I am looking for een new set of speakers for my Campion and Byron. One of the (many) options is the JM Lab Electra 926 which seem interresting to me. It is not easy for me to listen to this speaker, the nearest dealer is quite far away. So I would like to ask if there is anyone who has tried JM Lab speakers on Sonneteer. If so, how does it sound??
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We did a show with J M Lab speakers some years ago and we wer not as happy with them as we were with some other speakers using the Campion and Alabaster.
Although they have a good midband they are over damped in the Bass and hence are more suited to Valve amplifier which lose a lot of control at the bottom end.
Saying that we do have customers who do use them and like them.
If you could give us an idea of the othe roption you are considering we can give you our experience with them.
Haider.
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Well, its a kind of a mystery at the moment. I thought i had a potential speaker with the dutch high end speaker builder JK Acoustics (check their site jkacoustics.com). Their speakers are really fantastic but they did not match with Sonneteer at all.
In the past I heard the Klipsch RF 3 and 7 on my old amp (Onkyo) and I did like it but the soundstage can be better I think. So I thougt the JM Lab could be a good choice. With a bit of good luck there will be a dealer nearby within a couple of weeks so I can check it. Another option could be the PMC FB1 (that same dealer also has PMC). I heard another PMC on the Campion and that wasn't as good as I would like it to be. Perhaps a Vienna Acoustics (Beethoven) but I have never heard that either. I want a neutral, cristalclear (some will call it bright), not to warm sounding speaker wich can go quite low and has a soudstage matching the quality's of the Byron and the Campion. Goodlooking is not a must but it helps in the WAF department and I also like looking at a beautiful speaker as well (I think the JM lab Electra 926 is a beautiful speaker).
Did i understand it correct that you wrote that there are customers who use JM lab speakers on Sonneteers??? Do you know what JM Lab speakers they use?? I always hear and read that JM Lab has thigt punchy (some call it thin) bass. In general that is what I like.
I would really like to get (any) suggestions from you.
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Another example of a speaker i will try to hear is the Amphion Creon and/or Xenon. They seem to have a good senatifity, which i an looking for. The reviews are very good (which don´t say anything really), they seem to have the character i like and they look stunning to my.
Anything about Amphion on Sonneteer??
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Well if you like thin bass then the JM labs in my experience do have thin Bass and yes some people like this.They do have an open spaciouse sound in general too. Also they tend to be more suited to Valve amps as they have no control in the Bass department and this tighter sound helps.
Both the other speakers you speak of are not familiar to me. I open it up to anyone else who has any experience at all may be they can help.
Have you tried the Penaudio speakers?
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Yes, I´ve heard the Penaudio en they where fantastic...but. I did not like the bas. Without the subwoofer there was not much bas. With the subwoofer the bas was boomy and not fast enough. For that kind of money it should be good and it wans´t.
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They have some good speakers although they can be expensive in europe. Some are not very efficient so do need testing out, but in general are not bad at all.
Also worth trying ( and some will hate me for saying this) the Jamo Concert 8 it has a new name now, I think DB8 or something, but it is a very good if a little clinical speaker.
It is intersting what you say about the Penaudio because I think the JM Lab have this problem too. Postioning can be critical to get good Bass from the Penaudio so may not suit all set ups.
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An edit function afterwards would be nice, looking at my previous postings. I'm reading my own bad English with a lot of mistakes. As you will understand I'm not speaking or writing English very often.
I found a dealer nearby who has Amphion and Audio Physics speakers. I will try to listen to them shortly (a few weeks)and I will write my experiences and opinions here.
About the Penaudio I think (but I'm not shure), that perhaps the Campion does not have enough power for the Penaudio speakers (with the subwoofer)to get a really good bas from it. When I listened to them the speakers were standing in the middle of the room.
The Amphion Creon (www.amphion.fi) looks a little bit like the Penaudio with the subwoofer (they are both from Finland). But I'm thinking I might get the same experience with the Creons as I had with the Penaudio (sensitifity speakers to low??, not enough power in the amp??).
I will be criticall when I will listen to the JM Lab as well.
I will let you know.
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At the moment i am listening to jm lab electra 906-ocos-alabaster-naim cd3.
Beautiful midrange, great depth and imaging, good bass (perhaps a bit lacking in punch).
I am very satisfied, perhaps you can do somewhat better in the bass department with other speakers, but i am shure you'll lose much of the fluidity, insight and tonal accuracy of this combination.
George
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I have used JM Labs Cobalt 816 with the Campion,I would recommed an alabaster for a bit more control and punch. The cobalt 816 are great, very fast and the bass is not weak or lacking its tight, controlled and deep, if you have the right amplifier it growls and in most rooms that is infinitly preferable to boom and waffle. They will show you what your amplifier is doing,I think the combination is very musical.You will not be listening to bass,treble or midrange you will be listening to music
Ray Fordham
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I have used JM Labs Cobalt 816 with the Campion,I would recommed an alabaster for a bit more control and punch. The cobalt 816 are great, very fast and the bass is not weak or lacking its tight, controlled and deep, if you have the right amplifier it growls and in most rooms that is infinitly preferable to boom and waffle. They will show you what your amplifier is doing,I think the combination is very musical.You will not be listening to bass,treble or midrange you will be listening to music
Ray Fordham
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