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URGENT CALL re FMD

August 6 2001 at 7:59 PM
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FMD - calling all interested parties - if you wish to see the culling of healthy livestock stopped - FFA are planning direct action very shortly. If you wish to help stop this, please contact secretary@farmersforaction.fsnet.co.uk asap.

 
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T'Payer
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Food for thought

August 7 2001, 7:11 PM 

http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=87155


 
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Merc
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If That Were So.......

August 8 2001, 3:45 PM 

Wouldn't we ALL be Farmers ??????

And Ferodo, WHY won't the Gummint allow an enquiry as to how it happened ??? Scared of that Professors' "opinion" ??
"Quote from Dr Harash Narang, who has spent 30 years in public health laboratories and who is a consultant in the private sector, “the strain of virus which has devastated British livestock is not active in any part of the world and could only have come from a UK laboratory”.


Ananova :
Farmer defends foot-and-mouth pay-out

A North Yorkshire farmer who received £700,000 in foot-and-mouth compensation has defended the pay-out.

Michael Wallbank, from Skipton, said he believed it was a "fair" amount.

He says the cash will replace his herd of 449 cattle and recoup the money he has spent on them over the years.

"It is, in relation to what we owned, probably fair compensation," he told the BBC.

"Over the last eight years we have spent £630,000 on milk water and we have buildings that house those 449 cattle that have cost, over the years, in excess of £400,000 to build.

"So anybody who is saying that we have been over-the-top compensated for the size of our business is wrong."

Mr Wallbank said he would "hopefully" rebuild his business but claimed it could take a long time.

"If the Government allows us to finish cleaning up in the not too distant future and then we are allowed to use some of their advice, which they are recommending, five free days advice on how to look to the future, we will definitely try to restock."

National Farmers Union deputy director general Ian Gardiner said farmers compensated by the Government were not "foot-and-mouth millionaires".

"They have received compensation for the loss of their animals and in the vast majority of cases that compensation will be spent on more animals, as soon as they can restock their farms."

Story filed: 11:29 Sunday 5th August 2001


 
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genevois
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Thick or just plain stupid ?

August 9 2001, 8:56 AM 

So the farmer quoted above thinks that his compensation should cover the investment he made in infrastructure as well as the actual cost of his stock ? In what other business would you be compensated for assets that you HAVEN'T lost ? Why should the tax payer be handing out money to a farmer to reimburse him for the business investments that he made years ago.

If he had any sense at all he would have made those investments based on a business plan that would have shown him making a profit after a certain period of time - so now he gets to keep those profits and gets compensated as well ?? So what if he made a big investment at the beginning - if he got his calculations wrong and didn't make the profit he expected, then that is his problem and not the taxpayers.

Its like a factory owner who has had his stock stolen claiming in his insurance for the costs of the factory, the machinery, the fixtures and fittings, the signage etc. Ludicrous.

I hope that the fraud allegations are proven and the greed of the farming industry is blown wide open. Then people can carry on buying imported produce, which is much cheaper, probably much less harmful to your health, and produced in conditions no different from those in the UK. And we'll see another nail in the coffin of the fat farmers.

 
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Merc
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Thick or just plain stupid ?

August 9 2001, 11:19 PM 

Think that just about sums you up Gennie.

HAVEN'T lost ????

errrrrr are we talking about the thousands of Murdered
ones here ? or,,,,

"WHY won't the Gummint allow an enquiry as to HOW it happened ??? Scared of what............TEST TUBES ??"

"Then people can carry on buying imported produce, which is much cheaper, probably much less harmful to your health " ( Yawn )> like they havn't got infected animals that are being imported RIGHT NOW.

I dearly hope you ate one for your tea tonight.

Fat farmers ??? You base your opinion on ONE you saw one the telly ???? Sorry *.* !!!!!!!



 
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schwinn
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Poor old Vec

August 10 2001, 9:10 AM 

Poor old Vec

Obviously Genevois' point went right over his head -

Comes from living life a 200 mph I suppose

 
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genevois
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Just to help poor old Merc

August 10 2001, 4:12 PM 

Read carefully. Farmer Wallbank claims that his compensation money is to reimburse him for the £630,000 spent on milk and water and the buildings that have cost in excess of £400,000 to build. No mention of any dead animals here, Merc. Did all his buildings have to be demolished as a result of F&M ? And what exactly has having his stock destroyed as a result of catching a disease caused by poor farming practices have to do with his milk bill ???

And I have yet to see any malnourished farmers. And since malnutrition in the developed world takes a while to set in, any farmer who really is at that stage is a fool for not getting out of the business sooner. I guess they were just waiting for a nice disease crisis to come along, so they could cash in on the taxpayer's money.

 
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T'Payer
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More food for thought

August 12 2001, 9:51 AM 

http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=88189

 
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