Mike Brown for Executive of the Year consideration....!

Seriously, give it some thought.
What other team made these moves to improve their team from last year to this year.

Key Moves to think about...

CEDRIC BENSON
LAVERN COLES
EVAN MATHIS
KYLE COOK
CHRIS CROCKER
TANK JOHNSON
ROY WILLIAMS
DAHANI JONES

RELEASED 3 HUGE CONTRACTS AND LOCKER ROOM PROBLEMS
TJ
WILLIE ANDERSON
LEVI JONES

Refused to Trade Chad...
Followed by a solid draft...with rookies playing a decent role this year.

I am not talking about the past 20 years, we are talking about moves that date back from the end of last season untill today!
lol..makes you laugh and think at the same time.

Seriously, he did a great job this year.

Frank: "We Are Trying On Every Front To Increase The Role Of Government"

I'm not going to disagree with much of this post. I will give Mike credit - he did a decent job for the second time in 20 years.

"Falc, just because I respond, please dont take it to mean that I give a sh!t about you. I respond because you are the type of person that needs to be told what a whack job you are or else you will go on thinking your behavior is normal and accepted. "

He's made some nice moves but also some bad non moves, he allowed Brad St Louis and Daniel Coats to cost games


that in itself keeps him from being GM of the year

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In Memory of Darren

This is the same fuchin bozo that brought you Asucki Smith for the entire N.O.draft
This is the same fuchin bozo that has brought 18 out 0f 19 years of pathetic non winning seasons to Cincinnati
This is the same fuchin bozo that rained down $8.00 glasses of water at the stadium
This is the same fuchin bozo with the 32% career winning percentage since he assumed GM duties when his Father died
This is the same fuchin bozo that refuses to sign draft picks on time and renders players useless for their first years(and sometimes careers) due to holdouts
This is the same fuchin bozo that year in and year out refused to sign "quality" free agents to help the team succeed.
This is the same fuchin bozo that has held the city in football hostage for 19 years and paid himself 2 million a year for GM duties
This is the same fuchin bozo that wouldnt supply decent towels or trainig facilities comparable to any NFL team
This is the same fuchin bozo that brought in a high school lackey to run the (arguably)most important position in the front office(Director of player personnel

This is the same fuchin bozo that would have been run out of any other city in the NFL for his GM record and still should be run out of this city.GM of the year?LOL If this team makes it to the playoffs it will be despite mike clown and not because of him.If the bungs do make the playoofs and win the superbowl,I will gladly drive to Cincinnati just so I can spit in his face.F U clown brown. ~lumina~

Guess you know how I feel now,lol

Murf, you just gave me a great idea! This could be the next surefire hit on HBO:

Bring back Jason Shirley to the active roster. Have him room with "Lavern Coles" and call in the Hard Knocks crew for filming. Follow them around for the rest of the season and edit the footage down to five or six rapid-paced episodes.

Now imagine the excitement when viewers tune in to see... the 21st Century version of... Happy Days.

Huh? Huh?

The only thing that man needs credit for is for 20 years of misery.

Also, Credit for establishing the worst NFL franchise of the 90s. A joke and laughing stock for almost 20 years.

GREAT JOB BROWN!!!!

As for decisions this year as the saying goes:

EVERY BLIND PIG FINDS AN ACORN EVERY 20 YEARS.

The glaring example is Kyle Cook at Center. This guy is playing lights-out, and couldn't hit the field last year. Bluto sukkkkked to no end and poof, we now have a center. Mikey has stumbled into a gold mine with a few of his assistants and Carson Palmer (probably one of the top 3 QB's in the league). 2005 is at the door-step.

I'd like to shoot that fukker right in the face

Geez doods...there are 9 games yet to be played! You guys are taking like we're already in the Super Bowl. Yes 5-2 beats the piss out of 0-7, but ya oughta wait until we see how this turns out before even acknowledging that the "blind pig" has actually found a 20 year acorn. If the Bears finish 3-13, although last Sunday was a lot of fun, just where do you think that one win is going to take us too? Granted, at least there is hope this year. When the Bungs win the Suprr Bowl, that is when I might (emphasize MIGHT) re-assess Mikey boy...

As it is said, if you give a thousand monkeys a thousand typewriters, sooner of later one will come up with "Hamlet"

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..."but I thought up front we did a nice job of staying on our feet." Yeah Marv, staying on one's feet is important.

"Oh, alright, Murf! If you want to be my personal valet that badly, I guess you can sleep in the guest room! Geesh, some people are so darn persistent! But remember, I like my coffee served promptly at 5:30 sharp every morning with a little cream, no sugar. Always make sure to grab yesterday's paper from the neighbor's trash bin. Iron it out flat and set it on the breakfast table. Now here's my daily schedule...

"... and here's the keys to the Lumina. Drive me over to Aldi's so I can grab a bouquet of second-day flowers for Honey Bun. Go easy on that accelerator! Oh yes, about the pay. I've decided to up the amount to $50 a week. Pay me in cash on Wednesdays. No need to let the tax man know about this, okay?"

I guess some of you missed the concept of leaving out the past 20 years!
I said nothing about the best GM in history....

FROM LAST SEASON TO THIS SEASON.

I took this idea off of another post, got me laughing and thinking...as much as you hate him, you simply can't deny the real thought of him being considered.



Frank: "We Are Trying On Every Front To Increase The Role Of Government"

"CEDRIC BENSON
LAVERN COLES
EVAN MATHIS
KYLE COOK
CHRIS CROCKER
TANK JOHNSON
ROY WILLIAMS
DAHANI JONES
RELEASED 3 HUGE CONTRACTS AND LOCKER ROOM PROBLEMS
TJ
WILLIE ANDERSON
"LEVI JONES
Refused to Trade Chad...
Followed by a solid draft...with rookies playing a decent role this year."

Cedric Benson was another Mike Brown gamble on a cheap, once-highly-coveted player with attitude problems. Thankfully for him, the gamble paid off FOR ONCE. He's screwed the team over time and time again with bonehead moves that didn't pan out.
Coles is a complete waste from my perspective. TJ has attitude problems, but he would be way more valuable to the team than Coles has been so far.
Mathis (a Panthers and Dolphins castoff) is a decent stop-gap player; no reason to assume anything more than that.
Kyle Cook (a Vikings castoff) has done a pretty good job thus far. Congratulations Mike Brown, you have an NFL-caliber center. golf clap
Crocker has made some big plays, but the jury is still out on whether or not he can cover in the NFL. I'm not convinced at all.
Tank, Williams and Dhani Jones: all solid, veteran role-players with significant liabilities to be concerned about. However, I'll give Mike Brown credit for collecting these cast-offs. No long-term answers here though.
For you to call Willie Anderson a "locker room problem" after all the crap he put up with as a Bengal is insulting. I was so glad to see Willie make it to the playoffs last year while Mikey sat home and licked his wounds. Congrats, Willie.
Levi Jones: Mike could have traded Levi way before he finally had to release him. Bad move for waiting to get rid of a player until the player has no value elsewhere.
Why didn't you bash Mikey for not getting rid of Chad, another "locker room problem" and "huge contract". So far, Chad is not acting up because the team is winning. Its still embarrassing to see him jabbering after every catch. Our #1 receiver has histrionic personality disorder (bless his heart). What happens when the Bengals go on a 3-game losing streak? Get ready for lots of whining and crying from Chad.
The draft was okay. The punter has been the best rookie. Michael Johnson looks good and Scott is a contributor. Maualuga has a lot to learn despite being an explosive player. The rest are MIA. Andre who?

Nice spin but no.

EXEC of the year would have to be whoever is in charge in Denver.

Making the change at head coach, retooling that entire locker room and defense, managing to keep Brandon Marshall quiet (he was in worse spirits than Ochocinco), and maybe even getting a good return in the Cutler trade (most notably the draft picks but McDaniels is working with that QB as well).

Tannenbaum of the NY Jets would maybe be next if the Jets win 10 or more games (drafting Sanchez, hiring Rex Ryan). IF the 49ers win that division they would be next. Kevin Colbert of the Steelers and Bill Belichik of the Patriots are always in the running as well. Then the Bengals depending on how they finish (like I have said elsewhere I am still not convinced that they will win 10 games, but if they do, then sure, MB deserves consideration for executive of the year.)

"Mike Brown for Executive of the Year consideration....!

Seriously, give it some thought."



Sorry murf I tried my hardest to "give it some thought" but I just couldn't do it...

Nice spin but no.

EXEC of the year would have to be whoever is in charge in Denver.

Making the change at head coach, retooling that entire locker room and defense, managing to keep Brandon Marshall quiet (he was in worse spirits than Ochocinco), and maybe even getting a good return in the Cutler trade (most notably the draft picks but McDaniels is working with that QB as well).
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I could see that if Denver continues to win out...I still see them as the Chiefs a few years back or Washington with Ferrot.
Both went 8-0 and finsihed like 8-8.


Tannenbaum of the NY Jets would maybe be next if the Jets win 10 or more games (drafting Sanchez, hiring Rex Ryan).
Not bad moves at all, but team was set up already...I mean most of the big players, were there.

IF the 49ers win that division they would be next.
Not so sure the 49ers have done much this past offseason..and just got their draft pick in there.

Kevin Colbert of the Steelers and Bill Belichik of the Patriots are always in the running as well.
Both teams have been established...yes, they are doing a great job of establishing the systems, and i will not try and dispute anything they have done, but how the team transpired from last year to this year...I would go with the Bengals

Then the Bengals depending on how they finish (like I have said elsewhere I am still not convinced that they will win 10 games, but if they do, then sure, MB deserves consideration for executive of the year.)

Good points...

BA--You are simply looking for the negative and you bore me.
To say that Mike got lucky with Cedric is about the second most idiotic comment you have ever made.
Or you don't understand football.



Frank: "We Are Trying On Every Front To Increase The Role Of Government"

Very possible, but the same can be said for the Bengals...that's why they play 16 games and not 8.

I do remember that Redskins team BTW...I'm thinking it was 1995ish. They did start out 6-2 I or 7-1 and finished 8-8 I believe (that was Norv's second or third year there). I can't recall the Chiefs team that you're talking about. But I get the point.

As for the 49ers, I agree with you. Singletary was a 2008 midseason hire but it was assumed that he would get the job for this season and I can't think of too many personnel moves that they made this year other than keeping Alex Smith and not giving up on him completely. But much like the Bengals with them it is mostly a change in attitude more so than a chance in personnel. Keep in mind that some of your 'additions' happened last season (signing Benson, adding Zimmer to the staff, not firing Marvin or trading Chad back then).

When you run a team down to nothing there is no place to get but better.

"Well, it ain't braggin' if it's true
Yes sir, yes sir
It ain't braggin' if it's true
Muhammad Ali said that
Back when he was a young man
Back when he was Cassius Clay
Before he fought too many fights
And left his brain inside the ring"

You think other teams didn't know Cedric Benson was drafted 4th overall? Are you so dim to think that the Bengals massive scouting department found a hidden gem here? You still haven't figured it out that there is NOTHING Mike Brown and his staff knows that every other team in the league didn't know six months before. With Benson, Mike simply put on his "redeemer" hat and grabbed another undervalued reject with a track record of attitude problems. Like I said, this time it has worked out (so far). Please don't make me compile a list of all Mike Brown's worthless free agent acquisitions over the years.
As far as looking at the negative, I have every reason in the world to be cynical about the Bengals. The organization has a dismal history when it comes to evaluating and developing talent. Even you can't deny that after 19 crappy seasons. Why should I assume that anything on the field has changed when everything in the front office has stayed the same?

Kids, don't drink the Mike Brown Kool-Aid.

You gotta be schittin me......

I can understand Murf going down this path......but if anyone else on here does needs to be shot! Twice!!

T

Murf, like you have always said, everyone has the same film on these guys. The scouting department and GM's are overrated.

Now of course you want to pat the guy on the back for seeing the obvious that changes needed to be made. We are not talking about riverboat gambler type moves. You fail to see this.

I don't know what business you are in Murf. In my business, I am the owner and I leave it to the experts to run it. If I were in charge of day to day operations it would probably fail. That said, if you are laying bricks maybe it ain't a bad idea to know how to do the job. Sadly, that is how Mike Brown sees football business.

Hey, while we're at it let's give Charlie Manson Citizen of the Year Award.

I can't sleep, so I will give this the ol college try here....

Cedric Benson was out of football...nobody, including several teams that needed franchise backs, picked him up or even called...
Yes, mike did put the redeemer hat on and gave him a 1 year deal, to see what was there.
The guy ran for over 700 yards with a bad line and a pathetic qb and no real effort from the wideouts.
What you fail to understand is that he was a FREE AGENT after the season and his attitude and his skills were back in line where they should have been, yet he signs with the Benglas...a BIG TIME FREE AGENT!

Now he is leading the NFL in rushing...

That d@amn Mike Brown...

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I am not failing to see anything...look, for years and years, you guys have screamed for the Bengals to do something in Freeagency, have better drafts ect. ect.
Well, for the first time in 20 years, the man made all of the correct moves.
He got BIG NAME free agents and the Cedric Benson deal was huge in my opinion.
His skills and being in the system for a year, only made him better...wonder where you heard that before?...lol
Some of the names being tossed around before Cedric agreed to the deal were a joke, and we got the best free agent at tailback on the market.
The addition by subtractions were pretty d@mn good too..
Whoever was for Willie, great, be happy, but also understand that he was not taking care of himself at all, was being paid like a PRO, but was behaving like an amature, same with LEVI and TJ was a self appointed star with average slot reciever skills and a locker room problem.


Barney Frank: "We Are Trying On Every Front To Increase The Role Of Government"

Hey, while we're at it let's give Charlie Manson Citizen of the Year Award.



We should, guy hasn't been arrested in decades and even once gave up his bologni sammich to one of his cell mates

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In Memory of Darren

murf...if any of those pick ups failed...Benson, Williams, Tank.....you would be leading the pack saying MFB is an idiot for picking these bums up.

You are correct, but the truth is, the free agent class of 2009, has put the Bengals in the running after week 7...
So you have to give credit here...we all agree the man can screw up a wet dream about Haley Berry, but he did get it right this year and that is all that I am saying...from the end of the 2008 season, to 10/30/09, he has done a very solid job.



Frank: "We Are Trying On Every Front To Increase The Role Of Government"

"but he did get it right this year and that is all that I am saying."



He did? did we win the Lombardi trophy already?



Wooooot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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In Memory of Darren

Murf  - I am sorry. This man could win the next 5 superbowls and I will never give him credit. He is a complete and worthless baffoon. He has screwed the team, his father, the city, his fellow owners, the fans, and all of us way to long for me to ever give him an ounce of credit or respect.

He will never ever get that from me.

T

NO F*CKING WAY. I CAN'T BELIEVE THE MODS OF MIKEYSUCKS.COM LET THIS SH*T THROUGH. THIS SH*T SHOULD HAVE BEEN CENSORED. TAKE IT AWAY. MY EYES. OHHHHHHH GOOD GOD, MY EYES!!!!! PENCILS THROUGH THE EYES REALLY HAPPENS!!!!!!!!!!


BS, Murf. That guy could buy me 10 call girls that look like Jenna Jameson---and I'm still wanting to take that guy's head back to my Predator Closet.

He could win 10 Super Bowls in a row and I'll never forget the last 20 years this MF'er has given me. I'll never forget the Klingler, Akillme, or even the Palmer Years so far. I'll never forget the day that I pretty much mailed it in (somewhere back in the early to mid-90s) as a fan. Now, I pretty much watch/listen, laugh, and point.

It's all because of Mike Brown that I don't take the Bungles too seriously. And F*ck him for it. It didn't have to be like that--but it does because he's too cheap to be real owner.

Come'on Murf. Why are you really here?





"So he got fired? Big deal. It's happened to the best of us. So he got kicked out of his house by his 400 lb'ed wife?!?!? That's probably better for him anyways."-OldSchooler on ChrisMBHater's absence

Murf must have been sick and tired of having people lovin' on him around here. So he went deep into the hole with, ahem, "Brown nosing" to get us back to the status quo. But the ridicule has been slow to build. Amazing what a 5-2 start can do to our moods.

In addition to a great run of good luck, I can think of at least two other factors that have lead to Mike Brown's current success:

1. The other owners are temporarily spending money more cautiously.

There's the bad economy, of course, which has caused everyone to scale back. And there's the impending expiration of the collective bargaining agreement with an uncapped year quickly approaching (2010). Owners are less likely to throw money around haphazardly until there are less uncertainties. And so Brown is less likely to be out-bid for various player's services. Hence we have Cedric Benson (re-signed in the off season), Laveranues Coles, Tank Johnson, Roy Williams, Chris Crocker, etc. Supposedly "nobody else wanted these guys", but I think tighter money conditions might have had something to do with that.

2. We're at the end of a short period of league stasis.

Brown hates change with a passion that knows no bounds. Unfortunately for Bengals fans, the league is always evolving and leaving us behind. But there are brief periods when the changes plateau, and the Bengals can narrow the gap. PBS is a modern venue, for example. The scouting actually improved last year with a quality digital video system in place. Did you hear that they bought a "zero gravity treadmill"? It supposedly helped Carson Palmer rehabilitate his sprained ankle. Little things can add up.

I think Brown has been his old plodding self lately, but his efforts are now working because of unusual conditions. I'm happy to give him credit, but I know this isn't going to last very long. The league is on the brink of some hefty change. How do you think our favorite guy will handle it all?

The league is on the brink of some hefty change. How do you think our favorite guy will handle it all?


it might take him 18-20 years to catch up but when he does it will all be worth it

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In Memory of Darren

If he manages to win the SB, I'll say ok.  Right now, we're 5-2, and there's a lot of football left to be played.

Perhaps after 18 years of failure, Mike has figured out how to win, or, more and likely, Mike has stumbled into a string of good luck.   If it's the latter, this year will merely be a diamond in the rough.  I have big concerns regarding this upcoming uncapped year.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

Its just wrong that a thread with this title should exist on mikebrownsucks.com.
All you can do is scratch your head and think: "What the heck is a Mike Brown-lover like murf doing HERE of all places?"

Kids, don't drink the Mike Brown Kool-Aid.

I've been working so many double and extended shifts lately that it's been hard to keep up with the Murf follies here. I'm glad to see that not all drunks are on Warren County roads (although it often seems that way).

Of those five Bungle wins, how many were more the result of other teams losing than the Bungs winning? And how many lucky breaks did the Bungs get?

This is a much improved Mike-hole team. But it's a Mikey team that could just as easily be 1-6.

Murf could have given Mikey credit for one decision that I would have agreed with: Keeping the coaching staff intact.

Sorry guys, but Marvin has proven once again that he can win with NFL sloppy seconds. He did it in 2005 and he's doing it again this year.

They'll most likely be exposed for mediocrity before the season ends, just like in 2005. And one again, we'll read and hear all sorts of abstract reasons why they were humiliated down the stretch, just like in 2005, and just like the last 20 years.

Marvin and Brat are doing it with mirrors and they've been brilliant tacticians. But the mirrors will eventually break.

Ability and desire, the magic combination.

I honestly don't doubt Mikey's desire to win -- think about it --

He grew up admiring guys like PB, GSH, Mara, Etc... You don't think he has this fantasy of having the ring? Of being finally recognized by his peers as something other than an aloof small market pain in the rectum? Of getting his due respect?

Of course he does.

He just hasn't got a clue how to do it, so he tries everything you and I would try in Madden Franchise mode. You ever notice how fast the seasons go by in that game? Kinda like being a Bengal fan eh?

Now that he occasionally listens to marvin and co, he's getting luckier. However, the NFL makes it pretty hard to be uncompetitive. Even you and I with nothing more than a draft magazine could go make draft picks for a team and come out with some winners. The math makes it fairly easy. And we probably wouldn't have Jerome Freakin Simpson, but perhaps DeSean Jackson as has been suggested here.

"For me it is far better to grasp the universe at it really is rather than persist in delusion, no matter how satisfying or reassuring."
-Carl Sagan

I also love how being a 'winner' is subjective.

The Steelers and Giants are both a 'disappointing' 5-2 while the Bengals are an 'excellent' 5-2.

Fortunately, its a 16 game season....I have a feeling that things will work themselves out.