Alright, those of you who've talked to me over e-mail and AIM of late will know that I'm working on a compendium to help newbies get started and generally make learning about things that have happened before easier.

Anyways, I'd just like to say that there's now a bit online on a temporary site here.

All that's up right now is a section on the base elements, and a catalogue of all the important items we've used.

Anyways, feel free to get in touch with me personally, or by posting to this thread. And please give me feedback, as this thing won't be nearly as good without it.

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Follow the path and raise thy head
For the dawn lay yet ahead

Ok, a couple of things that I wish to comment on and specifically hear what other people think.

First of all, the idea that Time and Space are opposites. From what I've seen they usually get merged together. Their not natural opposites, like darkness/light for example, and theorectially, one can exist without the other. Excal and I already talked over this some, but decided that the best thing to do would be to see what the rest of you thought.

Second, the name Balance for an element. This is the first time I've seen Balanced used as the opposite of Chaos. Everywhere else it's been Law or Order. I've always seen, and thought of balance as the force keeping things equal between darkness/light order/chaos, not as one of those itself. I vote we change it to Law or Order. Actually come to think of it, first time element got brought up it was by Tallpanzer and I. Tallpanzer refered to it as Law, I as order. So there is precident for those names being used.

Krono
"Sanity is relative."

I'll have to agree with the law/order/balance thing. Balance is more a condition, and there is something of a balance between opposing sides--that's what causes all the nasty conflicts, and the bounds between sides at all, in fact. So my vote goes for Order, because law seems, to me, to be more of a thing, more concrete; where order is a modus operandi.

Also, on the point of space/time. This is really gonna impact my character a lot, you'll see why later. Hehe. My personal theory is that time is sort of a parallel to space--or rather, to the three dimensions. Just as height is to width, so either is to time. and depth. and mass. and whatever else. we measure them all, using different instruments, and we can sort of tweak each's effects on objects, but not the actual dimension itself--two inches cannot suddenly become two yards, just as three seconds cannot shift to three hours.

Anyway, these dimensions' neutral statuses, their objective, simple, object-representors, are not capable of having opposites, and are really inadequate candidates for elements in general. If you want to set opposites for them, you get into some really nasty stuff--anti-time, space-compression (not just object compression, this distorts the entire element of reality), anti-energy. Personally, that's WAY too messy for my tastes. Maybe travel within the dimensions is possible, as with teleportation effects sort of 'skipping' across Length, or imprisonment effects causing targets to sort of 'snap' forward in time...but that's another call.

Ever the strange,
Kaisharga

rereads over his previous message
Man, I didn't mean to be so presumptuous! I wonder how long this rp has been going on, if you have sagas I'm sorry it sounded before like i was schoolin' you all, that's just my opinion (clearly, heavily biased towards a certain popular rp system). Feel free to beat the tar out of the newbie now

Hey, don't feel so bad. Most of all this is just the almalgamation of what everybody on here has done before. So you certainly weren't pretentious for stating your opinions. Especially since you haven't been around that long yet to know that those two have become fairly established as elements (Krono being a very definite example of this). Besides, as you can tell, at the very least Krono and I have had some discussion about what the role of everything is, so for us to get annoyed for your doing the same thing would be hypocritical.

As for how long we've been here, the battles and such have been going on for almost a year now. And although I'm not sure how fitting the title of Saga is for what got those titles, there have been some defining moments yes (I'm sure anyone of the old crowd, excepting have at least a few amusing tales from the old days, most of which probably involve SYE or TallPanzer and his flying fortress.). But don't let any of this discourage you. After all, there's still plenty of stories left to tell, and plently of moments left to experience.

Anyways, err, back on topic. I still think that Space and Time should be kept as opposites. If only to continue in the same vein as all the rest. Just like all the rest Space and Time are both flip sides of a coin. Besides which, although the two forces can work together, there's nothing saying that their energies cannot be contradictory. Simply say that they're from different ends of the same spectrum. After all, the more into the timestream one is, it seems the less hold space has on them. So, just like all the other types of magics, they're opposite ends of the same spectrum.

As for balance, I'll make my vote for Order too.

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Follow the path and raise thy head
For the dawn lay yet ahead

Hey, here's an idea. We can send in character profiles to be shown on the page.

Hm, i'm thinking maybe a HTML page with a list of the names, linked to individual profiles, possibly organized by player, might be better--scrolling through some people's novellas of characters can be trying sometimes if you're looking for something in specific

Don't worry, everything is going to be in HTML with appropriate links to everything related to it. The same for every other catagory. The only reason that it's in a txt format right now is because that site is only temporary while everything is worked on and such so that the people here can have a say in things before it goes up. After all, there's going to be quite a few items up there eventually where others here will know more than I will.

As for characters, Section Yea Eighth is working on those. I don't know if he's gonna use the profiles given by the people here or not, but if he doesn't, then I'll go with his unless the person wants to do their own write-up of their char or has something they want adressed.

That's really all there is to say on the subject I can think of right now. If you want to get something about your char to SYE, then you can say it on the forum, or send it to me and I'll relay it.

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Follow the path and raise thy head
For the dawn lay yet ahead

I'll get mine profile on the other thread any day now.

So far I've got myself and I need to add the last char I intend on having on my team.

>:-)

Todays quotes:

Playtime is over!
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Here's to trying...Rhymes with dying.
and
The brothers of evil are no more!

New update at the Compendium

Now featuring actual content in the form of a detailed weapons list and a full TWO page of HTML goodness. (can you spot which one of those items were sarcastic?)

Coming soon, a third page of HTML goodness, and maybe even a detailed listing of armour...

And If You Pre-order Now, Excal Will Throw In Some Ginsu Swordbombs And A "Tickle Me Infinija" Doll!

=Liquid-X=
"Mwua-HA!"

Alright, no new update for the compendium. Although I am still working on it. However, I am gonna say what's going on for it.

First off, I'm not going to be making most of the pages HTML until I have enough stuff ready to go up to make it worthwhile to do so. And once I have enough stuff to make it worthwhile, then I'm just as likely to start work on the permanent compendium with a better web design. So, that's what's going on with the HTML.

Second, after I'm done the section I'm currently working on, then I'm probably going to put items on hold for a little while in order to do a newbie section. I have two reasons for this. One, is that hopefully this will cut down on the number of "I'm new, anyone have any advice" threads. Not that that's a bad thing, but they're basically the same advice being given over again. And second, to give you various different examples of what your character can be along with the cons of any such choice. I figure that part is going to be a bit more necessary as quite a few items are going to be restricted to time travellers from the looks of it, and misplaying a time traveller is going to end with a squad of Time Wraiths hunting you down. So, I figure that I ought to lable beforehand the pros and cons of being a time traveller, demi-god, or any other powerful class that our old group seems to have created (that is, cons other than their char specific ones like Valen's aversion to the word Spoony, or Daryl's over-bearing optimism).

Hopefully, the organisations section will be up soon allowing people to know of some of the various groups they may also like to be a part of. Especially since I'm not doing all of that one...

Anyways, comments as always are welcomed. And no matter how many subscriptions one gets, noone's gettin my Chibi Zel-Excal Doll with real Mask Breaking Action!

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Follow the path and raise thy head
For the dawn lay yet ahead

I plan on sticking around for a little while so if anyone needs me my aim name is meanmrmilfus and my email would be milfus@the-pentagon.com , yes i know there is a notorious hacker named milfus and no, i am not him

Alright everybody, we've got a new Compendium update

Now up, Trasportation stuff. Plus, guest commentary from Liquid-X on quite a few items.

Also in, as mentioned on the site, is two SYE style character profiles. These are pretty good considering all of the info available for them. Granted though, the only two chars done so far are Aosloidion, for whom not that much info has been released, and SYE himself, where Eighth pretty much knows everything anyways. But the impressive part is the presentation which is crisp, professional, and easy on the eyes. Unfortuantly, I can't really show it to everyone because it's a Word document and needs to stay that way because of its formatting, and so it'll stay with me until I have it HTMLized. On the plus side, it seems I have something fun to do while I can't get online...

Excal, pulling out the old HTML tutorials and the stack o' paper.

To the brilliant mind who wrote the Eidolon saga, with its plethora of sub-characters with byzantine backstories:

I hate you
I hate you
I hate you! Grrr! Fire and brimstone, could you have made it any more inscrutable!? Arrrgh! *goes back to trawling the archives....*

Poor SYE. Here, lemme give ya a hug to make you feel better. :chases SYE down and hugs him weather he likies it or now: There, don'tyou feel better now?

Yes, this is spam. But now that I'm actually at the point where I have to figure out what happened in that bit with all the time travelling...

flames

Curse you, SRGPI/Excal/Krono/Tallpanzer/Bob the Cat/anyone and everyone else!!!!!!!!! Arrrgh, I need a drink...but I don't drink...mmm...milk...

SYE your are getting too stressed. Just sit back, relax, and have some milk. And if it gets to be too much, just bug me for help. ^_^ :chases him and gives him another hug to make him feel appercated: Just rember, everyone will be very happy once you figured all this out for us.

Same of Excel and anyone else doing this! Your hard work is appercated!

:Goes off and reads a book before someone calls her a kiss up or something: