Ever On is dedicated to Dan Fogelberg and his artistry
in song... ...a place to meet and talk of our love of the music, of the lyrics, of the
way his hands seem to effortlessly and delicately become one with the
instrument and of his voice... ...that of a herald angel. Dan
Fogelberg creates a
sound that takes you to your beginnings and beyond, takes you to a place
of timelessness, mystery and wonderment... ...a place where dreams
become reality if only for the span of that particular song... ...but...
...those few moments are a gift from beyond our memories... ...and once
again we are in the heavens... ...if only for the moment.
No other singer/songwriter in
the world
can paint an image in words
as eloquently as Dan Fogelberg.
Ever On was picked for the name after his song by the
same name.
It is a travelers prayer.
May you carry it with you as you travel the web.
Many Thanks To Joe
WhalenAnd WHPC 90.3
FM
The Radio Tribute To Dan Fogelberg on Joe's
Frontiers* WHPC 90.3 FM Long Island
February 4, 2008
February 11, 2008 December 22, 2008
Daniel Grayling Fogelberg
1951~2007
*Frontiers (Monday 9:00pm / Thursday 10:00am Eastern) A
variety of music is spotlighted in this weekly program.
Joe has interviewed Patrick Moraz of Yes/Moody Blues and
Jerry Jeff Walker to name a couple.
Dear friends,
Dan left us
Sunday, December 16, 2007 at 6:00 a.m. He fought a brave
battle with cancer and died peacefully at home in Maine with
his wife Jean at his side. His strength, dignity, and grace
in the face of the daunting challenges of this disease were
an inspiration to all who knew him.
I'm
so grateful to all of you who wrote to Dan through The
Living Legacy website with your stories of how his music
touched your lives; with your uplifting words of
encouragement; with your declarations of admiration and
friendship.
Dan was a strong and private man, but even the mountain must
tremble, and during the toughest times he gained solace and
comfort from reading your letters and learning that his
music had been a source of light in your lives. Greatest of
all though, was the feeling you gave him that his time here
had served a purpose.
I hope you will find some peace in knowing that the joy and
comfort you found in his music winged it's way back to him
through your words, prayers, and good wishes.
Thank you,
Jean Fogelberg
"There is no darkness in this place that we're bound
Love is the only thing that matters" ~ DF
A Valentine Song
In February of 2005, Dan went to Colorado for a few
weeks to supervise some ranch business and to do some
work in the studio. I stayed in Maine to oversee the
final construction phase of our Maine house. It was
hard for us to be so far apart for so long, especially
since we would miss Valentine's Day together.
On the afternoon of the 14th, the florist brought me a
dozen long-stemmed red roses; FedEx brought me a CD
with a song Dan had written for me just for
Valentine's Day. The song is called "Sometimes A
Song", and it will be available for digital download
at iTunes, Amazon, Rhapsody and WalMart.com the week
of Valentine's Day.
100% of proceeds from all digital sales will be
donated to the Prostate Cancer Foundation.
Thanks for all of your support, encouragement, and
condolences.
Happy Valentine's Day,
Jean
This is one of eleven previously unrecorded
songs (nine originals) that will be
released later this year on a CD Dan titled "Love In
Time".
Special thanks to Irving Azoff and Bob Ludwig of
Gateway Mastering Studios.
Download
"Sometimes A Song"
from one
of the following locations and support Dan's Quest.
The
limited edition Dan Fogelberg "Quest" Lapel
Pin
"CONTINUE
DAN'S QUEST / BE INFORMED / GET TESTED"
3/4"
(same size as a penny) Cloisonne lapel pin with green,
red, gray, and white enamel on gold metal. Cost: $10
plus shipping & handling, all proceeds go to the
PCF to fund prostate cancer research. This 3/4"
size is a limited edition of 5,000.
Designed
by Jean Fogelberg exclusively for the Prostate Cancer
Foundation.
The
symbolism of the design:
~
The Scottish sword - Dan was half Scots-Irish (as many
of you know, his mother was born in Scotland); he fought
a valiant battle against cancer; and he was my knight in
shining armor (and apparently, many of you felt the same
way).
~
The Fleur-de-lis (flower of life) was used in Scottish
heraldry, and is said to symbolize many things, but
among them: purity, light, life, and hope.
~
The guitar is a rendering of one of Dan's favorite
Stratocasters, used on stage over many years.
~
Deep forest green and gold were Dan's favorite color
combination.
From Jean Fogelberg:
Dan and I battled Advanced Prostate Cancer for three and a half years. Those
were difficult days, but during that time we were bolstered by the knowledge
that research was being done, and the hope that a cure would be found "any
day now". That cure didn't come in time for Dan, but there are thousands of
men out there right now hoping and praying a cure will come in time for them.
The Prostate Cancer Foundation funds research at over 150 organizations all over
the world. They have funded over 1,400 projects aimed not just at early
detection and a cure, but also at finding treatments that will put less stress
on a man's body and allow him to live a more active, pain-free life while
fighting prostate cancer. Two of the research projects they are funding right
now are being conducted at Massachusetts General Hospital, where Dan was
treated.
You can help the PCF continue Dan's quest for a cure by making a credit card,
PayPal, or check donation. Large or small, every donation is appreciated.
Donations in Dan's memory have exceeded $50,300. To date, downloads of "Sometimes
A Song" have raised over $7,000 and the "Quest"
lapel pin has raised over $16,720.
Thank you in advance for your donation, for paying tribute to Dan, and for
helping to further prostate cancer research in his name.
"Life
is not measured by the number of breaths we take...
...but by the moments that take our breath away."
Thanks
For The Quote Holly!!!
"Love In Time" Release Date Set For August 13, 2009
In 2003, while compiling material for a CD of live recordings, Dan came across some rough demos he had recorded earlier in his career. He felt inspired to finish them and worked on the songs until May of 2004 when he was diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer. We decided we would get treatment in Boston, as we were in the process of building a home in Maine and felt that it would be healthier to be there where Dan could sail and ski, and the new house would be an engrossing, therapeutic project to work on. Dan began receiving the standard course of treatment at Massachusetts General Hospital and we became immersed in all the minute decisions of home building, with trips to Boston every other month for tests and shots.
In January and February of 2005 Dan returned to Colorado to resume working in the studio while I stayed in Maine to oversee the final construction phase. While there he recorded three new songs, one of which was "Sometimes A Song", a valentine for me that would later be released as a download on Valentine's Day 2008 to benefit the Prostate Cancer Foundation. In April of 2006 we returned to Colorado together. The ranch was for sale and and we needed to start sorting and organizing things. It was the most beautiful time of the year, warm and lush and everything in bloom. Dan completed, sequenced, and wrote the liner notes for the CD he titled “Love in Time”. He put it in our safe deposit box in Maine and asked me to release it after he was gone.
We never gave up hope that we would somehow beat this disease: we knew every cancer is different and every person is different, but we also knew the odds were against us. Dan was the strongest, bravest person I've ever known and I believed (as did our friends and family) that if anyone would be able to conquer this cancer, it would be him. He fought for every day with incredible determination and grace, and lived every minute to the fullest, sailing right up until two months before he died.
Dan left us on December 16, 2007 but his music continues - a living legacy to one of the most versatile and talented musicians, singers, and songwriters of his generation.
~ Jean Fogelberg
Dan Fogelberg Release - First in Six Years
Fred Migliore, host of FM Odyssey, the long-running nationally syndicated radio show,
has released a two CD interview retrospective with Dan Fogelberg.
There’s been enormous
response!!! Go to fmodyssey.com!!!
See What People Are Saying About This Release!!!
Dan passed away from advanced prostate cancer on
December 16th, 2007 at the age of 56.
During that interview, Fred engaged Dan in a wonderful, animated
conversation about Dan’s first 25 years in the music business. You will hear 13
full-length songs, including "Same Old Lang Syne," "Nether Lands," "The Last Nail,"
and "Mountains To The Sea," as well as Dan's thoughts on many of those songs.
This 2 CD Collector’s Edition is available for
$29.95 at fmodyssey.com
$3
from each CD sold will go to the Prostate Cancer Foundation in Dan’s name.
“This is a must for any true Dan fan. We have had the pleasure of hearing this, and it is indeed a treasure!”
- Dan Fogelberg's endorsed fan site, TheLivingLegacy.net
Click this link to get your copy today in time for Valentine’s giving!
Christmas came early for me as I just finished listening to Dan Fogelberg: A Retrospective Interview! I purchased this cd, not for the music (as I have it all, of course!) but for the rare chance to hear this private man speak about the inspiration and thoughts behind his incredible works. Much to my happiness, the interviewer, Fred Migliore, did an outstanding job of engaging Dan with insightful, well thought out questions. To hear Dan laugh, reminisce and enlighten us with each track was a treat I shall treasure! Cheers to FM
Odyssey for making this available for all to hear! - C.H.
What an exciting finished piece of artwork. Fabulous, warm, heart wrenching, memorable and on and on. Thank you very much for taking the time to pull this project together. - David and Ellyn, TN
I received the cd set and I am telling everyone about it because I am enjoying the interview with Dan Fogelberg and I am truly fascinated with the stories behind the songs. Thank you so much for sending it to me. I am so glad I decided to buy this for myself as a Christmas gift because I will treasure it for the rest of my life. - Michele M.
Just finished listening to my Christmas present - Dan's interview CD with Fred. What an awesome gift to have for years to come. This candid interview revealed answers to questions that had been going around in my head, such as what or whom is the song Tucson, Arizona (Gazette) about. I'll be truthful - I did not want this interview or CD to end, as it felt like Dan was being interviewed today and that we would be hearing from him again in the future. - Aaron B., Montana
That's
right... ...for every 2 CD Interview sold a total of $6 will be
donated to the Prostate Cancer Foundation in Dan's name...
...$3 from FMOdyssey.com and $3
from Ever On.
Go to FMOdyssey.com
and click on the BUY NOW button... ...on the 2nd page after clicking
that button there will be a drop down menu. Select Ever On from that
menu to get $6 dollars donated in Dan's name... ...any other
selection only donates $3.
Hey my fellow
DanFan Brothers... ...have you been tested this year? When Dan
passed away I made a resolution to get tested every year and made an
appointment with my doc. The DRE (Digital Rectal Exam) is never fun
but it only lasts a few seconds. Dr. Poirier said my prostate felt
normal. Next I went for lab work - the PSA (Prostate Specific Antigen)
test. Normal levels are below 4.0 and my level of PSA was 0.4. Those
are the results from 2008.
2009 came and I
made my appointment again. I forgot about needing to fast for 12
hours prior to the lab work so I have to return for the PSA test.
The DRE for 2009 indicated that my prostate was normal. I'll let you
know about the PSA when I get it done within the next week.
Ladies... ...get
your husband, boyfriend, brothers, fathers and any other males you
know 40 years old and above to make the appointment and get
tested.
William Isaacs,
Ph.D., has spent much of the last decade testing his self-discipline
with the greatest puzzle of all, the human genome. He is searching
for the genes involved in hereditary prostate cancer (see "What
is HPC?" ); his initial tests took him through the body's
23 pairs of chromosomes at the astonishing rate of about 10 million
base pairs (genetic building blocks) at a time, and gleaned a
handful of promising sites that deserved further study.
After those giant
strides, however, the next part has had Isaacs creeping at what
seems a snail's pace--if his previous tests were the equivalent of
flying over an area, now he's conducting a house-to-house search,
examining hundreds of genes, one at a time. He is working mostly in
the dark: He doesn't know how many genes he's looking for, and --
although he and colleagues have narrowed it down considerably -- he
still isn't sure exactly where to find them. Worse, nobody has ever
looked at these genes before. So before he can even determine
whether or not a gene looks promising, he must first figure out what
it is. Think of an explorer sailing in uncharted waters, facing a
string of islands, investigating each one and producing a
topographical map. "Each one of these genes," he explains,
"could be a Ph.D. dissertation in itself, just to identify and
characterize the gene, get the structure and sequence it," not
to mention comparing all of this new information in the DNA of
hundreds of men with HPC and their families.
And yet, slowly
but surely, this hard work is paying off: So far, Isaacs and
colleagues at Hopkins and the National Human Genome Research
Institute have found good evidence that at least two of these
defective genes do indeed exist: One is somewhere on Chromosome 1,
and the other, most recently discovered, ties on the X chromosome --
a milestone in cancer research, this is the first time the X
chromosome (which sons inherit from their mothers) has been
definitively linked to a major cancer. Isaacs would love to start
figuring out the role those aberrant genes play in the cascade of
events leading to prostate cancer. Instead, he is steeling himself
to keep turning over those pieces -- in this case, the pieces are
thousands of undiscovered genes--until he can see the puzzle in its
entirety. Although they haven't yet pinpointed the faulty genes on
either chromosome, Isaacs and colleagues have identified certain
characteristics that suggest which mutation a family may have: In
families with a mutated HPC1 gene.
Continue
Dan's Quest ~ Be Informed ~ Get Tested
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You can get to this by going to the regular photo gallery page and clicking the skull at the bottom.
So I wanted to let everyone know about a new book that Joe Vitale and his wife Susie just wrote called Backstage Pass which has lots of great stories of Joe's tours including some wonderful photos and stories of times with Dan.
One of the things mentioned in there was a brief time after Exiles where Dan went around Colorado with Joe and some others and played blues incognito. The band was called Frankie and the Aliens. So the challenge is to see if anyone can track down any recordings of any of those shows.
Take care everyone along the road, Cindy
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Cindy, thanks for posting about the book. I'd been debating whether or not to buy it. It sounds like you enjoyed it, and it includes some good Dan stories - that's just what I needed to make up my mind. As for recordings of Frankie and the Aliens, I'd sure love to see that challenge met. I've searched online every now and then for years, to no avail. Maybe someone else has had better luck. Let's hope so, anyway.
Kelly
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You've piqued my interest, Cindy, so I guess I'll have to buy the book even if there's only a small mention of Dan in it.
As to Frankie and the Aliens, I've been trying to track down a recording of that group since July 15, 1988. In 1997, I put up a web page with what information I had on the group, asking for more, but no one has ever sent me anything.
On that site, http://alvindigo.0catch.com/Frankie_and_the_Aliens.html, there are photos of Dan, Joe, and Rick Rosas, plus what appears to be an actual alien (or maybe it's just a tall human with an alien headmask), a copy of a ticket to a Frankie and the Aliens performance on November 23, 1985, and a few other little tidbits, including a setlist of that show sent to me by a fan.
You can bet that someone, somewhere, recorded one of their shows. I just haven't found them.
Thanks again for directions to Joe's book.
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Hey Alvin. Got a kick out of your Aliens site. I can share the few things I've found in my travels around the web - it's not much, but maybe it will lead you to something more substantial.
The "missing" Frankie and the Aliens guitarist might be Tino Gonzales. He's a blues/jazz musician originally from Chicago. Can't remember exactly what led me to his name, but it may have been some old news articles I found. Then there were a couple of "well wishes" from him on the Living Legacy site with references to the blues band. Here's a link to one of them: http://www.thelivinglegacy.net/Wishes/March26-3106.html
And here's a link to Tino's website: http://www.tinogonzales.com/index.htm I don't see anything about Dan on the current site, but I have a memory of seeing "Frankie and the Aliens" mentioned on a previous version of his site.
Another name that may or may not be connected is Chaz Efting. He was in a band in the 60s called Billy Rat and the Finks. There's a mention somewhere out there of him playing with Frankie and the Aliens, but I never found anything more about him. Could be a different Aliens band though......it's hard to say.
As far as venues go, besides the Rainbow Music Hall, we've always heard that Frankie and the Aliens played small clubs around Colorado, but I've also seen some references to Club West in Santa Fe. It no longer exists, but apparently it was the hot club in the mid '80s. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Dan played there with his blues band.
It seems Rainbow might be the most likely venue for a recording, since the ListenUp folks, who recorded shows at Ebbets Field, also recorded Rainbow shows......though I've never seen one for Frankie and the Aliens. But, ya never know.....maybe something will turn up eventually. A year ago, I wouldn't have held out much hope of ever hearing a recording of Frankie and the Aliens, but in this past year a lot of amazing things have surfaced that I never expected to find, so now I believe that could turn up too.
Kelly
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Well, you are right about the hope that one day a recording may surface from this. I did finish Joe's book and really enjoyed it quite a bit. I think a lot of Dan fans are also CSN fans and just will find the road stories of many bands to be fun. Let me know what you guys thought of the book.
Thanks for the additional alien readings too - I appreciate that.
Another set of road stories if you've never read them are from Mike Botts from the final tour which are herehttp://everon.info/.
Hope spring is making its way around the country for everyone - can't come soon enough to Pittsburgh for me!
Cindy
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It's taken me two weeks to respond to yet another gem from your amazing research abilities. I had hoped to quickly find photos of the two missing aliens, but only one has been captured so far. After you gave me the names, I began searching and found the 2008 Iowa Music Museum Hall of Fame which listed Chaz Efting as a member of a group being inducted and mentioned his being one of Frankie's aliens. Then I found a website from near Barcelona, Spain, featuring Tino Gonzales, including his tour with Dan in Frankie and the Aliens. The article is written in Catalan, so I don't know a whole lot about what else was said (and the Google translation was imperfect), but it was fun trying to read it!
Thanks to you, I'll be able, as soon as I can find a picture of Chaz, to have a complete Composite Picture (from different places and time periods) of the band!
Thanks again!
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Hey Alvin.....appologies for this e x t r e m e l y late reply. I've enjoyed the transformation of your Aliens site, in all its incarnations, but I apparently missed your last post here. So I'm just chiming in now to say......you're welcome. I knew if anyone could make good use of a little shred of info, it would be you. And you did not disappoint.......love what you've done with the place. The Rocky Mountain News lives!!
Enjoyed your commentary on Dan's Blues, especially the various versions of "Don't Let That Sun Go Down". I was surprised to read that you've heard "Over and Over" played at restaurants. I've never heard it played anywhere, except my own speakers. Maybe I don't visit the right restaurants.
The band members' page is looking good, even though Chaz's part is still a bit of a mystery. I couldn't find any other sources to confirm his contribution either. But there does seem to be enough evidence to support Tino's part in the band. Your original page is still a classic. Oh, and I love the little Joe head. And, of course, Frankie the Alien.
One question -- "Houston, we have a problem"......Is that Dan? I've listened several times, but I'm still not sure. I remember him saying it in one of the old shows I have, but that clip on the site doesn't quite sound like him. (I tried to find the show I was thinking of to compare, but I couldn't remember which one it was. But of course, he may have used that line more than once. He was never shy about repeating a good line )
Well, thanks for your continued contributions to the Fogelworld-wide-web. Hope life is treating you well.
Kelly
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Glad you've enjoyed the Aliens. You are, after all, responsible for much of it. Without you and Joe, it wouldn't be much, so take pride in your major contributions! From your post, I see you've located some of the hidden nooks and crannies -- ah, those elusive aliens, always lurking, just out of sight, aren't they?!!!
As for the restaurant music, the Rivergate Red Lobster in Goodlettsville, Tennessee, used to play a fair amount of Dan. I heard "Over and Over" at least twice and "The Way it Must Be" and "What You're Doing" multiple times. I don't think I ever heard those three anywhere else except at concerts and frequently, here at The Home. Currently playing here (at The Home) is the early `80's album Beauty Lies by Michael Brewer, produced by Dan Fogelberg. The song is "Love's Endless War", and I'm thoroughly enjoying some remarkable guitar work of the incomparable Dan Fogelberg.
The "Houston, we have a problem" soundclip is, indeed, Dan, from a webcast of a Houston concert just after the release of "Full Circle." It was intended to introduce the album to the rest of the world, outside of US, but there were multiple technical problems after the first couple of songs or so. Poor quality, large gaps (silence), etc., led to an early termination of the concert. At one point, after a bit of silence, Dan spoke the famous line from -- from -- was it Apollo 11, astronaut Stafford, maybe? One of my favorite concerts ever was the September 29, 1995, Majestic Theatre tour-opening performance in San Antonio, without a doubt, the most energy-charged performance I ever witnessed from Dan. That was as close as I ever got to a Houston concert, but, I agree with you, Kelly, Dan may have used that line before, if ever a problem occurred at a Houston concert. He DID love to latch on to a line which amused him and share it Over and Over Again.
Ten days!
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From the audio clip, I learned that the quote is:
"Houston, we've had a problem," by Jack Swigert
aboard Apollo 13.
The quote I remembered by Astronaut Thomas Stafford
was uttered during a quite tense moment. The quote
pertained to his opinion that an onboard circuit
was condemned by The Deity. I won't include the
text of that one on this forum.
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The original is often misquoted, and most often attributed to Jim Lovell. In the movie "Apollo 13," it is Jim Lovell, played by Tom Hanks, and not Jack Swigert, played by Kevin Bacon, who says it, and they intentionally had Hanks say the line without historical accuracy. Hanks says, "Houston, we have a problem," in order to avoid making it look like the problem was over and done with. Why it matters to the movie, I don't know. A 1970's TV movie was entitled, "Houston, We've Got a Problem," which focused on things happening on the ground and not in space, and which heavily contributed to the misquoting of the original. Even the original NASA typed transcript of the original incorrectly attributes the first statement of the problem to Lovell and not Swigert, although a handwritten note in the margin notes the reporting that the first statement was Swigert's.
From the audiotape, to which you have linked a copy, you can hear Swigert first say, "OK, Houston, we've had a problem here." The Capcom then says, "This is Houston, say again, please." And then Lovell says, "Uh, Houston, we've had a problem." Even if the official transcript says that both statements are from Lovell, you can hear on the tape that it isn't Lovell's voice the first time, it is Swigert's. And Lovell himself has said that it was Swigert who said it the first time.
So who gets credit for the quote, Swigert, who said it first, or Lovell, who said it again?
And is it best to misquote it? People like to say it in situations such as the one where Dan said it, when there is an existing problem (and of course, there was an existing problem when Swigert and Lovell said it, too, even if they used the past tense). As Ron Howard recognized in the movie, it makes more sense in that situation to say, "Houston, we have a problem." So, do you quote accurately while wrongly implying the problem is in the past, or do you quote wrongly while accurately implying that the problem is ongoing?
The answers to these questions are beyond my grasp.
Bob T.
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Actually, Bob T., you only posed three questions, the answers to which you indicate are beyond you. In the early `80's words of Dan, as sung by Michael Brewer, and soon to be heard from Dan's voice, "...in time will come to all,", and I have no doubt you'll have your answers, in time. For years, I never knew the meaning of "25 or 6 to 4," but, in time, I heard an interview with a Chicago band member, and now I see clearly. When I heard his explanation, it all made so much sense. I still don't know questions 57 & 58, but, as Dan sang, back in the late `80's, and as Manassas and Firefall had sung before that, "It Doesn't Matter." That was on Dan's Exiles project, so this may make no sense to you, Bob T.. (another question: when I end a sentence with "Bob T.", should I end it with one or two dots?).
As to Astronaut quotes, I think I'll concentrate on, and laugh about, the blasphemous remarks of Tom Stafford related to that troublesome circuit, those remarks broadcast to all the world, those remarks which embarrassed or infuriated many here in the Bible Belt, those remarks which, though they indicated a serious situation and which attempted to convey, in part, the same message as "Houston, a problem exists," they also indicated that Colonel Stafford had the same opinion of the circuitry as Dan did of the shopping malls springing up where farms and marshlands had been ("Blind to the Truth", The Wild Places, 1990). Although my thought at the time of hearing it was something akin to a silent "OMG", I later laughed about the many comments of people who obviously didn't talk that way and had never been aboard a troubled space craft outside the earth's atmosphere.
Now I forget; what was the question?
- aside to Brett - This post was started about four hours ago. I keep getting a popbox indicating that "this application has been disabled - please check serial number" - which number do I check? Ah --- yet another question ---
EVER ON!!!
EIGHT MORE DAYS !!!!!!!!!
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Actually, Bob T., you only posed three questions, the answers to which you indicate are beyond you. In the early `80's words of Dan, as sung by Michael Brewer, and soon to be heard from Dan's voice, "...in time will come to all,", and I have no doubt you'll have your answers, in time. For years, I never knew the meaning of "25 or 6 to 4," but, in time, I heard an interview with a Chicago band member, and now I see clearly. When I heard his explanation, it all made so much sense. I still don't know questions 57 & 58, but, as Dan sang, back in the late `80's, and as Manassas and Firefall had sung before that, "It Doesn't Matter." That was on Dan's Exiles project, so this may make no sense to you, Bob T.. (another question: when I end a sentence with "Bob T.", should I end it with one or two dots?).
As to Astronaut quotes, I think I'll concentrate on, and laugh about, the blasphemous remarks of Tom Stafford related to that troublesome circuit, those remarks broadcast to all the world, those remarks which embarrassed or infuriated many here in the Bible Belt, those remarks which, though they indicated a serious situation and which attempted to convey, in part, the same message as "Houston, a problem exists," they also indicated that Colonel Stafford had the same opinion of the circuitry as Dan did of the shopping malls springing up where farms and marshlands had been ("Blind to the Truth", The Wild Places, 1990). Although my thought at the time of hearing it was something akin to a silent "OMG", I later laughed about the many comments of people who obviously didn't talk that way and had never been aboard a troubled space craft outside the earth's atmosphere.
Now I forget; what was the question?
- aside to Brett - This post was started about four hours ago. I keep getting a popbox indicating that "this application has been disabled - please check serial number" - which number do I check? Ah --- yet another question ---
EVER ON!!!
EIGHT MORE DAYS !!!!!!!!!
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Always heard it was about an acid trip, but Robert Lamm, discussing the meaning of the song in a Soundstage interview, informed us that the band was trying to write a song, having been up all night, and he had fallen asleep, sitting cross-legged in the floor. He said he awoke, hearing one of the band members ask, "Does Anybody Really Know What Time it is?" and he looked, blurry-eyed, at the clock on the wall. He could tell it was just past 3:30 a.m. and that the minute hand was either on the "7" or just before it, and he gave the response "25 or 6 to 4", meaning:
"It's either 25 minutes
`til four or 26 minutes `til four."
- in keeping with policy, the song was written the same year as Summerhill's "Soft Voice", during Dan's junior year in high school. It was the psychedelic era. I was listening to my Summerhill vinyl today, trying to imagine how great the faux-orchestral strains sounded in a room filled with smoked mushrooms.
- Sigh -
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I've long thought of Netherlands as a great psychedelic drug induced album, and I absolutely love that album. It did come after what you refer to as the psychedelic era, but if Dan was only a junior in high school around then, well, he wasn't quite ready for a great psychedelic drug induced album, so if he was a little late to the party, I guess that's OK.
Speaking of late to the party, it was always claimed that Terry Kath was not high on drugs or alcohol when he accidentally blew his brains out. His death was in January 1978, not too long after the release of Netherlands. Does a person who is really not under the influence of anything, whether psychedelics or cocaine or marijuana or alcohol or whatever, really put a .38 to his head, pull the trigger several times, then put a 9mm semiautomatic to his head and pull the trigger, even if he's shown the empty magazine to someone? This occurring "after" a party?
I tend to be skeptical about many explanations from band members about song lyrics. I remember well hearing Brewer and Shipley on the radio explaining that "One Toke Over the Line" had nothing to do with marijuana or any other drug. They somehow tried to claim that the word "toke" was a derived from the word "take." I was an ignorant kid at the time and I really wanted to believe them, but the explanation was so nonsensical that I thought they must have been on drugs during the interview. Of course, the artists are more honest than the record companies, as shown by the song "Timothy" by that one hit wonder The Buoys, written by Rupert Holmes. Since some stations banned the song for being about cannibalism (a mining accident, only two of three guys come out with full stomachs, Timothy is nowhere to be found), the record company decided to claim that Timothy was a mule. Holmes, however, didn't play along (it probably didn't help that he had written the song with the intention of getting it banned).
Nonetheless, I'm willing to believe what Robert Lamm says about the meaning of 25 or 6 to 4 (ah, early Chicago, good stuff -- the group was never the same after Terry Kath's death).
I wonder if Birds had the same meaning for Dan as for Neil Young. I always like the "After the Gold Rush" album, and the title track is one of my favorite psychedelic drug induced songs of all time. But "Birds" as the last track on Dan's last studio album somehow results in a much different feeling than it does when stuck in the middle of "After the Gold Rush."
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1. Nether Lands - Strange, I never thought of the album as psychedelic or drug-induced. I just noticed it was drastically different from his first three projects.
2. Chicago - I agree they changed. I sort of lost interest after that. But I do think Lamm's explanation was valid.
3. Brewer and Shipley's explanation sounds hilarious. I missed that. I thought everybody except Lawrence Welk understood what One Toke Over The Line was about. I think YouTube still has LW introducing the song as a "contemporary Christian" song and two straight-laced singers performing it. Before you watch it, try to think of something sad so your howling laughter won't drown out the sounds of the singers.
4. Lame Explanations - Dan was pretty honest in his explanations, I think. I remember one interview when he was asked about "The River". Dan just laughed. "I don't remember. I don't know what kind of medicine I was taking," or similar words. I think I read or heard three explanations of "Wysteria", and I believe Dan believed Timothy was a mule.
5. BIRDS - I've heard maybe a dozen performers do "Birds", and I never thought anything other than the end of a relationship, with both parties continuing earthly life. The night I visited Amazon and saw "Birds" on the songlist and thought of the lyrics "It's over", something inside me just dropped, and I think I exclaimed aloud, "Oh, no, oh my God." Not blaspheming, y`all; just giving my honest first expressions. Dan did it his way, all the way to the end. Since I first saw the songlist, I've continued to think something about the two 1968 songs included in the project - two songs from Dan's senior year in high school. I just wonder. But that's for another post, perhaps.
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Last week we were in San Francisco on vacation. My husband recommended that we stay at the Embarcadaro Center because it was in a good part of town and near transportation. I was in a shoe store paying for my purchases and my 12 year old was standing outside about ten feet away. The door was open at this place so I could see her and well as hear her. She was approached by a street person and was asked if she wanted to donate money for canibus research. She said she didn't have any money and the guy moved on. I asked her if she knew what the guy was talking about and she said she had no clue. I told her he was asking for money to buy pot. She knew what that was!
An awful lot of good music has come from various people's experiences and experiments with various substances. Dan being very much one of them. I wonder if drugs have influence today's music like it did back in the "olden days."
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OK, good thing I wasn't drinking milk when I watched that Lawrence Welk You Tube video, or it would have been coming out of my nose. An accordian player, not LW, introduces the song, saying, "Here's an attractive couple, Gail Farrell from Durand, Oklahoma, and Dick Dale, from Algona, Iowa. Let's listen to Gail and Dale and one of the newer songs." He's acting like something is catching in his throat as he does this introduction -- is it because he understands what's going on? And then there's Dale in his white suit standing next to Gail who is sitting on the second rung of a ladder in her innocent looking red and white outfit. And they sing the darned song. And afterwards, LW, baton in hand, says, "There you heard a modern spiritual by Gail and Dale."
Unfortunately, I was not in the mood to think of something sad while watching it, so I had to work real hard to suppress the howling laughter so I could hear the darned thing. Wow. When I get home from work, I'll have to show that one to my wife. Her parents actually met dancing to Lawrence Welk back in 1954, so as much as we might want to mock Lawrence, she and I and my children owe a lot to Lawrence.
Last week during a Giants broadcast, there was a replay of a pitcher to home to first double play that had occurred in the previous half inning. The play-by-play guy Duane Kuiper referred to it as a "Lawrence Welk double play." For those ignorant people in the audience, color man Mike Krukow explained, "A one and a two and a three." (For those reading who don't know, that play is scored 1 to 2 to 3, and I won't bother with further explanation).
This led to a discussion on the broadcast of Lawrence Welk. Kuiper explained how his parents made him watch Lawrence Welk when he was growing up. He said it was a choice of that or needles in the eye, Krukow claimed the same experience and said it was a close call which to choose. Kuiper said if it weren't for the Lennon Sisters, he would have picked needles in the eye. Krukow then suggested they had just lost half the audience, and Kuiper said there are at least a couple of 50 year olds out there who agree about the Lennon sisters. As a person who is one month shy of 49, I did not really agree that the Lennon Sisters made it worth watching (although I was only forced to watch when I was at my grandparents' apartment, and I think my grandfather watched in part for the Lennon Sisters).
Kuiper also talked about LW's accent, and how the b's came out p's, and how it cracked him up when he would say, "I'm going to pee in your town tonight." But that is not anywhere near as much of a crackup as Gail and Dale singing "One Toke Over the Line" and LW referring to it as "a modern spiritual." Holy Mackeral, that is priceless.
I also looked at a live performance by Brewer and Shipley at a NORMAL party in 1998, where they refer to the LW performance of their song, but they were in England when it was broadcast and at that time, they had never heard it. I hope with the magic of You Tube, they've seen it by now. Again, priceless, thank you for the pointer to that, Alvin.
With respect to Birds, I do wonder if Neil ever viewed the song the way Dan did. I always thought there was a certainly cruelty to that song, in thinking, as you did, of the one "flying away without you" as still being alive after flying away. OMG is an appropriate response in seeing a different meaning when it is a track on Dan's final studio album made while dying. Holy Mackeral to that one, too, but in a different way than the Holy Mackeral response to LW and "One Toke Over the Line."
I assume Neil thought of it the way you and I always did, but Dan's use does make me wonder if he thought differently. Who knows what thoughts go through a guy's head when he's on drugs like Neil was in composing at least some of the "After the Gold Rush" album.
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No, I don't believe Neil intended it, or even thought of it, the way Dan used it. Neil was breaking up, or had broken up, with a person of romantic interest. He was telling her "there will be another one to care for you; you'll remember things from me, and you'll know what to do."
Dan was saying goodbye to Jean.
Ummmm. Still hits me like a load of bricks.
Somewhere, I read that Neil has 23 songs about birds or with references to birds. The article mentioned a youthful Neil working on a farm or ranch on the Canadian plains and how it affected Neil when birds would fly over en masse and literally darken the day. It apparently had a tremendous lasting effect on Neil, as revealed in many of his songs.
Bob T., I enjoyed your fond family memory revelations about Lawrence Welk. I wonder whether many of us don't have such memories of Lawrence Welk and just don't mention them for fear of ridicule. I think I have misjudged Lawrence, and will forever view him, and his productions, in a different light now, knowing that he aired a Toker Tune. I think I should search YouTube to see whether Lawrence's singers ever covered "Purple Haze", "School's Out" or any selections from the Rock Opera Hair.
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Six months have passed since you issued the challenge to find recordings of Frankie and the Aliens. No one has come forward to publicize their recordings. I'm still as certain as I was then, and as I was in 1991 when I started my search in earnest, that a recording exists.
Eons ago, when I was a little boy (back at the dawn of civilization), people scoffed at the idea of alien life. To my little mind, the scoffing was absurd. With, in the words of the late great Carl Sagan, "billions and billions" of stars out there, and billions of Class M planets, the idea of other life not existing was as absurd as any notion ever uttered. Likewise, it would be most unlikely that Dan could have played more than a dozen engagements in late 1985 and that no recording ever occurred on those nights. It was not, as we know, initially publicized that Dan was the man behind the alien identity, but by the time he played the Rainbow Room in Denver, word had made its way to the public that a whiskerless Dan was the head alien.
Don't you stand there and tell me (foot patting and hand on hip, Aretha-style) that nobody recorded Dan that night.
In this area (Music City USA), many artists have their gigs recorded, routinely. In the mid-`80's, I was a concert goer, and though I never recorded a concert until the `90's, I saw others do it. Makes me wonder whether any of the band members may have one or more recordings of the aliens. But I'm not a person who would ask them. It would please us all, I know, if someone would get with Jean and work out the publication of a recording, but I have no realistic hope of that happening.
By 1888, word was out that Dan intended to do a blues project. I was excited. Word was also out that he would do a solo acoustic project, a live project, and an album of covers of Gordon Lightfoot songs. The live project happened, but the others didn't. I hope there are recordings out there somewhere waiting to be produced, but, if not, I'm happy that Dan gave us all he did and that we've been given this special gift which was released this month, but I do not expect more. Early in 1990, when Dan had not released an album for nearly three years, I was about to give up, so I did a cut and paste job and just made my own cassette tape of Dan's songs, "Blues and Bluegrass" - one style on each side, not all mixed!
Jean has placed a link on danfogelberg.com to a couple of sites which have comments from Jon Asher on, among other things, Dan's plan to do a blues album and the inspiration for Frankie and the Aliens, which he called "Dan's perfect blues band." Jon, as most of you likely know, was the head of the Coachmen band which recruited Dan from the Clan, another sixties Peoria band. Jon wrote that, after a particularly nasty divorce in 1985, he found himself in Santa Fe with a pickup which contained all his possessions. Dan, who was having marital problems of his own, met up with him there. They rented an old adobe hut in a wild, unsettled area in the highlands of the Santa Fe area, and Jon organized the Emergency Blues Band, which became a legend in the Santa Fe area (the bad boys of blues), playing for ten years at El Farol, a restaurant as old as New Mexico itself. Their rehearsals were there in the adobe abode, which Dan called "The Chicken Shack" and which Dan's mom called "a den of iniquity".
Jon writes that out of the Chicken Shack grew the inspiration for Frankie and the Aliens. He wrote: "The blues side of Dan was perhaps one of his most talented but unsung guitar work. The band rocked, to say the least, but as was later observed in Denver, no one expected to hear that kind of music." Jon's site includes mp3 files of his blues album "Blues Shadow", including "Blow Wind Blow", which Dan played not only as Frankie but also in concert for all of us in the `90's.
Any number of people could have a recording of Frankie and the Aliens, but it may be that we'll get no closer to it than by listening to Dan's recordings of "Road Beneath My Wheels", "Nature of the Game", "Statesboro Blues", "Blow Wind Blow", "What You're Doing", his bluesiest versions of "Rhythm of the Rain," and from remembering a few other blues gems his did live for us, along the road.
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