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Re: Play a Funeral March For Us, Paul Alexander

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November 9 2017, 8:59 PM 

Apparently Fisher has an irregular heartbeat, and the upcoming surgery could completely cure him. News came out this morning, which I had missed. Makes you wonder if this condition was partially responsible for his poor play.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/09/jake-fisher-to-have-procedure-to-correct-irregular-heartbeat/

Another thought occurred to me today. The last Bengal to develop into a quality O-lineman was Kevin Zeitler, and he was a plug-n-play guard, per Mike Mayock. Whatever happened to the pipeline the produced the following players?

- Clint Boling, G (2011 4th rounder)

- Andre Smith, T (2009 1st rounder)

- Anthony Collins, T (2008 4th rounder)

- Kyle Cook, C (2007 street free agent)

- Andrew Whitworth, G-T (2006 2nd rounder)

- Stacey Andrews, T (2004 4th rounder)

- Eric Steinbach, G (2003 2nd rounder)

- Levi Jones, T (2002 1st rounder)

All were either solid starters or quality backups. It goes even further back but I limited the time frame to the current century.

Let us not forget about center Trevor Robinson who had a strong rookie year filling in for Kyle Cook in 2012. He was another street free agent. Injuries quickly ruined his career, but he helped save the Bungs that first season after Cook unexpectedly went down.

Zeitler also came along in 2012, drafted in the first round. After that we're talking about a parade of stiffs. Five years without any infusion of quality talent, and this is the team that let their two best offensive linemen go this past offseason.

The common denominator throughout this span is Coach Paul Alexander, and he has clearly lost his touch.


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Re: Play a Funeral March For Us, Paul Alexander

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November 10 2017, 12:39 PM 

Amen Psycho. He's been getting by on his reputation s far. And his reputation is continually bolstered by Geoff Hobson. DRAIN THE SWAMP.
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Re: Play a Funeral March For Us, Paul Alexander

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November 11 2017, 11:31 AM 

A couple of other respectable linemen I forgot to add:

- Evan Mathis, G (2009 free agent)

- Bobbie Williams, G (2004 free agent)

We'd gladly take a guard now who's as good as either one used to be, back when they were first signed by the Bengals.

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Re: Play a Funeral March For Us, Paul Alexander

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November 12 2017, 2:06 PM 

The 24-20 loss to the Titans puts them at 3-6 and surely out of the hunt for good. They could have easily won that gamne with a halfway decent pass protection. Their rushing game improved, but there was no way to go but up, and they seemed to be using it as a change of pace with all of 14 carries during the game, including one by a Dalton scramble and two by WR Alex Erickson.

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Re: Play a Funeral March For Us, Paul Alexander

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November 13 2017, 5:29 PM 

Paul Alexander plays his tribute to the Bengals 2017 football season. In case you forgot, that would be Frédéric Chopin's Piano Sonata No 2 in B flat minor, Funeral March.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnFJCfA4L9k&t=9s

Check out the "Renaissance Man" video from 2011 linked under the pic. Alexander says he learned to play for one reason: to help him coach better. How has that worked out?

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Re: Play a Funeral March For Us, Paul Alexander

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November 13 2017, 5:37 PM 

Was at the game, have to say that #70 is pure trash, my wife who knows nothing about football said it looked like Rerun trying to block
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Re: Play a Funeral March For Us, Paul Alexander

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November 14 2017, 8:25 PM 

And that has to be one of the biggest player mis-evaluations in the 50 years of Bengals existence. Ogbuehi was supposed to have "generational" talent, but it turns out he's a stiff. Where is the accountability for that?

Storm, glad you got to see a game live without contributing directly to MB's pocket.

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Ogbuehi is Fat Freddie Childress

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November 15 2017, 8:59 AM 

Ogbuehi is a bust for different reasons than Fat Freddie, but a huge bust either way.
It's like when the Bengals drafted that tight end with a smoking habit from San Jose State, and the whole league says "WTF?"
Or when the Bengals drafted Jerome Simpson who should have been a fifth rounder or lower.


The number of bizarre head scratchers coming from Cincy has to be higher than most teams...

You have guys like Will Clarke or Nick Vigil that were obvious reaches on draft day and then do nothing to convince us the Bengals know better.
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Re: Play a Funeral March For Us, Paul Alexander

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November 15 2017, 5:23 PM 

Yes Psycho, was nice knowing I wasn't directly benefiting Mike Brown
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Re: Play a Funeral March For Us, Paul Alexander

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December 4 2017, 9:20 PM 

The very offensive offensive line caved at the end of the Stoolers game in Week 13 when they desperately needed a scoring drive. And so they lose. That was more like how I expected the season to go -- play somewhere between okay to pretty good until crunch time. Turns out that is the high water mark for the season.

Here's something I was thinking about earlier today, before the game. When we use 20/20 hindsight as fans, we often forget how actions interact. Let's imagine that the Bungs had re-signed Andrew Whitworth int he offseason. Then what happens?

If Whitworth had returned to the Bungs...

- Maybe they don't sign Andre Smith as a free agent.

- Or maybe they do sign him but keep him as a guard per their original plan.

- Or maybe they make him a backup tackle like they did, but they don't move him into the rotation. So he never plays himself back into being a semi-effective lineman like he has now.

- Surely the line would have sucked anyway with Whitworth, just not as badly. So maybe Zampese keeps his job as offensive coordinator.

- And maybe Zampese continues to scheme as if he had a good offensive line for a few more weeks.

- And maybe Zampese continues to ignore AJ Green in his play calling, but not so badly as to cause Green to pitch a fit and trigger changes.

They probably would not have been better off, because they needed to do more than just re-sign that one player. Heck, maybe they are actually better off now because they had to face reality sooner. That's in relative terms of course.


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Re: Play a Funeral March For Us, Paul Alexander

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December 18 2017, 11:29 PM 

LT Cedric Ogbuehi is out for the rest of the season with a shoulder injury.

RT Andre Smith is out for the rest of the season with a knee injury.

RT Jeff Fisher was out for the season a long time ago with an irregular heartbeat that needed surgery.

So who plays tackle for the last two games of the season? They've got worn-out old warhorse Eric Winston as a backup. The only other tackles are on the practice squad. Expect the next two games to go like the last two, folks. Uncompetitive blowouts. (As if you weren't expecting that already.)

Paul Alexander, play that funeral march for use again, but with more gusto this time.

Dum, dum, da-dum, dum, da-dum, de, dum-dum-dum.


https://www.cincyjungle.com/2017/12/18/16792330/bengals-injury-news-cedric-ogbuehi-andre-smith-may-miss-final-2-games


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Re: Play a Funeral March For Us, Paul Alexander

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December 31 2017, 7:28 PM 

Alright --

The offensive line amazingly surges after all that reshuffling due to injuries. Two wins to close the season and Paul Alexander deserves some credit, but...

Doesn't all that illustrate that maybe the personnel was mishandled for most of the season? It seems as if the line didn't have to play so awful for so long. If your starting Left Guard makes a better Left Tackle than anybody else on the team, and you have some young guys who can fill in at guard...

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Re: Play a Funeral March For Us, Paul Alexander

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January 15 2018, 6:54 PM 

And so it comes to pass. Paul Alexander and Frank Pollack have traded jobs and owners. Alexander goes to Dallas to work for Jerry Jones. Pollack comes to Cincinnati to work for Mike Brown.

But get a load of this headline from none other than Alex Marvez, former Bengals beat writer for the Dayton Daily News.

Cowboys steal Paul Alexander from Bengals to coach vaunted offensive line
Alex Marvez - Sporting News - Updated at 1:27 p.m. ET

One of the NFL’s longest-tenured offensive line coaches is now in charge of one of the league’s most talented units.

A source told Sporting News that Dallas has hired Paul Alexander to handle the position.

Alexander spent the past 23 seasons as Cincinnati’s offensive line coach after serving one season coaching tight ends. He was promoted to assistant head coach in 2003. when Marvin Lewis joined the Bengals as head coach.

Among the offensive linemen Alexander has developed are two of the NFL’s top tackles of the past 20 years in Andrew Whitworth and Willie Anderson. Alexander now will have the chance to work with three of the top current linemen at their respective positions in Dallas left tackle Tyron Smith, center Travis Frederick and right guard Zack Martin.

Alexander opted to leave the Bengals with his contract expiring after the 2017 regular season. Cincinnati has replaced Alexander with Frank Pollack, who was recently fired by the Cowboys after three seasons.

Alexander’s hiring is the latest change on a Cowboys coaching staff being overhauled following this year’s 9-7 season that didn't lead to a playoff appearance.


http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/paul-alexander-dallas-cowboys-hire-new-offensive-line-coach-from-cincinnati-bengals/n9qkxj3oayra1d8v31docah9t


Yeah, that was quite steal alright. Reminiscent of an ancient Henny Youngman joke. Take my coach, please!

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