Backup of my last complaint email sent before being banned:

 

Dear Sirs

This is part of an ongoing serious complaint about BBC bias, BBC Nottingham
Messageboard Moderators allowing, in fact facilitating, the forum to be used
as a political platform, and as a platform for abuse and "potential libel",
and refusal to reveal a contact for serious complaints.

To date I must have had hundreds of complaints ignored, and thousands of
posts removed, and I still await a satisfactory outcome.

For your convenience:

I had posted the rejection emails received just this month in reply to
complaints that I have made about posts that insult and "potentially libel"
me, and break the house rules.

And, for comparison, the emails that I have recieved informing me that posts
of mine have allegedly broken the rules about friendly diologue through to
inappropriate content and "potentially libelling" others.

Please pass this on to your legal department for comment, assuming the
moderators have not removed it.

Message To The Moderator bogush j mann - 1675th post - 9 May 2004 11:41
I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?thread=%3C1084099297-10312.17%40forum0.thdo.bbc.co.uk%3E&find=%3C1084099297-10312.17%40forum0.thdo.bbc.co.uk%3E&board=england.nottingham&sort=Te

Thanking you in anticipation of a swift resolution to my ongoing complaint.

Yours, etc

Mr B J Mann

PS The moderators have now removed all the posts of emails informing me that they had removed posts of mine, which in my opinion, even if they were in
breach of house rules, could not possibly be worse then the rude, insulting
and "potentially libellous" posts by others directed at me which are STILL
on the board, despite numerous complaints from myself.

Fortunately I have posted a backup here:

Backup Of Complaint To BBC Re Moderator Bias

http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=96157&messageid=1084105097&lp=1084109781

bjm

Note that they have the time to remove my messages, and to reject my complaints, but not, apparently to compare the two.

 

Emphasis is mine.

 

Dear Mr Mann,

It has come to our attention that, in the month of April, we had to remove over 60 messages posted from your account. As we're sure you'll understand, the BBC only has limited moderation resources and removing such a large number of posts for violations of the house rules has meant these resources could not be allocated elsewhere.

It has also come to our attention that over 30 complaints originating from your account were sent to our Moderators, the vast majority of which were not upheld following review. Abuse of the complaints system is taken very seriously as it prevents prompt attention being given to complaints about serious breaches of the House Rules.

We've also noticed that identical emails from your email address have been received by a variety of email addresses within the BBC, including some that are all dealt with by the same person, with more than one email being received per day. You have received at least 25 responses from BBC staff since the start of the year, again a disproportionate use of our limited resources.

It takes up a lot of time and resources to deal with this many messages and emails in such a short period of time. Due to the high amount of messages we have removed for breaking our House Rules, as well as misuse of the "complain about this post" feature, we are permanently suspending your ability to participate in the BBC Messageboards. This means that any accounts you currently hold, and any that you might create in the future, will be banned from our boards.

We understand that this may be upsetting but as a publicly funded corporation, the BBC has to ensure that license fee payers receive the best value for money possible. Various members of our staff have spent a disproportionate amount of time dealing with your account in past and we don't feel it would be appropriate for us to continue to use our resources in this way.

The BBC Web Guide (http://www.bbc.co.uk/webguide/) has links to many sites where you might find other online communities to participate in. You may also wish to take a look at our ChatGuide where you can find out about internet safety (http://www.bbc.co.uk/chatguide).

We have looked in to your complaint and we feel that the BBC Nottingham Messageboard Moderators have acted correctly.  However, if you wish to take the matter further then I suggest you contact our Programme Complaints Unit at http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/contactus/serious_form.shtml.

 

Kind Regards,
BBC Messageboard Team

BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/

This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain
personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically
stated.
If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system.
Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in
reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the
BBC monitors e-mails sent or received.
Further communication will signify your consent to this.

 - Not accepted.

 

 

Note also that contributors are instructed:

If you see a post which offends you, please don't reply to it on the board. Instead, click the 'Complain about this post' link at the end of the message in question, and fill in the form provided, giving details of why you think the message breaks our House Rules.

 

If I complain: they complain, and reject my complaint.

If a reply, they complain and remove my reply.

Either way, they ban me.

Three Times!

 

To Programme Complaints Unit

http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/contactus/serious_form.shtml

Please Note that I have been referred to this complaints facility by the BBCi Messageboard team following their actions against me.

The gist of my complaint is that the BBC Nottingham Messageboard Moderators have been biased in their moderating and further, have now banned me for "misuse" (ie use) of the complaints facility and for having a large number of posts removed from the messageboard (the reason for my use of the complaints facility).

This bias in my view, as well as going against the BBC's charter and values, and being a misuse of my taxes and license fee, has been in support of particular political agendas and of particular commercial interests.

I will refrain, at this stage, from doing more than mention that the abuse against me on the BBC Messageboard referred to has been extended to misuse of the Royal Mail to harass (stalk?), misuse of the internet to spam forums and soliciting the emailing of porn, which may, or may not, have anything to do with the BBC, their officers, or employees.

Whilst I appreciate that it is possible for me to be in the wrong in my opinion of their bias as opinions, by definition, are subjective, there are a number of objective tests that prove that in many cases I must be right.

1) I have repeatedly asked, over the months, for an address for serious complaints, and/or for my complaints to be forwarded to a Legal Department, but I have never had these requests fulfilled.

This includes a request in relation to a post I made to an edited national BBCi opinion page where I had put forward an opinion of bias in the selection of messages to publish, and quoted a number of examples: my opinion was edited out and just the examples of the opposite standpoint to mine were published under my name, giving the impression that I was supporting the contrary view to the one I held.

2) I have complained about rude and offensive posts, and been told that they did not breach the house rules.

However, when I later cut and pasted the posts I had complained about into similar threads "my" posts were removed for being rude and offensive!

3) I complained about posts abusing and insulting me and was told that they did not breach the house rules.

When I cut and pasted parts of the messageboard discussion list index containing the starts of abusive and insulting posts directed at myself they were removed for "unfriendly" language, "unsuitable" content, etc.

4) I have often had posts removed for allegedly being overlong at over 500 words, and yet they were under 500, 400, in one case even under 300 words long!

5) A poster recently cut and pasted thousands of words of whole Guardian articles and other material split into several posts to keep within the 500 post limit. When I quoted the the first parts of the starting posts, and the corresponding starts of the articles, with the source, article title, date and writer, my posts with partial and attributed quotes were removed for quoting large chunks of potentially copyright material. However, the original posts, plagiarising entire unattributed articles were left on the board.

One of these posts was not only clearly in breach of the rule which I had supposedly broken by posting a fraction of the same article, with attribution, but it also contained the following:

>> "..........Mr Manns post is clearly *bonkers*, a stew of nostalgic
yearnings for a lost golden age, *tirades* against the permissive society and general fist-shaking *rage* against modernity itself........." <<

Which was deemed not to break any rules about using unfriendly language, inappropriate content, abusive words, perpetuating quarrels, etc, etc.

6) Just a review of the BBC Nottingham Messageboard Discussion List Index Page will find, in the short extracts from the starts of the initiating posts, many clearly insulting me (accusing me of bullying, ranting, Mann lives in a fantasy land, repeated calls for my banning, repeated threads started on one topic already covered accusing me of not answering a question I had answered several times) and many more which obviously are to anyone following the discussions and knowing the background to the "debates".

Opening the threads quickly reveals other insults, eg *Bogush* *J* *Mann* is unpleasant.

These are allowed to stand, whereas if I dare to post something along the lines of "can't you read" when someone ignores a quoted fact repeatedly, or I emphasise a question by emboldening the "why" when querying an opinion they repeatedly post without justification, backing argument or evidence: my post is removed for unfriendly language or perpetuating a quarrel.

7) There are "several" posters complaining about my posts, and, in my opinion, being unfairly supported by the/a moderator.

These posters all support the Nottingham tram (which I argue is inappropriate for the city) and an anti-car agenda which I oppose. However, on a number of occasions they have logged in under one log-in, but signed off under another, either on the BBC Nottingham forum or on my own forum. I also know that several "individuals" have posted to my forum from the same IP address, and I am also aware that the same "people" have done the same to another forum. Others, by the content and style of their posting, are clearly one person. "They" have been allowed to continue to distort the "debate" through concurrent multiple log ins.

However, I was banned previously, supposedly for a month, again for "misuse" (ie use) of the complaints facility, and when I couldn't log back in created a new log in, only to be banned again for using "multiple" log ins, supposedly in contravention of the rules (which was later admitted not to be the case).

In closing, when I was banned previously, I received a post to my forum which gave the impression that the poster knew I was banned. This was before even I was aware of the fact.

With respect to point (1) above, when I raised this for discussion on the BBC Nottingham board, giving evidence of my standpoint being correct, one of the BBC Hosts responded along the lines of everyone knows that the opposite is true.

I would hope that the above gives enough objective evidence of clear bias in the "moderating" of the board.

In the circumstances, then, the large number of my posts removed clearly is not evidence of my violating the rules, but of the moderators violating them.

Given that, it is equally clear that my large number of complaints is not evidence of my "misuse" of the complaints facility, but further evidence of the moderators' misuse of their power, and their outright rejection of almost every complaint merely adds to that.

Yours, etc,

Mr B J Mann

cc Messageboard Team

cc Mr John Heppell (MP)

 

Backup Of Complaint To BBC Re Moderator Bias

The Jolly Ol' George Thread aka The Alternative To The BBC Board aka The Truth Will Out

 

Note that they have removed emails going back to the 18th April - that have been deemed acceptable for over three weeks.

 

Dear Contributor,

Thank you for posting a message to a BBCi message board.

We very much appreciate your interest, but are sorry to tell you that your message has been removed.

This is because we've removed the post you were responding to, and we've consequently had to remove your message too, as unfortunately it makes little sense without its previous context.

Again, thank you for your time and interest.

BBCi Messageboard Moderators

TO ALL BBCi MESSAGEBOARD USERS: Unfortunately, some people repeatedly post inappropriate material. After receipt of this notice, anyone who posts messages which break our House Rules (<http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?x=y&board=mc&state=houserules>) may have action taken against their account (or accounts). Such action may take the form of a user's future messages being delayed for checking before they appear on the boards, or of the account(s) being suspended or banned without further notice.


Your original message:

From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: Who Sets Speed Limits
Date: 8 May 2004 18:10:43
Message-ID: <1084036243-6708.30@forum1.thdo.bbc.co.uk>
X-URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?find=%3C1084036243-6708.30%40forum1.thdo.bbc.co.uk%3E


George pretends to "quote":

>> >> "George said:"

>> >> >> "Could you please tell us the per vehicle mile fatality rates when
the above applied (before MOT's were compulsory) and now?"

>> >> "No."

And then alleges:

>> "Then if you're not willing to provide the evidence then please withdraw
your previous claim. - That is my point"

Sorry, George, but what I actually said was:

>> "George said:"

>> >> "Could you please tell us the per vehicle mile fatality rates when
the above applied (before MOT's were compulsory) and now?"

>> "No."

>> "Not in as "I can't"."

>> "But as in: "I won't"."

>> "And "I won't" because I've given you the annual
figures, and the annual figures per mile, and per
passenger mile, all the way back to the 1920's, if I
recall.

>> "So, if you have a point to make, why not just make it, instead of
playing silly games and trying to trick me into saying something that you
incorrectly think is going to be to your advantage."

So you still prefer to play silly games, eh, George?!

 

Dear Contributor,

Thank you for posting a message to a BBCi message board.

We very much appreciate your interest, but are sorry to tell you that your message has been removed.

Your message has been removed for legal reasons. Legal reasons could include:

*Potentially libellous comments
*Contempt of court (writing something which may influence the jury in a current or forthcoming trial)
*Breach of an injunction

Please remove any such material from your message, then resubmit it.

Again, thank you for your time and interest.

BBCi Messageboard Moderators

TO ALL BBCi MESSAGEBOARD USERS: Unfortunately, some people repeatedly post inappropriate material. After receipt of this notice, anyone who posts messages which break our House Rules (<http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?x=y&board=mc&state=houserules>) may have action taken against their account (or accounts). Such action may take the form of a user's future messages being delayed for checking before they appear on the boards, or of the account(s) being suspended or banned without further notice.

Your original message:

From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: Who Sets Speed Limits
Date: 8 May 2004 13:59:38
Message-ID: <1084021178-3159.14@forum1.thdo.bbc.co.uk>
X-URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?find=%3C1084021178-3159.14%40forum1.thdo.bbc.co.uk%3E


George said:

>> "Could you please tell us the per vehicle mile fatality rates when the
above applied (before MOT's were compulsory) and now?"

No.

Not in as "I can't".

But as in: "I won't".

And "I won't" because I've given you the annual figures, and the annual
figures per mile, and per passenger mile, all the way back to the 1920's,
if I recall.

So, if you have a point to make, why not just make it, instead of playing
silly games and trying to trick me into saying something that you
incorrectly think is going to be to your advantage.

*MODERATORS*

The following is a play on words used to prove that you can phrase a
question to attempt to get an answer you want from a questioner, to their
detriment, as long as they agree to answer only yes or no, and/or, the
questioner (with the assistance of moderators) tries to ensure that the
answer isn't expanded on:

George, have you stopped beating your wife yet?

This is not, nor ever has been, an allegation of wife beating.

It is not politically incorrect.

Nor is it anti-feminist.

Nor misogynist.

So, please, Mr Moderator, if you are thinking of censoring my posts yet
again: please don't

 

Dear Contributor,

Thank you for posting a message to a BBCi message board.

We very much appreciate your interest, but are sorry to tell you that your message has been removed.

This is because it's part of an ongoing quarrel which is creating an escalation of bad feeling on the board, and which is detracting from the topic under discussion.

Please note that we remove quarrelsome messages irrespective of who started the quarrel. If you see a post which offends you, please don't reply to it on the board. Instead, click the 'Complain about this post' link at the end of the message in question, and fill in the form provided, giving details of why you think the message breaks our House Rules. The message will then be flagged up to us for urgent attention.

Again, thank you for your time and interest.

BBCi Messageboard Moderators

TO ALL BBCi MESSAGEBOARD USERS: Unfortunately, some people repeatedly post inappropriate material. After receipt of this notice, anyone who posts messages which break our House Rules (<http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?x=y&board=mc&state=houserules>) may have action taken against their account (or accounts). Such action may take the form of a user's future messages being delayed for checking before they appear on the boards, or of the account(s) being suspended or banned without further notice.


Your original message:

From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: Removed messages
Date: 18 Apr 2004 16:33:57
Message-ID: <1082302437-25240.51@forum0.thdo.bbc.co.uk>
X-URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?find=%3C1082302437-25240.51%40forum0.thdo.bbc.co.uk%3E


robert i posted a lot of stuff like:

>> "if you really wished to have a debate you would instaed of reams of
rant."

Well, I did post on another thread:

>> "Now, why don't you all get back to something you can actually handle
without any help from me:"

>> "Attacking Ol' Bogey!"

But I have to wonder: would he have been able to handle it without a prompt
from me?

Dear Contributor,

Thank you for posting a message to a BBCi message board.

We very much appreciate your interest, but are sorry to tell you that your message has been removed.

This is because it's part of an ongoing quarrel which is creating an escalation of bad feeling on the board, and which is detracting from the topic under discussion.

Please note that we remove quarrelsome messages irrespective of who started the quarrel. If you see a post which offends you, please don't reply to it on the board. Instead, click the 'Complain about this post' link at the end of the message in question, and fill in the form provided, giving details of why you think the message breaks our House Rules. The message will then be flagged up to us for urgent attention.

Again, thank you for your time and interest.

BBCi Messageboard Moderators

TO ALL BBCi MESSAGEBOARD USERS: Unfortunately, some people repeatedly post inappropriate material. After receipt of this notice, anyone who posts messages which break our House Rules (<http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?x=y&board=mc&state=houserules>) may have action taken against their account (or accounts). Such action may take the form of a user's future messages being delayed for checking before they appear on the boards, or of the account(s) being suspended or banned without further notice.


Your original message:

From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: Removed messages
Date: 18 Apr 2004 13:54:25
Message-ID: <1082292865-2599.28@forum2.thdo.bbc.co.uk>
X-URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?find=%3C1082292865-2599.28%40forum2.thdo.bbc.co.uk%3E


robert i said:

>> "why else would you phrase your statement about me agreeing with JGG?
you are not taking part in a debate"

Because I want to know if you "respond" to, and comment on, postings
without even reading them.

Or if you really have read 100% of Jolly's postings, and actually really do
think that he is "100% correct in every posting" based on the "evidence" of
your own eyes.

Before I take part in  your  "debate".

Dear Contributor,

Thank you for posting a message to a BBCi message board.

We very much appreciate your interest, but are sorry to tell you that your message has been removed.

This is because it's part of an ongoing quarrel which is creating an escalation of bad feeling on the board, and which is detracting from the topic under discussion.

Please note that we remove quarrelsome messages irrespective of who started the quarrel. If you see a post which offends you, please don't reply to it on the board. Instead, click the 'Complain about this post' link at the end of the message in question, and fill in the form provided, giving details of why you think the message breaks our House Rules. The message will then be flagged up to us for urgent attention.

Again, thank you for your time and interest.

BBCi Messageboard Moderators

TO ALL BBCi MESSAGEBOARD USERS: Unfortunately, some people repeatedly post inappropriate material. After receipt of this notice, anyone who posts messages which break our House Rules (<http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?x=y&board=mc&state=houserules>) may have action taken against their account (or accounts). Such action may take the form of a user's future messages being delayed for checking before they appear on the boards, or of the account(s) being suspended or banned without further notice.


Your original message:

From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: Bogush through the looking glass
Date: 18 Apr 2004 12:34:27
Message-ID: <1082288067-1896.25@forum3.mh.bbc.co.uk>
X-URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?find=%3C1082288067-1896.25%40forum3.mh.bbc.co.uk%3E


Mr JG Giant said:

>> "According to BJM I am a Labour spin doctor. Hilarious. Mann lives in a
fantasy land."

For once, I'm wrong:

You obviously aren't under their control.

Dear Contributor,

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BBCi Messageboard Moderators

TO ALL BBCi MESSAGEBOARD USERS: Unfortunately, some people repeatedly post inappropriate material. After receipt of this notice, anyone who posts messages which break our House Rules (<http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?x=y&board=mc&state=houserules>) may have action taken against their account (or accounts). Such action may take the form of a user's future messages being delayed for checking before they appear on the boards, or of the account(s) being suspended or banned without further notice.


Your original message:

From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: Removed messages
Date: 18 Apr 2004 15:50:09
Message-ID: <1082299809-25231.36@forum0.thdo.bbc.co.uk>
X-URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?find=%3C1082299809-25231.36%40forum0.thdo.bbc.co.uk%3E


robert i said:

>> "i would like you to leave. not join in "my" debate."

Says it all, really, doesn't it robert.

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Your original message:

From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: Removed messages
Date: 18 Apr 2004 12:38:38
Message-ID: <1082288318-1874.35@forum3.mh.bbc.co.uk>
X-URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?find=%3C1082288318-1874.35%40forum3.mh.bbc.co.uk%3E


robert i said:

>> "Jolly Green Giant. you are 100% correct in every posting!!!!"

Which raises the question:

Has robert read 100% of every every JGG posting?

Or is he commenting on something he knows nothing about?

I think it only common courtesy that others should be allowed to know
before corresponding with him in future.

Dear Contributor,

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Please note that we remove quarrelsome messages irrespective of who started the quarrel. If you see a post which offends you, please don't reply to it on the board. Instead, click the 'Complain about this post' link at the end of the message in question, and fill in the form provided, giving details of why you think the message breaks our House Rules. The message will then be flagged up to us for urgent attention.

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BBCi Messageboard Moderators

TO ALL BBCi MESSAGEBOARD USERS: Unfortunately, some people repeatedly post inappropriate material. After receipt of this notice, anyone who posts messages which break our House Rules (<http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?x=y&board=mc&state=houserules>) may have action taken against their account (or accounts). Such action may take the form of a user's future messages being delayed for checking before they appear on the boards, or of the account(s) being suspended or banned without further notice.


Your original message:

From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: Removed messages
Date: 18 Apr 2004 16:26:21
Message-ID: <1082301982-9919.35@forum3.mh.bbc.co.uk>
X-URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?find=%3C1082301982-9919.35%40forum3.mh.bbc.co.uk%3E


robert i said:

>> "bogush you don't really want to have a debate do you? you just wish to
show off."

You'll find it easier to type sense if you aren't trying to do a handstand
at the same time, robert.

Dear Contributor,

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Your original message:

From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: Removed messages
Date: 18 Apr 2004 18:47:53
Message-ID: <1082310474-9134.21@forum2.mh.bbc.co.uk>
X-URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?find=%3C1082310474-9134.21%40forum2.mh.bbc.co.uk%3E


robert i said:

----------------------------

bogush. i querie for what purpose your postings are for and for who's
benefit.

they are certainly not for the purpose of debate. they make no sence,
unless you see through the rant. then it becomes clear. one's ego.

-----------------------------

I rest my case.

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From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: Removed messages
Date: 18 Apr 2004 17:29:44
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robert i queried:

>> bogush sez,

>> """But I have to wonder: would he have been able to handle it without a
prompt from me?"""

>> may i ask who this sentence is meant for?

---------------------------

Let me help you out yet again, robert.

I actually said was:

----------------------------

robert i posted a lot of stuff like:

>> "if you really wished to have a debate you would instaed of reams of
rant."

Well, I did post on another thread:

>> "Now, why don't you all get back to something you can actually handle
without any help from me:"

>> "Attacking Ol' Bogey!"

But I have to wonder: would he have been able to handle it without a prompt
from me?

---------------------

Did my little promp help?

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From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: One rule for them........Or me?
Date: 2 May 2004 12:22:16
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Dave Bennell said:

My apologies.
"When I posted the same (in the Silly Story Theme) it was in context and
had been used on the BBC 2 website.".........should read "When A Ferocious
****su posted the same (in the Silly Story Theme) it was in context."

When I posted the remark about the donkey, it was in context and had been
used on a BBC 2 website.

----------------------------------------

Well, I'm glad you cleared that up for us.

So as long as it is "in context", you can post as much rude, racist and
obscene material as you want.

But what, pray tell, is "in context" about what was posted, with the
"context" of the BBC Nottingam messageboard, or a thread entitled "Silly
Story", or even the previous post?

And even if BBC 2 did have something on bestiality, what business have
you reposting it here?

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From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: Can You Count On The Moderators
Date: 2 May 2004 10:28:59
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Off The BBC Nottingham Messageboard

Jolly Green Giant posted a 439 (four hundred and thirty nine) word post:

re: New airport Jolly Green Giant - 99th post - 26 Apr 2004 21:54

Which comprised a cut and paste of a 353 word post of mine which included a
precis of the thousand word Discussion List Index first page to demonstrate
to all those who refuse to read it (or admit that they have) that most of
the threads should have been banned).

Six words to tell me that I use a lot of words.

Seven words to tell me that I do not make a convincing argument.

And closed with fifty odd words insulting me.

And that was left on the board.

-----------------------------------------------------

However my 267 (two hundred and sixty word) reply was removed:

>> "because it is inappropriately long. Overlong messages tend to
discourage debate and discussion on the boards, so please cut your message
down your post to 500 words or under, then repost it.

I reposted the entire email, and, with a bit of extra padding, managed to
get it up to 499 words here:

re: New airport bogush j mann - 1522nd post - 29 Apr 2004 21:28

-------------------------------------------------------

Robert l Cut and pasted that 499 word post, and another 189 word post
(499+189=688), and added the 4 words "this is rubbish bogush" (688+4=692)
which brought the total (including the cut and paste titles, etc) to 741
(seven hundred and forty one) words.
So his post is 741-500=241 words "overlong".

It is nothing other than straight repetition apart from the last four words
(and so "inappropriate content" according to the Moderators explanation of
that "rule" to me).

And regardless of whether the moderators agree the last four words are:

Part of an ongoing quarrel which is creating an escalation of bad feeling
on the board, and which is detracting from the topic under discussion.

This user is not keeping the dialogue friendly and is using abusive or
otherwise inflammatory remarks.

The post seems designed specifically to anger, annoy or upset other
messageboard user.

It does offend me.

So perhaps that is why it is still on the board.

Or is robert l the moderator?

(368 words)

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From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: Is BewlayBrother A Guardianista? #2
Date: 3 May 2004 17:56:32
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George said:

>> >> "That yet "another" Guardianista has been exposed regurgitating the
party line as though it was yet another "individual" poster adding "their"
voice to the "debate"."

>> "You really are very paranoid Bogush!"

----------------------------------------

Pardon?

Are you saying that the man who cut and pasted loads of unattributed
Guardian articles here wasn't a "Guardianista" ?!?!?!

Or that he was actually the author of those articles (using several
pseudonyms in the Guardian)!?!?!?!?

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From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: Is BewlayBrother A Guardianista? #2
Date: 3 May 2004 13:41:40
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George said,

In an attempt to back up the BewlayBrother, and defend the moderators for
pulling my 20% quote (the normally accepted percentage for a straight
quote), but leaving in the, unattributed, complete articles posted by
BewlayBrother:

----------------------------------------

Bogush - quoting a large chunk of the moderators work posted:

".......Please don't post large chunks of text copied from other sources -
this may be an infringement of copyright, and we are not resourced to check
the validity of what is and is not copyright-free. Short quotes to
illustrate a point are permissible. Please rephrase your message in light
of this, then resubmit it."

So evidently you too are guilty of copying large chunks from elsewhere.

What's the saying about pots & kettles?

----------------------------------------

Yes, what is that saying, George?

And what's the one about glass houses?

And the one about clutching at straws?

I posted including a selective, attributed (writer, date and publication)
20% quote to demonstrate that BewlayBrother was posting an unattributed, unedited, complete cut and paste of an entire article to put my point.

The moderator pulled my post and emailed me quoting my entire post quoting
20% of the article to put his.

I replied, quoting his entire email quoting my entire post quoting 20% of
the article to put mine to him.

I posted my reply quoting his entire (attributed) email quoting my entire
post quoting 20% of the article to put mine to the board.

And your problem with that is?

That yet "another" Guardianista has been exposed regurgitating the party
line as though it was yet another "individual" poster adding "their" voice to the
"debate".

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From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: Is BewlayBrother A Guardianista? #2
Date: 3 May 2004 12:03:15
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Dear Sirs

You have removed my post despite admitting that "Short quotes to illustrate
a point are permissible" when they were around 20% of the article length,
which I understand, is an acceptable percentage to quote, and despite the
fact that you you have allowed the original "contributor" to post the
entire
article, which, despite the fact that I have identified it for you, and
despite the fact that you have removed my post, you have STILL allowed to
remain on the board.

Yours, etc

Mr B J Mann

----------------------------------------

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From: bogush j mann xxx
Newsgroups: xxx
Subject: Is BewleyBrother A Guardianista?
Date: 3 May 2004 10:25:38
Message-ID: xxx


BewleyBrother  said :

re: Nottingham City Police Division. BewlayBrother - 8th post -
30 Apr 2004 13:13

The trouble with politics is that certain ideas, even certain words,
 ...censored..., ready for predictable battle.

In the Thatcher era "freedom," ...censored... sounded like the
weapons of the enemy.

Crime is rather like that. ...censored... contemporary politics:
tough on crime..........


Jonathan  Freidland  said:

Comment

The force is not with us

Crime has risen dramatically in the past half-century - and much of the
blame lies with the police themselves

Jonathan Freedland
Wednesday April 23, 2003
The Guardian

The trouble with politics is that certain ideas, even certain words,
 ...censored..., ready for predictable battle.

In the Thatcher era "freedom," ...censored... sounded like the
weapons of the enemy.

Crime is rather like that. ...censored... contemporary politics:
tough on crime..........

Tee Hee Mr BewdleyBrother you are a funny one aren't you.

Thanks for all of that, it made me smile.

I could cut and post a long reply and make you look silly - but - having
now had an opportunity to review a large number of  "your"  messages
(in full) I'm quite prepared to let you do that all on your own.

 

Note that the last three paragraphs were cut and pasted fromBewlayBrother's post with his name substituted for mine.

 

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From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: A Challenge For Jolly Old Jack
Date: 3 May 2004 12:26:46
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Care to "justify" why the moderators pulled my posts exposing
BewlayBrothers posts to be cut and pastes of Guardian articles because they
contained some copyright material, and yet they have allowed even the
specific posts I identified (complete with thread title, date and time of
posting) as pure plagiarism to remain on the board.

Feel free put that on the back burner for a while if you're still
struggling to justify BewlayBrother's rude insults to me.

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From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: Do George Or The Mods Understand
Date: 8 May 2004 17:52:33
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Jolly Green Giant said:

>> "But these are merely statements of fact. It is fine to post that "the
grass is green", and the "sea is blue". So what's the problem?"

In response to:

>> >> "The big question is:"

>> >> "Why do neither George, nor the Moderators, think that the following
is "potentially libellous":"

>> >> >> "...I only wanted a one word answer to my question ... from Mr
Bogush. That shouldn't have involved all the reams of rant, however,
I should have known better. Bogush J Man is incapable of
simple straight answers to straight questions. He is
incapable of reasoned debate but is very skilled in
irritating people with his long winded replies. I'm sorry I engaged him
in this debate and accept that there's no way I shall ever get an answer
out of him. Truth is he made a stupid statement." ?

These are not

>> "merely statements of fact"

They are not facts at all.

They are insults and "potentially libellous" allegations.

And you have, yourself, further insulted me, and made "potentially
libellous" allegations by asserting that they are: "statements of fact"

>> >> "Or:"

>> >> >> "Bullying Unfortunately Mr Bogush doesn't just keep popping back
to see how things are. What he does is comes back to ridicule and misquote
every time the debate starts to move ..."

Again, further "potentially libellous" accusations.

And again you assert that they are "statements of fact".

>> Just a couple of examples of threads started purely to attack me from
the more recent pages of the Discussion List Index.

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From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: Do George Or The Mods Understand
Date: 8 May 2004 17:18:29
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Jolly Green Giand posted 411 words of cut and paste.

And then said:

>> "Can someone explain what all this letter business is? Who is this
Bernard Georgeda? What does the letter say? I not the title contains the
word 'spinning' which is the favourite word of Bogush J Mann."

Which, as far as I can see, had absolutely nothing to do with the cut and
paste.

Could you please be so kind as to cut out the c-c-c-cut and paste when it
serves no purpose whatsoever.

If you don't know what I mean:

Try actually reading my posts before you attempt to "parody" them.

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From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: Do George Or The Mods Understand
Date: 8 May 2004 12:36:45
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The big question is:

Why do neither George, nor the Moderators, think that the following is
"potentially libellous":

"...I only wanted a one word answer to my question ... from Mr Bogush. That
shouldn't have involved all the reams of rant, however, I should have
known better. BogushJ Mann is incapable of simple straight
answers to straight questions. He is incapabl of reasond
debate but is very skilled in irritating people with his long
winded replies. I'm sorry I engaged him in this debate and accept that
there's no way I shall ever get an answer out of him. Truth is he made
a stupid statement." ?

Or:

"Bullying Unfortunately Mr Bogush doesn't just keep popping back to see
how things are. What he does is comes back to ridicule and misquote every time the debate starts to move ..."

Just a couple of examples of threads started purely to attack me from the
more recent pages of the Discussion List Index.

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Your original message:

From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: Do George Or The Mods Understand
Date: 8 May 2004 12:21:03
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The Libel Laws?

George posts a post:

re: New airport George Painter - 351st post - 7 May 2004 16:34

Which started off by republishing an allegation that:

>> "You do seem intent on the vilification of anyone who opposes your world
view, and that is done by attributing daft opinions to your 'opponents'."

He then alleged:

>> "Mr Mann misquoted me recently and I alerted a moderator."

And that it was a:

>> "potentially libellous posting."

He further alleged:

>> "I was attributed to saying something totally ridiculous on a public
notice board for several hours."

And further alleged:

>> "other posters now refuse to use this board because they don't like
being misquoted."

In what appears to be an attempt at censorship and at influencing the
public service, tax and fee payer funded BBC he went on to threaten:

>> "Next time it happens I fully intend to take legal advice."

>> "I would suggest to the moderators that to avoid getting the
BBC involved in a lawsiut they put mr Mann's postings over to
full moderation. It will obviously be very time consuming checking each of
his many quotes, but if they are not prepared to ban him I see no other
option."

And finished by apparently trying to incite:

>> "Please everyone use the complain button if you see something libellous
or insulting."

(My emphasis).

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He then went on to allege:

>> "Willie - you wrote at 17:25"

>> >> "I would bet £5 that within 6 hours this posting has been seen as too
near the truth for comfort and so gets overtaken by yet more "cut-and-paste
OF cut-and-paste" that it will have slipped onto the previous page and out
of sight"

>> "That seems to be happening!"

>> "Please everyone look back to my important message posted at 16:34 today (7 May) and now being swamped off the board."

See how I look after you George.

I've tried to tidy up the board, and avoid things like the Airport thread
being padded out to over 200 posts by other's endless repetition of proof
that they never even read the posts of mine that they cut and paste and
"respond" to.

But, just for you, I've brought your latest lot of allegations to the top
of the list for you.

Happy?

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Your original message:

From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: Forum Rules
Date: 9 May 2004 15:00:00
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Joly Green Giant said in:

Forum Rules Jolly Green Giant - 171st post - 9 May 2004 12:43

>> "A large number of postings from Bogush J Mann are being removed and for good reason. He has started re-posting them with the message from the
moderators explaining that they were removed."

>> "Kind of makes a mockery of the forum moderation policy doesn't it."

No, what is a mockery is that they leave on the board insult, abuse and
definite libel aimed at myself.

Whilst they remove posts of mine which, while they tell the unpalatable
truth, do not breach the forum rules.

 

Another from three weeks ago that they (someone, back on shift?) has suddenly decided needs to be removed (and what, exactly, for?!?!):

 

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Your original message:

From: bogush j mann
Newsgroups: bbc.forums.england.nottingham
Subject: re: One rule for us........
Date: 18 Apr 2004 21:57:53
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robert l, is it, said:

notice how i keep my postings short?
with just a few lines of spacing.

after all we are restricted to the rules which apply to us.

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Well, robert, reading between the lines I can see a lot of sense in your
post.