I know so many people on this board would like to see what we all look like and what they would be like in sparring matches. Everyone from Lamar and Todd, to Mike Descado, Prather, John Kogas, Omegaman, NWFish, Jiyasa, me, Zub Zub, Masamune, JKD Swordfish, jkddragon, and the list goes on and on. Well finally you all now have the privelage of watching the legendary Jiyasa of webkwoon fame spar a martial arts monster! Jiyasa's opponent, this Terror of the World Taekwondo Federation accepts no mercy when applying telegraphed head level kicks, devestating punching power, and insulting verbal abuse worthy enough to make Bob Sapp cry! Nothing can stop him!!!! Well until Jiyasa here shows the kid what happens when he dares step toe to toe with one of our own!! Jiyasa displays a tight defense, great footwork, amazing hand/eye coordination, low level kicks, lightning fast punches/traps, and a determination to win not seen in many athletes outside the elite Olympic hopefuls!! According to the Snazzy Nazzy himself, this clip was taken two years ago which would make him 23 I think. EXIT DRAGON....BEWARE!!!! And to everyone else......enjoy!
Jiyasa is wearing the black pants and white muscle shirt.
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This message has been edited by Lenmaster on Feb 16, 2004 8:13 PM This message has been edited by Lenmaster on Feb 16, 2004 8:08 PM
Get some pads, a cup, a mouthpiece, and then go at it near full blast. I want to see that. No, really! No sarcasm or nothing like that, I wanna see Naz full blast in sparring gear! And Phases, if you thought ol' Jiyasa was not up to par, did you pay attention to the kid he was sparring? Just a question. Later!
I would hope that this was just a play spar. But its not . I had to take several looks To belive what I saw. One had no training basicly at all. And well the other had some basics but No appliction on doing and protecting. I would hope he has came along much more in the past 2 years. I was taught when you look at a beginer you should see your self. We all start some where. Lets hope this is far in the past for Naz/ jiysa
I know they don't have any pads on or anything... But, look at the footwork! He doesnt know if he is left or right handed. He also needs to work on his conditioning because he was winded after the first 10 seconds. I think his sparring partner is a good match for him, cause they are both beginners.
This guy is supposedly a 5th degree black belt. And he came to me to "test my skills". This guy didn't like the sound of contact sparring with gloves so he told me to do light contact just "tagging". The entire tape is about 10 mins long since it's rather relaxed LOL. As you can see I'm cruisin with this kid.
I have sparred with him full contact before and all I can see is that he is even worse.
Cool thing about tapes is that you can just see how much you've improved.
I personally believe it was a great performance considering you'll where going light contact. For you can not show what you can really do unless you are going at least I'd say 70% or more. I think you did great at keeping him at a distance you kept on guard to block I never seen him hit you. You utilized the side kick to the knee well, And you struck well when there was an opening. I also like how you used his wrist to control his arms and the quick step in headlock takedown. Good job continue the hard work and training and I don't see any of them showing any better.
Wow, until now I actually thought naz had some credibility. I see now that he's just a keyboard warrior. Any guy (or girl) in my school with 6 mths experience would punk him off in a second. Naz you need to find yourself a good teacher and train with real fighters.
Hey, hey, hey, don't forget, Naz makes instructional tapes and hands them out over the internet for free so don't mock the master! He's taken his share of 15 yr. old villains and kindergarten killers which most of you on here will never face! So everytime you get a little upset that Naz is being a smart a** or he's trying to always tell people how to do things, just remember that guy up there on that clip is who you are talking to. There should be nothing but fear, reverance, and respect for the guy. LOL
Oh my god!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That clip rules!!!!!!!!!!!! I wanna see another one! Put another blasted clip up! PLEASE!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
And that clip is edited to make things worse, these are his best techniques.
Haha! $hit, sorry dude, I feel bad now.
Keep training hard!
Don't get lazy; use stricter form at ALL times!
Put some "emotional content" in to everything you train for. My instructor taught me to really focus on my target and use my "killer instinct". He would tell us to imagine the most ugliest, meanest and strongest opponent(s) in front of us and enemy is trying to rape & kill your mother, sister or girlfriend and YOU need to stop the attacker and be the Aggressor and control the situation. After my teacher told me this, I instantly changed the way I train. When I spar or practice any technique, you can see my "Killer Instinct" in my eyes and my techniques becomes faster and more powerful. I'm not saying to kill your sparring partners, you focus your power on your footwork and use perfect form, and you use perfect form for your punches and kicks.
I'm not trying to piss you off Nas; hopefully you will take everyone’s suggestions to heart.
Even fooling around with someone and taking it easy doesn't mean you have to completely get rid of all form and technique.
Stance: Sloppy
Guard: Constantly going down.
Kicks: Pathetic
Punches: Basically the only punch used was a jab.
Trapping: Barely
Clinching: None
Footwork: Horrible
If you were fooling around then you should have at least used slowed-down, proper techniques, in hopes to atleast teach the sad guy you were sparring some stuff. "Fooling around" is just an excuse for "I really suck."
HOT DAMNNNnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn....................
I just **** my pants. I hope i dont meet this warrior ever in my life. Id laugh till i **** again. Lol.. jiyasa you move like a girl. tell me you werent serious. Even if its two years old, you were supposed to have trained more than 6 years o soby then, eh????
You give good advice at times(from wat i read) but dont u think its time you practised what u preached. Some sparring that was man, u'd get killed. gotta move fassterrrr, bad footwork, SLOPPY punches, mediocre coodination, kick?lol.. what more can i say? i feel sorry for you. give your fingers some rest and START DOING SOME TRAINING.
Good day!!
its great to be back after a vacation.
"You should become so familiar with skills like breaking holds, throws, effective punches to vital areas and crippling moves that will come when needed as a reflex action. You should be aware of the best barroom fighting techniques. You should be able to fight two men at the same time. You should know the best way to disarm an opponent. And more.
But such skills require real practice with a sparring partner who can take, as well as give, a good punch. In order to teach these methods in the proper way, your instructor will have to take his fighting as seriously as you do. "
-some hitman from Italy.
it's a shame for some reason I can not view the legend that is Naz. Still from what everyone here has said it seems my assumptions of your true abilities were right.
Off course it might that in the Last two years he has really developed. I know that I have. The MA I was two years ago is the not even the shadow I am today (not that I am anything great now). So maybe Naz you might want to put up a current version of your skills to reinspire confidence in the legend.
Still if anyone knows why I can not see this video and knows how I can see it I would be grateful.
I have many recent videos, but why would I put them up? Even if I had a vid of me beating up bruce lee people would still find a way to criticise it "URGH YOUR HAND WAS AN INCH OFF URGH!"
Stop judging this video as my "fighting ability" because it's not even sparring. I mean for god sakes I'm standing around like I've just got out of bed, that's how relaxed I was, this supposed 5th degree black belt in tae kwon do was easier than people off the street with no experience.
This video is around 3 years old not 2. I thought it was 2, but upon further watching I noticed it had the date at the bottom of the tape.
I agree this video is laughable, firstly just how easily this kid is, and secondly because you guys are judging this as my CURRENT fighting ability, and thirdly because you are considering this FIGHTING ABILITY full stop, it's not even a sparring match, it's a game of "tag". Get over it.
If I was proud of the tape I would of submitted it myself lol.
Exit dragon, you are the last person I expected to respond, I wouldn't be surprised if Nathan (the guy I'm 'sparring' here) is YOU!
Naz: I have many recent videos, but why would I put them up?
Question: Yes, why would you put up something that reflects badly on you?
Naz: Even if I had a vid of me beating up bruce lee people would still find a way to criticise it "URGH YOUR HAND WAS AN INCH OFF URGH!"
Question: DO you think if you actually posted yourself sparring someone with skill, and you yourself showed some, you would get this reaction? Did you know that your video was also posted on other forums? I am just trying to post the consequences of the web.
Naz: Stop judging this video as my "fighting ability" because it's not even sparring. I mean for god sakes I'm standing around like I've just got out of bed, that's how relaxed I was, this supposed 5th degree black belt in tae kwon do was easier than people off the street with no experience.
Question: Do you always make excuses for your actions?
Why post something on the net anywhere that makes you look bad? I mean it is a global medium...
Naz: This video is around 3 years old not 2. I thought it was 2, but upon further watching I noticed it had the date at the bottom of the tape.
Question: So you posted this old video by mistake? on your site?
Just Curious,
I think you mentioned somewhere that you talked with Chihand on the phone in the past? Did you find his input helpful?
Jiyasa has PROGRESSED in 3 years....I am sure of that. Not to mention we are all on the same path just at different stages. You are hipocrits for critiquing and not posting your clip so you can be critiqued yourself.
'Jiyasa has PROGRESSED in 3 years....I am sure of that.'
Have you ever seen actually him to qualify that?
I bet you have never met this person have you? If so I take it all back
'Not to mention we are all on the same path...'
No we are all not on the same path, we all have different reasons... but it is nice to be idealistic.
Listen, this is not about attacking anyones 'friend' or 'skills',so put away the tissue. It is about living with the consequences of an action, before you make yourself a target (especially on the web). Hopefully rather then all this being taken as a bashing of the poor guy,
(and an emotional onslaught from his friends), there is something constructive he/we can take away from all this.
Cheers,
Droog
This message has been edited by Andrew_leBlanc on Feb 20, 2004 11:39 AM This message has been edited by Andrew_leBlanc on Feb 20, 2004 11:09 AM
Naz and I are not "friends".. We don't chat or email or even respond to each others threads. So no this isn't "sticking up for my buddy" or some mushy crap like that.
Knowing that Naz trains everyday (from reading his posts and visiting his website) I used deductive reasoning and concluded that his martial knowledge has increased. This coupled with his responce to this thread admitting that he was only playing a game of "tag" with a sh!t talking 5th degree blackbelt THREE YEARS AGO validates (to me) my feelings and assumptions that they are correct.
But my origional post was not about "sticking up for Jiyasa", its about the "verbal snipers" who hover in the background, never starting a thread...only lieing in wait for their "internet target" so they can take a shot. Never sticking out their neck, just armchairing. If you want to target me...feel free. I have nothing to hide.
'Naz and I are not "friends".. We don't chat or email or even respond to each others threads. So no this isn't "sticking up for my buddy" or some mushy crap like that.'
Then none of this should bother you correct?..
'Knowing that Naz trains everyday (from reading his posts and visiting his website) I used deductive reasoning and concluded that his martial knowledge has increased.'
Deductive Reasoning?
If one trains in poor habits for years it will not make him or her any better then before. So I don't agree with your analogy.
'But my origional post was not about "sticking up for Jiyasa", its about the "verbal snipers" who hover in the background, never starting a thread...only lieing in wait for their "internet target" so they can take a shot. Never sticking out their neck, just armchairing. If you want to target me...feel free. I have nothing to hide.'
Wow! sounds like you have some issues,
Well rest assured my response is not meant to snipe at you
nor anyone.
You know I used to frequent this forum back in 2001 with some other martial artists from around the net, sad how much it has changed.
It is most everyones attitude that "only they are walking the true path"....just like you. Only your training methods are the true way right Leblanc?!? Everyone else is doing it wrong...you have it all figured out. I'm really getting tired of that tone, and the worst thing is you probably can't even see that, that is how your coming off.
If your so great, post clips for us to scrutinize. Subject yourself to the same critization that you give to others....didn't think so. Join the UFC, Pride or other NHB, prove that your way of MA is BETTER...didn't think so.
Since your so critical and seems to posses greatness in the MA, display some leadership, show the rest of us the "way". But I'll bet you just "cut" and "paste" from my post and make some petty little point!
Spare me the responce unless it is some video of you doing better than Jiyasa...Umkay!?!
Allow me to apologize for having upset you so. You seem to be 'assuming' alot of things that were not writen.
My post has more to do with putting something that is not what best represents ones skills on the internet... period.
Its just not a smart thing to do in any occupation be it Martial Arts instructor or Designer etc.
I saw the clip in question on another website.
You can polish a turd...but it still is a turd. You and everyone can try to defend it... but it still is what it is.
Simple solution, take it down before it cirrculates as a joke on every other JKD website. Unless you don't mind having negative input, then hey all the power to you...
I fail to see how that is not being constructive.
As far as my way is the 'right' way...where did that come from? All I said is we walk different paths, some want to be
instructors, some fitness, some hobbyist, some enlightenment,etc.
As far as videos go. Gee, I don't have any... but f you are interested I would be more then happy to share with you what I think I know about JKD or not about JKD so far in person.
Now before this question gets lost,
Jiyassa have you been experimenting with any of Chihand's
views on structure? Do you feel they helped you improve in anyway?
Cheers,
Droog
This message has been edited by Andrew_leBlanc on Feb 20, 2004 2:35 PM
Hey you guys, forget Jiyasa. We have a more SERIOUS problem. Just take a look at the main page of this site and see all those fake login names! Yep! You know who I am talking about.....everyone's favorite pain in the ass that we all thought was banned is now back and he's at it again. We have to figure out a way to deal with this $hit head! The forum was just starting to get better and people were starting to come back to his board!
My name is Ryan, I think Nas did a great job in defeating me; I have been training hard for 10 yrs, ever since I was 5 yrs old, and I am also a National Kata Champion. Anyways, Nas was my toughest opponent yet, I am now a true believer of Jeet Kune Do, Bruce Lee was really onto something! Nas is the true Ambassador of Jeet Kune Do; he showed THIS 5th Degree Black Belt what real fighting is all about. Take it from me; Nas's Jeet Kune Do is unbeatable!
Thank you Nas for showing these bums what JKD should be.
Your friend and student for life,
Ryan J. Anderson
(5th Degree Black Belt under Koreas elite fighter, Master Kwong Long Lo.)
About jiyasas clip. I was watching it again .. what i liked about jiyasa was him 'circling' around and, even though not fast and very telegraphic footwork, his movement. Its clear tat the 5th degree dikhead knew only to attack in a straight line. Jiyasa was having an edge everytime he circled around him. at the end jiyasa simply goes behind the kid, and the kid was helpless. The movement, had he done gracefully, would have been nice to watch. But unfortunately, i see him hopping around and not at all like sliding. i always take advantage with opponents whos weight shifting i can sense and adapt to, their timing is very easy to beat, and can be timed well too. Jiyasas guard, his stance was not at all good. a fast and good jkder can hit him before he blinks. at times jiyasa looked relaxed and not even thinking about this kid. i sincerely hope it was so. he couldnt have been all serious.
I wanted to post some videos of mine and a friend. But coudnlt upload anything, not even a piucture. after i press the upload button it probably uploads the file, as it takes long time, but later nothing but a white screen comes. can Anyone help me out?
Dragon going to sleep
"..being invisible and not existing are two different things. Yet, the invisible can make believe it never existed..."
-a hitman
1st of all to gain a 5th degree in taekwondo takes roughly 20 years. I've never met one younger than 30. So if this punk is claiming that he is and he looks like he's only 15 he's either a complete fraud or a complete idiot. I dont know who looks more like an idiot the kid for claiming that he's a 5th dan or Jiyasa for thinking he beat a 5th dan. I'd like to fight both you guys 2 on 1, then I could go around saying I beat a 5thdan and a Jeetkunedo expert. LOL
While yes, Jiyasa's clip is somewhat awful, he really does look like he was just playing around. REGARDLESS, I see some tools in there. He used a stop kick more than once to intercept that other kid's kicks. Jiyasa also uses misdirection a good bit- like faking high then striking low. His attempts at trapping were utter dog sh!t, (not that I'm a big fan of trapping), but I like that he circles off periodically. There were also one or two kicks to the midsection that were very well timed, (despite the slow tempo of the fight).
I have a feeling Jiyasa is about the same skill level of some of the people dogging him, but that won't keep people from talking trash.
Oh, and NWFISH, I truly, truly hate you for posting that clip.
Didn't you post something like "I'm going to make positive contributions and help this forum become great (again)!"
Well stop crapping on people's threads with the Kung Fu Hamster. That is ****ing stupid! It is not making this forum better. Start your own thread and post that dumb **** there.
I find myself in the uncomfortable position of agreeing with Mike Descasdo. Yes the clip is pathetic, but a big part of the reason it is pathetic is that the guy in the green shorts really sucks. (That's one think I think EVERYBODY can agree on). 5th degree blackbelt my butt! I have friends who are actually TKD stylists and they are all light years ahead of this clown. As Droog mentioned this clip has been posted other places. I thought it was a "student teacher" sparring session. In such a case I would argue it's important to keep a good offensive/defensive structure even if you don't need it for the sake of teaching the other guy.
That said, it's unfortunate that ego prevents us all from using the Internet to it's full potential as a training tool. Instead of saying "against a round kick I like to do X" and getting into a long drawn out keyboard debate, one could simply post a clip and then discuss it. Then if someone felt that "it really wouldn't work if opponent was doing Y" he could post another clip. It could be a great way to share information. But I fear ego would get in the way.
Oh yeah, and Mike's also right about that being sucky trapping. And he and I are on different sides of the trapping debate.
Who cares, as long as Naz is happy with his progressions. I've read some of Naz's posts and he doesnt convey that he is the best fighter in the world. Naz seems to have a lot of knowledge about JKD, for a guy his age. So, live and let live.
He would be a fairly good instructor, but he wouldnt be a world class fighter.
From being on this forum for ONE day i can already tell that Naz is a good teacher. He probably is a better teacher then he is a fighter which is a good thing.
He doesnt know if he is left or right handed. He also needs to work on his conditioning because he was winded after the first 10 seconds. I think his sparring partner is a good match for him, cause they are both beginners.
