Highway 61 closed by Grand Marais

by (Login bordertrail)

Do to flooding, but there is a detour.
http://www.northlandsnewscenter.com/news/iron-range/Flooding-Forces-Highway-61-Closure-153865495.html

Posted on May 25, 2012, 7:59 AM

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Road problems with Highway One detour

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Minnesota Department of Transportation

May 24, 2012

New Tomahawk Road detour for Highway 1 road construction south of Ely in poor condition due to heavy rain

DULUTH, Minn. (3 p.m.) Motorists using the New Tomahawk Road detour for the Highway 1 road construction project south of Ely are advised to take alternate routes until crews can repair deterioration caused by significant rainfall during the past 36 hours, said Minnesota Department of Transportation officials.

The problem area is on 10 miles of the New Tomahawk Road, a US Forest Service Road, which has become badly potholed from the heavy rainfall. Although the road is passable at reduced speeds, MnDOT strongly encourages motorists to use alternate routes between State Highway 61 and Ely, such as Lake County Highway 2 to Forest Highway 11 to St. Louis County Highway 16 to State Highway 135.

Attempts by road crews to keep the New Tomahawk Road in good condition today have not been successful due to the ongoing heavy rain. MnDOT is hopeful that multiple crews will have better results tomorrow if the forecast holds and the rain ceases. The detour will be monitored and repaired as necessary by road graders each day during the upcoming three-day holiday weekend.

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 25, 2012, 3:04 AM

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Guess there is no more fire ban.....

by (Login DRBOBDERRIG)

as long as you guys get things straightened out by late July....
Still don't have a permit yet....can't come to a consensus.
bob

"Those who stop where reason and instinct command never reach the best and highest places of all" Bill Gilbert

Posted on May 25, 2012, 7:15 AM

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Don't wait too long! (eom)

by (Login LynnO)

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 25, 2012, 2:26 PM

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noticing the time you posted.........

by (Login DRBOBDERRIG)

couldn't sleep tonight???

"Those who stop where reason and instinct command never reach the best and highest places of all" Bill Gilbert

Posted on May 25, 2012, 7:23 AM

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Shop opens at 3:30am? eom

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....enjoy every sandwich.

Posted on May 25, 2012, 9:53 AM

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Just still at work... (eom)

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Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 25, 2012, 2:25 PM

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New Tomahawk road is often a problem.

by (Login UncleMoose)

They're always regrading it, but it usually doesn't take long for the ruts and potholes to reappear. A little rain wreaks havoc with it. I keep secretly hoping they'll pave it someday. It's a very useful road for us Babbitt folks.

Posted on May 25, 2012, 12:01 PM

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Back from Ely and Gunflint... My (non canoe) trip report

by Bill/TN (Login Bill-TN)

My wife and I had reason to be in Minneapolis last week, so I thought it would be a great opportunity to show her this part of the world. Not being a camper, she has always been left behind when my son I would go to the "Q", and I thought she would enjoy seeing this incredible place from the comfort of a cabin. As it turned out, she loved it!

We left the twin cities around 9:30AM on Friday with very warm, but otherwise nice weather. The first stop was at the rest area at the southern edge of Duluth on I-35. Absolutely beautiful views from there, and clean restrooms. So beautiful in fact, that we stopped on the way back to MSP yesterday too. A brief stop at Canal Park to visit the Duluth Pack store, which is always worth a stop, and then up the north shore headed to Gunflint Lodge. Duluth has a lot of character, and we both enjoyed our short visit. Lake Superior and the drive up the shore is something everyone should see. It is dramatically beautiful. Had lunch at Betty's Pies around 2PM, and made quick stops at split rock lighthouse and Gooseberry Falls, then finally to Grand Marais. After gassing up and buying a little wine for the cabin, we headed up the Gunflint Trail. Finally arriving at the lodge a little after 5PM, we checked into "Romantic Cabin" #4.

Our cabin was very nice, and sat just a few feet from the shore of Gunflint Lake with a short stroll to the dining area and lodge office. We were registered for a 3 night stay, and were treated very well by the staff there. Very service oriented and friendly people, and the lodge and it's immediate surroundings are beautiful. This was the start of a wonderful few days. Have to wrap this up for now, but will continue this mini (non-canoe) trip report later. Cheers!

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Part Two

by Bill/TN (Login Bill-TN)

So, the first thing we had to do was acclimate. On past canoe trips, I have enjoyed being cut off from cell phones, Internet, TV, etc.. For some reason though, it took about a half day to get into relaxation mode. Once we did, it was total relaxation, and much needed. One thing that was eye opening about this area was just how much acreage was burned in the Ham Lake fire of 2007. It is still a beautiful area, and the threat of fire is always a reality when living in a forest, but it must have been terrifying to see at the time.

Our last night (Sunday, 5/20), we had a bear sighting. We had just returned to our cabin after some good conversations with other guests and staff out on the dock, and it had just turned completely dark. I saw a large shadow just outside our window. It was a sow and two cubs, and they were checking out the lake shore (and apparently, the inside of our cabin). She disappeared after others began to see her and emerged from their cabins to see (along with me, of course).

Monday morning, we departed for Ely. We took highway 1 at Illgen, and headed northwest to the "end of the road". Perfect weather and a non-eventful trip. As we approached Ely, there was a detour around construction that took us off of the highway over toward Babbitt. We finally returned to highway 1, and passed through the area that burned just outside of Ely. The firefighters did an amazing job of quickly containing this fire and protecting this unique and beautiful little town that we love so much. We checked in to our lodgings and rested a bit before meeting some of our CCBB friends for a platy at A Taste of Ely (where Northern Grounds used to be).

The platy was a blast! Cossack, Turtle Tracker, Timberrrgirl, Hoho, David, Uncle Moose, and Wilderness Mama and Papa all came out. Lee and I had previously met Nick, Liddy, and (very briefly) Ruthanne, but the others I only knew from years of interacting on the CCBB and recently on FB. It was a real pleasure to actually meet all of these wonderful people and spend a little time with them. The fact that they were all willing to take time out of their busy lives to enjoy a meal with us was humbling, and made us feel very special. After dinner, we had a chance to see Cossack and Turtle Tracker's property (absolutely beautiful setting) and then visited Wilderness Mama and Papa's home. Their home is a very warm and lovely place, and reflects the beautiful people they are. Needless to say, getting together with these folks was the highlight of the trip for me (other than the several days of alone time with my wife).

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It was a real pleasure to meet you both.

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Bears, Wolves, Gunflint, Ely, Wow! Talk about making the most of your visit!

Posted on May 24, 2012, 1:34 PM

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What he said! [eom]

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Ho Ho

Posted on May 24, 2012, 2:33 PM

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Thanks!

by Bill/TN (Login Bill-TN)

Also glad to be educated about all those vented mounds up there! Guess you wouldn't want to store your root vegetables in there after all.

Posted on May 24, 2012, 2:54 PM

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Thanks Tom!

by Bill/TN (Login Bill-TN)

Yep, a wolf and bears. If we had seen a moose, it would have been the wildlife trifecta! Maybe you can influence your moose pals to show themselves next time. Sorry we missed Heidi, but I hope she enjoyed her trip.

Posted on May 24, 2012, 2:47 PM

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Part Two

by Bill/TN (Login Bill-TN)

So, the first thing we had to do was acclimate. On past canoe trips, I have enjoyed being cut off from cell phones, Internet, TV, etc.. For some reason though, it took about a half day to get into relaxation mode. Once we did, it was total relaxation, and much needed. One thing that was eye opening about this area was just how much acreage was burned in the Ham Lake fire of 2007. It is still a beautiful area, and the threat of fire is always a reality when living in a forest, but it must have been terrifying to see at the time.

Our last night (Sunday, 5/20), we had a bear sighting. We had just returned to our cabin after some good conversations with other guests and staff out on the dock, and it had just turned completely dark. I saw a large shadow just outside our window. It was a sow and two cubs, and they were checking out the lake shore (and apparently, the inside of our cabin). She disappeared after others began to see her and emerged from their cabins to see (along with me, of course).

Monday morning, we departed for Ely. We took highway 1 at Illgen, and headed northwest to the "end of the road". Perfect weather and a non-eventful trip. As we approached Ely, there was a detour around construction that took us off of the highway over toward Babbitt. We finally returned to highway 1, and passed through the area that burned just outside of Ely. The firefighters did an amazing job of quickly containing this fire and protecting this unique and beautiful little town that we love so much. We checked in to our lodgings and rested a bit before meeting some of our CCBB friends for a platy at A Taste of Ely (where Northern Grounds used to be).

The platy was a blast! Cossack, Turtle Tracker, Timberrrgirl, Hoho, David, Uncle Moose, and Wilderness Mama and Papa all came out. Lee and I had previously met Nick, Liddy, and (very briefly) Ruthanne, but the others I only knew from years of interacting on the CCBB and recently on FB. It was a real pleasure to actually meet all of these wonderful people and spend a little time with them. The fact that they were all willing to take time out of their busy lives to enjoy a meal with us was humbling, and made us feel very special. After dinner, we had a chance to see Cossack and Turtle Tracker's property (absolutely beautiful setting) and then visited Wilderness Mama and Papa's home. Their home is a very warm and lovely place, and reflects the beautiful people they are. Needless to say, getting together with these folks was the highlight of the trip for me (other than the several days of alone time with my wife).

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Sorry about all the double posts! (EOM)

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Posted on May 24, 2012, 12:48 PM

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No problem. Each was pretty good, i read them both! eom

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....enjoy every sandwich.

Posted on May 24, 2012, 2:21 PM

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Thanks Howie!

by Bill/TN (Login Bill-TN)

I always value your editorial opinions!

Posted on May 24, 2012, 2:57 PM

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Part 3 (the end)

by Bill/TN (Login Bill-TN)

Sorry for the weird way my posts are coming across. I had most of this section typed, and then it just disappeared. Hopefully, it doesn't show up later as a rogue post. Anyway, here is another try.

Tuesday was spent kicking around Ely, buying silly gifts for friends back home, and visiting the Wolf Center. They are supposed to introduce the 2 new pups to the public today. We were sorry to miss that, but maybe next time! Later, we drove out to Moose Lake. On the way back a wolf crossed the road 50 feet in front of us. Quite a thrill!

Yesterday was for traveling back home to Nashville. We both hated to leave, but we had two dogs and a life to get back to. As we were checking out of our hotel, we ran into Nick, Liddy, Heather, and Marshall, who just happened to be in the lobby after breakfast. It was a great send off, and we were glad to be able to say goodbye in person.

Being a little short on time, we stopped off in Virginia to see if we could find a drive through, or a quick place to get a bite. We found a little bakery and stuffed ourselves with pastries and coffee in the car on the way back to MSP. We enjoyed seeing this place too. A very picturesque town! By the time we got through security, we didn't have time for lunch, so we survived on peanuts until we got back to Nashville at dinner time.

Sorry if this has been off topic, but it WAS about canoe country, and even though it wasn't a wilderness trip it was one of the most relaxing and enjoyable vacations we have ever taken.

Mostly, I want to say thank you to our wonderful CCBB friends for a most enjoyable get together. Really wonderful, wonderful people that I am very proud to call friends.

Posted on May 24, 2012, 1:14 PM

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Almost forgot!

by Bill/TN (Login Bill-TN)

We also stopped in for a few minutes to speak with Lynn at VNO. Always good to see Lynn and John, who have been so helpful on past canoe trips. My son and I are dying to get back up for another wilderness trip, but as often happens in life, his schedule is busy and unpredictable right now so it may have to wait a while. Hopefully, not too long!

Posted on May 24, 2012, 1:25 PM

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Glad you took a little Nashville personality..

by (Login j_stroke)

to get some Ely hospitality. Every year the list of "locals" to hang with gets larger.

Wish I could have been there for that.

Welcome back home.

"So many lakes, so little time"

Posted on May 24, 2012, 4:02 PM

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Missed you Jerry!

by Bill/TN (Login Bill-TN)

You were talked about (in a good way, of course), and missed by all.

Posted on May 24, 2012, 5:23 PM

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always good to be talked about...

by (Login j_stroke)

good, bad or indifferent.

I think.

"So many lakes, so little time"

Posted on May 24, 2012, 8:55 PM

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It was nice to meet you both!

by (Login LynnO)

I enjoyed meeting you both, face to face!

XL Portage/Whining tees arriving soon!

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 25, 2012, 2:53 AM

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Nice report Bill

by Doug (Login BWCAJumpin)

and great to hear that D had an opportunity to experience the area! Now she can better relate to the Middle Tn Platys. Speaking of.....

Posted on May 25, 2012, 8:27 AM

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And one of the highlights of our trip...

by (Login wildernessmama)

...was meeting you two. You know where our place is...the welcome mat is always out! 23.5 more days!

"Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in, where nature may heal and cheer and give strength to body and soul." --John Muir

Posted on May 25, 2012, 3:40 PM

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Back from Ely and Gunflint... My (non canoe) trip report

by Bill/TN (Login Bill-TN)

I'd agree...

by Steve (Login boonie69)

that the North Shore is a beautiful drive. There's enough to see and do there to keep a person busy for days.

Posted on May 24, 2012, 3:03 PM

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BWCA forcast: Rain, Rain, Rain

by bordertrail (Login bordertrail)

Or as Ho Ho would say tons of rain. three to four inches predicted by Monday. Flood warnings in Duluth and other areas. If you are going to be canoeing bring a raincoat. While driving in Virginia yesterday I gave directions to a fellow looking for hyway 169. He had a red solo canoe and was headed for Mudro lake. Heard a story on the radio of a Canadian man being attacked by a bear while he was in an outhouse near his cabin, does anyone have more information on this?

Posted on May 24, 2012, 8:22 AM

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Did he Knock first?!! LOL <EOM>

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Posted on May 24, 2012, 10:12 AM

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Link to Bear Attack

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It happened near Sioux Lookout, ONT.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/he-was-enjoying-view-bear-came-out-of-blue-153493375.html

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Manypeeplia upsidownia

Posted on May 24, 2012, 10:41 AM

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A report of very un-typical behavior by a bear.......

by Charles Eckroth (Login ToughOldBird)

Worth reading by all, but no fun for the man involved. Don't know what would have happened if the man with the rifle had not been nearby.

Posted on May 24, 2012, 1:23 PM

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He would have been the guest of honor.....

by (Login DRBOBDERRIG)

for his own funeral.

It isn't like he came upon the bear with cubs while taking a walk through the woods....

Guess a guy should keep pepper spray at ALL TIMES...even when on the can......

"Those who stop where reason and instinct command never reach the best and highest places of all" Bill Gilbert

Posted on May 24, 2012, 3:44 PM

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Being a cheap skate....

by (Login DRBOBDERRIG)

what is a good price for Bear Spray???. Would like to get some as a gift for our son who works for Idaho Fish and Game. Saw some at Piragus in Ely a couple years ago and it was over $50 I think...........

"Those who stop where reason and instinct command never reach the best and highest places of all" Bill Gilbert

Posted on May 25, 2012, 7:26 AM

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try Campmore(EOM)

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Posted on May 25, 2012, 7:56 AM

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On Sale at REI Right Now!

by Pilgrim (Login rstokley)

Anniversary Sale; ends Memorial Day eve.
Ron

Posted on May 26, 2012, 9:45 AM

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OT.....but we are lacking in good conversation

by (Login DRBOBDERRIG)

Actually I might get banned from the board for this............

Historians have recently discovered that Annie Oakley, famed sharp-shooter of the Old West, had a sister. The sister, Carrie, gained some renown in her day as a singer in various saloons throughout the West, but it was not until after her death that she was very widely known.
Today, countless bars are dedicated to Carrie Oakley.
________________________________________

A jumper cable walks into a bar. The bartender says,
"I'll Serve you, but don't start anything."
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Two antennas met on a roof, fell in love and got married.
The ceremony wasn't much, but the reception was excellent.
________________________________________

A group of chess enthusiasts checked into a hotel and
were standing in the lobby discussing their recent tournament
victories. After about an hour, the manager came out of the office and asked
them to disperse. "But why?" they asked, as they moved off.
"Because", he said, "I can't stand chess-nuts boasting in an open foyer."
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Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly, so they lit a
fire in the craft. Unsurprisingly it sank, proving once
again that you can't have your kayak and heat it too.
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Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused Novocain
during a root canal? His goal: transcend dental medication.
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A vulture boards an airplane, carrying two dead raccoons.
The stewardess looks at him and says, "I'm sorry, sir, only one
carrion allowed per passenger."
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A woman has twins and gives them up for adoption. One of
them goes to a family in Egypt and is named "Ahmal." The other
goes to a family in Spain; they name him "Juan." Years later, Juan
sends a picture of himself to his birth mother. Upon receiving the picture,
she tells her husband that she wishes she also had a picture of Ahmal. Her husband
responds, "They're twins! If you've seen Juan, you've seen Ahmal."
________________________________________

These friars were behind on their belfry payments, so
they opened up a small florist shop to raise funds. Since
everyone liked to buy flowers from the men of God, a
rival florist across town thought the competition was unfair.
He asked the good fathers to close down, but
they would not. He went back and begged the friars to close.
They ignored him. So, the rival florist hired Hugh MacTaggart,
the roughest and most vicious Thug in town to "persuade"
them to close. Hugh beat up the friars and trashed Their store,
saying he'd be back if they didn't close up shop.
Terrified, they did so, thereby proving that only Hugh can
prevent florist friars.
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Mahatma Gandhi, as you know, walked barefoot most of the
time, which produced an impressive set of calluses on his
feet. He also ate very little, which made him rather frail and
with his odd diet, he suffered from bad breath. This made him ..
(Oh, man, this is so bad, it's good).....
A super calloused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis.
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There was the person who sent ten different
puns to his friends, with the hope that at least one of the
puns would make them laugh. No pun in ten did
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It seems that a Zulu Chieftain was celebrating his 50th anniversary as the Tribal Chief. All the tribe assembled for the celebration and presented him with a new throne, richly inlaid with gold for the occasion. After the presentation, there was going to be dancing. In order to make more room on the dance floor, they put his old throne, made of solid mahogany, up in the loft of his hut.
Drums throbbed, Zulus stomped and the air itself seemed to shiver with all the festivities. Suddenly, the old throne vibrated off the edge of the loft and landed dead center on the Zulu Chief, killing him instantly. Therefore, he never really learned the lesson that people who live in grass houses shouldn't stow thrones.
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A sheriff walks into a saloon, and shouts for everyone's attention.

"Has anyone seen Brown Paper Jake?", he asks.

'"What's he look like?", asks one shoddy-looking cowboy.

"Well", replies the Sheriff. "He wears a brown paper
hat, a brown paper waistcoat, a brown paper shirt, brown paper boots,
brown paper pants, and a brown paper jacket."

"So what's he wanted for?", asks the same cowboy.

"Rustlin'...", replies the Sheriff.
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There was a mad scientist, who developed a way of making bottle nosed dolphins live forever. The problem was, they had to be fed a diet of nothing but dead mynah birds.

Being a mad scientist, he couldn't exactly get them on the oped market, so he stole the birds from the local zoo.

One night, he was at the zoo making his regular "visit". As he was leaving with his bag of mynahs, he saw a lion, sleeping in the doorway he had to pass to leave.

Carefully and quietly, he stepped over the lion, reached the outside, and was immediately arrested. The police charged him with:

"Transporting mynahs across a staid lion for immortal porpoises"
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Benny was a court Jester, who wanted very much to grow a beard. Problem was, all the members of the king's court had to be clean-shaven.
But Benny begged and begged the king, and finally he gave in, but with a condition. If Benny grew a beard, he must NEVER shave it off. Benny figured, "No problem." and grew his beard.
Years passed. Benny met a beautiful girl, fell in love, and proposed. The girl said yes, but, with a condition. She would marry Benny, but only if he shaved.
What to do? Lose his love, or anger the king? Well, we all know the power of love, so Benny shaved off his beard. When the king heard of this, he was FURIOUS, so he immediately had Benny burned at the stake.
The moral of the story being, "A Benny shaved, is a Benny burned."
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A snail went into a car dealership to buy a brand-new, fire engine red Ferrari. As they close the deal, he made one additional request. He asked them to paint a big white "S" on the side of the car. The dealer asked why, and he answered, "well, my name is Sydney, and I want everyone to know this is MY car."
So, they did as he asked. Now, he speeds happily all around town, and you can hear his friends say as he zooms by,
"Wow! Look at that S-car go!"
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Larry the lobster and Sam the clam were best friends. One day, Sam died leaving Larry all alone. Eventually Larry died and went to heaven. The first person he met there was his old friend Sam.
Sam was doing very well in heaven. In fact, he even had his own nightclub. He invited Larry over for the evening, and asked him to bring his harp.
Larry had a terrific time, and sat in with the band on his harp, jamming until the wee hours of the morning.
On his way home, Larry stopped in the middle of the heavenly road, and exclaimed,
"Oh no! I left my harp in Sam Clam's disco!"
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There was once a great king, who suspected the members of his court of conspiring against him. He had one count captured and tortured so he would confess, but he refused.
Finally, he ordered the count beheaded. Just as the axe was falling, he yelled, "I'll talk, I'll talk!" Alas it was too late.
The moral, Don't hatchet your counts before they chicken.
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A great scientist had a large number of speaking engagements; so many he couldn't possibly get to them all. Being a genius, he decided to clone himself, and have the clone take half the engagements.
This worked out well for awhile, but the clone suddenly started spouting obscenities during several of his speeches. The scientist talked to him, telling him not to act this way, since he was acting as the great man's representative. The clone stopped, but not for long, and was soon using almost nothing but foul language in his speech.
Finally the scientist could take it no longer, and decided to get rid of the evil clone. He brought him up to the observation deck of the Empire State Building, and pushed him off.
When he got down to the ground floor, he was immediately arrested, and charged with;
Making an obscene clone fall.

"Those who stop where reason and instinct command never reach the best and highest places of all" Bill Gilbert

Posted on May 24, 2012, 7:10 AM

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GROAN!!!! (eom)

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Posted on May 24, 2012, 7:56 AM

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Funny! Thanks Dr Bob! (e o m)

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....enjoy every sandwich.

Posted on May 24, 2012, 8:06 AM

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And...We are still lacking in good conversation....

by Glydr (Login Glydr)

Good humor we have, good conversation, not so much. As I sit here eating an ice cream sandwich. One day of work, then it's paddle, paddle, paddle.
Have a great weekend everyone. Don't forget to thank a vet. Please remember those that paid the ultimate price for our freedom.

I'd rather be paddling...

Posted on May 24, 2012, 11:20 PM

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weekend plans........

by (Login DRBOBDERRIG)

leaving to stay at a family camp site at a scout camp near waupaca....while everyone else crowds in the state parks we can often find places where very few are around.

There are a few small lakes on the Waupaca Chain of Lakes that the big boats can't get into...Marl Lake, Pope Lake etc...so we will visit there
Canoe is on the Suburban and most of the camping stuff is in the beast.
From NE Wisconsin have a safe Memorial Day weekend

bob

"Those who stop where reason and instinct command never reach the best and highest places of all" Bill Gilbert

Posted on May 25, 2012, 7:13 AM

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Yes! Many thanks to Dr Bob, and to Rockyshoreline,...

by howard sprague (Login HowardSprague)

Just thanking a vet, like Glydr suggested....

....enjoy every sandwich.

Posted on May 25, 2012, 7:47 AM

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portage yoke lost on Lake One to Two portage

by (Login LynnO)

A customer accidentally left a wooden yoke for our solo Prism Kevlar canoe, on the south end of the Lake One to Lake Two portage.

When he realized that he had left it there, he went back but it was gone. Also left by it was his only pair of shoes.

If anyone hears about it or has found it, please let us know. He paid for the missing yoke but if it is returned, he'll get a refund.

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 22, 2012, 3:49 AM

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I saw a guy

by (Login CCBBSpeckled)

I saw a guy with a portage yoke carrying a pair of shoes, one clamped to each side of the yoke. He was near Quadga. Think this might be your guy?

Seriously I get the yoke disappearing, but the shoes?

"The movement of a canoe is like a reed in the wind. Silence is part of it, and the sounds of lapping water, bird songs, and wind in the trees. It is part of the medium through which it floats, the sky, the water, the shores. A man is part of his canoe and therefore part of all it knows."
- Sigurd Olson

Posted on May 22, 2012, 12:59 PM

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VNO logo on yoke?

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hopefully....

"Those who stop where reason and instinct command never reach the best and highest places of all" Bill Gilbert

Posted on May 22, 2012, 2:43 PM

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Nope, but in hindsight...

by (Login LynnO)

would have been helpful.

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 22, 2012, 2:44 PM

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along with.........

by (Login DRBOBDERRIG)

"reward offered to the finder"
or
"you are in the possession of stolen property"

"Those who stop where reason and instinct command never reach the best and highest places of all" Bill Gilbert

Posted on May 22, 2012, 3:29 PM

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Seems like somebody was just cleaning up trash left behind

by Dan Lindberg (Login DanLindberg)

don't be so hard on them, you should be thanking them.

We've had long discussions about picking up or leaving stuff forgotten at portages and IIRC, the consensus was pick it up.

Now the guy who left the stuff there, that's who you should get down on.

Dan

Posted on May 23, 2012, 1:59 AM

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never pick other peoples stuff up

by tick (Login tick54)

as when they come back looking for it, it won't be there as appeared to have happened here. If the group consensus was to pick stuff up, it only goes to show that group consensus is usually wrong.

Group consensus is only used to spread the blame of poor decisions.

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Posted on May 23, 2012, 5:31 AM

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right or wrong..........

by (Login DRBOBDERRIG)

One of my first trips we picked up a plastic paddle someone left laying in the bushes (probably their spare). If I did it over again I would have moved it out of the bushes where it would have been more visible in case the owner returned....
Last year we found a very nice jamboree campaign scout hat. Fortunatly it had a name, troop, and council name inside of it so I was able to track down the owner through the power of the internet.
I try to encourage scouts etc that I take to always put their stuff in one pile and never leave stuff like fishing poles and spare paddles leaning in bushes...just too easy to miss.

"Those who stop where reason and instinct command never reach the best and highest places of all" Bill Gilbert

Posted on May 23, 2012, 6:27 AM

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you're right Dan

by (Login bigcatdaddy)

Seems like every tRip I'm picking up a pack full of gear,food,tents, heck, even canoes being left at portages. I just keep picking 'em up and hauling them out.

Posted on May 23, 2012, 7:17 AM

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Too rigid application of this advice.....

by Charles Eckroth (Login ToughOldBird)

may have been the reason for a partner and I returning with the second portage load to find that one of our paddles was missing from the stack of our gear. About 20 feet off shore was a group departing which I hailed to ask if perhaps they had an "extra" paddle. After a long pause, they discovered they did have one of our paddles. It appeared to me at the time that they were v-e-r-y slow in bringing it back, but they did return it to us on shore.

Posted on May 23, 2012, 10:21 AM

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If trash I would clean it up. If it is something else...

by MNGreene (Login MNGreen)

I would say generally leave it. How many stories have we read of people forgetting something and having to paddle back a lake or two to retrieve it?

You could make a case if the owner's contact info were on the item to take it and return it, but even then you have to be careful. We stopped at a Q campsite for lunch one time and found a girl's passport. While we were having lunch she came back for it. Can you imagine if we had taken the passport with the intention of returning it? She could have had quite an issue at the airport or border.

Posted on May 23, 2012, 12:14 PM

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WHOOOAA! Now, hold on one minute there......!!.........

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What's your definition of "trash"?
I can't tell you how many times I've triple portaged - leaving my cigarette butts and twist ties behind, with the intention of getting them on the third trip - only to find out somebody had taken off with them!

....enjoy every sandwich.

Posted on May 23, 2012, 12:32 PM

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Good point though - there's a difference between "lost" and "I know where I left it&q

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Posted on May 23, 2012, 12:34 PM

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I leave it

by (Login CCBBSpeckled)

Trash I'll pick up, but other items I leave. I've found fishing poles, jackets, tackle boxes and even a life jacket. I figure they'll notice on the next portage and are coming back.

"The movement of a canoe is like a reed in the wind. Silence is part of it, and the sounds of lapping water, bird songs, and wind in the trees. It is part of the medium through which it floats, the sky, the water, the shores. A man is part of his canoe and therefore part of all it knows."
- Sigurd Olson

Posted on May 23, 2012, 1:54 PM

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What do you do to keep things from walking away while double-portaging?

by Woodweller (Login Woodweller)

Last year a friend had one of his packs grabbed up by another group by mistake. It took him all day to track them down, but finally got it back. I mark mine with a flag of surveyor's tape on a strap. After his experience I wonder if a line and carabiner would be in order on some portages (his incident was on the notorious Lake 1-2 portage).

Posted on May 23, 2012, 3:13 PM

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Lake 1-2 portage

by rlewer (Login rlewer)

It is a wonder that anything stays with the same people at that portage. I think we were in the area when that happened last year.

About three years ago we were at that portage and there was a man without a canoe. Never did figure out how that happened.

Maybe we need a port of entry system with someone handing out numbers and luggage tags and a "take a number" for landing.

Fortunately, it is clear sailing after the portages. Also, you get to visit with a lot of people while they are waiting their turn on the trail.

Posted on May 23, 2012, 3:58 PM

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Re: Lake 1-2 portage

by (Login hoho43)

Last summer we assigned one member of our group just to keep an eye on our stuff at these portages. On the way out there were multiple groups, and one of the larger ones had zero clue about what did - and did not - belong to its members. Crazy.

I also agree with the "hands off" rule. Don't touch other people's stuff, period. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Ho Ho
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Posted on May 23, 2012, 4:19 PM

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Lake One EP

by (Login DRBOBDERRIG)

before I learned............
One time our troop was unloading our stuff getting ready to put in....we were the only ones there
A row of vans pulled up and a herd of screaming kids etc fell out with adults trying to figure it out (easily two groups).
Stuff was flung everywhere... I was trying to get stuff spread out into 4 canoes....with some newbies of course.
I don't think we lost anything.
but after that time everything is put together in one spot, paddles, pfd and packs have names on them....
and we get there as early as we can before the big groups show up.

Flagging tape.......I have used that on our bags on train trips...a good idea as well

"Those who stop where reason and instinct command never reach the best and highest places of all" Bill Gilbert

Posted on May 23, 2012, 5:53 PM

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Single portage eom

by Dan Lindberg (Login DanLindberg)

Posted on May 23, 2012, 8:15 PM

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Had the same thing happen

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Our first trip. Someone picked up a bag that was ours. Luckily he was still in hollering distance and we got it back quickly. After that experience I used strips of bright neon pink cloth on all our bags. Not nearly as much confusion! We also are very careful to stack all our equipment to the side of the trail and all tightly put together. It isn't fool proof though. I had to chase down a guy who picked up one of our fishing rods one time. Thought it belonged to someone in his crew (even though it was in our gear pile). Then again, it was a nice St Croix rod ...

Pam

Posted on May 24, 2012, 11:39 AM

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Interesting the different views on cleaning up or not cleaning up forgotten items.

by (Login DanLindberg)

My view is to clean it up
as I don't believe folks would back track to retrieve forgotten items.

Now loading/unloading at busy portages and items "walking away" is a whole different problem.
When we can, we single trip it, but if we can't, anything left is set to the side in 1 pile, and we don't have ANY loose items, ie, all small things are either in a pack or the canoe, no exceptions. (so the only thing left would be a pack)

Dan

Posted on May 23, 2012, 8:26 PM

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Oh, and the last thing to do when leaving a portage or camp site is a "walk though" to

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check for forgotten items.

Posted on May 23, 2012, 8:27 PM

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Designated Driver

by GraniteCliffs (Login GraniteCliffs)

On one of my trips each year, with five of us, we have designated one guy to be responsible to do the last check at every portage and every campsite. We have a good system as to who carries what but it is nice to know he is always the last one to leave and is good about checking for stuff that could be left behind.
Even better the same guy has assigned himself the past ten years to doing dishes every night.

Posted on May 23, 2012, 9:13 PM

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"Police the Area, Boys"

by DaveOh (Login DaveOh)

My father was a former Marine. In the 60s we would go tent camping. And after everything was packed in the top carrier on the Buick before we would roll out. He would command my brother and I, "Police the Area! Boys," That meant walking the site and looking for anything left on the ground, hanging in a tree or under a bush. Became a habit, hell I do it in hotel rooms. one last walk through. Do it campsites, had more than one paddleing partner waiting in the canoe ready to shove off ask me what I was doing. "policing the the area."

Dave

"If you do not read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you read the newspapers you are misinformed"
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Posted on May 24, 2012, 10:45 AM

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get any rain up there yesterday...????..

by (Login DRBOBDERRIG)

The green bay radar looked like you had some coming.
bob

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Posted on May 21, 2012, 4:40 PM

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Yes, we drove from Grand marais to St. Cloud.....

by Charles Eckroth (Login ToughOldBird)

beginning about 9am and had steady rain from Duluth to Hinckley. When we reached St. Cloud the skies had partially cleared.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 8:53 PM

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Tons of rain Saturday night and Sunday [eom]

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Ho Ho

Posted on May 21, 2012, 10:11 PM

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I measured about an inch

by bordertrail (Login bordertrail)

In my neighbors raingage. More rain today and tonight.

Posted on May 22, 2012, 8:18 AM

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Chicago area - anyone doing the Fox River race on June 3?

by (Login HowardSprague)

http://foxvalleyparkdistrict.org/?q=node/554

Thinking about it, but I've never done a canoe race.

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Posted on May 21, 2012, 12:02 PM

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Was going to safety boat it.....

by Glydr (Login Glydr)

But, I'll be spending all day Saturday at Yorkville as a safety boat for Moving Water II. I can pretty much guarantee I won't feel much like sitting in a canoe on the Fox River on Sunday. Have you been down there yet? If you are looking for cheap entertainment, a drive out there for an afternoon of boat watching is always fun. Bring a picnic lunch and plenty of water etc. There are places to buy stuff if you forget. If you are up for a challenge, bring your boat, pfd and a helmet. Plan to get wet!

I'd rather be paddling...

Posted on May 21, 2012, 9:48 PM

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Way Off-Topic - earthquakes ??

by howard sprague (Login HowardSprague)

I've never been in an earthquake, but how far away would damage be done and how far away would a 6.0 be felt?

My dad, from what I can tell, was vacationing about 50 miles from the epicenter of that Italy quake yesterday. Haven't heard from him yet. I'm sure he's probably fine, just wondering about the impact.

....enjoy every sandwich.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 10:38 AM

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Here's a link

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This link to the BBC story has some useful map links:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7986352.stm

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Manypeeplia upsidownia

Posted on May 21, 2012, 12:22 PM

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Re: Way Off-Topic - earthquakes ??

by Halfstep (Login Halfstep)

It all depends on what the ground is like underneath you. I was only a few miles from the epicenter of the 7.1 Loma Prieta on 10-17-89. Our house had minimal damage, but we were on bedrock. The Mission district in San Fran, some 80 miles away, had extensive damage, but was built on top of sand fill. It felt like waves rolling through the earth.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 2:06 PM

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I'm sure he felt it.

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My wife and I were living about that distance from the epicenter of the Nisqually earthquake near Seattle in 2001. I think that was a 6.8, and we felt it plenty. In addition to the composition of the earth's surface, the depth of the quake also contributes to its intensity (the shallower the more intense, typically). The Seattle quake was a deeper one, so damage was fairly minimal and no one was hurt, fortunately.

The other major concern in an earthquake is the stability of the structures/building you may be occupying at the time. The safety of the people affected by this particular quake in Italy will probably have more to do with what building they were in at the time. A 6.0 quake is big, but it's not huge. At fifty miles, I'm sure people are generally safe, unless the building they happened to be in was extremely fragile.

Vivid memories that stay with you a lifetime are few and far between, but I know I'll never forget looking down the hallway on the lower level of our house during the Seattle earthquake and watching/feeling the whole house roll like it was a boat on the high sea. Humbling stuff.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 3:56 PM

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Heard from your dad yet?

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Just hoping you've managed to reach him and trust he's okay.

Posted on May 22, 2012, 6:38 PM

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Yeah, my sister did,..

by howard sprague (Login HowardSprague)

so he's OK and back home (in Germany). Thanks! I have not gotten any details yet as to what his experience was or what he witnessed.

He celebrated his 80th birthday (holy crap! no way) with a week at Lake Garda, which looks like a pretty awesome place.

....enjoy every sandwich.

Posted on May 23, 2012, 8:13 AM

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My neighbor is selling his cedar strip canoe.

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If anyone is interested.

My next door neighbor is selling his cedar strip canoe. If it was a solo (and I had the money), I'd have already grabbed it myself.

I've had a good look at it, and I think it looks great. Features include:

- Chestnut Prospector Design
- Tandem, 16' Long
- Bead and Cove Construction
- West System Epoxy
- Hand-Caned Seats (original cane seats also included separately)
- Inside and Outside Stems
- Brass Stem Bands
- Weight is Approximately 58 lbs
- Registration Current Through 2012

$1,200 Or Best Offer

The canoe is located in Babbitt, MN, just 15 miles south of Ely

Click Here for Full Description and Contact Info

www.tompinkerton.com/media/misc/wc2012/"large/WCanoe_05.jpg" target="_blank">

Posted on May 20, 2012, 11:58 AM

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very pretty..

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did he build it as well?

"So many lakes, so little time"

Posted on May 20, 2012, 9:38 PM

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Yes!

by (Login UncleMoose)

Yes. He did indeed build it himself.

Shoulder problems have unfortunately made it difficult for him to lift the canoe, so he's looking for a good home for it. He'd prefer someone who will really use it (and in his words, not make a bookcase out of it). I figured the CCBB was a good place to go to find folks more interested in paddling than interior decoration.

Posted on May 20, 2012, 10:23 PM

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Very nice canoe!

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It's probably a good thing I don't have any decent inside storage. I'd probably have too many wooden boats (canoes and drift boats). This one would be a nice one to own and use.

...Randy

Posted on May 20, 2012, 11:21 PM

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Pictures from May 17th fire near Ely

by (Login LynnO)

https://plus.google.com/photos/105180240019472434953/albums/5744031341203314145?authkey=CNvX3Pr0-q3w6QE

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 18, 2012, 7:45 PM

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Highway One - do not travel that way to Ely yet.

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Highway 1 is closed for travel into Ely. Partly because of construction south of the airport (about 14 miles south of Ely) and partly because of the fire just a half mile south of Ely that started yesterday. It is under control but they still have to do a lot of work with the burned trees and hot spots.

So, if you come into town from the south, get to Hwy 21 around Babbitt and take 21 into Ely to the main street of Sheridan (also it is called 169).

They probably have signs out already but they didn't when I came in to work today so I had to drive all the way back towards the airport, down 120/Blueberry, to 21 and then in to work.

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 18, 2012, 6:21 PM

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Hwy 1 on the Ely end is open

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But the detour up on the Isabella end will be in place until sometime in August. TG

Posted on May 21, 2012, 2:15 PM

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Ruthanne is right, Hwy 1 from 120 is open now

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it is just south of 120 (near the airport) where it is closed. Actually local traffic can go on for a couple miles but no further until the road repairs are done.

Just came in to town from home & was amazed to see how the fire jumped back and forth over the highway. Scary to see how close it came to a number of houses.

If you have driven down that way and remember where Ely Auto is, there was a bit of char just south of Ely Auto!

No wonder WELY was off! The fire came right up to that tower!

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 21, 2012, 2:26 PM

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Hope everyone is ok up there..

by Glydr (Login Glydr)

Stay out of harms way will ya?

I'd rather be paddling...

Posted on May 21, 2012, 9:51 PM

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From what I heard & saw,

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we got very, very lucky!

The charred remains that close to town still make me shiver.

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 21, 2012, 9:54 PM

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Our family of four is spending a few days at Bulefin bay resort....

by Charles Eckroth (Login ToughOldBird)

Today we visited "the sights" in Grand Marais. We were planningto go out on the Gunflint Trail this afternoon. While enjoying a break at the Java Moose one of the others there mentioned that tomorrow there will be a Gunflint Trail-wide garage sale. So, tomorrow it is!

A note on travel routes. We came up from St. Cloud MN23 and I35. Both roads had several patches of road contruction with two lane and some single traffic. It appears that those conditions will continue for a long while. CCBBers planning to use those routes should consider alternate route.

Posted on May 18, 2012, 4:23 PM

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Satellite Phone Rental

by Mr Walleye (Login MrWalleye)

Does anyone know if any of the outfitters in the Crane Lake area rent Satellite phones? In the past we've always entered through Ely and rented at VNO, but this year we are going through Crane Lake. Any ideas?

Posted on May 18, 2012, 2:45 PM

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If you can't find one closer, then

by (Login LynnO)

give me a call. Maybe we can do something via Priority mail?

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 18, 2012, 3:52 PM

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Not local but...

by (Login canoekev)

Tryhttp://www.outfittersatellite.com/. They will ship to you, and are very reliable and fairly inexpensive. I've used them often.

Posted on May 19, 2012, 8:04 AM

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LIS North Wednesday

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A group of six will be leaving home early Monday arriving in Ely Monday night. Picking up canoe registrations on Tuesday and on the water (LIS North) Wednesday.

Posted on May 18, 2012, 12:35 PM

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Heads Up

by (Login UncleMoose)

Just in case you're going in the direction of Shell or Oyster, the trail planks near the huge dam on the portage from Lower Pauness to Shell are in bad shape and you might have to wade/float the canoe a short way. Then there is a similar submerged trail section (10 rods or so) along the portage between Hustler and Oyster which also has downfall blocking parts. You'll most likely have to float most of that and maneuver around obstacles.

That aside, have a great trip!

Posted on May 20, 2012, 11:51 AM

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Ely evacuation called off

by tick (Login tick54)

It looks like the fire fighters prevailed over the fire managers and just put the fire out.
http://www.northlandsnewscenter.com/enews/breaking/20-Acre-Ely-Forest-Fire-151928585.html
it might be interesting to listen to WELY on the internet today for more details
http://www.wely.com/

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Posted on May 18, 2012, 6:23 AM

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Are camp fires allowed in the BWCAW?

by DJ (Login DJJRW7)

Shut up and Paddle!

DJ

Posted on May 17, 2012, 9:20 PM

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so far...

by (Login j_stroke)

as I understand it now, there is no fire ban, so yes campfires are ok. I also hear there is a lot of rain in the forecast so keep your fingers crossed.

"So many lakes, so little time"

Posted on May 17, 2012, 9:23 PM

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Partial fire ban just put on BWCAW!

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Fires can only be used between the hours of 7 pm and midnight.

Very windy & hot up here right now and the storm that was supposed to show up last night never made it.

Be prepared to have the fire ban be an all day thing if we don't get some rain. We are getting the stoves & fuel ready for our rentals.

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 18, 2012, 3:21 PM

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Fire Near Ely

by mikebaueer (Login mikebauer)

http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/231826/

Posted on May 17, 2012, 3:32 PM

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Nice goin', Cossack! (eom)

by howard sprague (Login HowardSprague)

j/k

....enjoy every sandwich.

Posted on May 17, 2012, 4:34 PM

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Ha Ha Ha !!!! I was kinda thinking the same thing....scarry

by satchmoa (Login satchmoa)

My wife wanted to give him a hard time when she heard about it, about roasting hotdogs over the fire... but thought better of it because of how serious the situation...

I would rather be upside down in a canoe than right side up at my desk!

Posted on May 18, 2012, 6:51 AM

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Therein lies one of the differences between me and

by howard sprague (Login HowardSprague)

your wife....she thinks better of it, while I callously seek the cheap joke!

....enjoy every sandwich.

Posted on May 18, 2012, 10:13 AM

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Sure glad you stated that was just one difference

by satchmoa (Login satchmoa)

I would rather be upside down in a canoe than right side up at my desk!

Posted on May 19, 2012, 6:38 AM

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My thought was Wilderness Mama in a hurry to get home >>>

by Old Scout (Login OldScout48)

I bet Wilderness Papa wondered what happened when van jumped into the air.

Old Scout

Posted on May 17, 2012, 4:47 PM

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It did start suspiciously close to WM&P's new home! [eom]

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Ho Ho

Posted on May 17, 2012, 6:25 PM

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On the other hand, Ho Ho has been known to get careless w cigarettes. nt

by howard sprague (Login HowardSprague)

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....enjoy every sandwich.

Posted on May 17, 2012, 8:18 PM

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awwwwww - what a good dog!!

by Cerenity (Login Cerenity)

Thank you so much for sharing. What a good girl!! I was wondering how she was doing and how her first canoe trip would go. Absolutely fabulous. thanks for sharing the photos.

Posted on May 17, 2012, 1:23 PM

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oops - this was supposed to be under Ho Ho's last post.

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sorry.

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Piwi Goes Canoe Camping

by (Login hoho43)

David and I took our four-and-a-half-month old puppy Piwi (short for Kahshahpiwi) on her first overnight canoe trip last night. This trip was primarily a test drive to see how Piwi did at a campsite, and especially sleeping in a tent. So we left the cabin around 3:00 pm and paddled a little more than a mile to one of the USFS primitive campsites that is outside the BWCA.

Piwi had fun exploring the campsite while we set up the tent. Then we paddled over to a nearby portage for mile-and-a-half round trip hike. Piwi on the portage trail -

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Exploring the water at the other end (she still is reluctant to go all the way in, even though she has webbed toes) -

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Good dog -

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Pretty dog -

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We returned to the campsite and explored around it, played chase with Piwi for a bit, and had our canine and human dinners. This is the view from the campsite -

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After dinner we went for a short paddle, maybe two miles round trip. Piwi especially liked going down the marshy river, where there were lots of smells for her very active nose. We floated for a while in an area where an American Bittern was making his thunder-pumping call from a hiding place in the marsh.

Ho Ho and Piwi on the evening paddle -

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Back at camp, Piwi headed straight for the tent and bounced on its outside walls for a moment (a little more training needed there). She wanted something inside - her bed! We pulled it out by the picnic table (a nice outside-the-BWCA amenity) so Piwi could recline in style during the cocktail hour. Before we go on a real wilderness trip with Piwi, we need to get a real doggy camping bed.

Piwi, Ho Ho, and David -

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Once we got in the tent, it took Piwi fiver or ten minutes to settle down. She was pretty excited because the humans were getting into bed down on her level, something that doesn't happen at home. But after exploring the tent, she curled up on her own bed, where she slept the entire night. Success!

This morning we got up about 7:00, enjoyed some time around our campsite, then paddle back to the cabin. We were home before 10:00 - and now Piwi is sacked out, totally exhausted from her big adventure.

Ho Ho
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Great way to try it out! How did Piwi do,.....

by (Login HowardSprague)

with the Makers Mark?

....enjoy every sandwich.

Posted on May 17, 2012, 12:55 PM

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She really needed it after all the coffee! [eom]

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Ho Ho

Posted on May 17, 2012, 1:16 PM

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Heather & Marshall just showed up

by (Login LynnO)

and I hope that either John or I get to the potluck on Saturday!

Heather said the trip up went fairly well, her mom is at the Ely nursing home & really likes it there.

So, I'll have permanent new neighbors soon! "-)

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

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Yee haw! [eom]

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Ho Ho

Posted on May 17, 2012, 11:25 AM

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Dan Cooke

by (Login canoebuildermark)

This is a short interview with Dan Cooke of Cooke Custom Sewing. Dan is an avid wilderness canoe enthusiast and outdoor gear producer. Cooke Custom Sewing makes top of the line packs, tarps, canoe covers, and many other pieces of gear. By looking at the quality and functionality of their gear, it's obviously designed and manufactured by someone who actually uses it. We'll be using portions of the interview in our upcoming film about canoe camping.
http://youtu.be/plBXZVAct0s

Mark Morrall
www.morrallriverfilms.com

Posted on May 16, 2012, 6:17 PM

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Thanks Mark, enjoyed that!

by howard sprague (Login HowardSprague)

Dan knows his stuff, we like him here!

Now to watch the Lindblade one I see you have up. Nice guy, I took a sea kayaking class with him once.

....enjoy every sandwich.

Posted on May 17, 2012, 7:39 AM

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Interesting Interview

by (Login rstokley)

Looking foreward to more of your interview. It's been my privlege to talk/meet with Dan on several occasions. What a wealth of knowledge! I'd put him right up there with Cliff Jacobson and others.
Ron

Posted on May 26, 2012, 10:14 AM

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S.P.O.T. Rentals?

by (Login sternpaddler)

We are heading into the Q on Monday (McAree). Zup's rents sat phones, but not SPOT devices.

REI does not rent them, either.

Any other rental sources?

Thanks

Bob Beutel

Posted on May 16, 2012, 2:04 PM

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Voyageur North Outfitters

by Steve K (Login KvideraS)

VNO lists them in their Partial Rental Outfitting. Lynn posted a few years ago about a customer losing one and someone else returning it.

Posted on May 16, 2012, 3:21 PM

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SPOT

by (Login 17Chap)

I rented one from VNO about three years ago for a solo trip. Worked great. My wife tracked my journey out to civilization.

Jess

Posted on May 18, 2012, 12:45 PM

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Crescent lake question

by Fred Garvin, MP (Login fredgarvin2)

1. Does anyone know of a map that hows the canoe campsites on Crescent Lake? My Fisher shows none, while the Mac shows one--I know there are more.
2. Any info on the primitive car campsites on Silver Island Lake?

Thanking y'all again...

Posted on May 16, 2012, 11:56 AM

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I have no map, but there are certainly more than one campsite....

by Charles Eckroth (Login ToughOldBird)

Casprrr and I camped there a night before beginning a Homer to Brule loop. The site was very good. We heard some motor boats but not after dark. There is a solar powered well with good tasting water.

Posted on May 16, 2012, 12:21 PM

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Crescent Lake

by leafwalker (Login leafwalker)

As far as I know there is only one dispersed site at the far end opposite the boat launch. I was there a few years years ago. Other then that, there are 5 walk-in sites at the campground. Also, there are supposed to be 2 sites on Rice Lake which is easily (short) portaged to from Crescent (at the far end again) and through a couple of ponds (there is a rough road that leads to Rice). A book on the SNF says there are 2 dispersed sites on Crescent, but the book by Beymer (SNF) is copyrighted 1989.

Posted on May 16, 2012, 2:59 PM

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marking canoe route on a map

by olympus35 (Login olympus35)

I am having trouble marking a route on a map. Is there an easy way to do this? I'm starting with a digital map of Quetico Park and need to put a route across the park on the map. Any suggestions appreciated.

Posted on May 14, 2012, 4:15 PM

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you might email HoHo on this board

by (Login DRBOBDERRIG)

he sent me a text on how he did his trip report.....

"Those who stop where reason and instinct command never reach the best and highest places of all" Bill Gilbert

Posted on May 14, 2012, 6:26 PM

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actually if you email me.....

by (Login DRBOBDERRIG)

I can send you the email he send to me...
bob

"Those who stop where reason and instinct command never reach the best and highest places of all" Bill Gilbert

Posted on May 14, 2012, 6:27 PM

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If it's for a trip report or something like that . . .

by (Login hoho43)

Here's what I sent Dr. Bob -

It's a multistep process -

First, get maps for the area from the web. I use the public domain maps that are available on azalea's website for Quetico and the BWCA. I've downloaded them and stored them on my computer so I have them if azalea stops maintaing the website. The links are:
http://w3.cs.jmu.edu/arch/hobbies/camp/maps/quet-topo/All.html
http://w3.cs.jmu.edu/arch/hobbies/camp/maps/bwca/
You may need to rummage around on those pages to find the right maps.

Second, I save a copy of the map(s) with the day's route (keeping the originals for use again in the future) and crop the copy/copies around the section(s) I need for the map I'm going to use in the report.

Third, if I had to use two or more source topos to make my map, I splice them together using photo merging software. I use free shareware for Macs called DoubleTake, which you can find by searching the web or apple.com. Not sure that works for a pc, but there are many programs available, and you may already have photo software that will do a merge. (Obviously, this step is not necessary if the entire area you want for a map was on a single source topo to begin with.)

Fourth, I add the markings to my map using Photoshop Elements. I have version 6.0 because it came free with my camera. I believe the current version is 8.0. It's a somewhat stripped-down version of the full Photoshop program. I use the "paintbrush" tool to draw paddling and portage routes (changing colors as needed), the "text" tool for labels, and the "line" tool (with arrow ends - this is an option on the tool) to point from the text label to the spot on the map. This step takes some experimentation. One thing to look out for is that the map files are still very large at this stage - maybe a couple thousand pixels across - and you will be shrinking them in the next stage. So you need to choose paintbrush, text, and line sizes that will look right when you shrink the map next. (You could shrink first, but it's so easy in the next stage that I don't.)

Fifth, choose "Save for Web" from the File menu in Photoshop Elements. (If there isn't a command by that exact name in the current version, there should be something that does the same thing.) You can choose the quality level for saving (I usually pick medium or high) and the dimensions of the final map picture (I currently using dimensions that are 1000 pixels horizontally across at the maximum, but I try to keep the maps the same scale across days, so sometimes I make them smaller if the map is smaller that day). If the format is not already selected as jpg, pick that too. It gives you a preview of the web version before saving and tells you how many kb the file will be, so you can decide if it's right before you save. Once you save, you have the map ready to use as you would any jpg photo.

As I said on the board, I'm not sure that's the easiest method, but it's what I've settled on. Good luck!

Bill

Ho Ho
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Posted on May 14, 2012, 8:23 PM

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thanks

by olympus35 (Login olympus35)

I have Photoshop so will give your suggestions a try.

Posted on May 15, 2012, 9:37 AM

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His trip reports with the maps looked pretty slick.

by (Login DRBOBDERRIG)

If I ever get the time (and the patience) I will try it out.
bob

"Those who stop where reason and instinct command never reach the best and highest places of all" Bill Gilbert

Posted on May 15, 2012, 4:58 PM

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The "Final Portage" for Sister Terence.....

by Charles Eckroth (Login ToughOldBird)

In 1986 Sister Terence Nehl O.S.B., Jeff Latzka, my wife Evelyn and myself made a 4 night canoe trip through the loop: Clearwater - Mountain - Moose - North and South Fowl - and back to Clearwater through Pine Lake. Sister was a "good trooper" through a day of wind and rain along the border. She brightened the end of that day in camp on John Lake by blowing soap bubbles!

Sister had taught in high-schools in St. Paul and Stearns county and also
worked in the Stearns County Jail. Is that sort of work a good preparation for paddling the BWCA or not ?

A recent St. Cloud Times announced Sister's death at age at age 82. R.I.P.

Posted on May 14, 2012, 9:02 AM

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Sorry to hear about the loss of a friend. Glad there were good memories. (eom)

by howard sprague (Login HowardSprague)

.

....enjoy every sandwich.

Posted on May 14, 2012, 9:23 AM

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New BWCA/Quetico fishing regs??

by (Login Cdn2)

OK so it's been a couple of years since I've
been to the canoe country. We plan to stop
for a day or two and daytrip into the BW then
haul up to Kegagi near LOTW/Sioux Narrows (friends
cabin) for a few more days before looping over to
da bridge and the UP....

What, Where, & how is lead banned, barbs on hooks etc

It's been a while. A bum computer at home, and coaching
HS baseball are the reason............

Fish on fish off

Le Cdn

Posted on May 13, 2012, 7:37 PM

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Crow

by bigcatdaddy (Login bigcatdaddy)

Use what you want on Crow. Trout, Musky or Bass?
Jealous, I missed my spring trip to Kekagi this yr for ice-off trout.

Posted on May 13, 2012, 11:55 PM

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What good is a ten foot canoe?

by (Login bordertrail)

Guess I will try and win the Kayak on paddling.net. Although the folding kayak looks interesting. Although it does not matter in fifteen years I still have not one, just a fun way to start the work day.

Posted on May 13, 2012, 8:04 AM

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FUN

by MoleBS (Login oldman_dahlen)

it would be a breeze to trip thru Hog Creek with the 70 plus turns in something that short!

Posted on May 13, 2012, 7:44 PM

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Well it is only 22 pounds (EOM)

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Posted on May 13, 2012, 8:00 PM

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Moose to Lake One May 21 - a little bet

by (Login Kodaska)

My son and I are entering at Moose Lake next Monday, 5/21. We'll go through Vera, into Knife and around to Kekekabic, then down through Fraser, Thomas and Insula, finally exiting at Lake One (Kawishiwi Lodge). We're hoping for no bugs, rain only at night, fair breezes, and dry portages.

Is anyone game for a little bet on which of those conditions we'll experience?

Koda
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Posted on May 12, 2012, 7:32 PM

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I'm sure...

by Steve (Login boonie69)

you'll experience all of them - at least for a moment

. I hope you have a good trip with your son and will look forward to your report.

Posted on May 12, 2012, 8:39 PM

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Done that trip a few times

by bordertrail (Login bordertrail)

ONce going through vera, once going up sucker and Birch into knife, and couple of times through Ima. I think the portages going through Vera are alot harder than through Sucker and Birch into knife. Should be nice wather this week, but I am already getting bugs on the windshield driving on 169 around Virginia. Enjoy your trip. Will still be cool at night.

Posted on May 13, 2012, 7:18 AM

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Clarification, through Ima, left from Snowbank

by (Login bordertrail)

Then to Lake One. One of my favorite trips. Have done this with both the Scout troop and family. One of my former Scoutmasters retired in Ely and would shuttle our vehicle while we were canoeing.

Posted on May 13, 2012, 8:00 AM

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Nice loop

by (Login Kodaska)

I've done that loop twice, once in each direction. It's a very nice loop.

Koda
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Posted on May 13, 2012, 10:03 AM

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Portages

by (Login Kodaska)

I count four portages going through Vera, two easy and then those two tough ones.

I count six portages going through Birch to Knife. From your comment I gather those six are worth it to avoid the two in and out of Vera.

Thoughts?

Koda
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Posted on May 13, 2012, 10:05 AM

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They are flat

by (Login bordertrail)

If the water is high enough they are even shorter. Although it can be confusing. Usually skip the long portage and take two shorter ones.

Posted on May 13, 2012, 8:03 PM

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Test EOM

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Koda

Posted on May 12, 2012, 7:29 PM

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Got a new Kevlar CanYak!

by (Login LynnO)

Hadn't really looked much at one before, but upside down they look very similiar to our solo Prism.

I think I'm going to try to take it out between now and Memorial Day weekend for a day spin.

(just so I have more info when I'm renting it of course, not for the pleasure of paddling). And if you believe that, I've got a bridge to sell you.......

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 12, 2012, 4:21 PM

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finger glitch

by (Login LynnO)

similar, not similiar. The spelling freak in me just had to "fix" that finger glitch error.

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 12, 2012, 4:23 PM

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CanYak or CanBeQuiet

by (Login Kodaska)

Lynn, did you mean Canak? Yes, that's like a Prism, since the wetted surface design was taken directly from the Prism, according to Wenonah.

Koda
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Posted on May 12, 2012, 7:34 PM

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That is what I get for copying John's writing!

by (Login LynnO)

You are right Koda, it is a Canak!

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 12, 2012, 7:42 PM

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Good News! How About A Report soon.

by Pilgrim (Login rstokley)

I have one on order from Canoe Colorado (the only Wenonah dealer for states around); should arrive by end of May.
I'll expect to hear lots of on-the-water reports before I even get mine wet! Single blade please.
Ron

Posted on May 12, 2012, 10:48 PM

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Going in through Cache Bay Thursday..

by Beave (Login Beav58)

Anyone know what the water levels are like?

Beave

Posted on May 12, 2012, 2:16 PM

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They should be ok

by (Login bordertrail)

Have had some rain recently.

Posted on May 13, 2012, 7:22 AM

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Wenonah Prism for sale on St. Cloud Craigs List....

by Wunita (Login Wunita)

Nice looking white Prism listed for $1400 if anyone is interested. Looks to be in good shape. Rich

Posted on May 11, 2012, 8:28 PM

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Moose River Father/Daughter trip.

by (Login woodswalker)

So after catching heck from too many people about doing a too aggressive of a trip out of Sawbill... we have changed our Father/Daughter trip & are now going in Moose River North the 2nd week of August.

Our plan is:

Day 1 put in & travel north to stay the night on Oyster.
* Considering going in the Portage River, anyone paddled it?

Day 2 head north again through Rocky, Green, & either stay on Ge-br-on-e-quet, Pocket or Finger.
* Any suggestions of good campsites, I know the stone furniture site on Geb & the island one on finger that he stayed at looked great.

Day 3 head south through Hustler & stay on Emerald
* Is the Hustler River between Pocket & Hustler paddlable? (if not I will have to change route somehow)

Day 4 through Oyster & Oyster River & into Ramshead.
* Hows this section of river? Campsites?

Day 5 easy day back out to EP

My daughter will be 19 a week after we get back, she has done several canoe & backpacking trips on family trips. This will be our 1st trip where its just the two of us. I think the travel days I'm planning look pretty easy & will allow us to take our time leaving in the mornings & still stop early enough in the day to relax & explore the area & also the option of a layover if we had to.

I would be interested in any waterfalls, pictographs, artifacts, vistas, jumping rocks, good campsites... etc along the route.

All help will be appreciated, I have traveled the Moose River to or through Agnes several times & know about the "Top of the World" Vista & we plan on doing that.

Troy

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"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better"
Albert Einstein

Posted on May 11, 2012, 5:31 PM

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Portage River

by (Login hoho43)

I haven't paddled the Portage River, but just before the big thaw this year, we skied in on it for a couple miles from the Echo Trail. Even skiing, you can tell there are many areas of "rapids" (meaning - rock obstructed unnavigable water) close together, and we did not see any obvious portages. I think the river gets its name from the need to portage constantly, but the Forest Service has stopped maintaining any portages on the assumption that everyone will use Moose. I intend to go back to explore on a day trip paddling, but my sense is that this is not a good route for an overnight entry unless you have two experienced wilderness travelers who are looking for a really intense time. If it were me I would use the Moose River on the trip you are planning.

Have a great trip!

Ho Ho
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Posted on May 11, 2012, 11:22 PM

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Thanks Bill

by Woods Walker (Login woodswalker)

I heard the same info about the Portage River being appropriately named. I have ruled it out of the equation, it would be cool to explore on a day trip though.

Troy

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"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better"
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Posted on May 12, 2012, 7:30 AM

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Hustler River between Pocket and Hustler...

by (Login paddledoc)

I would not refer to that water as paddleable unless using the term loosely. We have paddled north from Hustler Lake and there is water but it turns into something less clear.
There was a report on this board from some guys who bushwhacked their way through. We wanted to do it a few years back, but talked ourselves out of it as some guys were getting a little long in the tooth.
If you and your daughter are tough folks, fit and experienced, it could be fun and adventurous. As those who walk in the woods know, just make sure you are ready. Best of luck.

paddledoc
"Walk too fast you leave your feet behind."

Posted on May 12, 2012, 7:15 PM

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Picture just north from Hustler Lake...

by (Login paddledoc)

A short bit north of Hustler Lake not long after we crossed over the Sioux Hustler Trail. As can be seen, there is some water. And in the background you can see a possible opening between the trees. It close in on us pretty rapidly. BUT, people have gotten through.

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paddledoc
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Posted on May 12, 2012, 7:19 PM

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Alligator....not my idea of a good time....

by (Login DRBOBDERRIG)

http://www.kayakanglermag.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1380%3Anews-alligator-attacks-florida-kayak-angler&catid=73%3Abuzz-bait&Itemid=142

then again my son was dangling a sore toe in the water on Fire Lake.when this big rock approached.....that turned out to be a snapping turtle. He moved fast........

"Those who stop where reason and instinct command never reach the best and highest places of all" Bill Gilbert

Posted on May 11, 2012, 11:08 AM

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Gunflint showers

by Anonymous (Login OldGrumman)

Heading up to Pine Lake via East Bearskin and I'm looking for a place to get a shower when we come out, before driving back home. Does anyone know of a place close on the Gunflint Trail or Grand Marais? We usually go in near the end of the Gunflint and use an outfitter there, but haven't found any place closer to Grand Marais for our trip this year. Thanks for any suggestions.

Posted on May 10, 2012, 10:37 PM

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Grand Marais

by bobcat (Login bobcat4)

Municipal Campground at Grand Marais, just south of the harbor, also has the town swimming pool. Pay a couple bucks for pool entrance and use their showers in the poolhouse.

"There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats" Kenneth Grahame

Posted on May 11, 2012, 2:03 AM

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Second the muni pool in Grand Marais

by Burnin' Daylight (Login spray99)

They also have a great hot tub that feels nice after a BW trip.

Posted on May 11, 2012, 6:59 AM

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I third it

by Bannock (Login Bannock)

http://www.grandmaraisrecreationarea.com/pool.htm

Shower, Pool, Hot Tub, AND Sauna! $5

Pack a take-out bag with clean clothes, towel, and shaving kit (if you wish). Spend an hour there and you'll be as clean as on your wedding day, and as relaxed as at your bachelor's party.

"All I Really Need To Know I Learned In Kindergarten" -- Robert Fulghum

Posted on May 12, 2012, 6:45 PM

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Clearwater Outfiters

by ILcdr (Login ILcdr)

CO is close to E. Bearskin.

Posted on May 11, 2012, 7:39 PM

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Anyone know the US Customs reporting requirements

by Beave (Login Beav58)

when returning from Quetico via the Gunflint trail. (CacheBay)?

Thanks

Bill

Posted on May 9, 2012, 7:52 PM

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Well, I hear

by (Login LynnO)

that you have to drive all the way to Ely, say hi to me and then stop down the road at the Customs office!

Sorry, actually have no idea on that side.

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 10, 2012, 2:04 AM

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You are talking "Customs" & not "Immigration". Right?

by smokey (Login smokeydabar)

If you were talking about immigration, I'd tell you that there's an office in the Coast Guard station in Grand Marais at the bottom of the Gunflint Trail you could visit - if it is open when you show up. Or, you could simply call the phone number that is posted on a sign that you will see when you come down the Gunflint Trail and leave a message. Mind you, cell phones won't operate until you're south of the Gunflint Pines closer to Grand Marais. Most people I know up here that come off of Saganaga Lake (Cache Bay)would consider the phone call an "over zealous" effort and go home and unpack.

Now if you're talking Customs, well... can't help ya much there, but here's a website that you can look up office locations. http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/toolbox/contacts/ports/mn

Also, doesn't the Queen have a ranger station somewhere in cache bay? Wonder if they can do anything for you.

Posted on May 10, 2012, 7:50 AM

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U.S Customs - anecdote

by Ed/TN (Login Ed_TN)

Admittedly this was way before 9/11 but at one point my N'tl Guard unit did a mission in Bogota, Colombia. On the return trip we stopped at the AFB in Panama to refuel and supposedly clear customs since at that point we were officially on US soil. The customs official decided it was late in the the day and he didn't want to fool with the kind of inspection that would have normally been required -- a complete unloading of all of our gear (equipment for a 50-piece concert band, plus personal luggage) -- so did not clear us and told us to clear with the officer in Nashville when we arrived there. Of course when we arrived home at 0200, there was no customs officer to be found. I guess my entire band is still a bunch of fugitives.

If dogs don't go to heaven, then when I die I want to go where they are.
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Posted on May 10, 2012, 6:13 PM

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The idea of troops having to pass thru customs .......

by Cossack (Login Cossack46)

Is assenine!
On the other hand when I left Vietnam in 1968 my seabag was inspected in Danang, again on Okinawa, and again at Travis AFB, California.
We suspected they were looking primarily for drugs.
Guess it was a good thing I didn't try to bring back the nice sawed-off .30 cal carbine someone had given me

Our remnants of wilderness will yield bigger values to the nation's character and health than they will to its pocketbook, and to destroy them will be to admit that the latter are the only values that interest us.
Aldo Leopold

Posted on May 10, 2012, 6:29 PM

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You did not not know about

by bordertrail (Login bordertrail)

putting a false bottom in your foot locker like some of did when coming back from nam to hide their contraban guns.

Posted on May 11, 2012, 8:21 AM

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I gave it to a friend........

by Cossack (Login Cossack46)

He stripped it down and put it into his AKAI tapedeck.
Made it home safely.
It was a beauty..... full auto selector and a couple of 30 round bannana clips too.

Our remnants of wilderness will yield bigger values to the nation's character and health than they will to its pocketbook, and to destroy them will be to admit that the latter are the only values that interest us.
Aldo Leopold

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Well I found references to the I-68 permit/form....

by Beave (Login Beav58)

on the internet with vague requirements for reporting immediately to the nearest CBP station.
I called Grand Portage CBP after hours and someone indicated that without a CANADIAN BORDER BOAT LANDING PERMIT, I would need to drive down the Gunflint (to Grand Portage since Grand Marais didn't open until the next day) upon return to report.

So the next day was spent trying to obtain a CANADIAN BORDER BOAT LANDING PERMIT, on short notice, which would allow reporting by phone. I was referred to a CBP web site to start the permitting process and set up an interview appointment.

After breaking the news to my trip mates that we would have to either get permits or waste a few hours driving around the arrowhead upon return, I noticed on the home page of the CBP web site that "Persons traveling who are not SVRS members must report to their nearest CBP Office for immigration processing within 24 hours of arrival." Which I confirmed with the day shift at CBP so checking in at Grand Marais the next morning after return is acceptable.
So there was miscommunication between the original CBP officer and me that first night.
At least I got to spend several hours trying to make sense of all of the CBP small vessel reporting procedures on the web.
Beave

Posted on May 12, 2012, 12:00 PM

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Border Patrol vehicle seen on Gunflint Trail

by sternpaddler (Login sternpaddler)

In September I was heading to the Chick-a-Wauk (sp?) museum near the end of the Gunflint Trail when passed by a Border Patrol vehicle.

I have no way of knowing whether they were just on patrol or responding to a call for inspection at the take out point, or were hot on the trail of undocumented aliens or contraband.

In any case, we can rest assured that our borders are secured.

Bob B

Posted on May 12, 2012, 2:18 PM

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Trouthbreath

by (Login LynnO)

just rolled into town.

Haven't talked to him yet, I was busy in the back, but I heard his voice.

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 9, 2012, 7:13 PM

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Whats your favorite two day destination?

by (Login woodswalker)

So if you had two days to reach any lake in the BW, where would you go.... favorite lake.

Troy

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"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better"
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Posted on May 9, 2012, 6:38 PM

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Two days total?

by 42Fish (Login 42Fish)

or two days to reach a lake?

If it was a two day total trip it would be Hook Lake or Shell Lake. Both are easy in-and-outs and are great lakes.

Posted on May 9, 2012, 11:47 PM

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Two days in...stay a day & two days out.

by Woods Walker (Login woodswalker)

Troy

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"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better"
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Posted on May 10, 2012, 3:50 PM

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Mallberg or Polly Lake..........

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stay overnite at the ep campground and motor in from there.

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Posted on May 11, 2012, 11:02 AM

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Pagami Fire news article........

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http://www.elyecho.com/main.asp?SectionID=17&subsectionID=34&articleID=12002

I'll be good and bite my tongue...........

but it ain't easy.

"Those who stop where reason and instinct command never reach the best and highest places of all" Bill Gilbert

Posted on May 9, 2012, 3:08 PM

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I like the reader comments after the article ;) eom

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Posted on May 10, 2012, 8:01 AM

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Cliff Jacobson Interview

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I thought some of you might find this interesting.
This is just a small portion of an interview we did with paddling legend Cliff Jacobson. We sat down with him looking for a few sound bites for a film we're working on about canoe camping. What we got was much, much more. I'll be uploading more bits of our interview in the near future. Subscribe to our Youtube channel or "like" us on Facebook to get all our updates.
http://youtu.be/jcewN68_mAQ

Posted on May 9, 2012, 4:56 AM

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Day Trip or Single Night Trip Suggestions

by Pilgrim (Login rstokley)

I might be in the Ely area on the afternoon of July 6th through the morning of July 8th. I will have my solo canoe and camping gear with me and will be itching to get out on the water! Any suggestions?
This small block of time was just dropped on me and I want to take advantage of it. I'll still be back in early September for an eight-day trip with a group and maybe a six-day solo later in the month.
Ron

Posted on May 8, 2012, 3:02 PM

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couple of ideas..

by (Login j_stroke)

Day trip on S Hegeman to the pictos, hike the Angleworm portage and points thereabouts.

You also might want to consider putting in on Fenske and paddle to the Sletten lakes and beyond. Not in BW, but in Superior NF and some nice campsites are around.

Finally, I've thought about putting in on Lake One and daytrip the fire damage area as well. MIght even could make a camp on one of the open sites on Hudson, tho I would imagine they'll be at a premium.

"So many lakes, so little time"

Posted on May 8, 2012, 4:31 PM

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I agree with jstroke and . . .

by (Login hoho43)

I'd also add to the list entering at Slim Lake (EP 6) for either a day trip or overnight.

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Posted on May 8, 2012, 8:30 PM

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I think he Slim Lake entry point is one of the most beautiful..........

by Cossack (Login Cossack46)

But campsites are limited although I believe Lynn (VNO) said that the USFS plans to open one more site on Slim this year.
We stayed at the site closest to the portage to Rice lake last year. It was just fine for the 2 of us, but the one to the south of that is more suitable for larger groups.
my favorite of the 4 lakes (Slim, Rice, Hook & Kanoe) is the site on Hook.
If not overnighting, paddling the 4 lakes would make for a nice day trip.

Our remnants of wilderness will yield bigger values to the nation's character and health than they will to its pocketbook, and to destroy them will be to admit that the latter are the only values that interest us.
Aldo Leopold

Posted on May 9, 2012, 10:18 AM

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Agreed...

by 42Fish (Login 42Fish)

Slim Lake is great and Hook is even better. Easy paddle to Hook and there is a great campsite there.

Posted on May 10, 2012, 12:03 AM

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Ever thought of Moose River South?

by Wilderness Mama (Login wildernessmama)

Beautiful paddle along the river with a nice waterfall--perfect place for a picnic, portages aren't bad. Campsites near the island are the best.

"Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in, where nature may heal and cheer and give strength to body and soul." --John Muir

Posted on May 9, 2012, 7:03 PM

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Thanks Everyone!

by Pilgrim (Login rstokley)

I just may be able to pull this off!
Ron

Posted on May 11, 2012, 9:56 AM

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Back from trip to Lake One - Insula! (fire info)

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Well, I don't have all of the info in a report yet but..

We did see a lot of fire damage. We were also surprised at some of the areas on Hudson and the south third of Insula that did not have fire damage. We also saw more open campsites on the south end of Insula than we thought we'd find.

The 95 rod portage into Insula has lots of burned around it which is sad. However, the rapids along the portage were easy to see & the water was roaring big time.

The campsite on the island on Hudson is fine as is the campsite almost directly across from it.

I'll have some shots of my map that I marked a bit later.

Deb Hanson brought her almost one year old chocolate lab, Maggie, with us. She didn't take very long to "get" how to sit still in the canoe & was a blast to have with. Very mellow and well behaved. Somewhere I have a picture of her in the canoe, with a Frog Toggs poncho on to keep her dry & warmer, and she looks adorable. She also loved it, I know, because she didn't try to get it off, not even the hood part Deb had over her head!

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v410/VoyageurNorth/?action=view�t=HudsontoInsulaportage-1.mp4

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 7, 2012, 8:49 PM

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Maggie with her poncho

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Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 7, 2012, 9:52 PM

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Poncho is what I need for Marco. eom

by GSP (Login germanshorthair)

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"It's not denial. I'm just selective about the reality I accept."
Calvin and Hobbes

Posted on May 8, 2012, 7:55 AM

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Another video - traveling towards Hudson

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http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v410/VoyageurNorth/May%202012%20trip%20to%20Lake%20One%20and%20Insula/?action=view�t=southInsulabeforeportagetoHudson.mp4

I don't narrate well and the quality of the film isn't great but...

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 7, 2012, 10:03 PM

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first link problems

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http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v410/VoyageurNorth/May%202012%20trip%20to%20Lake%20One%20and%20Insula/?action=view&current=HudsontoInsulaportage.mp4

Here is the Hudson to Insula portage video

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 7, 2012, 10:05 PM

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Re: Back from trip to Lake One - Insula! (fire info)

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http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v410/VoyageurNorth/May%202012%20trip%20to%20Lake%20One%20and%20Insula/?action=view�t=headingbackInsulaportagetoHudson.mp4

This is coming back from Insula facing the portage towards Hudson. I thought the camera had a better view of the beginning of the portage and landing, but it is pretty dark. Dark not all from the burn, just a cheap camera with a non-professional photographer.

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 7, 2012, 10:09 PM

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Thanks for the update! . . .

by (Login hoho43)

So I assume that rain gear was not made for dogs? I'm wondering if Piwi needs some doggy rain gear for long rainy days in a canoe?

Ho Ho
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Posted on May 8, 2012, 8:30 AM

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Water levels

by Brad (Login bdavid1157)

Lynn thanks for the videos and information. Would you say water levels are high, low, or normal? I will be in to get my permit on the 22nd around 7am. What will a quart of walleye fatheads in a O2 bag run a person. Also with the new bait water and boat live well and boat plug rules. Can a person legally transport minnows from the Lake One landing to Insula?

Posted on May 8, 2012, 8:45 AM

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Right now levels look pretty good

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and Deb says Burntside levels were way up from about 2 weeks ago (she lives on that lake).

Not to commercialize, but just to let you know I am one of those "outfitter types"

Posted on May 8, 2012, 9:48 PM

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Thanks for the info.

by Brad (Login bdavid1157)

Posted on May 9, 2012, 11:22 AM

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Father / Daughter Trip

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Thinking of a loop out of Sawbill.

Well my daughter wants to do a father/daughter trip in August. This will be the 1st trip when its just us, she has been on several family BWCA trips & hiking trips. We will have 5 days & am thinking we may be able to single portage, since she is not a fisherman & we will be using hammocks. I'm pretty excited that my 18 year old daughter (19 later in Aug.) wants to spend time with her old man

Anyway, what I'm looking at is:

* Enter Sawbill & spend 1st night on Gordon or Long Island.
(This shouldn't be a problem, made Frost in an easy day solo doubling before)

* Day 2 head up through Rib, Snipe, Tusc., Crooked & spend night on Little Sag.
(This is all new territory for me)
Biggest question is which way to go from Snipe?
The 100 rod into Copper & then the 69 & 255 rod to Tuscarora or the 180 rod into missing link & the 428 rod into Tuscarora???

* Day 3 start going south through Makwa, Malberg & stop for night on Polly (back into areas I've been before)
Campsite suggestions?

* Day 4 go east on the Phoebe River & spend the night on Grace.
(New territory again, suggested sites or things to see)

* Day 5 short easy day back out to Sawbill.

I'm thinking this is possible for us if we can get to single portaging, if we end up needing to double, it may be too long for the days we have... thoughts?

Troy

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"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better"
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Posted on May 7, 2012, 7:24 PM

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What a blessing..

by (Login j_stroke)

to have such a great opportunity.

Not knowing your daughter's previous trip experience, it sounds like you're always on the move, doing a trip more to your pace rather than hers.

Why not shorten the loop, base camp at least two nights, take your time and single portage. I keep overestimating my partners desires to be too much like mine, esp when it comes to my wife.

Enjoy it, cherish it.

"So many lakes, so little time"

Posted on May 8, 2012, 7:53 AM

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My thoughts exactly....

by Wunita (Login Wunita)

Troy, why not plan a layover day somewhere along the route and enjoy the moment. Make it an enjoyable and and most importantly, a memorable trip. Not one she'll think Dad tried to punish her. I know from my trips with my daughters (at age 22) they both enjoyed the layover day and a pace that had us finding a site around 2:00 PM so we could swim and relax. Engage her in the planning process and have a great time. BTW, Bass season on Bass Lake is not that far off! LOL
Rich

Posted on May 8, 2012, 11:02 AM

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Options????

by Woods Walker (Login woodswalker)

Was thinking, it might be too much, but she wants a harder trip... all the trips she has been on have been base camp trips with family. Shes a trooper when it comes to canoing & backpack trips.

I will look at some other options when I get home to my maps, we don't have a permit yet so are open to suggestions?

5 Day loop, layover day would be good, otherwise moving everyday.

BTW Rich, I may have to catch a few of those bass this year!

Troy

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Posted on May 8, 2012, 3:47 PM

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How about entering at Mudro and doing a loop that involves....

by Wunita (Login Wunita)

Horse River, Lower Basswood Falls, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday Bays of Crooked, down to Pappoose, Niki, Wagosh, Gun, Fairy, Boot, and Fourtown. Can be done in either direction. A lot of history in this loop...Table Rock, the Falls, logging on Horse, etc. Plenty of good sites to have a layover day with good distance covered, but only one long portage. Took each of my two daughters on this trip on two seperate occasions, but in opposite direction. Both enjoyed the history and area greatly. Enjoy the planning! Maybe we'll see you Memorial Day weekend??
Rich

Posted on May 8, 2012, 5:01 PM

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I wish...

by Woods Walker (Login woodswalker)

I would love to do that route again, but no permits available.

Troy

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Posted on May 9, 2012, 6:26 PM

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Re: What a blessing..

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Jessica is the one that wants to travel each day, she has been on several base camp trips & gets bored sitting around camp... she is a trooper & has always done really good on BWCA trips & Superior Hiking Trail trips.

I'm thinking of an easier loop or 2 days in + 1 layover day then 2 days out.

Troy

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"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better"
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Posted on May 9, 2012, 6:33 PM

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Sawbill Trip

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Last year my buddy and I planned a father/ daughter trip to Sawbill in August. Unfortunately my daughter couldn't make it due to lack of vacation so it was a father, father, daughter trip. Anyway, it was great... after exploring Kelso River and Kelso Lake, we spent the first night on Alton. The next day we took the 140 and 285 rod portages into Grace Lake. It was a tough day in the heat, but then we base camped on Grace for 3 nights. Lots of blueberries, beautiful scenery and plenty of day trip opportunities. On the way back we saw a group of young ladies rock jumping on Beth Lake, so my buddies daughter jumped also. Highly recommended area.
Here is a link to a YouTube slideshow I did from that trip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHrqeCT-rRw&feature=plcp

Posted on May 8, 2012, 5:56 PM

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Thanks... great video!

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All my trips with her have been family trips & we have always base camped, she really wants to travel each day... a loop would be great, but not a requirement.

A couple days in... one layover day... two days out, would work too.

Troy

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"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better"
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Posted on May 9, 2012, 6:29 PM

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Ambitious route if double portaging

by Michwall2 (Login Michwall2)

The Sawbill Canoe Outfitter website lists a route similar to the one you describe as a 6 day route (Little Sag East). I have been over your suggested route in both directions double portaging. We had seven days. I think that you could do it in 5 but it wouldn't be fun.

I have done the trek from Long Island to Tuscarora through Copper, Hubbub, and Howl Lakes. When I went through that area 5-6 years ago, the FS had abandoned the boardwalk across Howl Lake (Swamp) and had dug a canal just wide and deep enough for one canoe to pole their way through. Both ends are a muddy mess. So the 255 is broken up by that canal. It is a long day through here. You will arrive at big Tuscarora in the middle of the afternoon wind. Tuscarora can be hard to find a compsite on as it is only a short day in from the Round Lake entry. In August this could be a problem.

If you are interested in a couple days in and a couple days out from Sawbill, how about heading north through Kelso, Zenith to Mesaba: Hub, Fente, Mora, Little Sag: Layover or Day trip: Back out the same way you came in.

If she is interested in more of a challenge, there are plenty of challenging portages through here. Combination of big and small lakes. A nice loop at the Little Sag end for a day trip. The area is a less used section of the BW even in August.

Another challenging in and out from Sawbill would be the Louse River Route. Go to Wine Lake the first night and Trail Lake the second. Take a layover day at Trail. You could day trip a further section of Louse to the West. Then head back the same route the next 2 days.

Have fun!

Mike

Posted on May 10, 2012, 8:48 AM

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You could do...

by Steve (Login boonie69)

The LIS North route that Uncle Moose did in his video trip report below if a permit is available for LIS North or alternatively, Moose River North.

Posted on May 10, 2012, 7:20 PM

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The 2012 Upper Iowa Float Trip by CCBB is now history......

by Charles Eckroth (Login ToughOldBird)

I can write only for myself and I'm sure that others will add their own, different impressions. In one way, it shows the "toughness" of we BWCA campers. Friday night after dinner we were challenged by a "whopper" rain and thunder storm with frequent and loud strokes of lightning. No harm done so far as I know. This may be partly due to the fact that more than half were housed in ways not available to BWCA visitors - in wheeled shelters. Still the sturdy cooking and eating shelter was a very adequate for all community gatherings. I didn't count the attendees, but it was around two dozen, including kids. Before turning in, we enjoyed talking around the fire pit.

Soon after breakfast the paddlers set off for the Kendalville entry point about9am. Andy and Heidi paddled his green Old Town while Joe and I rented an Alumacraft 17 footer. We four were among the early starters. I don't know if this was the first time or not, but at least half of the vehicles were kayaks. I may have to learn to paddle a kayak as after a few miles my back began to make serious complaints. Still, Joe and I were often in the lead.

We saw lots of Canada geese, plus great blue herons, a little green heron, ducks and a beaver, eagles ,etc. etc. There were a few ticks taking a ride on us - I found one on my leg while showering this morning. Thankfully, it was not the small variety known to carry Lyme disease.

Saturday evening we held the usual pot-luck dinner and it consisted of realy good things! Having, probably the greatest distance to travel (to St. Cloud) Joe and I started early while the banquet was still in progress but well fed nonetheless. We had heavy rain and lightning from MonticelloI dropped off Joe and his gear (minus two items) about midnight and got to my home, Evelyn sound asleep,about 1am. Very tired but it was worth it. I slept very soundly until 7am, not even turning over once.

That's about it from my perspective. I hope others will add their own comments.
Charlie E.

P.S. The old Bluffton steel bridge has been hauled onto land and the sturdy concrete replacement will soon be opened for use. This will really save the miles in getting to Kruska's and the various starting points. I would expect it to be open before the tourist season is much farther along.

Posted on May 6, 2012, 2:52 PM

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There were several CCBBers at the event but I must be the only one still posting

by Charles Eckroth (Login ToughOldBird)

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Posted on May 10, 2012, 1:49 PM

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did Ozark Paddler make it? eom

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"Those who stop where reason and instinct command never reach the best and highest places of all" Bill Gilbert

Posted on May 10, 2012, 7:33 PM

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Never saw this before - Eureka Singlis ST Sleeping Pad

by howard sprague (Login HowardSprague)

http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___45399

Nice thickness, pretty light,integrated pump, pack size 3"x10",..and it's on sale for only 40 bucks. Looks good but i've never seen it before. Anyone have any experience with this?

....enjoy every sandwich.

Posted on May 4, 2012, 9:12 PM

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I guess insulation is the downside,...R1 vs regular Thermarest R3.4 eom

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eom

....enjoy every sandwich.

Posted on May 4, 2012, 9:17 PM

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NeoAir

by azalea (Login azalea-va)

I am not familiar with the Eureka but I bought a similar style mattress. I was attracted to the lighter weight compared to the traditional self-inflating mattresses. But I found the long large tubes less comfortable then the more flat surface of the traditional self-inflating mattresses. I recently purchased a Thermorest NeoAir which combines the flatter style of a self-inflating mattress with the improved weight/size of a blow up mattress. But it is also a bit more pricey. Worth it for me if it improves sleep comfort.

Posted on May 5, 2012, 10:44 AM

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Stephen Krasemann

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Was there an article about the photographer/painter Stephen Krasemann in the latest issue of the Boundary Waters Journal?

Posted on May 4, 2012, 8:35 AM

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Yes...

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It's on p91 of the most recent issue (Spring 2012). Written by Jon Nelson, it's called "Stephen J. Krasemann - From Pixels to Print."

Really nice work.

"So many lakes, so little time"

Posted on May 4, 2012, 10:03 AM

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thanks (nt)

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Posted on May 4, 2012, 10:29 AM

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The stadium style seating on Gebe...

by solodavo (Login solodavo)

...doesn't seem very conducive to good conversation. Someone ought to rearrange those chairs in at least a semicircle.

Posted on May 3, 2012, 6:28 PM

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Oops. This should be under Uncle Moose's thread.

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Posted on May 3, 2012, 6:30 PM

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Very true...

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...but when going solo it can actually be an advantage, because you can pretend you're King.

Posted on May 3, 2012, 7:17 PM

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Yes, but...

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Just remember you are "pretending". The queen (and ultimate ruler) is awaiting you when you come out!

"So many lakes, so little time"

Posted on May 4, 2012, 10:04 AM

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Exactly!

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Solo trips are the one time I get to rule, so it's good to take advantage!

Besides, if the Queen were along on this trip, she'd probably make me rearrange the stone furniture.

Posted on May 4, 2012, 10:42 AM

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You know darned well.......

by Cossack (Login Cossack46)

That if she'd been along for the trip........... she'd have you rearranging that furniture to her liking!

Our remnants of wilderness will yield bigger values to the nation's character and health than they will to its pocketbook, and to destroy them will be to admit that the latter are the only values that interest us.
Aldo Leopold

Posted on May 4, 2012, 3:53 PM

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Be sure ...

by Ed/TN (Login Ed_TN)

... to tell the queen Happy Birthday.

If dogs don't go to heaven, then when I die I want to go where they are.
-- Will Rogers

See my Canoe Camping web page athttp://mywebpages.comcast.net/ed.stevens

Posted on May 4, 2012, 8:46 PM

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This reminds me of...

by (Login TwistTieCollector)

Mitch Hedberg, "I'm not addicted to blackjack, I'm addicted to sitting in a semi-circle."

Yeah, flying off on tangents is my specialty.

Posted on May 4, 2012, 6:24 AM

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Thanks for showing me most of my August trip.

by tbonecanoes (Login tbonecanoes)

I hope the water levels are not that high but not too shallow either. I'm requesting some level in between.

tbonecanoes

Posted on May 3, 2012, 5:41 PM

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Was supposed to be on post below

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tbonecanoes

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