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End Enterprise
by eRIK
Well it looks like the MEdia might be on Our side now the U.S is targetting them..... Maybe not. Anyone see that Propaganda Rubbish on Foreign Correspondent? It was a collage of all of the War Footage and pseudonews we've seen already. How stupid do they think we are? It took a while but we've lost the ABC. We still have SBS which they cant touch because it's gone commercial...
We need trek now more than ever and Ricks fucked it. Could it be deliberate? They know trek inspires millions around the world. For Whatever reason the only Drama show that was on our side has been stolen from us. END ENTERPRISE NOW! IT HAS BECOME A CRUEL JOKE AND IT'S INSULTING.
Posted on Apr 8, 2003, 10:17 PM from IP address 63.12.15.133
Seriously now, I'm going to talk trek (wipes a tear) may she rest in peace.
Trek'll come back in a big way. Berman will one day be gone. People who remember what trek was will revive it in one form or another. If it's not trek. It'll certainly be more based on trek than enterprise claims in it's .... eeeeerrrrghhhhhhh ..... opening credits.
But if they really want to make a good trek film they'll consentrate more on how big it is both inside and out. How overpowering the technological possibilities in reality are. Not just super phase inverters that can alter you're skin look like it has putty on it.... although that's pretty cool. No I mean bending actual light particles t refocus the energy of light as a tool for something or other....
Yeah, well ... that's all. So then, this may be the last post. I guess I'll come back one day... but thing is.............
I.....
uhhh.......
I don't trust this place. It's under some kind of ......Scrutiny....... now.
There are viewers.
Benno out!
Posted on Apr 8, 2003, 5:58 AM from IP address 63.60.212.213
I thought I'd reply - cos I ocassionally post at Jwfan.net, and I always get completely ignored. Every single time - even when I write stuff that they might find interesting -- it's like I'm nobody.
Hey, just for your information Jwfan.net, I'm somebody. And I always thought Goldsmith was a better composer too.
Yeah? Well screw you.
Posted on Apr 11, 2003, 2:27 AM from IP address 62.64.206.52
You know it can be frustraiting watching the war and being pretty much powerless. I've been thinking about what We can do as individuals to change the world and I'm not talking about Marching. It's important but We can do so much more. are you listening? WE CAN END THE WAR RIGHT NOW IF WE.......................... assasinatE George Bush. You might think it takes more than a presidential assassination to stop a War or topple a Government
but take heart. this is the same logic the Bush Administration uses with Iraq.
If theres a border you are not supposed to cross with this talkback thingemajigg I think this is probably it.... I should probably add that I do not advocate killing george W Bush because of this post. you'll get me into trouble....
Post under for your top ten politicians who should be Assassinated. I'll get you started.
Heres a suggestion
1. GEorge bush
PPS... Human Life is Sacred. dont kill any one because of this post. Your personal business is your personal business though....
Posted on Apr 6, 2003, 11:06 AM from IP address 63.12.14.242
While some might find your ideas controversial I think they are fairly close to the mark. My associates and I are busy at work on this very issue. will keep you posted.
Posted on Apr 6, 2003, 11:27 AM from IP address 63.12.14.242
I don't advocate killing anyone... certainly not Georgy boy. I mean the man may be sending us all to a very nasty end, but I've never seen the man as anything more thana puppet for hidden powers. But that said, as president he shouldn't be killed, he should just be sacked.
But while watching the moon landing fakery the other night one thing really became clear to me... Donald Rumsfeld had bas been working in the white house as an advisor since Nixon... surely this man actually has more power than the president, and if he doesn't it sure as hell looks like he has a better job.
This then leads me to the discussion of how these men are arguing Saddam should be ousted bcause they are not democratic and that they are a family mafia... Well shit, from the looks of it There's been a bush in power since regan, and rumsfeld there before that... this just makes me think that the Free vote of the people is all a sham.
Oh well, who am I to argue?
Actually, saw a funny billboard in the city. 'No war for oil... don't believe the bushit" I thought it was a typo!
Posted on Apr 6, 2003, 4:30 PM from IP address 63.12.130.187
You know you should always look at peoples I.P address. It's mildly illegal to incite people to kill the president. I think it's about a $5000 fine. Has anyone read Downsize this by Michael Moore? Clinton had death threats broadcasted, actually inciting people to kill him and absolutely nothing was done. Things are different now I suspect If only because there is a Republican in the Whitehouse. Anyway the whole thing.... There are lines you cant cross without presuming you're under surveillance weather your in the Mainstream or Internet Media or within earshot of some racist who wants to turn you into the FBI or Asio. I think people are Paranoid (Yes this means you Benno). The powers that be know that everybody talks about getting rid of certain world leaders, and they know its idle bullshit. So we're under surveillance. Who the hell cares?
Posted on Apr 8, 2003, 7:05 AM from IP address 63.12.14.55
watch the cutting edge in Australia SBS on tuesday. The American and Russian governments acknowledge the Moonlanding was a hoax. COntains interviews with many involved who were politicians at the time. This doesnt look like that rubbish documenary that was recently on channel ten. it looks fairly polished.
Gee I wonder if the April 1st Air Date is significant.
If this thing is believed it will make people realise how stupid they are. Maybe they'll stop watching CNN.
Posted on Mar 30, 2003, 9:44 AM from IP address 63.12.14.198
Very old news.... but a good programe non the less
by Benno
I have the special order DVD that shows actual unedited footage proving the faking. Magnificent stuff. America seems to be a culture built on Bullshit. But maybe that's too harsh. The place itself is just one big hollywood movie.
Posted on Apr 1, 2003, 5:41 PM from IP address 63.60.210.218
The April 1st date is significant because it is April fools day. I probabbly didnt make it clear that I dont actually think the moonlanding is a hoax. if if the doc was done realistically (which it wasnt) people would probably report to talkback radio, at some point they'd find out the thing was an april fools hoax and maybe they'd never express their opinion in public again. This could only be a good thing. I've watched a few enterprizes. How can you have a science fiction show that isnt about anything?
If you havent allready, I suggest you watch the office.
Posted on Apr 3, 2003, 8:46 PM from IP address 63.12.15.179
Enterprise is more than a show about nothing - it's a show about stuff that's never going to matter anyway. But isn't that in itself something?
Benno, I think you should cut your losses on this one - how about starting your own theory, its proably much more fun.
Posted on Apr 4, 2003, 11:21 PM from IP address 62.64.209.87
Did you watch all the way to thru the end credits????
A hoax of a hoax!!! What fun!!!
There was a rather magnificent essay posted on here some time ago on the so called "hoax".
And to all you pimply faced geeks out there who think they know fucking everything about whats going on out there (reptile control? Secret Societies? - what a fucking joke!)I say get yourself a fucking life. People love to simplify a debate. Polls like to polarise a question. But there is no right and wrong in the world, just shades of grey. To all you cowards out there who submit banal pieces and quote trash you do so without acknowledging one simple fact. YOU DON'T KNOW THE TRUTH - at least the whole truth - about what's going on in Iraq and in the cabinet rooms of a myriad of countries around the world. You are naieve and ill-educated.
My contribution to a solution is based on my belief that the world cannot exist peacefully when democracies live alongside autocracies. The accountability of the former to its people puts them at a major disadvantage when the latter can do as it pleases. In the current case nobody is holding Saddam accountable, yet Western pollies are the ones who are doing wrong and may lose their jobs! As one who values democracy, I say we rid the world of Saddam, as quickly and cleanly as possible.
Posted on Apr 1, 2003, 6:19 PM from IP address 152.91.9.49
before this programe the moon landing was a hoax... and after this programe I'm still thinking the moon landing was a hoax. Goofy end credits or none. The evidence is undeniable.
Posted on Apr 2, 2003, 6:29 AM from IP address 210.84.87.16
What evidence? That stupid flag?
It had a rod in it for christ sake. and that little shaking bit? ;Solar flares? dust? You dont need wind to blow a flag around.
Another so called bit of evidence is that shadows are cast in different directions. There were many light sources including the ship. It was a propaganda piece so they needed good lighting.
The main reason The moonlanding was not a hoax?
The U.S.S.R would never be complicit in an American conspiracy of such magnitude.
Whi is the hoax line championed by Religious fanatics?
Posted on Apr 3, 2003, 9:04 PM from IP address 63.12.15.179
Hey that Fox Doc is on again. Do you think the Republicans are pushing this thing to justify a cut in NASas budget? I don't either.
Someone came to the door today and asked if I walk with Jesus. I said I'd never thought of it that way so I agreed to go along to church. If you're interested you can purchase the bible at all good Bookstores or you can borrow it for free from the Library. On another note I agree with Curio. Arabs cant seem to find democracy on their own or if they do they vote for Liberals. We cant have them undermining our freedoms by nationalising great portions of their economy and we cant have dictatorships. It is our duty to give them our freedom. We are proud to live under George W. ISnt this good enough for them? We're offering our democracy for free.
Posted on Apr 5, 2003, 1:26 AM from IP address 63.12.14.171
I agree we must kill the Arabs and take their oil. They'd only set it on fire anyway. Give it to Isreal. They dont have any. I have been reading about the second coming but first the world has to end. Does anoyone have anyideas of how to accomplish this with about 10000
Posted on Apr 5, 2003, 1:40 AM from IP address 63.12.14.171
There's never any1 in chat. It's such a shame really.
I feel that some1 should say something about the war but I guess every1 at the moment has decided to silently contemplate all these weighty issues - no1 really knows what's going on do they?
Posted on Mar 26, 2003, 5:23 AM from IP address 62.64.224.155
Well, I could talk war longer then the actual thing takes place... I could go back to the amazingly informed David icke who said of Geroge Bush Jr. trying to get in as president: Don't be surprised if this man gets in even if he looses the vote, and then don't be surprised if you see events unfold which lead us to the third world war. The ultimate goal of these men is a culling of the population, and a one world government which will see them as the ultimate leaders.
Well... September 11 was the defining moment which made me start to think more seriously on his other talks on aliens controlling the human race.
I'm somewhat discusted by all of this. Mostly that while America was starting up it's propaganda to try and get this war going.... the only men on it were Bush and blair. Bush will have you believe the American people are behind him all the way... the thinking person will understand that the reason this war took so long to get going was that there was so much opposition to his ideals. Meanwhile, as the whole world joins together to protest the world, Australia is there watching events unfold with the thought, what the fuck is going on with these crazy people.... there goes out head honcho HoWARd 'Yeah bush, we're all with you." Well, the australian people just kinda stepped back, forming this big circle around then man and collectively yelled "What?"
Right now, We have protests tuning violent, Media in Iraq pointing out that this is a messy war and the troops morale is right down, and the arab world calling for the burning of America.... All the while with the Leaders of the FREE world claiming that all is going well, Saddam will be gone soon, and that they will bring peace and democracy to everyone.
Fair go twangers. Peace and democracy are the last things this world farewelled 2 years ago when all this bullshit began.
I find it somewhat funny watching Rumsfeld calling foul because american troops have been captured by the 'Enemy'. This from the instigator of an agressive invasion and the man who gives the orders over the treatment of thousands of captured afgany - tied up and starved and subjected to 'human' torture.
As for America talking of legal requirements of other governments, the fucking nerve!
But I'm now spent of what to talk about. I think this is the hope of the americans, that the world will get so confused over everything. I mean, I follow the news everyday, from lots of sources and even I'm starting to loose my mind on coherancy.
But enough from me, what do you think.
Posted on Mar 28, 2003, 12:55 AM from IP address 63.60.210.52
Politics everywhere is just the same. Morons come up with indefensible policies, dend them with illogic, and manage to gain a scant majority of voters in their constituency. And don't forget about the corruption. There's always money in it.
This, of course, describes Bush's War, with the kickbacks naturally flowing in the form of black gold stock...
But in Minot, North Dakota, public tax dollars are wasted buying buildings for companies that will pay slave wages to workers -- and of course kickbacks to the mayor through interest buy-downs that go straight into his bank's pockets.
Damned Politicians.
Damned Republicans.
Posted on Mar 28, 2003, 10:44 PM from IP address 216.221.104.138
What I've become aware of in the conflict, as if we didn't know already, is how difficult is it to get the truth. Now, I know all the cliches - truth is the first casualty etc - but this is more - its about contending with the sheer complexity of all this, and and of the whole world for that matter - because when there's such incohenrency, settling for the truth is likely to be about simply burying your head in the sand.
The problem I think we face, in this globalised, anti-personnal world, is to not fall prey to apathy, because a bunch of disinterested, ______ is what the system as it is wants us to be - not the politicans themselves I think, who are part of all this with the rest of us./
But the alternative is uncertain - because nothing is. But those that are so blessed with conviction and certainty are the ones that get things done - so all the rest of us can do is ..to trya dn understand>? (bit of a cop out)
In a way, we see that with this war - and how we react to it - do we watch all the coverage, which quickly becomes slightly ghoulish - or else turn off all the media sources and settle for ingnorance.
Personally I blame the Austrailians - their relaxed manner and carefree attitude has plunged this planet into a conflict that threatens to destroy us all.
Posted on Mar 29, 2003, 1:10 AM from IP address 62.64.218.26
There was a news story after the bali bombing that a Muslim fundamentalist wanted to create a Muslim state within Australia. Australians went crazy. Its interesting to note that this is pretty much the dilema that Iraq is in with the Kurds who want their own state in Iraq, Turkey, Syria. In the Iran/ Iraq war the Iraqi Kurds sided with Iran. This is Treason. the Kurds are the Iraqi citizens that Sadam is guilty of using chemical weapons on. In America the kurds would get the death penalty. Given the circumstances couldn't Saddam have been justified in taking these measures? Please correct me if you see a flaw in my reasoning.
Posted on Mar 30, 2003, 9:22 AM from IP address 63.12.14.198
Someone will use a nuclear bomb. Whether it's north korea under threat from America to disarm, but they said in a recent statement that they will not disarm and face the same miserable fate as iraq, or whether it's America dropping one on North Korea and blaming it on one of theirs going off... but then, so many nuclear countries are under threat from bush right now... it'll only take 1 to go off in the US for an enormous retaliation with out any thought.
Hell, even the us might get bored with iraq because they can't hold down the country after all. They can't even hold the cities they've already taken, They know they can't take Baghdad without huge losses.
In anycase, something big is gunna happen very soon.
In the meantime, Here's some snaps of the iraqi's cheering their liberation
The above links to the best thing I've read on the web ever...
Like Oliver Stones JFK it reminds us of disturbing facts and expands on them with likely possibilities...
It strikes me that that site and others like it employ the same sort of methods that we've been having from the Bush administration - if one approach doesn't work then you move onto another, and if that doesn't work, move on to the next. And essentially it comes down to piling in one dubious arguement after another, and relying on the sheer volume of arguements in order to convince - clouding your audiences minds with spurious detail,
confusing your audience into reaching the 'truth'. In fact this ghost rider site makes a point of it - it's the whole basis of their arguement.
Well we all do it I suppose, so who can complain? And at the same time it's quite easy to build a sort of coherent reality around what we want to belive in - it's almost second nature to us.
And so we get to the War. Does any1 want to follow that 1 up? Don't tell me you've lost interest already?
Posted on Mar 20, 2003, 2:53 AM from IP address 62.64.221.124