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606/808by kamarois there anybody who's got sp606 it will be interesting to replace the drive of the 808 by the 606 one.... from IP address 217.109.162.173 |
wav converter and mono/stereobyhello from Lille (France), i try to feed my sp808ex using wav converter. on my pc i have a stereo sample. i put it on a zip using converter. using converter, i listen to it an it is stereo. i put the zip in my sampler. the sample is mono. anyone got an idea? thx. from IP address 213.244.21.170 |
Considering buying a SP808. Need a couple of q's answered.. :-)by Angel QuakeHi I'm looking to buy an 808 for live use. I already use an RS7000 for the bulk of my work, but there are a couple of issues with it that maybe the 808 can cover. 1. If I sample something from the RS7000 live, how hard and fast is it to get that sample playing as a loop in time with it? 2. If I'm playing the RS7k sequencer at 130bpm and I knock it up to 135bpm, will the loops playing on the 808 follow suite? Basically, if it can sort of fulfill those requirements, I will get it. If not, well, I guess it will have to be a Red Sound C-Loops or something. Thanks Trefor from IP address 62.254.0.16 |
rs7000&808by knobthi i have no experience of the rs7000. but i will try to answer your questions 1 - you can set the 808 to auto-trim, so any silent parts at the start and finish of a sample are edited out. you can then trim up the sample manually to the desired bpm or use the stretch function to set your desired speed. and hope you don't get a click on the loop point, doesn't always happen but it can - easy enough to edit out. the stretch function takes doesn't take too long, naturally it depends on the length of your sample. once you know the machine you can work very quickly. i imagine there are better dj tools more suited to sampling on the fly. 2 - afaik, you can set the 808s midi clock to slave and change the bpm from other devices. ive never done this as my 808 is always the boss. the manual indicates it's ok tho. anybody tried it? from IP address 165.76.17.3 |
tant pisbyi just got my hands on an rs7000... as per your questions...sampling the rs7000's (or anything for that matter) output while playing live...i assume you'll need like a minute or more (depending on how fast you are) to get your sample out of the 808 playing in sync. you have to hit "sample start" on the sp-808, so depending on your sound source, the auto trim might work, but if there's no dead space, you'll have to hope and hit the button at the right time. you can hit "mute" on the sp-808 while you trim the sample to kill the output and check w/ headphones whether you've got everything right. as per the sp-808 slaving its pad loops to midi...according to the "tips and tricks manual" on the yahoo group page, the sp-808 can't do this. the pads will play at whatever bpm they've been set at, regardless of the incoming MTC. for more info, search "tips and tricks" at the yahoo users group. Cheers from IP address 24.226.10.99 |
MIDI connection FailsbyHi there......... I'm trying to connect my Sp-808 to a Yamaha DTXpress Drum Module........ so I can play some samples trough my drum pads. I've connected them with a MIDI cable.........MIDI OUT of DTX Module to MIDI IN of the black box.........and nothing happened........ I've changed some settings...and nothing......I happend to have a Yamaha Synth....... and as I was bored trying to trigger some samples from the Sp-808 having no result at all........I started toying with my Synth.......so I played some sounds of the Synth with my Pads......I ¡ve connected MIDI Out of Drum Module to MIDI in of Synth....after a while I added anothrt MIDI cable from MIDI Trough of the Synth to MIDI IN of SAMPLER..........and.......it worked....... I don¡t know what a hell happened.....but it worked.......... My question is.........does anybody experienced something like this?? If yes or not........does anybody knows how to eliminate the Synth from this chain, beacause its pretty anoying to carry a Synth just to use the MIDI Trough connection tp perform live........... Thanx in advance. Alex  from IP address 200.117.194.149 |
Hmmmmm.by John WestwoodNot to familiar with the DTX, but by all means it should work just as you had set up. The only thing is the SP-808 defaults to note C1 on it's pad bank, and possibly your DTX is on note C3 as a 'bass key' so to speak. Try and shift your pad banks up and around (refer to manual) to C3 and see if your DTX will trigger the pads that way then? Very strange problem indeed. Keep us posted. from IP address 64.228.51.100 |
sh-32+sp808by hey guys. i got a problem contoling the tempo.. common thing i just cant figure out what im missing, i want to contorl my sh-32's clock with the 808, and then play some apreggio patterns but i cant seem to get it to work , ive tried most of the basics , also it says that when creating the apreggos you can have pitch controll ,, cant do that either.. if anybody can help ... please do thanks ps, i know this is a 808 site but ive always gotten good advice from here back in the day.. remember sunsongs??? man that was a long time ago peace shawn from IP address 64.180.144.56 |
maybe?bySince the SH-32 has it's own "sort of keyboard", maybe the midi parameters has a switch for REMOTE keyboard ON,OFF. My JX-305 has this and when I switch it to ON, the 808 pads will trigger the arpeggiator. When the switch is OFF, the notes will play, but the arpeggiator does not play back. Check all the midi paramters for something like a REMOTE KEYBOARD switch. Kenny from IP address 67.11.243.55 |
sh32by knobthi shawn yep, i still have my sunsongs. also have a sh32, tho its been stuffed behind my couch for the last year or so. did u go thru 'system' - button5 'clock' - choose midi (looks like an upside-down capital 'U' followed by 'id'. roland script - should be std. on all pooters. also if the 808 clock is not running or sending, the sh32 won't make a sound. cheers andrew from IP address 165.76.17.3 |
The Knobs and Robotsby John WestwoodHeya Shawn - weren't you going by the handle ROBOT on the Sun Songs? I've still got mine too, or did they get behind Knobtwisters couch with his SH-32 as well? But Sir Knobs is right - make sure your SH-32 is set to EXTERNAL Clock if you can? Or set SP-808 to EXTERNAL in Set Song Parameters and go that way? Still out in Van Land? from IP address 64.228.51.185 |
yahbyhey Steve West! yeah ive tried everything but i cant get the dam 32 work right.. oh well yeah im still out in Van city.. havent been using the music boxes much these days. but ive been thinkin about gettin a turntavle to learn how to scratch and use the 808 to put effects on the scratching.. i think that would be pretty cool .. 808 and a turntable might be a good pair. also ive come across a neat thing for gameboy called Nanoloop.. look it up! cheers...... the robot! from IP address 207.6.30.24 |
Good to see you spinning!by Steven WestA good box to have if you're into DJ stuff is a Yamaha SU10. Gotta be like $50 used? But you can run audio through it - CD, Turntable, tape deck - anything! And scratch it in realtime using the SU10 Ribbon. You can also do pretty wild filter effects and other stuff. As a sampler - it kinda bites compared to the trusty 808's. But as a little mucker box, it's got some narly features to it to this day! (Don't even think the SU200 can do this - and it only has MIDI IN as well.) Take care bro. Jam the noise, and make the sound!  from IP address 64.228.51.182 |
Swapping ZIP drive for hard disk?by NickPossible? Anyone here done it? from IP address 210.50.217.230 |
nopebybeen discussed to death. from IP address 67.11.243.55 |
Upgrading 100mb zip drive to 250mb zip drive for non-exbyHas anyone upgraded their sp808(first version) from the 100mb zip drive to the 250mb zip drive? My 808 won't spit out the zip disk anymore and I'm wanting to replace it with the 250mb zip drive but manual says nothing about it....any information or suggestions would be exremely helpful and appreciated. Thanks -David from IP address 63.230.163.65 |
straightforwardby knobtgo for it, easy job, took me 20 minutes. ive updated two classics, the first i updated the zipdrive before the OS, it worked fine. somewhere around is a step by step guide on how to do it. just do a search. main points are get an 'atapi' 250mb drive (iomega seem very good) and set the jumper to the correct postion on the back of the zip case (use the old 100mb drive as a guide). you don't need any special tools, other than a phillips head screwdriver and a beer or 3. @ from IP address 165.76.17.3 |
swapping drives instructionsby dnarkCHANGING OUT THE 100MB ZIP DRIVE FOR A 250MB ZIP DRIVE ON THE SP-808 FIRST READ THE SECTIONS IN ALL-CAPS TO FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH THE PROCEDURES YOU WILL BE PERFORMING AND WHAT ORDER YOU WILL BE PERFORMING THEM. Only use an internal IDE/ATAPI Zip drive in the SP808. Obviously: Disconnect the power supply and all other cables from the SP. Observe the usual precautions about electrostatic etc. As you disassemble the SP, keep the screws in three separate piles as you remove them. Prepare places beforehand for all three sets so you don't lose them or get them mixed up. Turn the SP over and rest it on something soft and pliable, like several towels, so that the knobs on the panel are not subject to unnecessary pressure. (1) REMOVE ALL THE SCREWS IN THIS ORDER: (A) REMOVING THE SP'S BOTTOM PLATE: Remove the 13 screws on the bottom of the SP. Do not remove the two screws in recessed holes at the top; these can stay put. Don't forget the interior screw just above the middle rubber foot at the bottom. Note that not all holes have screws in them (at least on my unit). Lift off the bottom plate; it should slip off easily. Put it aside in a position allowing you to remember which way it fits. (B) REMOVING THE ZIP-DRIVE HOUSING/FRAME FROM THE INSIDE OF THE SP: [I found it easier to remove the power cable and ribbon cable from the old Zip drive itself if I first removed the screws holding the Zip-drive housing/frame to the inside of the SP; it's just easier to get a grip on the cables.] Remove the 5 screws attaching the drive housing/frame to the inside of the SP (2 on the right, 3 on the left; the screw on the upper left is a little hard to get to if you don't have small fingers. When you've removed these screws, the housing/frame still won't come out all the way because the cables are still attached to the Zip drive inside it. (C) REMOVING THE ZIP DRIVE ITSELF FROM THE DRIVE HOUSING/FRAME: The Zip drive itself is attached to the drive housing/frame with 4 screws, all on the top of the housing. Remove these screws and put them aside. The Zip drive will now be loose, but because it still has its two cables attached, you can't lift the Zip drive all the way out. (2) REMOVE THE TWO CABLES CONNECTING THE OLD 100 DRIVE WITH THE SP INNARDS: (A) THE POWER CABLE (You will want to reattach it to the 250 drive the same way it was attached to the 100, so leave it in a position that makes that easy to remember.) (B) THE RIBBON CONNECTOR (Same as above, though the fit inside the SP is so tight, this connector will remain pretty much in the same position.) (3) REMOVE THE OLD 100 DRIVE FROM THE DRIVE HOUSING. ********************************************************************** (4) SETTING THE 250 DRIVE TO MASTER Put the two drives side-by-side for comparison and install the jumper/shunt into the 250 drive to set it to Master just the way it is already installed in the 100 drive. The drive comes from the factory set to slave. On the back of the Zip drive, between the ribbon-cable port and the power-cable port, there are three rows of two pins each. If the Zip drive is lying on its back, the power-cable port will be on your left, and the ribbon-cable port will be on your right. The three rows of two pins each will be between those two ports. You'll see that the first row of two pins on the left is covered by a little jumper/shunt. This jumper should have come with your 250 Zip IDE drive (mine came in a little ziplock plastic bag). If you're unsure, you can hold the jumper/shunt up to the one on the back of the 100 drive you just removed to see how it will fit onto the two left-hand pins on the back of the 250. Slip it onto the two left-hand pins on the back of the 250 to cover them. Press firmly till it is seated. This sets the Zip drive to Master. The backs of the two drives should now look the same. ********************************************************************** Now the whole process is exactly reversed: (5) SLIP THE NEW 250 DRIVE INTO THE DRIVE HOUSING/FRAME WITH THE CABLE PORTS TO THE BACK. (6) RECONNECT THE TWO CABLES TO CONNECT THE NEW 250 DRIVE WITH THE SP INNARDS (a bit easier in the following order): (a) the ribbon connector (b) the power cable (7) SCREW ALL THE SCREWS BACK IN (IN THIS ORDER): (a) TO SECURE THE ZIP DRIVE ITSELF TO THE DRIVE HOUSING (4 screws on the top of the housing) (b) TO SECURE THE ZIP DRIVE HOUSING TO THE INSIDE OF THE SP (5 screws on the bottom, 3 on the left, 2 on the right) (c) TO SECURE THE SP'S BOTTOM PLATE BACK TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SP (13 screws; the one with the washer goes at the top left) from IP address 68.215.166.120 |
Hell yea..!byi got one and yo,at frist i was kinda if'y about it ....but i need the extra space since my needs were turning into on demand samples,for on stage apps.so i looked up a computer repair shop refered to me from the local music shop...it took two trys to get the right zip to work but, it worked..but..1.it didnt play any of the old zips before the new drive.2.IMPORTANT:for best best results download the sp-808ex update!!3.if u followed 1 and 2..u should be good!i got so much space now it's sick!i run my ry30 through it and still have enough space for longer samples,new effects(mic and in line effects!),and the space to track it all.so in all,u bet your ass it's worth it. DJ KID KAOS www.face4radio.com from IP address 68.106.135.100 |
SP808 Video Manual on Ebay CHEAP!by lindsayfrom IP address 24.126.240.80 |
Video Owners Manual on Ebaybyfrom IP address 67.11.243.55 |
hello and important questionby kamarofirst of all i finally keep my beloved 808...i love it so much...so i can't make the step to sell it.. this week a guy in a french forum tell me that roland modify the zip drive in the sp808 to make it faster...and he says that internal atapi drive doesn't work on his machine... the difference between me and him is that he bought a legal 250 EX upgrade at roland france... he says that he must directly change the card on the zip drive and take the one on the 250 drive sell with his upgrade, someone can clarify that? from IP address 80.14.82.27 |
hmm...bySounds suspicious to me. I'm not sure how Roland could have "modified" a zip drive. Many 808 users have upgraded their 100mb to 250mb (and some have added the zip 750). I have not heard of one being any faster than the other. If you have the original black 808, you should have the same performance with the EX operating system and the 250 zip. Kenny from IP address 67.11.243.55 |
i am totally agree with youby kamarobut i prefer talk to you about this issue...the guy is totally sure about couldn't using a classic zip drive... he says that when he bought a iomega drive he just couldn't using it..drive too busy and other... but when he bought a 250 zip drive at roland, he says that they wasn't the same (the card on it) and he have no problem after... i am using a classic internal iomega 250 zip drive and have no problem (just that zip medias isn't really reliable...) and make the jump for friends without any problem... roland france have sold him drive for 410 € !!!!!!!! he make the changing of card beetween the two drives himself, and make me read the email from roland... from IP address 80.15.51.149 |
others...byOthers have had problems with different zip disks as well. I don't use the wav converter software anymore (which is where some of the problems are showing up I think. I've also never had a disk go bad on me, but admittedly I've been easy on the machine - no live gigs, no slamming disks in and out between sets, etc. (I'm crossing my fingers now that I said that) Hard to imagine that Roland would be able to provide something "better" than Iomega? Maybe the physical features of Iomegas have changed as time goes on, but compatibility has always been pretty stable. I'm waiting to see about this IDE zip compatible card I've been hearing about. Kenny from IP address 67.11.243.55 |
Good you're still aboard Kam!by John WestwoodShouldn't be ANY difference for Zip drives Kamaro. Most of the power differences between North America, Europe, Asia, etc. are dealt with at the 'Wall Wart' part where you plug it in. Roland's SP-808 has either a different step down transformer inside export models - but I think it's more a tiny switch in there to change 110v to 220v. And all that would be needed then is a different power cable to plug in the back of your SP-808 to the wall. But an ATAPI Zip drive will always get the same connection AND power supply inside each and every SP-808. I think Roland was using a Panasonic Zip Drive when I gutted it from my old brown bomber for a 250MB. Worked fine, but was only 100MB BTW - Are you french Kamaro? I always thought you were Asian for some reason? But good to know you're not going away now. from IP address 64.228.51.185 |
driver for wav converter >mac osx.3by Jackhi guys... was looking for to use the converter but the disc do not show up on the converter screen. Any idea ? Is there a driver needed on the osx. I am on 10.3.5. + only the pads would show up , right ? not the songs. A good stuff this 808 , no ? BTW : mine is upgraded to 808EX and have had not a single problem neither. Have fun and take care. Jack from Switzerland from IP address 194.230.219.29 |
HELP! Looking to buy SP808-OP1byLooking to buy SP808-OP1... new or used, any help will be greatly valued. Thank You kreativemail@yahoo.com from IP address 64.136.26.230 |
Sidechain FX........byHi.......... Does anybody knows if it's possible to sidechain FX.......... I have the old black box.............buy maybe updating the OS or with the new pink - transparent box you can do this............. 'Cuz it is a very powerful tool to chain FX............... Thanx in advance. Alex from IP address 200.117.194.149 |
I don't think so...byAt least not in the traditional sense. What kind of effect are you trying to achieve? from IP address 67.11.243.55 |
button basherby bufferfull just a note on buttons has any one broken a button and found out that the whole case is a one mould job ive broken 7 ...my 808 now has many little white single impulse buttons all over it first i tryed spme plastic surgery meltin pens and fusing the buttons back in place but it ony lasts so long i suppose my reale value is shot but i figure ill be luging this thing around the world till it falls apart(or i fall apART) has anyone bought a new cover and how much are they to that im nottoo intrested mine looks kinda cool now ...anyway respekt b.f from IP address 81.134.204.3 |
No more NIN concerts! :)by John WestwoodMan! 7 buttons off? I thought the 808's were pretty tough - you must be playing yours with a sledgehammer? :lol: Just got my screen fixed - stupid little cable slid out of the socket inside. However, Roland has made the 808's really 'unservicable' should you even take it to a shop. Took mine down after looking what I'd have to go through opening her up. It took my service guy an HOUR to take everything apart just to get at the back of the screen. 5 seconds to press the cable back in, and a HOUR to put Humpty back together again. And at $40 and hour...  So 7 Buttons to fix? Might as well score a second hand 808EX me thinks? from IP address 64.228.51.185 |
how doby bufferfull hi i was just reading an old post and john you mentioned marking on a track and draging it straight to the pads how do ya do that cause im still resampling it, as i play live drums it would save me at least two years of my life and i could go to the pub earlier than usual thanks....bf from IP address 81.134.204.3 |
From John's post...byTrack to pad - Highlight track with MARK (or track portion?) Hold down MARK, and press CLIP BOARD - voila! Now press and hold clipboard, and press an empty pad. It only copies phrases as far as I can tell. In other words, I don't see a way to copy to the clipboard using the region in/out markers. John? from IP address 67.11.243.55 |
You got it Kenny!by John WestwoodIt would be nice to just 'region' it like you say, but no go. If it's say a beat or something with 'dead air' between measures, I would scrub back till I heard the last ticks sound, mark, exit out and 'region' that small portion to the next measure (3-4ppq's or ticks) SHIFT+ERASE that little piece. Then scroll back just before the begining of the measure you want to snag and perform the same operation. Now you can MARK+CLIP BOARD that chunk over to a pad. from IP address 64.228.51.185 |
sp808 250 zip going badby jeremiahhey, ?'s. i own an sp808ex. referencing the tips/tricks doco on this site. the zip drive on my ex is getting worse and worse, normalizing right now is joke, system locks up ect ect ect. will the "add a 250 mb zip drive to your 808" work for just swapping out a 250 for another 250 drive? when i swap drives (old/new), will i need to update the os with zip disk? is this relevant to me, as i have a 808ex. i beleive this was for the original sp808 released in 89? If someone else has any information tips/trick for this swap out pls let me know, any advise would be much appriceated! best regards, jeremiah if anyone here is in wellington nz, sweet. if anyone here if from minneapolis, i miss that damn town!!!!!!!!!!! from IP address 202.20.0.84 |
Plug & Play!by HaydoHey man, Just remove the old drive & replace it with a new one. I recently "EXed" my old SP808, I swapped the 100 for a 250 and the machine booted no problem & straight away I had more recording time but had to update the OS for the extra features (DUH). You should have no probs swapping drives. Oh, by the way, if you see my old mate Heath in Mt.Wellington say G'day for me! from IP address 203.166.102.66 |
Re: Plug & Play!by Anonymouskewl haydo, big nod. Heath, if i see/meet him, aight. what did you and heath get up 2? you in aussie? regards, J. from IP address 202.20.0.84 |
The 808 is up and running...byIt's been gathering dust thanks to ProTools. I pulled it out and set it up again. I had forgotten just how cool this thing really is. I'm an old man now, but back when I was tracking on 4 track cassette, I would have killed to pull out an 808! All those effects and digital editing - incredible - although by today's standards it's falling behind. It's all about the music though, not the gear. So I'm gonna throw down some new 808 tunes and get the juices flowing again. Woo Hoo! P.S. I've been playing with the step modulator - it just has this cool factor - no keyboard, just good old step sequencing. peace from IP address 67.11.243.55 |
good bye everyone...by kamaroi think i gonna sell my sp this week end...and i will kept all my zip since a friend of mine got one with op1... i will probably make the jump on the mv8000...and transfer all my data on it... i am really tired of the zip problems... thanks to all of you...i really enjoyed reading some of your posts here day by day... cheers to all of you and good luck.... from IP address 81.53.247.129 |
dudebyDon't be a stranger! The MV looks like a sweet box - should take you to a new level. I've been debating myself cuz I haven't used the 808 since I got ProTools. I'm hangin on though - I haven't had any zip problems yet - I still have the original 100mb. Good luck to you! Kenny from IP address 67.11.243.55 |
best..by knobtall the best kamaro you'll kick yourself when sp808's become the most legendary sought after kit in 20 years or so (...maybe) have fun @ from IP address 165.76.17.3 |
You were great!by John WestwoodI could never part with my 808 bro, but a DJ70 MkII I had no problems letting go - so I know how you kinda feel. But a MV8000 - NICE! Just 'cause you don't have a 808 anymore doesn't mean you can't visit once and again. You're the dude that knows how to shuffle, and must share the secrets with all now before you go! Don't be a stranger. from IP address 64.228.51.185 |
A-6 UsersbyHi Music Lovers, I'm the proud owner of an A-6 Video Canvas and would like to find others who use the same machine. I've got the quick start guide, but don't have the regular owners manual. Let's discuss the A-6 and share our knowledge. If anyone knows where to obtain a manual/guide please post the info. Would an 808 manual be of use to utilize the recorder? I've got the OP-1 installed, but don't know how to access its functions. The recording quality is excellant on the A-6. If we work together, all us A-6ers will benefit. All the Best, Buck from IP address 209.223.242.52 |
rare asby knobthi Buck you are most welcome here, tho there don't seem to be many (any?)a6 owners around. what kind of music/sounds do you make with your a6? @ from IP address 165.76.17.3 |
A-6 Usersby BuckHi Knobt, I do original music, and bought the A-6 on ebay for a song (pun). There may be a few manuals available and I'll let the needy know if they come into my hands. It would be great if that happens. A couple of weeks ago I used the machine to record a fiddle player to create an instructional CD. The sound was far better than expected. My stuff ranges from blues to ballad, rockabilly to love songs, with novelty/comedy songs in the mix. I've not gotten very good sounds until the digital revolution. You can do just about anything now in the digital realm. I use MIDI and Audio to make waves and mp3s. The A-6 is the most incredible gizmo I've ever encountered. Once I get some concrete info on how to use it, I'll be able to create demos that are not just bags of noise. Do you also possess an A-6, and what kind of music are you into ? Buck from IP address 209.223.242.52 |
noizby knobthi Buck no A6 here, just two 808s. interestingly, roland produced a japanese labelled A6, but never did the same for the 808. i used to see a few A6's in akihabara's used instrument stores, the only english on them was 'roland'. they were cheap, about $100 each. haven't seen any for a few years now. my music? hmm...one review, from the sunsongs days, said it would be a good soundtrack for a s&m movie... these days i build my own analog synths and play overly long, self indulgent pieces on them. mostly i use the 808's as hard disk recorders - one has OP1 and a 750mb zip drive, so it is perfect for the task. i probably should upgrade, just waiting for the right toy (and price). if you wanna see some pix - http://home.att.ne.jp/grape/knobtwister/pinky/ andrew from IP address 165.76.17.3 |
my big problembyhi Mate. My name is Matiss and I wana know some answers. I have roland sp808ex mix studio sampler and have one but big fkn problem. Some weeks ago i was on live stage to play my music. You know what. I started to play and then drive too busy... Damn . And its not stoping. Fkn drive to busy. i was like a fkn jerk on stage. Roland just dont wanted to work. So there is my qestion is it possible to connect hard disk to this maschine.to load all information on hard disk not to this stupid zip disk shit. I dont know with scsi or with op1 or op2 card? Plese send me some kind of informatin.whatever? May be there is another way to fight with it? Would be very happy. I will send to you my tracks they are nice:)))))))))))))))))) Bye Matiss from IP address 81.198.136.173 |
how to deal with drive busybywhen creating your tracks make sure to set it to "single"and not "multi" when dropping in phrases into the multi track. also i have learned the selecting copying and pasting the phrases instead of just dropping them in one after the other cuts out on the drive access. basically what is happening is: when you record you phrases using multi it acesses the zip every time the phrase is repeated. when you use single it actually prints the phrase into the track so it is a continous acess. freeing the drive up to do real time sample triggering. also when you bounce tracks down make sure to erase the previous tracks. this will cut down on drive access as well. even if you dont select the track it is still reading it if information is present on the track. i used to hate the drive busy error too. until i sat down and read the manual. it has helped me out a lot. hope it helps you too. bob from IP address 207.114.255.54 |
psism.comby kamarothey are selling an internal IDE compact flash device fully zip compatible... it seems to be totally compatible with our ladys...but i wonder if it works...anyone has tried yet? from IP address 81.49.44.176 |
working with the footswitchbyHey Guys, I'm using an 808 in a dance/rock band and I'm trying to make a foot switch for it so I can have my hands free to play guitar, etc. My question is, is there any way to do multiple footswitching or how does the machine know what sample to cue when switched. I was thinking about trying to turn a dance dance revolution pad into a big footswtich if possible. I haven't hooked anything up to it yet to send a signal and I thought I might check and see if anyone on here has experienced anything similar. from IP address 129.71.56.39 |
Beware of 'Reverse Polarity'by John WestwoodNot sure of a 'multiple board'? Could be possible if the pedal board can transmit MIDI Note values, and how you set up your pads (IE: Press the pedal so the pad 'sustains', press the pedal again to 'stop' the loop - or another pad as a 'one shot', just press another pedal, and the pad plays a long sustained sample and stops when finished) Not familiar myself with 'pedal boards'. But beware that Roland uses a reversed polarity on it's footswitch to that of Yamaha and every other maker I think. So if you even have a 'sustain pedal' - it may 'sustain' until you press the pedal, and then it will stop and start again when you release the pedal. Not right! from IP address 64.228.51.190 |
PLEASE HELP "Poor Haydo" upgrade his SP-808 Classic to SP-808EX!byGreetings all! Some of you may not know Poor Haydo so I'd like to introduce myself... I am Poor Haydo, nice to meet you! I am having trouble loading the EX OS on to my 808. I even downloaded the SMF player from rolandus after trying Cakewalk, alas 'twas a failure. It's like the signal is "trying" to be received as the "PAD" LED blinks faintly when I play the MIDI files but the LCD still displays "Waiting MIDI..." instead of "Receiving x/8". I loaded the V1.05 (or whatever) OS for the classic to be sure the setup was correct and it worked OK... Don't tell me that the fish bums at Roland brought out that OS upgrade to prevent upgrading to the EX OS! If so I would not be surprised > PLEASE HELP ME - I WANNA FEEL THE LOVE!! from IP address 203.166.102.183 |
I had the same problem ...byI tried to update the sp-808 with the files from Rolands Homepage ... but neither the EX or the other worked , I still can´t find the NORMAIZE function anyway . Could someone please mail me the midis to make the 808 to an EX . Thanxs . from IP address 194.18.99.95 |
Same Problem? Bugger!byThanks for responding, hopefully someone who can circumvent this issue will reply also... and perhaps send one of us the "good MIDIs" to upload. If I get 'em I'll email 'em to ya! from IP address 203.166.102.155 |
Customer Service from Roland Australia!byIn my frustration, not getting help from Roland US I contacted www.rolandcorp.com.au Within 24 hours I received email from Tech Support. A nice bloke by the name of David offered to load one of my zip disks with the "Force Flash Update" and send me instructions. All it will cost me is postage there and back - Believe it or not! Where is the love in here? from IP address 203.166.102.188 |
perhaps there is no love for you in there ...hi hi hiby kamaromake an autocriticism... from IP address 217.109.162.173 |
it's an old board hereby kamarothere isn't as much trafic as you imagine...many of us don't have this file since we all have the ex version for ages... from IP address 217.109.162.173 |
OS Download/UploadbyOK K. Do you know how to upload your OS (If possible)? I can get it done for me but I want to D.I.Y it! Anyone else with this problem - I'll be happy to help you out when I sort myself out. Keep it real, Aiiii! from IP address 203.166.102.171 |
need copy of ex osbyi can relate! i am having the same problem. i already bought a 250zip and am ready to go - just need the ex os. i installed the regular os via midi, but it seems like the ex version is blocked. guess i really need a zip disk with the ex os. any idea where i can get one - or some kind of zip image i can burn if i buy a usb zip for my mac or pc? by the way, for future reference to other people who may have the same problem: i was on a mac trying to upload the midi files. quicktime player didn't work. so i found a shareware program for mac os x called Qmidi that did the job great. i set the input to hardware DAC and put the output to port A, where i had a midisport 2x2 box installed with the midi cable from it going to my sp-808. Help! a zip disc copy would be greatly appreciated. i'll pay for the costs of creation, mailing, and effort. thanks! tom - reach me at t@truewesthollywoodstory.com from IP address 24.126.28.58 |
Old lister w/kamaroby dnarkIf I remember correctly the update on the Roland site is to update the original EX to the latest version of the EX, not to update a Classic to an EX. I have the version that updates the Classic to the EX if anyone is interested. Just post here and make sure to include your email address. from IP address 67.33.171.244 |
humby kamaroi already explain all that to haydo on another forum....but he didn't really understood... from IP address 217.109.162.173 |
What other forum?byWhat other forum K? I haven't been posting in forums and then not checking back in have I? Don't forget to enjoy the sauce! from IP address 203.166.102.171 |
Ooooo... Me...Me.... Pick me!byRolands site has v1.05 of classic OS and v1.1 of the EX. Roland Australia said something about a "Force Flash Update" they can put on one of my Zips for me. BUT if you can email me the Classic to EX update that would be most excellent from IP address 203.166.102.171 |
OS updatebyhello fellow sp-808ers, my internal 250 zip just came in the mail today, alls i need is this OS update that has so far eluded me. man i love the sp-808 and i'm hoping this upgrade will take it to the next level. please please please somebody send me the update if possible. many thanks in advance, JG from IP address 24.226.10.99 |
BIG THANKSbyI know this board doesn't get a ton of posts, so i'm take up space by saying a huge thanks to Haydo for sending me the midi files to update my classic machine. BIG THANKS Haydo!!! from IP address 24.141.15.138 |
No Problemoby HaydoHey man, no worries! As you can see I was in the same boat as you a while back. I'm just doin' my bit to SPREAD tha LOVE! } from IP address 203.166.102.168 |
Update to 808EXbyI just got an sp-808 off of ebay and I would love to get a copy of that update to EX. Can you please email it to me? I'm also curious about getting a manual. I have a "basics" manual, but I would really like to get the full thing. Any info on that? Thanks! from IP address 66.41.74.1 |
HAPPY HAYDO is now HAP'NIN' in da HOUSE ;-)byUpon opening my email today I found not one... but TWO responses to my pitiful cries for help! MANY THANKS TO CATSCANDAL & DNARKOSIS Now I'm feelin' tha love & gettin' down wit' ma bad self!! Thanks again guys, you have saved me from multiple murder convictions and made me one helluva happy camper HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY! from IP address 203.166.102.205 |
Hullo!!by.. you were not alone in your unlucky situation.. yes i'm here!! Could you pleeaaaaase send me the files? .. you can imagine how it would be helpfull for me.. ohh pleaasse.. from IP address 194.199.37.242 |
Don't send any money.... We'll bill you!by HaydoHeh heh heh... its yours for One Hundred Million Dollars! In the interests of spreading the love... just check your mail and enjoy from IP address 203.166.102.73 |
What a bad surprise... :-((((by.. MAN It doesn't work!!!!!! I've sent it and.. "waiting for midi" on the screen.. so i've waited and.. "waiting for midi".. i've checked the progression bar of the SMF sender and it was sending but.. "waiting for midi", always "waiting for midi"!!!!!!!! I've the impression that the files you've sent me are the ones that arent cracked.. cause I've tried to update to the os v1.05 of the sp808 "0", and it has worked.. it has worked.. I don't know.. I'm so sad Haydo.. I'm so sad.. were's love Haydo?? :-/ from IP address 194.199.37.242 |
What the.......by HaydoDude, have you installed the 250MB drive yet? Having the wrong drive tends to mess with things. They were the files I used man & it worked for me. With the Roland MIDI's I had that same problem. from IP address 203.166.102.85 |
Demo Zipby Rizal KhanHi, I've lost my Demo Zip for the SP808ex. Support in Malaysia cant help me. I would like a copy just for referrence. I've lost the CD Rom with tools and library too. Is there anywhere I can download the entire demo for the ZIP online? Any help is greatly appreciated. from IP address 202.75.160.254 |
need help vs2 to wav?byrecently got zip drive for computer.trying to use my samples off of sp808pro(zip 100).cant get them to work says file format vs2.how do you convert to wav or just use?have windows 98,a few music progs;music maker,acid 4,fl,have access to cubase also.pleeeeeease help from IP address 152.163.252.195 |
Wave Converterby HaydoJust incase no one has answered your question... Go to www.rolandus.com download section for "Groove" gear and you'll find a li'l program that will do the conversion for you. It's an annoying extra step in the transfer process but it works! from IP address 203.166.102.192 |
Malfunktion of Resonance/High Knob ? zip 750 or 250 ?byI have the black SP-808 at home , will probably buy it ...but .. ..What can be wrong with the high/resonance knob (the one to the right) is acting weird , it moves from zero to abaout 15% and jumps directly to 100% , can it be the OS (ver.1.0) or is it the potentiometer ? or something worse ? please can someone help me with this , I have checked it in diagnostic mode also , whoever I like it , and the guy want to sell it for abaut 400EURO , although I think I like it too much , but I have to change internal zipdrive , 100 is bad , is 750 or 250 to recommend ? Iomega or IBM ? from IP address 194.18.99.95 |
dodgy pot and 250by knobti couldn't tell you if it is the pot or system...but pot would be more likely. assuming its a regular pot it would be easy to replace, just getting to it would be the main task. otherwise all fx parameters are assignable to whichever pots you wish (or the d-beam), so if you can live with just 2 pots, it is easy to work around the dodgy one. i have two 808s, one with 750 drive, one with 250. the 750 is fine for use as a hard disk recorder, but it is not so good for processing samples, lots of extended waiting. ive had no probs, but others tried it and quickly switched back to the 250. so, you are probably better off with the 250 drive, it operates as well as the 100 but with more memory. imho - iomega is best, for drives and disks. i dunno european prices but 400euros seems quite high. here in japan, used classics on 100mb go for US$150. from IP address 165.76.17.3 |
750MB Zip drive upgrade?by HaydoSorry dude, not sure about your res. prob. but your question about the 750MB drive is a good one. Is it possible to install a 750MB Zip drive into the SP-808/EX? I would have thought it wouldn't be a problem as the 250MB drive was welcomed with open arms by my 808 when I replaced the 100MB prior to upgrading the OS. Anyone actually tried it? WOW, just imagine... it would only take a couple of days to copy a 750MB disk using the internal drive > from IP address 203.166.102.192 |
Look before you Leap!by HaydoOne should read responses to a post before replying and asking an answered question or risk looking like a Nuff-Nuff. D'OH! from IP address 203.166.102.192 |
250 disks in 750 drive ?byYes , I think you are right that it is the pot , I did order a new one .. waiting for it , Sample processing takes longer time with 750 ? But if I use an 250 Zip-disk in the 750 drive , is it the same as having a 250 drive then? , It would give me the option to choose..I guess . BAD ENGLISH ?! HI! from IP address 194.18.99.95 |
please help me with manual sp-808exbyplease.i need a manual for sp-808ex. the dealer from my country (romania) don't want to sell me the manual because the sampler isn't buy from him.Can anyone help me? please from IP address 212.146.71.250 |
manualby SymplxYou can buy the manual directly from Roland for $20US. Symplx from IP address 69.22.154.168 |
EX manual downloadby ak balancefrom IP address 82.181.27.215 |
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