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Top Cop Escapes Ban

April 30 2004 at 8:57 PM
Hanbo...  (Login Hanbo...)
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Top traffic policeman fined for speeding

A BOLTON MP has called for a senior traffic police officer to consider his future after he was caught driving at more than 100 mph on a motorway.

The head of Greater Manchester Police force's traffic unit, Assistant Chief Constable Steve Thomas, escaped a driving ban after he argued he was speeding "safely" when he was clocked doing 104 mph on the new M6 toll road. Today, David Crausby, MP for Bolton North-east, questioned whether Thomas could continue in his job. He said: "Clearly he has sent out the wrong message to the people who put lives at risk on our roads everyday by driving too fast.

"Speeding is not taken seriously enough and the very least we should expect is that our head of traffic obeys the rules that it is his job to enforce."

Thomas was was fined £450 and given six penalty points on his licence by North Staffordshire Magistrates sitting at Stoke.

Normally, anyone caught driving over 100 mph would expect a ban, except in exceptional circumstances.

The sentence will anger many motorists who have been caught by speed cameras across the country and road safety campaigners.

Thomas was stopped near Birmingham after passing a roadside speed trap driving at 34 mph above the limit.

He told magistrates: "On the day in question, the driving and road conditions were good and I was part of a group of around 15 cars all doing around the same speed. I considered that my manner of driving was safe.

"However, exceeding the speed limit by this amount is unacceptable and I sincerely regret my error of judgment."

It is understood that the police chief will now face internal disciplinary action.

A spokesman for Greater Manchester Police said: "Mr Thomas is responsible for traffic duties at Greater Manchester Police and that responsibility will remain."

A spokesman for anti-speeding campaigners Brake reacted angrily to the case. He said: "Someone in Mr Thomas' position, who has seen at first hand the consequences of speeding, should know better."

Hugh German, vice chairman of Bolton Advanced Motorists said: "It is a dreadful example to set other people. Anyone else caught driving at such a speed would probably have been banned."

Sgt Paul Kelly, spokesman for the Police Federation in Greater Manchester said: "It is not unusual for someone at that speed to escape a driving ban, but I hoped he has learnt his lesson."

What do you think? Send your views to Letters to the Editor, Bolton Evening News, Churchgate, Bolton, BL1 1DE or e-mail Drop a line...letters@boltoneveningnews.co.uk.

From,
http://www.thisisbolton.co.uk/lancashire/bolton/news/BENTOPNEWS0.html


So, You CAN "Speed Safely", at, '34'mph 'OVER the LIMIT'!!

And it CAN be, "An Error of Judgement"!!

How Strange!!

Also, 'HE' says,
>"On the day in question, the driving and road conditions were good and I was part of a group of around 15 cars all doing around the same speed. I considered that my manner of driving was safe.

Which sends out the message,
You should Always, Adjust your Speed to the "Driving/Road Conditions"!
(Common Knowlege!!)
Keep up with the 'other traffic'!?
(Even though they're breaking the law!!)
Consider your manner of driving to be, "Safe"!
(Even at 34mph 'over the limit!!)

I'm wondering how the other drivers in the "Group of around 15", fared in court! were they too spared a 'BAN'???
(Perhaps they were 'Witnesses' to say how 'good' the road/driving conditions were, and how 'Safe' it was to 'Speed'!!!)

Again, it's a case of 'One rule for THEM', and 'One rule for 'US'!!

I'm surprised he (Thomas) didn't attempt to claim that the 'Scamera' was operating illegally!!!
Or even that he was 'pursuing' the 'Speeders'!!

Hanbo.







 
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

April 30 2004, 11:36 PM 

>> I'm wondering how the other drivers in the "Group of around 15", fared in court! were they too spared a 'BAN'???

Excellent point!

Does anyone know?

 


 
 
Speeder? If Only!!!!
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Re: Top Cop Escapes Ban

May 1 2004, 4:30 PM 

That is exactly what myself and the rest of the gang were wondering. Cousin WildCat passed similar comment on the PH thread on this! In fact she reminded us of a case we read about 12-18 months ago whereby 8-10 people tonned in in a new stretch of motorway. Nice piece of straight tarmac and just "begs for you to open up your motor". The Plod arranged for them to go before beak together - and some got hefty fines of £1000 and three (including a headteacher) received bans ranging from two weeks to three months!

Still - one rule for us and one for them as the good Prof says!

 
 
Andy
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Re: Top Cop Escapes Ban

May 1 2004, 8:14 PM 

"He told magistrates: "On the day in question, the driving and road conditions were good and I was part of a group of around 15 cars all doing around the same speed. I considered that my manner of driving was safe"

This applies to almost all of the motorists who are caught on camera and given a whupping. But they still get the whupping. One law for them, one for us.

 
 
Hanbo...
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Re: Top Cop Escapes Ban

May 1 2004, 10:14 PM 

B-J, this is an extract from the e-mail I've sent to the editor of Bolton Evening News.

letters@boltoneveningnews.co.uk
Subject: Top traffic policeman fined for speeding

Re: the article on ACC Steve Thomas.
Bolton evening news, 30-04-04
He claims there were 'Around 15 other cars travelling at around the same speed' as himself when caught speeding.

Do you have any knowledge of what penalties these 15 'Other' drivers received?

Furthermore there must be thousands of drivers who regret their "Error of judgement" when caught doing 31mph in a 30 zone!!
Even when "Driving/road conditions were good" and they considered their driving to be "Safe" as did Mr. Thomas!!
(At 34MPH 'Over the Limit')

I wonder if he considers himself "SAFE" to drive when he's 'had a few drinks'?

I shall post the reply here if/when I receive one.

---------------
Speeder? If Only!!!
Hi, again, how goes it bud?

The 'Speeders' you mention were 'Normal' every day people!
I wonder how many of them could afford the £1000 fines?
Or almost certainly lost their jobs?

The ACC Thomas fine was a slap in the face to all drivers!
He probaly paid his fine from his 'small change pocket', as it was a minimal part of his weekly salary!
He should have been 'made an example of', but then, HE is 'A Member of the ScamSH!T Brigade'!!!
................

Andy,

>>>"He told magistrates: "On the day in question, the driving and road conditions were good and I was part of a group of around 15 cars all doing around the same speed. I considered that my manner of driving was safe"

This could be a 'Floodgate Opener', let's hope a very large number of drivers try using this _Excuse_?

Bet it will lead too a heavier penalty for admitting their, "Error of Judgement", and believing their driving to be "SAFE"!!!

Hanbo.








 
 
Speeder? If Only!!!!
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Re: Top Cop Escapes Ban

May 2 2004, 5:31 PM 

Hi Prof H!

We are doing fine! Still engaged in battle with the Lancs Scammers! Now they are after integrating their Gatsos with ANPR - though these twazaks have not caught on that the PC Gatso can only ping them for driving a tadge too quickly past him! He cannot chase after 'em with his "blues n twos"! (Article in Lancashire Evening News and "thisislancashire.co.uk")

It says in the article:

"This would allow the registration of any vehicle caught speeding through a fixed camera site to be checked against intellignece on the national police computer. If something suspicious was found the camera would alert police, helping trace people quickly!"

Adrian Emberton (my pal - who is now ignoring my letters!) and big-time Mr Big of the Central Motorist Mugging Office in Blackburn says:

"It is an untapped resource which is being looked at because criminals have to get from A to B and often do so in a hurry!"

ARRGH! Is this Arschenloch for real!

Like a car thief will not change the number plartes when he maakes vehicle into cut 'n' shut?

Oh! And the terrorists - false plates? cloned vehicles? By the time they have got and developed the film - the crims will be long gone!

What will they think of next to sell the speed camera to an ever- weary public.

Every day in every way - it gets better and better, funnier and funnier - and redefines surreal!

You just cannot make it up!

 
 
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