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help with chosing a airbrush system

February 10 2005 at 3:32 PM
  (Login oddball8)
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hello all
have been mulling over this for a while
and from a begineers point of view a minefield
so many to choose from varying from cheap to alarming prices,
however reading some posts we all have our own tastes and (what works for me)
but for someone whos looking at buying a system ( not too expensive )
what would you guys recommend .
and compresser (didnt think of that either)
cheers
andy

 
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64.12.116.130

Airbrush Systems

February 10 2005, 11:12 PM 

Hi Andy,

There's a bunch of guys out there that have alot more expertise in this area than I do...but from the "average joe" modeler I can give you some tips.

A couple of weeks ago I posted a question at ww2modelmaker asking what everyone used for airbrushes and compressors. I did get a few of the guys to respond and this is what I figured out. The top of the line airbrush is the Iwata brand AB. I comes in different types and costs can vary from a little over $100 to $150...give or take $10-20. I think their compressors are around the same price, but the Iwata's are worth every penny! The fine lines that you get are incredible. Now for the "average joe", like me, I have a Pasche VLS system double action that I think is great for me. I'm not a heavy duty modeler, but I do like to think I'm better than average. (around the web that would make my work seem like a beginners!) Anyway it comes with a regular tip and a fine tip, various cups and a nice braided hose. This runs for around $70-80 bucks. I also have the Pasche compressor, nothing fancy, but gets it done for me. Clean up is really great, especially since my last AB was a double action Badger...great AB, but a real pain to keep clean and work right. Some guys use a Campbell/Hausfeld (?) home compressor with a holding tank and water trap for around $100, which I will look into sometime in the future. Take your pick, figure out what you like and what you want to spend. My advice is to really be sure it's what you want...don't settle for something just to get an airbrush...get what you'll be happy with for a long time.

Brian

 
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thanks brian n/t

February 12 2005, 4:21 AM 

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Airbrush......

February 12 2005, 8:29 AM 

Get an Iwata Revolution,it's a fantastic double action brush and the best part very inexpensive,go on ebay do search for air compressor there usually several small 2 gallon models to choose from.Hope that helps.Go onlne to Dixie Airbrush,great prices.

 
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Re: Airbrush......

February 13 2005, 3:31 PM 

Thanks for the information Brian and Alan.

I'm seriously looking for an airbrush system myself and have been for a very long time. As a novice, do you think that, if I commit myself to the Iwata AB and compressor, I will find it too difficult to handle or more features than I would need? Also, can I use another kind of compressor for this system?

Cheers,

Alan

 
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Hi Alan...

February 14 2005, 11:38 AM 

Hi Alan,

Once again I'm no real expert here but I do have some experience.
One of the things I looked for when I changed from my Badger Double Action (DA) was ease of clean-up. I would spend 30-40 minutes trying to get my Badger in working order...spend another 20 cleaning up...and repeat the process when I went to use it again. Now I have the Paasche DA and it really saves me alot of frustration. Ease of use...clean-up is super easy and quick...just right for me. Now for the Iwata I've not worked with it and have only talked to people on-line about it and yes, it may be a little more complex than my Paasche, but everyone that has one has had no problems with it and really just sings its praises. As for the compressor I think that Airbrushes work better with their own brand of compressors, but also with the various adaptors around from either the hobby stores or all the hardware stores you could find what you want for the price. As I said before pick what works for you. If you want to become a serious modeler (I mean 1-2 kits a month) invest in good equipment. It'll definitly pay off in the end...both with the kit and your frustration level. Hope this helped.

Brian

 
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I use an Iwata HP-C (2 of them) & a Cambel Hausfeld Compressor...

February 14 2005, 11:42 PM 

HP-C is a very nice gun, though it only has a .3 needle for the lowest. This is why I have two. I converted one to a .2 needle for fine lines.

About two years or so ago, the original moderator of this site ran a comparison on types of guns. It was decided that the HP-C was the best and simplest to use. But while at my art store, I was told by the painter that the Iwata Revolution was the way to go. Why he said this is that when I took my .2 gun in to get a nylon brush installed, instead of the rubber o-ring, he saw that I had the .2 needle in it and asked why. I guess that the Revolution has a smaller needle and is a cheeper gun to buy.

But I like the bigger cup of the HP-C, though I think the newer Iwata's have larger cups now. Plus they come with the nylon brush, which helps with the sticking needle! Check their web site.

Compressor: I like the Campbel Hausfeld compressor. It is expensive, about $110 new at Harbor Freight, but you can find on Ebay such as I did, two of them for $90, with one being new in the box!! You want an OIL LESS compressor. Most of the little ones, 2 gal tanks are oil types, which will mess up your paint, SO WATCH AND READ ABOUT THEM. Or you can buy one from an arts store which are expensive.

Ron

 
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Excellent Advice

February 18 2005, 2:50 PM 

Ron and Brian, I finally made the plunge and ordered based on your recommendations.

As you can tell, I know absolutely nothing about airbrushes and/or compressors. I apologize in advance for my ignorance on this subject. I hope that eventually I can understand what you mean about things like nylon brush, ease of cleaning, etc.

Ron, I don't understand what you said about changing the size from the 0.3 to 0.2. What effect does that have exactly?

Alan

 
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