games. A team that boasted of a Heisman candidate in their RB. A game I was present for and witnessed a 28 - 18 spanking.

They then played their rival Miami and struggled a bit...but brought home the bell.

They went back on the road to South Florida a team that beat Florida State.......oh yea....put on another showcase.

Came back home to defeat another rival in Loiusville........embarrasing again.....

Then back on the road to Syracuse where its never easy in the Carrier dome....and yes again....another non-event victory.

Cincy has beat every team in front of them. It has done what was asked of them. They went on the road and played a tough Pac 10 team and won. Boise State played a Pac 10 team at home and won.

Iowa beat Penn State.

Texas beat Oklahoma

Florida beat LSU.

So there...everyone has one signature win. Playing field back to even.

GFYM

Bearcats schedule is a pretty decent schedule.

South Florida was ranked #23---Bearcats beat them in South Forida
Confrence game on the road vs a ranked team.

Still have Pitt and W.Virginia to play.

I would say that
PITT
W.VIRGINIA
SOUTH FLORIDA
OREGON STATE

Is a tougher schedule than Texas will have played all year.



Frank: "We Are Trying On Every Front To Increase The Role Of Government"

"So there...everyone has one signature win. Playing field back to even. "

Except that Boise's win was against a current top 10 team...

"Falc, just because I respond, please dont take it to mean that I give a sh!t about you. I respond because you are the type of person that needs to be told what a whack job you are or else you will go on thinking your behavior is normal and accepted. "

to bad the ducks will jump Boise State.

I have NOTHING against BSU....But I truly want to see that happen as I want the BSC to be embarrassed and I hope some coaches see this and do exactly that. So BSU...take one for the team.

doesn't matter what anybody wants or not... the jump is on.

"Well, it ain't braggin' if it's true
Yes sir, yes sir
It ain't braggin' if it's true
Muhammad Ali said that
Back when he was a young man
Back when he was Cassius Clay
Before he fought too many fights
And left his brain inside the ring"

If we are talking about BCS, I could see that.

If either the Coaches or AP jumps them, the system is definitely flawed.

"Falc, just because I respond, please dont take it to mean that I give a sh!t about you. I respond because you are the type of person that needs to be told what a whack job you are or else you will go on thinking your behavior is normal and accepted. "

I'm sorry, but of the teams you listed, I am only partially impressed with Pitt. After all, the only team ranked in your little list of impressive wins is Pitt, but the problem is, they have not played yet. In fact, we have to wait till freakin Dec 5th for them to play!!

I say Pitt can take them.

Going to #25 South Florida is not a solid win?
Even going to Rutgers to start the season off was a solid win, but the South Florida win should be listed as a big win.

Pitt and W.Virginia are going to be solid if they win.

Plus, compare that to Texas. They have played 2 teams all year...2

Frank: "We Are Trying On Every Front To Increase The Role Of Government"

I am hoping that Pitt and UC win out, making that final game easily the Big East Game of the Year!

A lot of people within the Big East tend to think that Pitt is the better team, and Pitt won a game in a somewhat similar situation two years ago (WVU only needed to beat Pitt in the final game and they would have been BCS Title Game bound but Pitt pulled off the HUGE upset). I think that a Cinci win in that spot (with Piit seeming legit) could definitely help their status, and if Pitt wins, I have a feeling that they will best represent the conference in a BCS Bowl...

Pitt IS and WILL be the better team. they won't embarrass the Big East in the BCS bowl like UC did last year......kinda like how ohio state does to the Big Ten everytime they play in a BCS bowl!

murf,

tell your mom your sister is playing with the keyboard again.

T

 

so much for the Oregon jumping Boise state concerns.

"Well, it ain't braggin' if it's true
Yes sir, yes sir
It ain't braggin' if it's true
Muhammad Ali said that
Back when he was a young man
Back when he was Cassius Clay
Before he fought too many fights
And left his brain inside the ring"

The Domers lose to Navy. Any criticism OSU fans received from Domer fans for that tight game earlier this year is now B.S.

"Falc, just because I respond, please dont take it to mean that I give a sh!t about you. I respond because you are the type of person that needs to be told what a whack job you are or else you will go on thinking your behavior is normal and accepted. "

"Going to #25 South Florida is not a solid win?"

South Florida is also overrated. Plus, UC beat them with South Florida's best player INJURED. Sorry, for me, UC's win over South Florida is just another win against a weaker divisional opponent.

Also, I'm concerned about a couple of things, Murf:

1. UC's Defense is suspect.
2. UC's Heisman Hopeful goes out on injury--and his backup steps right in to take up where Heisman Hopeful left off. That also tells me you're playing weak teams.

Plus, the Big East is completely overrated. Without VA Tech in that conference, Big East suffers from weakness from the likes of Syracuse and Rutgers. I'm not impressed with this conference AT ALL.

I'm also thinking that UC is going to get tested by Pittsburgh.

Sidenote: Yep, forget about Oregon. I still think that Oregon is going to win the Pac-10. However, they completely overlooked Stanford. Everyone knew going into the Stanford Game that Oregon's Defense was suspect as well. Dude ran all over them. That's what happens when you plan for months to take on USC like it's your National Championship--then get run through by #7 Big Red White Guy. LOL





"So he got fired? Big deal. It's happened to the best of us. So he got kicked out of his house by his 400 lb'ed wife?!?!? That's probably better for him anyways."-OldSchooler on ChrisMBHater's absence

how can you state in same sentence that Big East is weak and then say that UC is going to get tested against Pitt?

Big East is just like every other power/BCS conference. You have 1-2 top teams, then 2-3 good team - then crap.

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Pitt is very solid...W.Virginia is not an easy game.


Pitt might beat Notre Dame this week...

I would love nothing more than Brian Kelly taking over the Notre Dame job.
I don't think it is going to happen, b/c Notre Dame still owes Charlie for 6 years after this year.
I would rather stick with Charlie if Kelly is not the other option.

"how can you state in same sentence that Big East is weak and then say that UC is going to get tested against Pitt?"


Because nimrod--they're in the same MF'ing weak-azzed conference.

And how can you say that your wife is hot, then she breaks the scales in at 3-fiddy.


LMAO




"So he got fired? Big deal. It's happened to the best of us. So he got kicked out of his house by his 400 lb'ed wife?!?!? That's probably better for him anyways."-OldSchooler on ChrisMBHater's absence

Falc...At least she is female.

Pittsburgh helped out their conference and maybe UC big time this week with the win over ND.

I am convinced that this was the biggest regular season game involving a Big East team since the split where Miami, BC, and VTech left for the ACC.

Pitt ranked at #12 needed a win here, on national TV, against a talented but flawed ND squad. The win and if Pitt can beat WVU means that UC/Pitt will be a bonafide conference championship game against two nationally respected squads.

On the other hand, if Pitt loses at home to this flawed ND team it kind of proves that the Big East is a second rate conference, in which case Pitt is almost seen just as a spoiler against UC regardless of whether or not the conference is on the line.

I am a Notre Dame fan, but for the first time in my conscious life, I was rooting against them last night and for Pitt. The good is that Pitt and the Big East get this much needed shot in the arm. And hopefully this spells the end of Charlie Chees-steak. Stanford will kill them in two weeks.

As I have stated before...
I am all for Charlie getting his walking papers...but only for 2 coaches.
Brian Kelly or John Gruden.

I don't want him fired and replaced with some sh!t coach.
Charlie sucks as a coach, but he has restored the talent level at Notre Dame.
They have great weapons, just not a good coach.

Pitt is solid...but Bearcats can score on them...with Callaros or Pike.
Pitt can run the ball, but they will have to score a ton of points and that is not their style.

What I don't understand is how Willingham and Weis have failed to recruit talent on defense.

Announcers rant and rave every week how Jon Tenuta is one of the best defensive coordinators in college football. Since everyone says it, I don't necessarily deny that, but then it comes down to talent and/or mindset. Their defense has been embarrassing other than the goal line stand against Washington.

I agree Murf...I'm not a "fire the coach" kind of guy, hence the reason that I have been maybe the most loyal Marvin Lewis supporter on this message board for the past eight years. I agree that he has ND's talent level above that of where it was during the Davie and Willingham eras. I don't even mind that he is a true riverboat gambler (going against the grain in situations where most coaches won't...it has come back to bite them more so that past few years tho than it did the first two years). His team just has some really questionable performances.

As far as Pitt, that defense is one of the best in college football. ND's offense is legit...no team did to ND what Pitt did to them last night. Pitt is legit...not a terrible loss at all. But given the ease of ND's schedule anything less than 9-3 is weak, anything less than 8-4 is awful. A loss to UConn or Stanford and this turns into an "awful" season IMO.

Harbough at Standford may be another choice........Although I think they are Cardinal out after Willingham.

ND sucks up the 4.5 million and hires Gruden.

BK is going to scUM after they fire RichRod.

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