SP-808/SP-808EX/A6 DISCUSSION FORUM
SP-808 -perfect condition in a box for SALEbyI am selling my Roland SP-808 with OS upgraded to the EX. Comes in a box with manual, cord and foam. Used in my studio. I live in Montreal -Canada. Will ship it in Canada and US. Price Negotiable. if intrested just contact me. thank you. from IP address 65.94.8.60 |
Re:SP808 for salebyHow much do ya want for your SP 808? I am looking at 2 right now..I am willing to pay $400 shipped. Let me know if your interested ASAP. Joe Phono from IP address 65.121.16.125 |
Please read !!by AtlantaCan anyone recommend an Audio Interface with Digital, MIDI, and Optical? How about the Yamaha UW500 ? Also, I'm assuming that one optical channel = stereo correct? from IP address 129.33.49.251 |
I like the UW500!by John WestwoodIt's a pretty solid unit, and have been using it for almost 2 years now! from IP address 64.228.51.109 |
Thanks, one more question ...by AtlantaAppreciate the help. Couple more things... 1. How was the noise level? I find that I get a lot of background noise with the 808, do you have any suggestions on getting rid of the noise? Software programs? 2. I'm looking to record using this interface, and hearing that it messes with the BPM's I'm worried. Should I go with a more expensive solution? from IP address 129.33.49.251 |
No probs, it's safe!by John WestwoodAs for the noise of the 808 - that's probably the Zip drive, which can be murder around guitars and microphones. Best solution is to move the input gear as far away from the 808 as possible. As for software, I use WAVES Restoration bundle, which is pretty pro stuff! But good to get rid of 60hz hum, white and pink noise and such. Now you said 1 question - and I see #2 Optical is the only one that drags BPM's around, and it can very well be just MY configuration? The 808 keeps steady regardless, but other MIDI gear like a Yamaha FX550 that looks for a 'constant' MIDI clock really suffer. But then the FX550 is like 15 years old, and was intended to be driven by a beat box. Pretty well every MIDI connection will have drift/delay these days, and most gear has 'error compensation' installed to keep things tight. The 808, you may see the BPM move slightly - is really rock solid! And the UW500 is really flexable in being 'analog', or 'digital', and 'syncable'. The only other unit that looks good is Edirols latest and M-Audio's Firewire 410 - that's a freakin' SCHIZNIT! But the UW500 is pretty stealthy still. from IP address 64.228.51.53 |
Many thanks ...by AtlantaMany thanks for the help man. I purchased the M-Audio Firewire 410 yesterday … I have a good felling about it. Peace. from IP address 129.33.49.251 |
So DOPE! Let us know how you like it!by John WestwoodDidn't mean to twist your arm so hard! Best of luck! from IP address 216.209.209.56 |
roland sp808ex conpared to the roland A-6??byI was wondering what the consensus is about using the A-6 instead of sp808ex? I'm thinking about buying an A-6 just because of its huge memory capacity and all the options it has of hooking up to a computer and all of that. If someone could please give me advice that would be great! from IP address 67.168.192.200 |
HaHaHaHaHaHa.............................by re:Verb........uh uh ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...........I just can't believe this is still going on. I wonder if some of the ol' skoolers couldn't just automatically post a message every month referring to new users and archive reading? Maybe that would help with the redundancy? "..get it togetha'" ....eh eh ah ha ha ha ha ha........... from IP address 66.255.139.146 |
Re: HaHaHaHaHaHa.............................by kamarohahaha...time from IP address 81.250.16.32 |
beat matchingby Dj_KoKHi. I've had an 808ex for about 3 months now. I LOVE the thing. it's hours and hours of endless fun. anyways. i've got a lot of stuff sampled, and a lot of it is all at different speeds. i'm trying to "beat match" samples, so they flow well together. Sometimes i get the "out of range" error, and the times it DOES match, it usually sounds like crap. could you guys help me ouy/ give me tips or pointers, on how to properly do a beat match. I've read the manual, but well, it's a roland manual, and like most others, not very helpful..thanks.. from IP address 12.222.131.49 |
Re: beat matchingby dnarkSometimes the problem is that the length of the samples need to be tweaked at one end of the other -- and sometimes you can only do it by ear once you get down into the really tiny increments. Also, the SP doesn't reallyl nail a tempo precisely, so to speak, when you stretch or adjust -- it can slide over .01 or something and not really tell you. ACID does something similar but is a little more consistent if the samples are close. Maybe someone else has some other suggestions -- from IP address 68.154.56.40 |
beat matchingby DJ kokSo, does anyone out there have any suggestions for free and or cheap software or hardware that does GOOD temp matching ? I'm a poor college kid and afford to spend a TON on fancy hardware. I'm still pratically broke from teh 808. but man, it's worth it.. from IP address 12.222.131.49 |
Howdy Ho Everyone - Back From the 7 Seas!by John WestwoodOh man, it's so late now - and I'm bushed. But just to let the ol' croanies like dnark and knobtwister and the rest of the gang that I'm alive and well. Well - not 'well', more like unemployed. Anyhoo, been making lots of music - and of course, my trusty 808 is right at my side! I have to grab some shut eye now, but I'll be back rise and shine tommorrow to catch up on all these posts! from IP address 64.228.51.92 |
Re: Howdy Ho Everyone - Back From the 7 Seas!by dnarkHey Steve: Welcome back; actually, you haven't missed much. Very, very sleepy list, but that happens. Probably inevitable. Pbass has ended up here: http://www.cordovanmusic.com/ Emailed him a couple of times. Some really nice stuff. A couple of his earlier CDs are available at emusic.com. An Ottawa band has inquired about me remixing a couple of downtempo tunes -- classic-rock type stuff; would be a challenge. Thought about rattling Fax's cage -- maybe you'd be interested as well. ? Bummer about being unemployed. Man, where do you start? dnark from IP address 68.154.56.40 |
Thanks Bud! :)by John WestwoodCool! Yeah, I see the 'pop ups' are still as strong as ever here. GG, Fred, Sean the Robot, and those folks - did they all drop off? But still truckin' with my 808! It's so much easier than cutting and pasting in some 'software studio' - just fire up those pads and jam them baby! The 808.WAV convertor is a big FREAKIN drag! At first I thought 'Okay - don't ever defrag on a PC. That's what causes the 'Disk Full' message'. Then feed it a freshly formated Zip disk from the 808, and that seemed to cure it, but then 'Disk Full' comes back for no apparent reason? Delete, reinstall, delete, stick the icon right into Adaptec's folder, or outside in the C: drive - sometimes the little bugger works, many times it doesn't. Just checked out Rolands Vari-OS as well - guess what? The dude at the music store couldn't make it work, and thus no 'demo'. Surprise, surprise. ROLAND - stick to 'Hardware', huh? But other than that, just 'cold illin' and jammin' when I can. from IP address 64.228.51.109 |
VOX never Drops.byNice to hear from you! I never actually "dropped", just went into hibernation-lurk mode. I just recently re-listened to all the SUNsongs the other week - still impressed! Most recently I have been toying with Cubase SX by Steinberg. QUITE the learning curve on that little sucker. And a can of Raid won't help the bugs. But what potential! I used it to remix "Angel" from SSI. Actually had the guts to add some vocals! VOX from IP address 24.47.110.173 |
The Voxter Rocks!by John WestwoodHeya Buddy - long time no see! I'm livin' LARGE on Orion Platinum, and sadly - the 808 has taken a bit of a back seat to it. But when it comes to jammin' loops and get ideas going - it's still DA BOMB! The world of 'soft synths' is just scary. It seemed like yesterday I was spending $4000.00 for a EX5 and all it's 'options'. Now, I buy a Computer Music mag for $15.00 and get 3 full soft synths, 250 Samples, and a VST effect plug or two? Just insane! But I think it's safe to say I'm 'full up' now. Motif's, Neurons, Ions, Fantoms - naaaaaah! Good to see you again! from IP address 64.228.51.53 |
VOX has goodies for sale!byI am going CUBASE! Still keeping the 808, but the following are on E-Bay: KORG ELECTRIBE EM-1 ROLAND MC-307 ROLAND VP-9000 VARIPHRASE ELECTRIX MOFX ELECTRIX FILTER FACTORY and (Not on eBay); YAMAHA EX5 eBay user name is "ultraphd" e-mail if interested. VOX from IP address 24.47.110.173 |
The SUN does rise :)by gOgIverNice to hear you still enjoy SUN Songs. That was sooo cool doing them. gOgIver from IP address 65.58.162.100 |
Recording Help ...by Fat TuesdayI have a bunch of hardware I use to make music (SP 808, Korg N5EX, ER1, EA1 etc...) I'm ready to start interfacing this stuff with my computer to record. Can someone exlain what I need ? Sequencing/recording software ? Do I need a plug in like an Echo box or an Aardvark ? Thanks in advance of any help ! from IP address 129.33.49.251 |
xlr expansion boardbyanyone know where i can buy the expansion board that has xlr inputs and outputs for the 808? please email me your feedback. thanks in advance james. from IP address 64.107.133.125 |
808 Video ManualbyI just recived the video and Permission to make a few copies of the video and distribute them at cost and shipping of the tape or dvd so if your interested mail me back!!!! Thanks from IP address 12.220.16.216 |
Nice! SP808 on DVD!by John WestwoodCool Brian! So if you put this on DVD, will it cue to the same times that Roland had marked the chapters on the video? That certainly would be much better than FF/RW the VCR to 20:48 or 52:12 etc. Sweet! from IP address 216.209.209.56 |
sp 808byi am interested in the sp-808 video from IP address 68.20.180.51 |
sp 808byHi I would like a copy of the sp-808 video manuel please let me know what i have to do. from IP address 24.14.126.89 |
Video ManualbyDid you ever get a copy I am desperatly looking as well. Please HELP SideShow003@hotmail.com Thanks Ed from IP address 168.158.226.140 |
sp 808byHi I would like a copy of the sp-808 video manuel please let me know what i have to do. from IP address 24.14.126.89 |
Video ManualbyCan I still get a copy of the Video, just let me know if there are any cost invloved. Please Help I ve been searching forever. Ed Rose from IP address 168.158.226.140 |
where would i get my zip drive upgraded?by staticambiencei need a lot more room in my sp-808, where would i go to get like a 750mb zip drive installed in it? and about how much would that cost? from IP address 216.255.204.153 |
Re: where would i get my zip drive upgraded?by dnarkI'm unsure why you would go anywhere to have it done when it's so easy to do yourself. The Files section of the Yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SP-808USERS/ contains step-by-step instructions. Find the best price on a new Zip drive here http://www.pricewatch.com/ Good luck. from IP address 65.80.59.242 |
D-Beam and new userbySP-808EX version 1.0 When i use the D-Beam controller for FX... I woud like to have the effects value (Dry/wet) go from 0% to 100% depending on movements... But it always resets itself at a low value of 50%..... basically, for a reverb i would like the FX to be 100% dry until i move my hand across the D Beam. But as i said, it always resets to a default value of 50% wet/dry.... help? I have had this unit for about 3 hours, and i get the basics, but theres a few things i need help with.... but damn. this is about the sexiest machine i have ever had the pleasure of working with. it looks good in the light, and even better in the dark. beautiful. from IP address 209.86.252.141 |
I need Aux Out HELP!!!!!byWhat or how do I use the Aux Out??? Is this a second output. I have a mac and would like to send the samples to Protools. I would also like to be able to send an output to my mixer for the main speakers?? Is this possible.. Also I have op/1? I think.. It has the digital in outs and track outputs.. What the hell are these???? I get the digital to work ok.. But what are the track outs and the aux outs???? Thanks evryone and anyone!! Matt from IP address 66.166.20.82 |
using digital optic and rca interfaces b/w digi 001 and sp808byhi guys, hoping someone can help im trying to get protools / digi 001 talking with an sp 808. via the expansion board. the sp808 doesnt seem to find any input to sync with even when im directing and output from a protools track into it. i am wondering whether i have to first manually sync the devices in any way? perhaps i have to set up MTC or something first. im pretty new to midi so any help would be fantastic thanks from IP address 203.63.133.138 |
See if this helps?by John WestwoodI currently use optical to my UW500, and coax (rca) to my oooooold DAT machine. Go to SYSTEM/DISK button and select SET SYSTEM PARAM? in the menu. INPUT SOURCE should be DIGI 1 is your RCA/coax, and DIGI 2 is your optical. Select, and you're set! from IP address 216.209.209.56 |
recodr b effects ?by dr.JencHei guys Please, is there any way how to record b effects as filter, isolator and d-beam pitch ? Thanks for your tips. from IP address 24.45.218.216 |
aux outbyI'm sure this is a stupid question, but what are the aux out's for? and also I also have an expansion card thing???? it has digtal in/out ( i know these) and track outs??? What exactly are those?? I guess that was two! Thanks matt P.S. how would I utilize it??? somone pleeeeeeeeeezse help me from IP address 12.236.81.1 |
New SP User needs help with mac and SPbyHi, i just got an SP808 from a friend, so far this thing is great, but I have 2 questions 1st i see the link posted on the main page for the OS is dead, i managed to get the OS off of roland but how do i format a zip disk so i can update? i mean where do i put what files? 2nd I am on a Mac runnin OS X and my zip's are recognized, but i was wondering if i could take samples directly of off my computer and put them on a zip without having to record them to the 808? thanx from IP address 199.95.32.10 |
How to organize songs in SP808-EX?byHi, Do you know how to organize songs in the SP808-EX? Because in a live set of more than 30 songs, it's hard to find a song soon. I would like to create a sort of playlist. Can you help me please? from IP address 194.51.20.124 |
need to locate zip disc with o/s of ex WILL PAY CASHbyI HAVE BEEN TRYING TO LAY MY HANDS ON A ZIP DISC WITH THE O/S OF THE ROLAND SP 808 EX IF YOU OWN AN EX IT WILL TAKE YOU LITERALLY 2 MINUTES TO DO I WILL PAY FOR DISC POSTAGE AND YOUR TIME CAN SOMEONE HELP ME OUT I NEED THAT UPGRADE. THANX from IP address 194.6.79.200 |
Re: need to locate zip disc with o/s of ex WILL PAY CASHby dnarkWhy don't you just upgrade through MIDI? Then someone can just email the OS to you. from IP address 67.33.99.17 |
heyby omaybe so he doesnt have to buy midi thing for his computer, cuz they'ed cost about the same or more and when hes done he can erase the data and still have a disk, atleast i think you can erase the stuff on the disk but i could do it for you i upgrade with midi, and since midi confuses me ill never use my stuff, so what your asking makes sense if your like me dont know how you'de wanna do it tho you say you would pay? um, either you could send me a disk with an extra mailer, you could have it allready with postage, have it weighed with a disk and all so you know its right, then i could send you a disk with the ex os saved to it if that works ill give you my address from IP address 208.40.139.16 |
os of exbythanx for responding to my request for the o/s of an ex please e-mail me at nubroon@aol.com withyour address and i,ll get a disc off to you with cash to cover return postage cheers phil from IP address 194.6.79.200 |
How does one copy the OS to Zip?byIs the OS on the demo disk? Do you have to boot the SP while holding other buttons, like MIDI update but in reverse? from IP address 203.166.102.188 |
How do you use the Vocorder W/O dmeo disk?byI bought a SP808ex but did not have a manual or demo disk with it. Does anyone know how to utilize the vocorder in a simple discription?? from IP address 64.252.251.81 |
Re: How do you use the Vocorder W/O dmeo disk?by dnarkLook up about 5 or 6 messages for a tutorial. If you go back in the archives here (and go back a long way), you'll find some quite detailed instructions on using it. from IP address 68.19.14.148 |
archival stuff on vocoder useby dnarkWildStYle's ----> How to use the Vocoder there are 4 ways to use the vocoder patch: 1. mic =source, line in= modulator 2. pad=source, pad=modulator 3. mic=source, pad= modulator 4. mic=source, track audio modulator here are the instructions for each method. 1. mic =source, line in= modulator - note: only audio on the (Right) side of the line input is used for modulation. - im not sure but, i believe the left input can be used as a source instead of the mic. - anyway, talk into mic while playing synth into line input. Done. 2. pad=source, pad=modulator - "shift" + " mix common" - scroll to FxLoc. change to (INS MASTER) - "shift" + "track A effects button" change track A balance to ( L63 ). - "shift" + "track B effects button" change track B balance to ( R63 ). - "shift" + "song/track" this activates the pad to track option - press and hold a pad in first row (pad 1,5,9,13) - press a pad in row two (pads 2,6,10,14) Done. 3. mic=source, pad= modulator - press "shift" + " mix common" - scroll to FxLoc. change to (INS MASTER) - press "shift" + "MIC/LINE" effects button, set balance to L63 - scroll further down to Pad balance, set to R63 - talk into mic while holding down a pad Done. 4. mic=source, track audio modulator - press "shift" + " mix common" - scroll to FxLoc, change to (INS MASTER) - press "shift" + "MIC/LINE" effects button, set balance to L63 - press "shift" + "track A effects button" change track A balance to ( R63 ). - make sure status is enabled (green light) for track A - playback track while talking into mic. Done. ********************* First off, I think you need to understand what a vocoder effect is supposed to do. If you've heard some of those old school songs (and many new) where it sounds like a synthesizer is saying words, that's a vocoder effect. You play the synth and sing or speak as if backing the synth part. Like a wah pedal, you can get some speach type effects. The melody of the vocoder will depend upon the synth part, and the loudness and modulation will come from the vocals. If you are wanting to hear more of the unaffected vocals, hit shift+FX info with the Vocoder effect activated, then cursor over to VOC in the chain of effects, hit ENTER, and scroll down till you see MICMIX Level. Here you can adjust for more or less actual vocals. To get a more defined vocoder effect with a synth, use a synth pad that sustains as you hold down the key, and play single note melodies that aren't complicated. Single along with this melody, and you'll get more vocoder action when dramatically pronouncing your words. from IP address 68.19.14.148 |
2 808's + more playing live @ the derby (los feliz, ca)by8/26 $5 cover, doors open @ 8:30 the derby 4500 los feliz blvd. los feliz, CA the_send_effect kittens for christian exitmusique spacey cakes hope to see you there. from IP address 66.215.8.71 |
broken 808by ogar anyone else have the problem that any of the buttons stop working like the shift button that you need do use the 4 track used to just be able to blow on it to fix it, but now that dont work and i messed it up a little not too bad tho, from pushing on it too hard what a dumb idea to make 1 button conrtol half the machine from IP address 208.40.140.140 |
Wave converter doesn't work !!byI got an ide iomega 100 zipdrive in my computer, and I want to make some loops and save them with sp808 waveconverter to use it in the SP-808. But the proggy doesn't work. While the zipdrive can save other wav-files but not thru the waveconverter program.. I formatted the disks (full & quick) but the program still won't regognize the disk... PLEASE HELP !!! Thanx to you all !! from IP address 81.69.127.173 |
Re: Wave converter doesn't work !!by dnarkTry the following: If you are running XP or a similar version: -> Find the SP conversion program icon (not a shortcut, the original program icon wherever the program is stored on your hard drive), -> right click on it, -> click on properties, -> click on compatibility, -> enter the settings below > compatibility mode: "Run this program in compatibility mode for Windows 2000" [you can also try 98, I suppose); > display settings: disable visual themes I didn't have the following option, but you may: > input settings: turn off advanced text services for > this program THIS MAY NOT WORK FOR EVERYONE; DEPENDS ON YOUR COMPUTER SETUP. There's also the possibility that you need to record something (anything, even air) onto one of the pads on your SP Zip disk in order for the program to recognize it in your computer drive. No one knows why later version of the conversion program can't recognize an empty SP Zip disk, so try it and see what happens. Good luck. from IP address 67.33.98.11 |
SP-808EX Vocoder.... Teach me, oh wise onesbyOkay. Good site. I've learned a lot. I upgraded my 808 to the 808EX OS, and I'm not sure I understand how to use the Vocoder features. Any tips, clues, or advice would be very appreciated, and I could start making vocal tracks sound like robo-JLo. Okay... Bad idea... But still, I searched the site and can't effectively use the vocoder. Thanks. La Mer. from IP address 66.43.234.15 |
vocoderby knobtcheck back to a post on this forum from Dan on Jun 24, 2002, 1:46 PM. it has some excellent ideas. i can only take credit for remembering it! from IP address 165.76.17.3 |
VoCodEr TutoRiALby WildStYleI never thought a would be posting this again. i made this tutorial a loooong time ago to benifit folks using the origunal sp-808 with e-mix software. so once again .... Vocoder help there are 4 ways to use the vocoder patch: 1. mic =source, line in= modulator 2. pad=source, pad=modulator 3. mic=source, pad= modulator 4. mic=source, track audio modulator here are the instructions for each method. 1. mic =source, line in= modulator - note: only audio on the (Right) side of the line input is used for modulation. - im not sure but, i believe the left input can be used as a source instead of the mic. - anyway, talk into mic while playing synth into line input. Done. 2. pad=source, pad=modulator - "shift" + " mix common" - scroll to FxLoc. change to (INS MASTER) - "shift" + "track A effects button" change track A balance to L63. - "shift" + "track B effects button" change track B balance to R63. - "shift" + "song/track" this activates the pad to track option - press and hold a pad in first row (pad 1,5,9,13) - press a pad in row two (pads 2,6,10,14) Done. 3. mic=source, pad= modulator - press "shift" + " mix common" - scroll to FxLoc. change to (INS MASTER) - press "shift" + "MIC/LINE" effects button, set balance to L63 - scroll further down to Pad balance, set to R63 - talk into mic while holding down a pad Done. 4. mic=source, track audio modulator - press "shift" + " mix common" - scroll to FxLoc, change to (INS MASTER) - press "shift" + "MIC/LINE" effects button, set balance to L63 - press "shift" + "track A effects button" change track A balance to R63. - make sure status is enabled (green light) for track A - playback track while talking into mic. Done. -WildStYle from IP address 137.148.229.78 |
Knobtwister Can you Drop me an e.mail PLEASE ;-).....byI accidentally erased my e.mail address book D'oh . Anyway I've got the AW16G which is fanatstic. That said I miss my lil' candy raver 808EX and am wanting to get two unit's in excellent condition second hand . Japan seems like bargain central for these. Besides which I won't pay duties on second hand goods. Would consider to EX'd black mantis 808's (even with 100 meg drives if the condition is excellent). Just can't seem to live without an SP808 in my studio arsenal . I miss the damn thing so much. Getting an Emu MP-7 preloaded with the new OS2.0 ,beatgarden ,xl-7 ,px-drums and vintage synth roms. Keeping my Micro Q ,Elevata ,DX etc etc but will get rid of the RS7000 when I can get my mitt's on some 808's again. If you can help me out please let me know. DEMO work is sort of stagnatting without them. Silly I know but certain compsitional approcahes ala' musiq concrete etc etc are done with pure class and ease on an 808. Thanks in advance mate. Good to see you're still round these parts. PS: Hi Dnark how's it goin Nice too see at least 2 old faithfuls around these parts. You never know the true value of these babies until you actually part with one Any one wanna do a trade in OZ for an RS7000 mint condition ,64 meg ram , OS 1.21 ,sm cards and readwriter , all utilites ,disks etc etc give me a holla from IP address 61.9.128.172 |
now i got 2 808s. life is goodby knobtpicked up my 2nd 808 yesterday 30 ooo yen a classic, still on vers1 os and 100mb drive but with op1. then i walked over the road and bought a 750mb zip drive. got vers2 os on a zipdisk somewhere in the pile... now ive got 3 sets of 808 manuals in japanese anybody want? hey OSCar older and louder i trust? from IP address 165.76.17.3 |
SYSTEM FREEZINGbyContacted Roland for support but got no help.Anyway,when trying to record to tracks or sampling system freezes and refuses to eject disc.Replaced drive but got same results,could it be the disc?(I've tried 4 already)Did internal check and the SCSI read error but I don't have any external connections.Can anyone help me out? from IP address 68.10.34.52 |
re:system freezingbyi had the same problem, in my case, it was the disk. i always make a backup of my work (or the stuff i deem worthy enough) because i'm always afraid a zip will start going bonkers on me. in my instance, i put the zip disk in the 808, and it made a clicking noise (click of death) and kept making it. i tried some other disks, and realized it was the disk not the drive (i thought it was the drive at first). i had just backuped the disk a week earlier, so i wasn't too distraught. hope this helps. from IP address 66.215.8.71 |
Thanx but....byThanx for the info but before I even read this insite I'd already purchased new zips.That did it and now the panic is over, my new delima is finding a reasonbly priced sp op-1.Since the price of the unit itself dropped in half since I purchased, paying more than $125-$150 for the expansion would be crazy. from IP address 68.10.34.52 |
forum is dead ...by WildStYleAll the masters have gone or they dont post. The final blow was the departure of john westwood. he was this forums life blood. you could always join the yahoo forum. its the best sp-808 forum now. back in the day, the yahoo forum was always two steps behind this one, everything happened here first. the end of a era. -WildStYle from IP address 137.148.229.163 |
Keep your chin up dude - re: forum is deadby OSCar{FaX}Once I get my mitts on a pair of these again you'll have another old skooler back in the ranks. 100% guaranteed Yep John ,Dnark ,KnobTwister ,Vox ,TVBand ,GorgeousGirl,Rob Vinning and anyone else I've forgotten gave this forum a real sense of purpose. Ahhh the smell of sweet sweet nostalgia . from IP address 61.9.128.172 |
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