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The Day After TomorrowOctober 27 2004 at 3:48 PM | woody (no login) from IP address 81.155.91.137 |
| Has any one bought the two cd set of this film. If they have have they watched the part about global warming. People who watch this will be thinking that it is going to happen, and that car drivers are to blame for most of it.
Watched and couln't beleive what I was hearing. Why don't these people give both sides of the story, not just the one that says global warming is happening. |
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M (no login) 81.153.156.193 | Re: The Day After Tomorrow | October 27 2004, 3:56 PM |
There's definately something going on with global stuff, I'm sat here Freezing, in fact I think I'll get into me car, the heatings much better in there.
Film yep seen it, but to blame everything on motorists ?? suppose it sounds about right. |
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Woody (no login) 81.155.91.137 | Had to add this | October 27 2004, 4:09 PM |
Blair attacked over higher CO2 emissions
Press Association
Wednesday October 27, 2004
Factories and power plants will be able to pour more carbon dioxide - the chief greenhouse gas - into the atmosphere under allowances announced by the government today.
The move, part of the EU emissions trading scheme, was unveiled by the environment secretary, Margaret Beckett, amid complaints from green groups and MPs that the prime minister has bowed to demands from industry at the expense of the environment and the fight against climate change.
The new rules on industrial pollution permits must be submitted to the European commission for approval.
Emissions by UK installations covered by the EU emissions trading scheme for the period 2005-7 are now estimated to be 56.1m tonnes of CO2, 7.6% higher than was the case in April.
The government has been considering how to reflect this increase in emissions from the interim April projections.
Ms Beckett said the government will propose an amendment to the National Allocation Plan, increasing the total number of UK allowances for 2005-7 by 19.8m allowances to 756.1m allowances.
She said this is an increase of less than 3% from the number in the April plan.
The allocation is now 5.2% below final projections of business as usual in the UK compared to the April allocation of 0.7% below business as usual.
Mrs Beckett told a London news conference that the UK is still "on course" to meet its carbon dioxide reduction targets set in the Kyoto Protocol.
But she admitted that since Labour had been in power "although we have seen a reduction in carbon dioxide, it has started to go up again. But that has happened all over the northern hemisphere."
Mrs Beckett said the government is determined to keep on track with its domestic greenhouse gas targets. But the government wanted to make emissions trading a success without damaging industrial competitiveness.
"This decision is good news for tackling climate change. The EU emissions trading scheme is a vital part of our drive to reduce greenhouse gas emissions across Europe.
"The scheme is crucial in encouraging industry to develop more energy-efficient technology and adapt to a lower carbon future.
She said: "The fact of the matter is that we as a government were faced with a genuine and real dilemma. Projections suggested that if we stuck with the original formula, it would have had a devastating effect on our industry. None of us wanted to do that, but all of us wanted to get the emissions trading scheme off the ground."
Defra said the industrial non-generating sectors will continue to receive an allocation based on their needs.
Overall the emissions cap will take the UK beyond its Kyoto commitment and is consistent with its domestic goal of moving towards a 20% reduction in CO2 emissions on 1990 levels by 2010.
A spokesman for Friends of the Earth said: "Margaret Beckett is not the villain here at all. It is Blair and the Department of Trade and Industry, who have failed to put the environment ahead of industry.
The Liberal Democrats' environment spokesman, Norman Baker, condemned the introduction of more generous "pollution permits".
He said: "This is further evidence that Tony Blair will never bite the bullet when it comes to the environment. He always takes the side of the polluters, never the side of the environment."
David Porter, chief executive of the Association of Electricity Producers, said substantial investment was needed to get carbon emissions down.
He said: "We must have an allocation for the generating sector which recognises what the industry emits today and allows time for transition to a lower carbon future."
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/green/story/0,9061,1337279,00.html?gusrc=ticker-103704
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Andy (no login) 81.98.83.178 | Re: The Day After Tomorrow | October 27 2004, 4:26 PM |
They're all stark raving mad. I saw on the local news today that the old CIS Insurance tower in Manchester is to be clad with photo-voltaic cells. This will generate enough power for...
for....
(wait for it.....)
FIFTY HOMES! JEEESUS! That's the way to do it!
And how much power and pollution did it take to make those little cells???
This 'government' needs to stop fannying around with toytown wind-turbines and cow****-power and get building some nice powerful nuclear plants. Just because a thirty-year-old, worn-out, poorly maintained Russian reactor blew up doesn't mean they are all bad. |
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woody (no login) 81.155.91.137 | Re: The Day After Tomorrow | October 27 2004, 4:37 PM |
The reason we are paying such a high price for fuel in this country is for the global warming scenario.
The gov are now letting industry ommit more co2 into the atmosphere. We as car drivers have to pay a higher tax is industry going to have th same sort of tax levied against them. |
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M (no login) 81.153.156.193 | Re: The Day After Tomorrow | October 27 2004, 4:43 PM |
'Strong global demand' boosts BP
Oil giant BP has thanked "strong global demand" for another set of sharply increased profits.
During the third quarter of this year, the company's pro-forma result - which approximates to net profits - was $3.9bn (£2.1bn), up 43% year on year.
High crude prices have helped all oil companies, but BP insisted that the crucial element was a healthy market.
Expensive crude is not an automatic blessing for BP, which relies on refining and marketing.
But the continuing global thirst for products such as petrol and diesel has boosted BP's refinery profit margins; earnings in its marketing business were up 89% year on year.
Shell is expected to announce third-quarter profits of about $4.7bn (£2.6bn)
The forecasts suggest both companies made profits of about $50m (£27m) a day in the three months to September.
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Per Septiv (no login) 195.188.152.14 | Re: The Day After Tomorrow | November 10 2004, 10:44 PM |
".........carbon dioxide - the chief greenhouse gas .........."
Err...no.
The "chief greenouse gas" is water vapour, comprising 97%
CO2 is PART of the remaining 3%
But 90+% of CO2 occurs naturally.
So CO2 is bugger all in the great scheme of things.....
And mankind produces bugger all of bugger all.
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