Star Trek 10 aka Nemesis

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:(

by Erik

Goodbye forever!

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:)

by Benno

forever is such a long time.

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Ah, promises, promises

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How quickly they leave around here...

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Did you hear?

by Curio

There's still a bright spot on the horizon for Star Trek fans.


Earlier this week, Variety reported that scribe Erik Jendresen (Band of Brothers) has been hired to pen the script for Star Trek XI, the latest installment in the long-running sci-fi franchise.


The project was reportedly shelved in January, but production is apparently back in motion, though Paramount has not yet set a release date for the film, which is rumored to focus on the Romulan War, which took place before the original series.








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Yeah, it's a hard on

by Queasly

Is it a good thing thatwe may get another great trek film, and perhaps some sort of completeion to the Enterprise story (although, see my other post for a nnother twist to the tale) -or is it fucging incredible that Berman is still there, putting foward projects like some demented archetect of despair?
Couldn't believe it tbh when I read this - but with some big-hitter producers things might be different. Some break huh. And they'll prob do an anniversary series next year and things will be back to normal.

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What??

by Benno

We all know where star trek needs to head, and thats to a galaxy far far away. I know what you're thinking. The Enterprise (insert letter or NX here) up against an imperial star destroyer. Actually cometo think of it, would the Enterprise even go up against a star destroyer. I mean, who's to say that We of the 24th century even disagree with the rule of a long time ago. Even if Picard had issues with Vador and the emperor, he's forbidden by both Prime directive and his own moral beliefs of non interfereance with ... uh... the way thing... are....?

So what I'm really trying to say here is that Janeway is the choice here. Now here's a bitch who wont stand for this pissy arm waving throat crushing crap. Plus, she'd go for Han solo ina second, even though she comes accross as someone dryer than the australian outback in april. I say this star wars star trek cross over is crap and it should be the final straw that breaks Bermans back. What a cock sucker.

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Joy at Christs rebirth!

by Catholic Friend.

The Upcoming enterprize Movie could tie in more closely with current trends in space exploration by having the enterprize crash into a mountain... instead of just metaphorically.

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And then what?

by Benno

Have all the crew come marching out to re-populate the Earth? Can you imagine their story after 2000 years of pass down. Who'd believe that shit???

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That is good news.

by Catholic Friend.

Star Trek has many similarities with the Catholic Church. Both offer a message of hope and understanding for mankind in the future.

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Both speak of mystical shit that is impossible with strong independant thought

by Benno

Space, the place where Heaven used to be
These are the voyages, of the Catholic star ship Vatiprise
Her on going mission, to seek out new blood, and unconverted civilizations
To boldly preach the message of the lord, or face the wrath of quantum torpedos!

Haleua!

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Re: Both speak of mystical shit that is impossible with strong independant thought

by Catholic Friend

Strong independent thought? With strong independent thought all we will have is Nihilism.

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I don't know what that is....

by Benno

.... but I think I've just been insulted. Who cares. I've had worse.

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What? Giving up so soon?

by Planet Riker

Nihilism is literally the belief in 'nothing'. Some religious folks suggest if you don't believe in an afterlife then you must believe life is meaningless since you think you cease to exist when you die. Your existence is negated when you die because your experience of it is lost if there is no afterlife. On a larger scale, when the human race ceases to exist at some time in the future, the existence of the human race becomes meaningless since there are no humans left to remember it. If you believe this then the assumption is that you believe in "nothing".

I think this is meant to be an argument suggesting that there must therefore be a point to life - which means a creator and all that. I imagine this is what Tolkien means in "The Lord of the Rings" when Gandalf tells the Ringwraiths to "go back to the Nothingness your Master has prepared for you".

However, there is a certain nobility in wanting to do "the right thing" even if you think there is no "reward" for it. What does Star Trek suggest in this regard? Q lets Picard review part of his life, after all, so the notion of the "worthwhile life" does come up. Fair to say that most science fiction doesn't dwell on religious questions - there are some exceptions but I imagine that in general this isn't quite what most fans are looking for. However, questions like "What Is The Meaning of Life?" imply very strongly that there is a purpose to life and therefore a creator; meaning only that if you ask that question then you are not expecting to find a random indifferent universe with no purpose.

Of course, belief doesn't change reality - believing in a flat Earth won't make the world any less round. Believing in an afterlife won't make it exist if it doesn't. Believing there is no afterlife won't negate the reality of an afterlife if there is one. There are many conundrums of existence not yet explained or disproved by science. What is the nature of consciousness, for example? Are you the same person that you were a second ago? Or is there just a discrete series of "yous" stretching out in a continuum from your birth to your death? Do you in fact have consciousness at all or is it just an illusion caused by a by-product of brain activity? Does time exist in a measurable way or is it an illusion - is the universe is really just a sequence of events from the quantum level up? The more we discover about the physical universe the more its fundamental nature remains elusive - note the disconnect between Relativity and Quantum Mechanics, for example.

The nature of consciousness is not a trite thing. Some people think we will soon be able to build interfaces between the human brain and computers. If you imagine that at some time in the future it will be possible to transfer your "mind" to a machine when your physical body dies then you have to believe that there is indeed some "you" in that brain of yours that can, in fact, be identified, quantified and transferred. It might not turn out to be any more possible than it would be to transfer the contents of a chicken's egg from one egg shell to another (without breaking the egg shells, that is, which would rather defeat the purpose). No doubt it will possible to connect external input into your brain - so that you can experience something beyond the normal range of your senses - and even take output from your brain, for example by recording what you are seeing in real time, but that's not the same thing as uploading "you" into a computer.

In the meantime, keep on trekkin'


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Star Trek.... it's dead jim

by Benno

Enterprise has just been cancelled. Hurrah. Maybe now they can give the series a well diserved break and bring her back to form in a few years. see you all then.

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And it was getting good and all

by Trevor Skuzzbucket

This is really gutting. They'd finally got some writers who were creating the sort of stories that fans wanted to see, that the premise insisted on.. now it's just cut off. With a final cameo from Shatner? No, not even that vain glory.

It's like when I get my.. let's call it my hopes up, and I'm all really jizzed ya know, and I can't wait, only to realise bitter dissapointang, such bitter dissapointment, and I just feel really deflated. That's how I feel with Enterprise right now.

Keep ya fucking catalogue. I'm off to Bangcock!

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Finally someone grew a pair!

by Andy

I hear Enterprise was on the mend, having a good season. For that I feel a little bad for the seven fans who still watch the show, I still haven't gotten over the losses of Angel or Firefly. But then the great classic Star Trek was itself cancelled, so meh.

This needed to happen ages ago. Voyager was only enjoyable as a companion piece to DS9. When the latter ended, the former was alone and shown-up for how bad it was with no sibling to watch over its back and churn out the good quality stuff on its behalf. Nothing really improved when Enterprise came to town, or at least if it did, everyone had already buggered off, disheartened. Stupid crappy burnt out writers with their stupid crappy unoriginal shows and movies!

Oh well. Someone will come along in 10 or so years, fond of his or her favourite childhood series, TNG, and will make some kickass film. Or at the very least, something fresh. Who knows, after 10 (or whatever) years what we'll be hankering for.

And nice to see this place still around. I'm scared saying it but I've been nipping in and out of this place since I was 14. I'm 21 in a couple of months... Eep indeed...

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Enterprise canned. Peace breaks out bewteen Israel and Palestinians

by Queasly

Quelle coincidence?

I think I know which Andy you are dude. And you were always my favourite! But seriously, saying this place is still going is like saying, yiou know., AL@Dd

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Well it's still standing

by Andy

There's about as much enthusiasm in this place as a wet fart, but you know what I mean.

Trek should have been canned when Voyager ended. Fours years of Middle-Eastern violene could have been avoided! It's so simple, why did no-one see it?

And yeah I was the gimp posting film ideas instead of doing coursework. Then they released Nemesis and I killed myself. Or something like that.

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Peace between Israel and Palestine. Charles and Camilla to marry

by Queasly

The gimp posting film ideas instead of doing coursework doesn't really narrow it down.

What did you study at university anyway?

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Charles and Cammy to wed. N Korea declares nuclear intent

by Queasly

Are these guys mad or what:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4252515.stm


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Oh My

by Andy

Well that sounds great. North Korea trying to show its muscle. They don't want to get too narky now or the US will take it upon themselves to rid the world of further troublesome regimes. I can see Bush's list now.

Oh well.

I studied Media Studies and Writing funnily enough. Long story short I've only got a year done and I'm all dropped out, though technically this is my third year. It's funny when you look at it in a certain way! I don't remember much about the film ideas, which may be a good thing!

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Put that on your CV

by Queasly

Never know, 'Dropped out of media studies' might actually work in your favour. As for the film ideas, somes1 got them all on hd anywayyy

No more ST, no more Buffyverse, soon no more SW. You'd think ppl had got bored of it or sinthign.

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It's not all bad...

by Andy

Have you seen the new BSG series? Basically doing everything that Voyager should have done in a nice, exciting, fresh kind of way. I like to think of it as Ron D. Moore sticking his fingers up at Paramount after his experience with Voyager, though it helps that it's well written.

And of course, it's EastEnders' 20th anniversary this week.

crickets chirping

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Quwasly

by Andy! It's short notice, but -

http://enterprise.manusamerica.co.uk/ukrally.htm


See you there.


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Maybe I didn't recoginze you

by Queasly

But it looks like it done the trick. Richard Branson's gonna save Enterprise. Serious;y!

http://www.saveenterprise.com/3m_contribution.htm

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Enterprise blue

by Benno

Personally, i'm holding out hope for Star Gate: Atlantis. Already it's Next Generation meets ds9 meets star gate. I love it! but it's only been 3 episodes. And I missed the 4th. And I do recall getting this excited over Sliders... and star gate sg1. They should just take the plunge and make a new star trek show, only don't call it star trek, but we all know what it is... I don't know why I just said that. On one hand that was enterprise.. andon the other its stargate atlantis. What am I doing here??

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indeed

by Catholic Friend.

But nothing can replace the love of Christ.

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how true

by Benno

Except maybe a couple naked women laying on either side as you suck down a big fat J and long island ice tea. But yeah, Jesus rocks.

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I sense a trend developing here

by Joe Injognito

I was taking a look at enterprize over at amazon.com a few months back and I remember reading review after review comparing trek favorably with survivor which I considered to be a cynical jab at the series. sort of comparing it to the worst show on television. Seems this mysterious benefactor--my moneys on Berman pretending to be Branson-- is doing the same thing.
I agree with the assertion that the best thing about the series is the theme song however.

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The best thing about Enterprise...

by Benno

... is that it's been CANCELLED!!

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WTF

by Preston

First find a Series worthy of renewal.

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Trek 2 and 3

by Benno

I've just watch Trek 2, directors cut. What a champion film. and the extras disk. These guys should be running star trek dagnamit!! Who the hell is this Berman clown?

So the point of this is Trek 3. This film has not aged well!! Sure, the opening, stealing the enterprise and the destruction and eventual resolution are all still in place... but my god, that Genesis planet, that Klingon landing party... talk about cheap arse, knock this out as fast as you can to get us to the good stuff.

Well, the adventure continues, at least.

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Sacrilege

by Erik

The Effects are sufficient to suspend disbelief and anyway crap effects add character*.*.*.* Its true the movie doesnt stand well on its own I always thought of it as the last act of WOK not VH whose music ruined continuity...



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Unused SFX shot from StarTrek the Motion Picture.!.!.!

by Erik




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Unused SFX shot from StarTrek the Motion Picture.!.!.!

by Erik




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What the Hell?

by Erik

That was a waste of half an hour.

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Hope?

by Erik

http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=18860

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Aha!

by Queasly


Judith Reeves-Stevens and Garfield Stevens..... some of the greatest books of our time and they can't even get the name right.

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Its String Time-- Heres a great Review from AICN

by Erik

ALEXANDER review
There are times where I’m truly disgusted at humanity, an alleged majority of my country and this time my fellow critics. The collective shit rained down upon Oliver Stone disgusts me. Nay, it infuriates me.
Before watching ALEXANDER I was expecting a miserable time. The reviews were terrible. But is it really any wonder that a film about a man that dreamt of uniting the world and evolving with every new culture he came in contact with, while also recognizing the beauty and worth of both man and woman as thinkers, fighters and lovers would enrage a majority of folks in a country that seems to tear down those it does not wish to understand. That sees itself as the pinnacle of human history and refuses to acknowledge the history of other vain glorious kingdoms that fell by deeming themselves the be all end all of mankind?
ALEXANDER is a stunning film of visions, ideas, performances and spectacle. A couple of months ago I reviewed Richard Burton’s ALEXANDER THE GREAT in one of my DVD columns. You want to see what a HALF-ASSED version of Alexander’s story looks like… watch that one. Then watch this film and realize this is the best telling of the story of ALEXANDER to be told. That Colin Farrell is vastly superior to Richard Burton in the role – oh, but that’s right… We’re a culture that forgets history, so putting this film in cinematic context… that’s just plum wrong. This film has so much more going on than a movie like TROY, which wasn’t terrible, but wasn’t what it could have been.
The battles in ALEXANDER are not painterly like LORD OF THE RINGS or TROY… These are not clean bloodless battles of videogame moves (left arrow left arrow x x pyramid shape up arrow), rather in this film you’ll see the madness of war. The battle of Gaugamela is explained in the tent ahead of time – but then… then in the actualization of the battle there is genius. Genius in the confusion. You see, there is only one man on that field that understands how it all comes together. There is no satellite – no geo-locators on his and their men. In fact – there’s so much dust in the air, you wonder how friend is differentiated from foe. It is all – merely in the timing, Alexander leads the battle, because only Alexander can see the battle. He and the men directly in his wake are the instruments of the deathblow necessary to wipe clean the enemy before him.
Why do we get no sense of his enemies? That question and even greater the questions that seemingly are at the heart of so many reviewers “confusion” over Alexander’s story not being clearly defined, was he gay or not, what was his relationship with his mother…
Well – Alexander never wrote his story, he did not give him the title “THE GREAT,” that was in the hands of others. In this narrative’s case, Stone left it to Ptolemy (Anthony Hopkins) to tell. Ptolemy did not KNOW the truth about Alexander and Olympias. Ptolemy did not understand the decision to marry Roxane. Ptolemy was a survivor of Alexander’s tale. An old man that realized only too late the true dream that a young leader half his age had envisioned for a world, one that he and his fellow Greeks discarded in their exploitation of the territories they inherited from the age of Alexander. We’re dealing with a man who late in life realizes the failure that he and his fellow Greeks and Macedonians made of Alexander’s triumph.
Ptolemy… the Greeks, the Macedonians… even Alexander did not know the enemy before them. They knew stories and legends. Those hordes of EVIL EASTERNERS were only that to them. It was what Aristotle and Socrates taught them. It is what Phillip had said. So it was all that was so. The folly of those beneath Alexander was their failure to recognize that they were in fact the barbarians, and that they conquered and fought not for gold and jewels, but to unite the understanding of the known and unknown worlds. To dispel the myths told to them as children and to rip apart the borders between races and religions. To see all men as equals and to forge a better world not only for them, but through the knowledge and wisdom learnt from his conquered enemies… an advancement of themselves by discarding the prejudices based on race, customs, religions and sexuality.
All of this silly snickering and giggles about whether or not Alexander was gay, bi or whatever. Folks… GROW UP! At the time of Alexander there was not even a word to differentiate sex between men and men and men and women. But again – we live in a juvenile culture. This is the period where a great deal of the foundation for the great ideals that this country was built upon. The dreams discarded by ages of Kings and fiefdoms, lost till the formation of this country then, arguably, lost again.
As for those that wanted the graphic portrayal of Alexander’s love for Hephaistion (Jared Leto) – There’s two reasons… Ptolemy did not share that bed. BUT they showed the fantastic love scene between Roxane and Alexander despite that. True. Ultimately, I would say this. Alexander had a harem of 300 women and 3 wives. His bisexual activity is less documented, but is highly suspected and known. This film though is not focused upon his life of silk coated beds, but rather the impression he made upon a man that would still talk of him 40 years later. Had the library of Alexandria not been destroyed – our portrait of the man might have been… well, who can truly say. History has cast shadows and questions upon an era that was wonderfully documented, yet what remains is not necessarily what happened and with who.
Stone focused the film from the perspective of a man that followed and outlived Alexander. A man that saw the man and saw the greatness. This isn’t a first person tale, unfortunately that tome does not exist to adapt from. But what Stone focused on was a Teenage King that grew to conquer the world and leave it at 32. A young man that forced the world to confront the prejudices, ignorance and myths that children believed. This was a time of ancient wonders and feats of legend… and Stone realizes that while humanizing it.
Lastly, I want to deal with Colin Farrell. The key to his character is in Olympia’s dialogue to him as a child. To not hesitate, hesitate and you die. Colin plays Alexander not as a madman, not as a saint. He plays Alexander as a man with a thirst to destroy the mythologies of man and to build histories and civilizations. What madness, if there was any, came not from insanity, but from the slowness of the world around him. The inability of those around him to not see past the obstacles that man’s vanity creates for himself. To just see the world, men and women simply as they were in his eyes. One. There’s a shiver to Colin’s eyes at moments that denotes a quiet intelligence. This film isn’t so much about monologue-ing in-front of masses of men – but rather the connection the men felt for what he led them to accomplish. How he simply saw the field as if blessed. They treated him as a legend in his own time, yet could not blindly follow, nor did he want them to. Farrell conveys his wanderlust wonderfully.
This isn’t a white washed story of simpler times, if anything Stone reveals that truly nothing has really changed. For all the passings of millennia, we’re still the bigoted, short-sighted men and women that couldn’t see what Alexander saw. But then, that’s why he was, “THE GREAT,” and none of us are.
I found the film exceptional. I hope some of you, at least, find the film I saw. But with all art, we take away what we bring with us. Try to leave the prejudices at the door, inside is something greater.

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This stuff is Gold

by Erik

One thing kids like is to be tricked. For instance, I was going to take my little nephew to Disneyland, but instead I drove him to an old burned-out warehouse. "Oh, no," I said. "Disneyland burned down." He cried and cried, but I think that deep down, he thought it was a pretty good joke. I started to drive over to the real Disneyland, but it was getting pretty late.

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I think a swift kick to the nuts woul;ve been simpler

by Queasly

Hmm, in the Enterprise talkback there's a certain chappy by the name of... Kelvington? Couldn't be,

could it?



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Whatever does getting your wet farts in synch mean?

by Queasly

Is this fella seriously suggesting such a state of affairs that 2 ppl would aim to defecate into one another - at the same time? Is that even biologically possible. And whayt coul dit possibly achieve?

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Courting disaster.

by Erik.

Searching the forums for some indication of whatthe hell you are talking about I happened apon an old post By Mark Sealy. What the hell happened to that guy?

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Now that Treks Crap

by Erik

and if the Hype over Enterprize season 3 is undeserved.. You might want to watch the best american shows in history. Its just a shame that the american economy is making money off HBO.. I dont know you might want to watch these on Free to air Or steal the DVDs or something.



http://www.hbo.com/oz/ntrack_para1=leftnav_category0_show12
This things on SBS but watch it from the begginning in the Reruns.

http://www.hbo.com/deadwood/


http://www.fox.com/24/
24 depicts a political utopia and this is made by Fox so you should definitely steal it.

















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kon da ti go natrese

by Brand.

http://www.notam02.no/~hcholm/altlang/

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I'm so confused

by Benno

And moreso than usual. Talking off each other always makes for an interesting conversation. But my original question still remains, has anyone actually been keeping up with Trek. Or do i have to wonder over to another talkback board and watch as trek talk degenerated into pooing talent. Ever go into a restroom after an asian man. They leave footprints on the seat. Facinating.

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Keeping up in trek

by Erik

Ive got to get up for work at five and im sitting here at 1107 waiting for the 1140 screening of Star Trek DS9.
All things considered is probably the best series. Im uncomfortable with Siscos conversion to Prophetism towards the end of the season. This is to Placate religious viewers thats okay but how are we supposed to apply this when Theres no manifestation of "Wormhole aliens" on earth. We can only applythese theological perspectives if God shows up and it turns out he might be a wormhole alien or vice versa.
Trek 11 has got to be DS9/ Enterprize cross over.




Theres a batch or Enterprize season 1reviews over at Amazon.com comparing it favourably with reality tv shows like survivor. Take a look theres about 20 reviews like this.
Season 3 of enterprize is lookig promising anyway.

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Rainbow kisses

by Queasly

A while ago there was nought to talk about - no new films, nothing new in terms of the show, all we were giong to get was what we'd come to expect.
Now however there are new things that take our senses and ask us questions, such as, will we accept this, is a little give-and-take going to lead to a higher appreciation - if we take everything that trek has to offer, the sweet and the pungant, will it remain as good an experience?
We knew what we were being offered before, but it had become bland. Now our choice has become not whether or not to taste, but whether to swallow a strange concoction that trek is now serving up to us, with no idea what it'll be like. A true choice, to accept that 1 moment of unknowability - a moment that may last a good while indeed, if a new taste is interesting enough.
But... I guess what I'm trying to say is, this requires a part of ourselves - that we offer tgo trek an element of ourselves, so that it may be returned back unto us, but mixed together with what trek has produced, which in turn was prompted by us! But please, not as some distended intellectual apprasial - this process of intermingling must be a product, an extention of our life-force, our *very* being - fed back to us by trek, who gave us our life back.

And so, we learn that the only experiences worth knowing, are those out of our control.

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Bravo!

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Thanks for going from mango ice cream to rocky road. no really, it taste great. If you were my brother (Benno 2) then trek is more like an escort agency. Started with that nice fine round body we so eagerly associate with our mothers, to a slightly leaner more adventurous light brunette/redhead, then to a more buxom angelina joliesk type, followed by a replacement that no so much takes your fancy as the last three, but still - she swallows and feels good so who's complaining ... but then.... they all retired. there's a whole new catalogue. they're all marvelous in their own right, but their just not who you remember - and they all look the same. and some have plastic work done. you think one may be a guy. Time to find a new form of entertainment.

PS. I have never paid for it! Only the movies. and the videos. damnit, trek bled me dry!

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I really thought I was being metaphorical. dot dot dot

by Queasly

But turning to the pornification of modern society - it does sometimes seem more and more likely that the world we know won't expand out in a wonderful sphere of increasing wonder and knowledge - but contract down into small clumps, then individuals, and we'll eventually become completely atomised, individual points of thought with nothing to reference ourselves by - we're incr given what we want, and so we want more, but only because we're told we do! - really, conversely, our desires are becoming incr limited.
. Because it's a one-way process, in which we think we're having an effect by 'experiencing' the world around us, but of course we're not.

But which came first? The world of porn, or the porn of the world?



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But also , and incidentally -

by Queasly

Generations SE is out - with a few missing scenes, like the shuttle shot, with Picard and Geordi.

And Season 4with the R-S's looks most promising. That Katra arc was most favourably recieved. It could be the best 3-parter trek's ever made. Damn.. now everythig I type seems rude: )

Knobnobnobnobnbnobnobonbnbob

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Shit.

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http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_press&Number=293175117#Post293175117

"Bush's Treasury Dept. has made the curious decision to take freedom down another notch by requiring that works by dissident writers in countries under U.S. sanctions obtain a license from the U.S. government prior to publication."

Dissident countries? I think that might mean all of them.

Patriot Act 2.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/patriot2_hitler_powers_bush.htm

SECTION 102 states clearly that any information
gathering, regardless of whether or not those
activities are illegal, can be considered to be
clandestine intelligence activities for a foreign
power. This makes news gathering illegal.

SECTION 103 allows the Federal government to use
wartime martial law powers domestically and
internationally without Congress declaring that a
state of war exists.

SECTION 403 expands the definition of weapons of mass
destruction to include any activity that affects
interstate or foreign commerce.
etc etc. Check the site.

Im no economist but do you think this might have something to do with the declining dolar?

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Am I getting synical or have we entered some sort of Darkage?

by Benno

No don't let those fucks get the better of you. I'll tell you all something that no one will ever read. Not straight away anyhoo. Star Trek was the shit! Anyone seen any thing Recent on Star Trek? I aint seen shit!

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Hey Friends! Star Trek is inside us all.

by Erik.

Heres an idea inspired by the Hirogen You can Make your own Star Trek by exterminating Humanity then making your own paper mache Crew from whatevers left. Body organs or Iradiated ashes. and Clag. Whatever.

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See this is why I never come to this place

by Queasly

What the hell is clag? Gonna have to look it up now. Why are the first 2 boxes in yellow? Are questions even relevant in a world like this? esp stupid fugign questions.

It always degenerates into this though. Is it this? is it that ? why does this fck over that so thouroghly - and can more general principles of this and thatness be found? Well yeah they can mister, but just as easily in the bottom of a cup of beer. Down it again. Flip.



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Clag!

by Erik

Remember that glue you used in school that was flour and water?

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Clear Gum

by Benno

I used to scratch out the G and turn it into Clear Cum. I remember i had my very own ralph wiggum... complete with clag eating habbits.

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Untitled

by Joe Incognito.

Does anyone remember that aesops fable where the Hare Blows the Fox' brains out so he is able to think again?

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crossing the neutral zone

by ZDnexus

The Romulans and the Federation have always kept a close watch over their Neutral Zone. So if a Federation Ship enters Romulan space it warns the Romulan empire, likewise if a Romulan ship were to cross Neutral Zone the Federation would be alarmed.
The Enterprise enters Enemy terrritory unescorted - which is bizarre. They Federation could have asked the help of the Klingon Empire for help - as Klingon starships have the ability to be cloaked.
Anything can go wrong when someone is in enemy territory, it is always best to have a huge entourage. The Enterprise is not specifically designed space battles, it meant for exploration 'see out new life and new civilizations' seems to have been trashed.
The most bizarre aspect of the movie is the main villain of the movie is a clone of Captain Picard, of all the officers of Starfleet only Picard is the one who was cloned. What if Picard had died earlier - would any of this had mattered? Two things were running together, Shinzon wants to destroy Earth at the same he is a clone of Picard, what has one got to do with the other?
The Romulans are enemies of the Federation and invasion from Romulans can always be expected, even if the Enterprise is in the Romulan Empire or not. If the invasion takenplace, Romulan ships crossed the Neutral Zone there would have been a war between the Romulans and the Federation, it would also have meant that the Enterprise has been destroyed the Federation and its allies would have fought back the Romulan invasion.
Considering Data's 'death'. How does one know that the real Data went to save Picard and B-4, programmed to save Picard. It is impossible to tell who is who in this movie.
The marines on Enterprise were getting ready to fight Remans whatever happened to them. So many people on the Enterprise were killed, but the senior officers were mourning the 'death' of Data, how ridiculous.
On a final note - does the cast of the The Next Generation own Enterprise? Why can't there different movie stars and more intelligent plots be thought up. Wesley Snipes as the Captain of the Enterprise would interesting and Timothy Dalton as his Romulan counterpart.....oh well if wishes were horses.....


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Crossing my brain

by Benno

Now from a film making standpoint. Why go to all the trouble of a younger actor to play picard when the dude could have played himself in both roles. Data did. Many times.

Would have made it more desperate too. Picard is cloned (From a hair????) and then his growth accelerated for an eventual infiltration of the federation. However the system of government is no longer in place and now Clone Picard is without orders and about to grow old and die in the next few days. Hey presto - there's you're motivation!

Fuck nemesis. Fuck Insurrection. And fuck me for thinking Insurrection is actually not so bad now. But mostly - (Evil vampire whisper) fuck Berman and Logan.

But I'm sure that big day of smoking crack thinking up star trek 10 would have been a memerable event. To bad they're still sitting around smoking crack saying "Geez what were we thinking" Berman's reply is most likely "Nothing is wrong with the last couple Trek movies or shows. It's the fans who are wrong"

Trek should have followed on from FC. and it should have been a romulan film which did indeed have the romulans take advantage of the situation. Therefore the Enterprise would also have to face charges for defying orders to patrol the neutral zone in time of war. Damit! B4 sucks arse. dyou know he was originally called B9. But they changed it... remarkable after someone here (hmmmm, wonder who) expressed that was the name of another robot in another sci-fi tv show from the 60's.

If only we could have made a few more comments. Why am I here?

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My fingers smell

by Percy Fuckbollocks

I'm not being gratuitously outrageous though, so cunt you - no I;m saying that Nemesis has a wiff of something secondhand, well first hand I guess, middle finger perhaps, I'm not pretending to be an expert on thhe subject. There's a trail following this film, or a thin film following this trail.. and it reflects of the lack of creative imagination that is ess for a trek film, shuerly. A reflection - thats what this film amounts to, a non-entity, an impression of a trek film - a retogressive look up where we didn't really need to go - its just going to come back out again now isn't it? Unchanged. Unformed. Undigested.

Unacceptable. This isn't ST! Trek is about a journey to another place, where things change because the new must be accepted to be understood/ And understood to be the smaE! Wither the starship, or the Tree(k)? Plus - my balls are itching. Perhaps a hot chick out there could type something telling me how to scratch em. For what better way to pass the time than to sractch one's own balls - just enough - just.. oh there, scratch my balls Berman, you're diong it all for me, you selfless bastard pimp whore.

Now personally I like Insurrection. It;s just that scene where they both answer to 'Captain' - I can't fathom how that got through... arn't they paying attention to the feelings, and sensations of the loyal trek fans? How many times have they done the 'Captain' routine? Too rough, Berman. But apart from that it gave us something new, if only relatively transparent. But transcendant is as transcendant does I always say. Oh Berman, now you've gone and done it.........

Who wants to see a /=Birth of the Federation film? Hnads up. I said hands up Berman ya fuckwit.

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Crossing my brain, and the neutral zone

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Berman and co don't get it. Recycling and extending classic Trek ideas was great for TWOK or FC, but sucked for Insurrection. I'm surprised we didn't get a film of the episode where Picard gets stuck in the lift with the kids. Some ideas are worth following up, some are barely worth an hour of TV time.

Nemesis was... geez, I dunno, a good idea going nowhere. Like that movie Frakes just did of the Thunderbirds. I hear the South Park guys have just made a real puppet movie. Sounds more kick-ass than anything ST has come up with lately.

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Good News!

by Erik

The Nazis gained control of the Senate without firing a single shot.


Amen!

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I love you Queasly Washer.

by Erik

Well things look pretty hopeless. Its a good thing im an egomaniac. Its time to act. No?

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And you too Benno.

by Erik

My only fear is that by the time people are mad enough well all be fitted with bionic implants or drugged to a numb stupor. V


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...

by Erik

But Im Mad now.

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speaking of being drugged to a numb stupor

by Benno

I love you too Erik!!

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He's dead jim

by Benno

Look at the bright side, Jerry Goldsmith will not be scoring the next Trek film. To bad Berman's still vertical

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By golly, he is, Bones

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http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,14566,00.html

Deader than a bad episode of "Enterprise"

Deader than the box office of "Nemesis".

Incidentally I think I've figured out what was wrong with "Insurrection" and "Nemesis" (yes, they were crap but I've figured out why) and why "First Contact" was good. A lot of it has to do with the fact that FC was about more than just beating the bad guys, it was also about creating the future. The unexpected positive (a little like Star Trek IV) that leaves with you more than you had bargained for; while "Ins" and "Nem" are just about beating the bad guys and nothing more. In those movies nothing is gained at the end, and nothing changes.

It was also a terrible mistake not to have "Ins" follow on from FC - it was as if FC has never happened. Dumb, dumber, dumbest.

I remember now that the best episodes of TNG often involved a change, whether for the better or the worse, rather than just the usual "reset button". Q flipping the Enterprise into the path of the Borg, for example, in "Q Who". And little touches like having Picard keep the flute he'd learned to play in "The Inner Light".



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Four sticks.

by kirE

nothing ever sticks. I dont know. There were some excellent stand alone episodes aswll. I ws looking forward to seeing the enterprize deal with some of the changes to the timeline from FC. Dr Phlox is in a neat denzel washington movie. I cant remember what its called but its okay- ish. kinda fun. Intermission is great too.

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Exciting STARTREK NEWS!

by King of the Wicker People.

TV Drama is old hat. Magic Eye. Thats where the money is. Imagine a Magic eye painting that tells a story. Imagine startrek with Aliens that actually look alien. Imagine an alien born of Fabric, Oil Slick Aliens that are more fantastic than anything in the history of Science Fiction Exclusive aliens that can only be seen by Masters of the Magic Eye. I am confident this will take off especially with Psychadelic Music. Today I have given you the seeds of the Next StarTrek Series. It is now time for you, My brothers and sisters, to take the word to the Streets.

StarTrek 11-



SISCOS ADVENTURES AS A WORMHOLE ALIEN.
THE MAGIC EYE ADVENTURE.







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What is going on?

by Queasly

Oh yeah - some text dissapeared and - good to be back - another word became a key link - long time no see - to some advert linked to that word. Missed you guys already --- but honestly do they really expect us to become the unwitting carriers of their infomation transmission - no wonder I haven't been here, I hate ou guys. New offers on CDs and DVDs at the lowest prices!

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btw, Erik

by Queasly

Thanks for linking me to that Jewish singles in the Washington area ad, much appreciated.

And now, back to business.

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It's a Forum, Jim

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But not as we know it.

Dammit Jim, I'm a webmaster, not a doctor.

Sorry it's 5AM and inspiration is thin.

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Shit

by Benno

I mean. Hi everyone.

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Did ppl hear?

by Percy Fuckbollocks

Shatner got an Emmy, finally got an Emmy!

Funny thing is I just saw him in a commercial, advertising All-bran I think it was. and he was pretty good in that too - playing on the persona a little, but doing it with class.

Hi to anyone whos been here lately.

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Hi.

by Erik

Hello all.

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Yes, I did

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For "The Practice"

His new CD "Has Been" is pretty good too. In a real good way, not just an ironic "so bad it's good way".

He has a larger than life quality that only works for some characters. I like to joke that Shatner shouldn't have played "TJ Hooker" he should have played "Mayor Hooker, "Governor Hooker" or (heh heh) "President Hooker".

Shatner has absolutely stolen the show on "The Practice". Good stuff, Bill.

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Long time no see!

by JTKirk

It's nice to see you're all still posting here. I bet it's been 3 yrs since I've posted here. By the way, I thought Nemesis sucked! Have a good day everybody!

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Same here

by Capt. Covington

Gah. To have to old days back, when the most we had to complain about was Voyager. At least we all still watched it... not like Enterprise...

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Nemesis sucked?

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Nah, Nemesis blew.

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