Welcome to this Forum. It has been set up so that supporters of the Lower Fuel Tax campaign can discuss the ridiculous levels on Fuel tax in this country.
Several people have contacted with with concerns about the future of the fuel protests.
I have today spoken to Ian Jenkin of the PFL he told me that they are in the process of organising a meeting and details will be posted as soon as they become available.
Due to the sheer scale of the FMD problem many committee members have not been able to attend meetings or to be honest even think about the Fuel problem. Many have been caught up in FMD exclusion zones and just carrying on with their businesses has superceded the Fuel protest. Many Fuel protesters have been very badly affected by the FMD problem as much of their work is dependant on farming
It very much depends on where you live on how you see the FMD problem.
Those that are in exclusion Zones are particulary likely to view the situation differently from those who don't.
The PFL meeting will discuss mainly the logistical problems on how to go ahead.
But please be sure the Fuel Tax problem has not gone away and the Fuel Protestors are still here.
Nice to see you again, I'm glad to see that things are moving again as you said the Fuel protesters have not gone away, so lets hope that we can all work together for the fuel protest on the 23rd April.
The Fuel prices are to go up again, yes again, so lets get together and make the protest get the message across,
Why is it that everyone else can organise protests, yet Fuel Protesters don't seem to be capable of organising a piss up in a brewery ????
This is the main reason why the Fuel Protest is dead.
There is no organisation.
Too many Chiefs and not enough Indians.
If you want to bring the Fuel Protests back into the public eye then organise. Talk to one another, advertise ,push the fact that you think there is a problem.
At last years Labour Conference the PFL did not attent or attempt to protest because they were asked not to. Everyone else who had a greavance attended and protested.
Its time to put aside the 15 minutes of fame syndrome and get together to organise a proper protest.
Not just targeting the government but the oil companies as well.
Taximan
Fighting for common sense and fair play.
Not affilliated to any Political Party they are all liars(Allegedly)who promise everything and deliver nothing.
I am starting this protest date to bring to light the TAX & High Fuel Prices which is due to rise AGAIN.
Fuel Tax also goes up as from 14th JUNE, not all garages have ULSP/D you get less mpg & does serious engine damage which is not covered by warranty and is also bad for health & Envioment.
If you are/was supporting the protesters then please join us on the 23rd April for Go-Slows across the UK
then please do e-mail me.
Price of petrol now 79.9 & Diesel at 81.9 more now than what it was the same time last year.
but to be caught up in one caused deliberately by 'Fuel Protestors' is totally unacceptable. It is also a complete waste of fuel. You must be brain dead if you think that this will get you support from the general public. Your campaign was a failure last time and the average motorist will not put up with it again. Normal people have jobs and want to get around without idiots deliberately clogging up the roads.
Try telling that to the councils who halve all the main roads with 24 hour bus lanes (where are the 24 hour buses), and put traffic "calming" measures everywhere, including road humps on main roads so high that the bus routes have to be diverted down back streets to avoid them : - (
if you bothered to look at the news reports beyond the headlines of "fuel prices rise", you would see that the fuel companies are blaming the increases today on the cost of crude. This has nothing to do with the government at all. You may feel that the rate of tax on fuel is too high, but you cannot accuse the government of putting the price up. Its something called a "market economy", which if you remember a few years ago was the watchword of a certain Conservative regime.
If you have a problem with fuel prices going up, complain to the retailers, don't screw up the lives of the general public. I will be in the UK in mid May, Bernadette. If I see you holding up the traffic on your go-slow I would be sorely tempted to take great pleasure in driving into you; hopefully your failure to maintain a reasonable speed will be considered dangerous driving and you will be kept off the roads completely. Look out for a nice shiny Vectra coming up behind you ....
I will be driving within the law, the speed I will be driving at is 40 mph on the motorway & 20 mph on Aroads.
We/I am a peaceful & lawfull protester.
>>>> Bernadette. If I see you holding up the traffic on your go-slow I would be sorely tempted to take great pleasure in driving into you<<<<
Sounds like road rage to me.
I am protesting about two things, the 360% TAX on Fuel & the high prices of petrol & diesel, so for those people to say I do not have support then why is the AA also supporting me & the FSB, & lots of people many of those are members of the public like myself.
What bus service!! not much of one here at all, even if there was I cannot use them.
Just to let you know that I have been informed that there will be on going protests from Monday 23rd
until the G.E on the 7th June, so it could be wise for you to use the public transport during your vist but as I said before,
I am a lawfull peacefull protester.
But I do hope that you enjoy your vist here when you come over to the UK.
<I will be in the UK in mid May, Bernadette. If I see you holding up the traffic on your go-slow I would be sorely tempted to take great pleasure in driving into you;>
If you want to avoid the fuel protesters while you are visiting, why don't you use our wonderfull Public Transport system ?
Or are you another hypocrite, who cannot practice what they preach ????
>>>>Normal people have jobs and want to get around without idiots deliberately clogging up the roads<<<
I am a normal person & not an idiot either.
Traffic jams brought on by those people who could maybe use Trains, Express Buses, Car Sharing, but to name a few.
How about those people that cut through housing estates just to get home quicker to avoid the rush hour traffic!!
Thats when we/I have to think of road safety being on the Residents Association Committee, but maybe that's something you dont have to worry about really but I do.
and as I said before uneconomical. The people involved in this 'on going' go slow, do they have jobs? Haven't they anything better to do? What support do they think they will get from a 40 tonner driver coming to the end of his shift? If fuel is so expensive why are they driving around wasting it?
As Genevois said earlier, keep a good look out in your rear view mirror (its that thing in the middle of your windscreen that you look in to put your make-up on) I could be in the 40 tonner coming up behind you...FAST
That is the lawfull min speed I can do so I am doing that.
Yes we/us/I do have jobs and they are also doing that & I can asure you Dave that you may not even like my job,
& as for 40 Tonnes+ coming up behind me, that does not worry me abit I can asure you, I do know what my rear veiw mirror is for, not putting on make-up thats for one, also I would not be breaking the law with road rage plus I can drive in the middle lane doing 56mph & not be breaking the law.
The fact is I know hundreds of people and they are supporting the fuel protest which is about Fuel Tax & Fuel Prices.
If you dont wish to get caught up in the fuel protest choose another route or public transport or how about feight on to the trains, I bet people would start moaning then coz of train journeys taking longer coz of more traffic on the rail.
BTW have you not heard, there is going to be another tax brought in, Passenger Tax for those people that fly into the EU & POSS TAX ON AVIATION FUEL
As I have said before the protest us going to be done peacefully & lawfully, the choice is yours on which route you may wish to take that day.
"What bus service!! not much of one here at all, even if there was I cannot use them."
I don't know about your particular circumstances Bernie, but I understand that the bus services in Milton Keynes are excellent - not to mention the extensive network of cycle routes that were designed in to the fabric of the city.
The bus service in Milton Keynes is no good at all, they over charge, no seat belts for kids, the speed humps cause more trouble for your back, no late nite bus services unsafe for children.
The cycle routes are dangerous for all to use, underpasses are not safe, crime figures in Milton Keynes IS very high.
I do not let my children use the redway in Milton Keynes.
Like I said, Bernie, i'm not really aware of your personal circumstances. I know that Milton Keynes has dedicated cycle routes coming out of it's ears. If the crime is so bad that you can't use them - even in daylight - then I apologise for suggesting it.
I do happen to know someone who lives in MK who has told me that the buses are excellent but perhaps this isn't the case for everyone who lives there.
If they are too expensive (i.e. more expensive than running a car) then doesn't that raise other questions about the price of fuel? What affect would cutting fuel duty have on public transport seeing as you find running a car cheaper already? Wouldn't making fuel cheaper seriously undermine it's existance?
And as we've discussed before they cost thousands per hump (that's installation costs, not the £millions in vehicle, occupant, structural and environmental damage, plus congestion and fuel costs).
Hmmmmmmmmm, so why can't the council afford to cut fares, police subways, have decent schools........................
<I could be in the 40 tonner coming up behind you...FAST>
Dave, if you are in a 40 tonner, your truck should be limited to 56mph, and not be going "FAST" (Unless you are running illegally). Therefore comming up behind someone doing 40 shouldn't be a problem.
