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July 31 2012 at 3:13 PM
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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/rationing-begins-states-limiting-drug-prescriptions-medicaid-patients


Shocking to find this out. (roll the eyes)
You mean the evil bast@rds that "LIED" about this being a part of the future were not lying?

One day you liberal types will wake up and figure this sh!t out, until then, just look at things in a normal perspective.
When you add Government, you are adding FAILURE/CORRUPTION/SLEAZINESS/EMBARRASSING BEHAVIOR/DISHONESTY/THEFT and an over all lack of giving two sh!ts for the hard working middle class poor!




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July 31 2012, 4:05 PM 

Rationing? Wait till your man Mitch gets in with his program of austerity - this is kindergarten stuff compared to what will happen if your man gets in. Say good by to the middle class.

 
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July 31 2012, 4:25 PM 

What program of austerity do you speak of? If you mean reigning in Medicaid and Welfare spending then yeah, guess that might happen. You could move to Canada which has WAY stricter rules for Welfare and pays WAY LESS. Or, you could go to Greece which pays similar to us...for now.

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July 31 2012, 4:38 PM 

"... Wait till your man Mitch gets in..."

Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

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July 31 2012, 4:55 PM 

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July 31 2012, 5:24 PM 

He will be looking at all areas of spending except defense. He will not cut there - he might even expand it some but all entitlements will be on the table. That is what he wants to do but getting it through congress will be a different matter. What's sad about this is the so called super committee tried to do that last year but did a very poor job. How this will work out with Mr. Mitch - might be interesting.

 
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Obamer's Olympic Commercials

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August 1 2012, 1:08 AM 

"I want to help the Middle Class"

'Cuse me?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?

You've done nothing but killin' them (me). Thanks for nothing f*ckwad.

Now you're going to TAX me for getting out of taking ObamerCare. Thanks for the screwjob.

You f*ck.

That commercial is nothing but one big lie after another. I wonder if the American People are smart enough to punch their way out of this wet paper bag.

Probably not. If Californians are dumb enough to elect MoonBeam back in, then I have no confidence whatsoever.





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August 1 2012, 8:14 AM 

I think you're dreaming if you think Romney will help the middle class - he will take care of the coorporate elite and the rich and leave very little for everyone else esp. when he gets started with his austerity programs. If you think Romney will improve demand which is the main cause of high unemployment than see me about some land I have for sale.

 
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August 1 2012, 10:06 AM 

The only way to help the middle class is to bring back and create jobs in the US. That won't happen while the US has the highest corporate tax rate in the developed world. Building anything in the US is expensive enough with all of the regulations and workman's comp rules (which are abused with regularity) but add in the corporate tax rate and most large companies just won't pay the additional cost. If they can make significantly more profit by off shoring a large chunk of their manufacturing, they will. Just ask Apple and Nike.

BTW, is Romney calling for tax cuts for the rich or just keeping the current rates the same instead of allowing them to go back up once the Bush tax cuts finally expire? There is a difference.

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August 1 2012, 10:15 AM 

With half the population already paying zero income tax, people still think the middle class can be resurrected through taxation policy.

Obama, as well as a lot of Dems hate the concept of private business. Taxes and regulations is what they use to discourage it while blaming Capitalism for any failure.

But who cares about that, lets talk about gay marriage.

 
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August 1 2012, 11:06 AM 

Murf,

If you were to add up the total fortune of America's richest 400 people, that amount $1.27 trillion would be more than the holdings of the bottom 50 percent of Americans, less than $1.22 trillion.

How you can feel pity or side with the billionaires is beyond me.




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August 1 2012, 1:09 PM 

"I think you're dreaming if you think Romney will help the middle class - he will take care of the coorporate elite and the rich and leave very little for everyone else esp. when he gets started with his austerity programs. If you think Romney will improve demand which is the main cause of high unemployment than see me about some land I have for sale."


A couple of things here:

1. At least RAMNEY supports people who have actually done something for a living. Not MOOOOOOOOOOCHED off others. And those billionaires that you are slamming here in your post? THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE OPENING THE JOB MARKET/COULD SAVE THE ECONOMY if you stop taxing them to death. Who do you think is going to open a business? The guy with all the money under his matress--or the guy with his hand out asking you for a f*cking dollar??!!!??!?!??!?!?!? Get real. Do you wanna job, or don't you? You like to eat, right? So do I.

2. Your f*cking side of the party isn't exactly poor, pal. Stop being so GD hypocritical, MF'er. Obama's like you or me? Again--GET REAL. Obamer's worth is said to be around $50 mil. Warren Buffett is worth how much? And George Soros--Obamer's handler--is said to be worth how much?


One more thing:

3. At least Ramney knows what f*cking CAPITALISM means. Don't expect me to pick up the hammer and sickle anytime soon MF'ers. It isn't going to happen.


Bronco--I'm siding with whomever has the money. Or I guess you don't like to eat either.


I leave you with a quote from you two's brethern:

"The rich will do anything for the poor but get off their backs."
Karl Marx

Only a communist would feel this way. Ask yourselves this--would you rather your nation start manufacturing materials again--or would you rather produce a bunch of handouts instead?




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August 1 2012, 1:34 PM 

You're missing the point. I was talking about demand being the main reason for companies not hiring. There are regulations but no one has addressed which ones and who put them in place. Some of the factors dampening demand are high oil and high health care costs which impact consumer spending here and abroad. Unless those issues are addressed your hero Ramney (I liked your spelling) or 100 like him won't do squat to improve global demand. We are close to being in a global synchronized recession now and Ramney's austerity program won't resolve it unless of course you have some kind of solution.

 
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August 1 2012, 4:15 PM 

This has nothing to do with Mitt.
this has nothing to do with the people in currently in Congress.
This has nothing to do with Bush.

This is EXACTLY what some of us feared when the talk about government and health care were first introduced and most liberals laughed and called us crazy for looking at the facts.
This is just the start of the destruction of the greatest country ever known to mankind.

Grandma is old and close to the end and her meds are a fortune, so guess what.....
See ya grandma!

You simply can't allow government to have control of your life.
That is a failed concept.

Bronco..
I am not defending anyone.
I am 100% against making this a dependent country.
Socialism is a cancer that can never be cured.



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August 1 2012, 4:30 PM 

Again, consider the source.

When the website's slogan is "the right news, right now," and has an advertisement that says "demand the liberal media tell the truth" methinks that said website is a bit slanted. And considering that a quick google search only leads me to other far right sites I'm not certain what to think.

From doing a bit more research it looks like this has been going on long before the Health Care Bill was signed. I'm not so sure that THIS is "the beginning of the end of the greatest country in the world." Typical hyperbole. Either it was the day that Obama was elected or the day that Bush was elected, etc. But TODAY being the "beginning of the end" because some right wing nut writes a slanted column is the typical hyperbole that I can't stand.

 
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August 1 2012, 4:49 PM 

Obama elected is not what caused the downfall. The seed were planted decades ago, Obama is just reaping what we sow.

 
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August 1 2012, 5:33 PM 

It has been going on in Nevada since at least 2004 (when i moved here). Well before Barry took office.

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August 1 2012, 6:12 PM 

Rationing has been going on since well before this. You think the US government pays for every experimental surgery or medicine that may save a Medicare patient's life? Yeah right buddy, get a grip. You get what the government decides is worth covering. Even if a rich friend had success with some new therapy and you beg and scream for it, doesn't mean you get it. Insurance plans aren't all that different. This is reality here, you are not entitled to whatever you want whenever you want it.

And guess what, those long lines the Republicans warned us about? They've already been happening for awhile too. Go try to get an appointment with a new primary physician and let me know how long until they see you. Unless you have some high-end insurance plan, you will most likely be dead or cured by the time they would see you. Believe me, I've been through it.

Purely phony, fear-mongering propaganda. Perfect for those that desperately want to believe it.

Also, if grandma wants to spend her own money on medicine then I doubt Pfizer or whoever will turn her down. For those that want to spend more for cadillac insurance plans, I'm sure someone will be happy to take their money at a nice profit. First you complain that the government is offering any additional health care, and now you whine and moan because there are limits to what they are offering.

If Obama showed up at your house to personally service you, you would probably first complain that he was a queer and then also complain that he didn't tickle your balls while he sucked you off.




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August 2 2012, 3:16 AM 

You liberal types are a chuckle a minute.

During the health care tax debates, people were called all types of names when they suggested rationing and death panels.
Well, we have rationing and we have a panel of Doctors appointed by the Savior..
Not right wing spin nonsense, but basic facts that can't be twisted.
I am not calling the panel of Doctors the death panel, but they were appointed by a man that got his advice from a person that has no problem killing off grandma.
I don't know what the purpose of the panel is, but I would love to hear your spin on what their mission is.

I am not denying that these rationing practices have taken place before the savior took office, I am simply pointing out that they are in fact rationing medications, and if you are dumb enough to believe that the insurance companies backed by the Federal government will not amp up these type of practices than your an absolute idiot.
You are talking about the same government that took old people in Cincinnati and murdered them by testing radiation and many other so called special projects.

You guys kick and scream about how evil the insurance companies are but applaud a tax placed on the working poor to give the insurance companies more power to abuse the very same people that you claim to be fighting for.
How on earth you can't see this as a problem is amazing to me.

I started this thread to point out yet another fact that was called a LIE.
One day you liberal types will wake up, unfortunately it might be too late.

To those who believe this country is in good hands or not heading for disaster....
Over half of this country is sucking the t!t dry.
When half of your population is not putting anything in the bank account and almost half of this country is taking money out of the bank account, how long do you think this bank account can function properly?
Then add the obscene amount of fuched up programs that drain the account and you have a huge problem.
The answer is not to attack the only people feeding the account.

Obama...
He is a clown.
When I hear him or see him on tv, I don't see the leader of the free world, I see a drunken used car dealer that would screw his own grandmother over to make a sale.



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August 2 2012, 4:45 AM 

"Obama...
He is a clown. "


Thats not what I call him.

 
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August 2 2012, 2:36 PM 

"Obama...
He is a clown"

If your man Mitch gets in after all is said and done you will be calling him a lot worse names than "clown." Mitch is not in the corner of the middle class and you will find this out painfully.

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/romney-economic-plan-cut-taxes-rich-raise-them-160632248.html

 
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August 2 2012, 3:13 PM 

Romney Mittens has a 10 year tax problem to worry about now.

Reid played him like a fiddle. Now, if he doesnt release them, the media will crucify him until election day.
If he releases them, the independents wont like what they hear.

And Murf, if it was going on before Obamacare takes over, how is it any different? LOL.


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The media will crucify him to election day bronco? How is THAT any different?

BTW since we're all so concerned about transparency and all, how 'bout the great water walker release his college transcripts? Holy Marxism Batman! What would the Independents think?


 
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August 2 2012, 10:22 PM 

Bottom line...

The man is useless.
Mitt is not my man, he is the choice from the elite.
We have Mitt or some failure.
Great choices!!!!!

We are fuched as a country!!!

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August 3 2012, 10:41 AM 

JB,

I am being 100% serious here. They dont give a **** about his transcripts.
None of us gave a **** about Bush's trancripts. He was a C student. Whatever. As a former C/B student in college, I dont think it matters. In fact, I will never think it matters. Who cares what some dilbert got in chemistry in class in undergrad.

When you are 20 years old, you should be focusing on getting laid and drinking beer.
In my experience, and I dont know about yours JB, undergrad means nothing. It is a stepping stone to grad school, which is where you make your money.

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"None of us gave a **** about Bush's trancripts. I dont think it matters. In fact, I will never think it matters. Who cares what some dilbert got in chemistry in class in undergrad. "

The words of a C/B student. happy.gif

 
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August 4 2012, 5:07 AM 

I agree with Bronco on this one...happy.gif

Grades are pointless when you think about it.
As long as you pass and get what you worked for and considering that college is nothing but a money scam, who cares what your grades were in 99.9% of the classes you are forced for no reason other the school collecting more money.

High school is even more ridiculous.
I have friends that would go ape sh1t if their child is not on the honors list.


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August 4 2012, 8:40 AM 

"In my experience, and I dont know about yours JB, undergrad means nothing. It is a stepping stone to grad school, which is where you make your money"

That depends. In engineering a grad degree is not as important and a PE license may be more important than a masters degree. I was in grad school for awhile but I realized that my courses had nothing to do with the field I wanted to go in so I quit.

 
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August 4 2012, 10:25 AM 

Bottom line on Harry Reid is that he's a dishonorable person. You don't just repeat slanderous heresay like that in one breath and in the very next breath say, "of course I don't know this to be a fact." It's preposterous. How would you like it if I went on national television and stated a highly reliable source told me Bronco is a Pedofile? Of course I don't know this for sure but I'm going to say it anyway. It's disgusting and not only should you be ashamed that this bottom feeder is your Senator, you should be ashamed of yourself for lauding his behavior.

I don't really care what Obama's gpa is either but that's not what I was referring to. I'm referring to all the sealed records from virtually every institution he ever got free tuition to. Records such as his theses and opinion papers wherein he most probably had absolutely nothing but hatred for the values of the country he would someday lead.

You're not going to like what this man transforms your nation into.


 
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August 4 2012, 11:23 AM 

Hatred for the values of this country?

This is my problem with people on the right. They think their ideas are the ONLY patriotic ideas or the onlyu RIGHT ideas or that any other ideas are UNAMERICAN.

Who are you to say what is American and what is not. The arrogance is disturbing, especially from someone I consider to be a reasonable guy.

The country was founded on the ideals of white rich agrarian based men. They werent right about EVERYTHING. You remember they had slaves and beat women, right?

 
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They had slaves and beat women?LMFAO

Every white man?

If having slaves and beating women are so evil, then why on earth are you liberal types so hell bent on protecting the cult known as Islam?
LOL..

You guys are a chuckle a minute.

This country became great because the leaders were men that refused to become anything like the rest of the weak minded nations across the pond and you liberal types love that socialist chicken sh!t, where you need the government to wipe your azz.



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August 5 2012, 2:39 PM 

No dilbert.

The point is that they (founding fathers) were not infallible. they had faults. People talk about them like they are borderline deities.

Are you saying the founding fathers didnt have slaves?

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August 5 2012, 5:55 PM 

No, of course some of the men that gave the world a great blue print to run a country had slaves.
That does not change the fact they were not only brave but brilliant men.
They were not perfect, the system was never perfect and it will never be perfect.

Chasing perfection is a waste of time and money.
What the liberals are trying to do is change this country into a socialist system.


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August 5 2012, 7:10 PM 

"People talk about them like they are borderline deities. "

and people don't treat Obama like one?

 
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August 7 2012, 6:48 AM 

I want to offer an apology to bronco for saying he should be ashamed of himself for supporting Harry Reid's baseless allegation. Upon reflection I think it was too strong a response from me and I feel bad because of it.

Regarding my response about the president hating the values that built this country and made it great, there will be no apology coming. I believe the evidence supporting my assertion is overwhelming and I'll be glad to debate it with the anonymous person who challenged me on it, or even some of his other claims that I didn't even vaguely address.

I'm sorry bronco.


 
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August 7 2012, 9:42 AM 

No apology necesssary. As a moderate, I thought it was a very aggressive move on Reid's part and one that will likely piss off voters. However, this is Reid's last hurrah, so he doesnt have much to worry about on that front.

As a voter, I do want to know Romney's tax records for the last 10 years.
Other candidates have released them. I think they provide a rational reference point regarding his current views on taxation.

By the same token, I dont care about Obama's grades. They provide no rational reference point for his policies. Again, I dont really care how he did on a chemistry final in the 80's.


 
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August 7 2012, 9:53 AM 

His grades are immaterial. His papers and opinions are of paramount importance.


 
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August 7 2012, 10:30 AM 

Which papers?

For which class?

 
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August 7 2012, 10:52 AM 

Destroying America from Within 101

 
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August 7 2012, 12:44 PM 

I don't think it is anyone's business what Romney's tax records are.
I don't care what Mickey made either.

Everything you are about to hear over the next few months is going to be extreme over hype/false rhetoric/ and nothing even close to the truth from both sides.

It is sad that we have men running to be the leader of the free world and combined they don't have the leadership skills to lead a 3rd grade class room.
Nobody has the answers to fix the problems they created.


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August 7 2012, 3:15 PM 

Welcome to politics 101. Local television for the next 3 months won't be worth watching unless you like political ads which are so much sh@t. The dirty politicians will contaminate the airwaves till Nov.

 
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